This contraption, while under-powered, I would prefer any time over the Honda 750cc superscooter. The Brat has style, and a carburetor, both rare commodities in our day and age.
This is a "classic" bike so manual choke is absolutely perfect, if it was automatic, it would lose a bit of charm. It may be a great machine as a second bike for someone having a cruiser :) I love it
For a lot of people they don't understand how a choke works my partner would leave the choke on and then ride till the bike cuts out. Then would take so long trying to get the bike started again (with or without choke I Don't even know) then the engine would get so cold it probably did need choke again.! I just couldn't cope with it anymore.
Some really nicely styled cycle parts, I love the look of the two side covers and rear light as well as the items you spoke about, and, the exhaust note sounds wonderful. It's such a pity it's got no power. You need a bit of power sometimes to get yourself away from somebody else's mistake on the road.... Better to be a hundred yards up the road looking back at the mess than being a part of it because you couldn't get outta the way. Like you say, have the 47 horsepower there just in case if your in that category 👍
Well said. The licensing system is a joke but I don’t think the government will ever change it, despite two wheels being the way to save fuel. Anything below 47hp and 500cc should be learner level. They’re like driving a basic car. But the government is anti motorcycling. As someone from a European background, everyone rides bikes in Europe, the uk government has a special dislike of them sadly. The 250-300cc class should be thriving.
I watch the bit, and say to myself "under-powered" only to hear literally the same word from Mr Darcy, then about the paint, "British racing green", again, just a moment after. Hey, smart fellow, Mr Darcy. What number am I thinking of now? When somehow people massively find out about this channel, it will be viral, but in a good way.
I have one and think it's a great bike. Fun to ride and I have had comments on how nice it looks.Sturdy and well built. Was riding today from work in 40mph winds. Hardly flinched compared to the Kawasaki 125 I used to have years ago.😊
Another good review, your right about the noise regs that’s the difference between sva tested and euro compliant it’s definitely nice to see another British manufacturer, and just goes to show you don’t have to spend a fortune to have fun on two wheels 🙏🇬🇧🏍🇬🇧
I wouldn't buy one but i can see the appeal it may have for new riders. It certainly looks the part. You're right about that exhaust...it looks sick. 👍👍
after 32 yrs of 1000cc+ bikes i seen the light over 12 months ago, there is a lot more fun in riding smaller cc bikes..the Herald looks sweet, i will have to look into them and the UK brand Mutt also as i would sooner rock up at the local bike meet cafe on a brill looking obscure brand bike, than what the motorcycling sheep who buy the main brand bikes and who strut around like peacocks as in look at my status symbol new £20k plus bike 😂 I have 3 bikes in my garage, 2021 RE Himalayan, 2021 Suzuki SV650 and a 2022 RE Interceptor total cost of all 3 bikes bought new was 30% cheaper than 1 main brand big bike 🤣
I agree wholeheartedly with xc2v and power wise it’s a 250 single that’s what it is and nothing more but overall I do think that it is a nicely thought out machine that fills a gap in the market and going for smaller machines to explore the B roads.
Seems a good learners bike. As you say a very pleasing sound. Goes quick enough for a learner. Reminds me of my first bike a Yamaha DT250 enduro , though that was a two stroke .
Only a small power gain over a 125 so cant really see why someone would buy it,but sounds lovely & i actually like the manuel choke....great review all the the same though as usual..keep it up guys 🛵🏍
I have spoken to someone high up in herald who has assured me this was a mistake. He sent me the true specs which was 17hp. There’s only one version with the 250 and then there is also a 125cc version.
This is a 2 year old review, the new Brat 125 with water cooling gives out 14hp and the new Brat 250 has 19hp, both bikes share exactly all the same components, frame, weight, seat, style, wheels, exhaust everything, I’m really impressed with mine it gets comments all the time, the licensing rules suck in the UK, it’s ridiculously complicated and expensive. Th power output of the 125 has been cobbled to 14hp so as to comply, in Europe similar engined bikes easily achieve 16.5hp and I dare say the 250 would do 21hp, this could be done here in the UK with a remap but then of course would not be legal and void your insurance, incidentally my previous bike was a Hanway NK but the Brat literally knocks it into a cocked hat, I always felt like I was gonna drop the NK into corners but within 5 miles of riding the Brat I was riding like a boss! Herald got the frame and suspension geometry Bob on with the Brat it really is a nice bike !
Nice review. Funnily enough my son and I just finished rebuilding an '03 Honda VTR250 into a brat. Very similar except that the twin puts out 24KW.. 12.5KW seems quite low for that Herald. But it looks and sounds nice, great second bike for running errands and fun, I'd reckon!
@@henrietn I'd call that more than a little underpowered if a mass-produced 250 from 20 years ago has same weight and double the power. (And it seems it's not about emissions laws in this case). As for being bullet proof, time will tell - let's see how many are running in 2042. 😀
Great review. This bike seems comparible to the Bullit Hero 250, similar looks. The bullit is £700 more but comes in at 26bhp. I think the bullit engine has kiska origins so cf moto and ktm links and its fuel injected too. I'm not sure where the Herald engine comes from maybe suzuki or Honda origins. Hopefully you will be able to review the Herald 500 brute when it lands. Keep up the great reviews!
Thats a nice looking classic retro looking scrambler, I don’t think we get those here in the states. Torque numbers are more important on a small displacement trail/street bike like that, sounds like it has some grunt but hard to tell.
Yet another bike that I would have been interested in if only the manufacturer had put the engine in a larger frame. How expensive can it be to produce a larger frame?
Herald Brat...that's a new one on me!...not available here in the states. (Yet?)...good looking with that trellis frame & the tank reminds me of a RE HIMALAYAN. Sounds like my Suzuki DR250, about on par power wise too. Good review, thx👍
It looks good, it sounds good and it's got green lane potential. I'd love one as a second bike but can't ignore that the same money would get me a good used CRF250 which would still be worth what I paid for it in a year or two's time.
The Mastiff is my fun little second bike but now I’d like something with a bit more poke like a Mash XRide or a caballero, I think it’s bite the bullet time. You’re bang on with the review by the way, Cheers.
I'm a bit confused, I thought they all had to go to fuel injection because of euro 4 and 5 emissions law, how the hell did they get a carb with choke past the emissions rule 🤷🏻♂️
Congrats! Mod 1 is the hard bit. Just remember to do your lifesaver checks and indicate. Keep to the speed limit but not too much under. Just like you’re going for a ride really.
So come on then, would you recommend buying Chinese or would you say if someone can afford it, buy one of the big 4 japanese? Personally I love the great aray of designs from China, but spares, longevity & quick devaluing are a concern
If it only had some performance to back up the looks. Like a 11kw 125 and a 20+ kw for the 250. I think if it went in the 300 category it would be the best contender in its category just for the looks. Probably they wanted them slow so you can be looked at. Not a strong point anyway. It's more like a piece of art to put in your house.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan I know!😤 But considering that there are no reviews on them on TH-cam one would think that they would want TH-camrs as yourself could help them spread the word about their bikes. For me living in Sweden I can buy a bike from them and have it shipped here. But there’s no way for me to try it out first.
honestly the a2 licence is silly I can understand paying for a proper test after you've had your cbt but honestly it should be time related. the a1 should be scrapped and i recon after being on an a2 for two years it should automatically be upgraded to a full licence. that and 16 year olds should be allowed 125s and 17 year olds 250s as honestly 50s are just so slow id say it's dangerous, especially when a lot of the modern 4t ones can barley do 25 up a hill.
No question this is a great looking bike. But not enough a jump from the 125cc. Is this A1? Otherwise something with more power on A2 would be better. They should try & get an engine in this with around 27hp. Would sell amazing.
Yes absolutely agree, no unfortunately to be A1 you can’t have more than a 125cc. So yes I agree it needs more power for sure. Have you seen the brute 500 they do? I’m hoping to review that next. It’s A2 compliant and over 40hp so it’s got enough grunt
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Yep seen a couple videos around. Great bike but spikes up in price for sure & that will turn some people back to the more established brands for similar bikes. Looking at their website they do alot of smaller cc options (6) which are cool & give options to alot of types of buyers. For other stuff I hope they don't spread themselves too thin as it would be easier to focus on a few & keep prices down enough while keeping profits to build the brand.
Well it's a really nice lookin bike but needs to be a 500 at least and an auto choke why ??? everything else is fine shame really but I guess it will find it's niche in the market place . : D
There's definitely something very spooookey 'round that corner. Cars/bikes disappearing, reappearing. Any violated sheep, crop circles or moving trees been reported recently? ... Just be careful 'round there kid. S
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This contraption, while under-powered, I would prefer any time over the Honda 750cc superscooter. The Brat has style, and a carburetor, both rare commodities in our day and age.
Yes true that 👍🏻
This is a "classic" bike so manual choke is absolutely perfect, if it was automatic, it would lose a bit of charm. It may be a great machine as a second bike for someone having a cruiser :) I love it
Yes good point, it is cool
For a lot of people they don't understand how a choke works my partner would leave the choke on and then ride till the bike cuts out. Then would take so long trying to get the bike started again (with or without choke I Don't even know) then the engine would get so cold it probably did need choke again.! I just couldn't cope with it anymore.
Some really nicely styled cycle parts, I love the look of the two side covers and rear light as well as the items you spoke about, and, the exhaust note sounds wonderful. It's such a pity it's got no power. You need a bit of power sometimes to get yourself away from somebody else's mistake on the road.... Better to be a hundred yards up the road looking back at the mess than being a part of it because you couldn't get outta the way. Like you say, have the 47 horsepower there just in case if your in that category 👍
Very good points there!
I am not saying I like the bike,what I am saying is, is that nobody records the sound as good as you.
Keep up the good work, have fun and ride safe.
Thank you very much, appreciate that. We have managed to alter our formula to find what we think is a good sound. Glad you agree
Well said. The licensing system is a joke but I don’t think the government will ever change it, despite two wheels being the way to save fuel. Anything below 47hp and 500cc should be learner level. They’re like driving a basic car. But the government is anti motorcycling. As someone from a European background, everyone rides bikes in Europe, the uk government has a special dislike of them sadly. The 250-300cc class should be thriving.
Absolutely agree, our government will do anything they can to put people off of bikes
I accept with the majority of the commentators view on this Motorcycles and I liked your review which is very useful for buyers
Thank you 👍🏻😎
I watch the bit, and say to myself "under-powered" only to hear literally the same word from Mr Darcy, then about the paint, "British racing green", again, just a moment after.
Hey, smart fellow, Mr Darcy. What number am I thinking of now?
When somehow people massively find out about this channel, it will be viral, but in a good way.
That’s brilliant hahah, thank you. Great comment 😁
Great review. In some ways I think the choke is kind of cool is it an old school charm.
Yes I see what you mean
Real world bike and a real world review! Brilliant!!
Thank you!
I have one and think it's a great bike. Fun to ride and I have had comments on how nice it looks.Sturdy and well built. Was riding today from work in 40mph winds. Hardly flinched compared to the Kawasaki 125 I used to have years ago.😊
I really love me the look of this bike. Sure it's a little down on power but it is only 147 kg. The power to weight ratio is better than some others
Yes it’s pretty cool
Another great review, many thanks lads
Thank you!
Another good review, your right about the noise regs that’s the difference between sva tested and euro compliant it’s definitely nice to see another British manufacturer, and just goes to show you don’t have to spend a fortune to have fun on two wheels 🙏🇬🇧🏍🇬🇧
Thanks buddy, yes it’s good value!
Forget its power output i think it well smart looks brill . Really good review again keep up brill work
Yea it looks great
I wouldn't buy one but i can see the appeal it may have for new riders. It certainly looks the part. You're right about that exhaust...it looks sick. 👍👍
Yes it looks fantastic
This bike looks so cool and budget friendly too
Yes it looks fantastic, very budget friendly!
after 32 yrs of 1000cc+ bikes i seen the light over 12 months ago, there is a lot more fun in riding smaller cc bikes..the Herald looks sweet, i will have to look into them and the UK brand Mutt also as i would sooner rock up at the local bike meet cafe on a brill looking obscure brand bike, than what the motorcycling sheep who buy the main brand bikes and who strut around like peacocks as in look at my status symbol new £20k plus bike 😂
I have 3 bikes in my garage, 2021 RE Himalayan, 2021 Suzuki SV650 and a 2022 RE Interceptor total cost of all 3 bikes bought new was 30% cheaper than 1 main brand big bike 🤣
Good point, royal Enfield make some incredible bikes at incredible prices. We have a new Himalayan and continental gt reviews coming soon.
I agree wholeheartedly with xc2v and power wise it’s a 250 single that’s what it is and nothing more but overall I do think that it is a nicely thought out machine that fills a gap in the market and going for smaller machines to explore the B roads.
Thanks buddy. Yes it’s a really nice bike
Seems a good learners bike. As you say a very pleasing sound. Goes quick enough for a learner. Reminds me of my first bike a Yamaha DT250 enduro , though that was a two stroke .
Yes indeed a great bike for learners
Only a small power gain over a 125 so cant really see why someone would buy it,but sounds lovely & i actually like the manuel choke....great review all the the same though as usual..keep it up guys 🛵🏍
Thanks buddy, yes I agree the power difference is barely noticeable
I quite like carbs since you can change the jetting. You're often stuck with snatchy fuel injection on more modern machines.
Interesting point 👍🏻
That's a lovely bike, sometimes long for something like this, lovely review, there is 14.7bhp version
Yes that is the 125 version, it’s a nice little bike
@@MrDarcy-OlMan I think maybe the website is a bit wonky as it lists the 250x brat as 14.7bhp, maybe it's the A2 version?
I have spoken to someone high up in herald who has assured me this was a mistake. He sent me the true specs which was 17hp. There’s only one version with the 250 and then there is also a 125cc version.
This is a 2 year old review, the new Brat 125 with water cooling gives out 14hp and the new Brat 250 has 19hp, both bikes share exactly all the same components, frame, weight, seat, style, wheels, exhaust everything, I’m really impressed with mine it gets comments all the time, the licensing rules suck in the UK, it’s ridiculously complicated and expensive.
Th power output of the 125 has been cobbled to 14hp so as to comply, in Europe similar engined bikes easily achieve 16.5hp and I dare say the 250 would do 21hp, this could be done here in the UK with a remap but then of course would not be legal and void your insurance, incidentally my previous bike was a Hanway NK but the Brat literally knocks it into a cocked hat, I always felt like I was gonna drop the NK into corners but within 5 miles of riding the Brat I was riding like a boss! Herald got the frame and suspension geometry Bob on with the Brat it really is a nice bike !
Nice review. Funnily enough my son and I just finished rebuilding an '03 Honda VTR250 into a brat. Very similar except that the twin puts out 24KW.. 12.5KW seems quite low for that Herald. But it looks and sounds nice, great second bike for running errands and fun, I'd reckon!
Good points, yes it’d be a good little run around.
It's a Chinese 250. Thy are all the same 250's that come from the same Chinese factories. It's a good engine although a bit underpowered. Bulletproof
@@henrietn I'd call that more than a little underpowered if a mass-produced 250 from 20 years ago has same weight and double the power. (And it seems it's not about emissions laws in this case). As for being bullet proof, time will tell - let's see how many are running in 2042. 😀
@@TeeeB0ne true that :D
Great review. This bike seems comparible to the Bullit Hero 250, similar looks. The bullit is £700 more but comes in at 26bhp. I think the bullit engine has kiska origins so cf moto and ktm links and its fuel injected too. I'm not sure where the Herald engine comes from maybe suzuki or Honda origins. Hopefully you will be able to review the Herald 500 brute when it lands. Keep up the great reviews!
Thanks buddy, yes that bullit 250 does look like an interesting proposition. Hopefully I can get my hands on a brute pretty soon!
Thats a nice looking classic retro looking scrambler, I don’t think we get those here in the states. Torque numbers are more important on a small displacement trail/street bike like that, sounds like it has some grunt but hard to tell.
Yes indeed. Not much torque tbh 👍🏼
Herald needs to set up distribution in the US. I'd love to get my hands on a Maverick.
Cool looking bike, great job 👏🏻
Thanks buddy, yes it looks great
Yet another bike that I would have been interested in if only the manufacturer had put the engine in a larger frame.
How expensive can it be to produce a larger frame?
Yes I agree
Herald Brat...that's a new one on me!...not available here in the states.
(Yet?)...good looking with that trellis frame & the tank reminds me of a RE HIMALAYAN. Sounds like my Suzuki DR250, about on par power wise too.
Good review, thx👍
If only it had a little more power 🤔
As you said, a 350 or 400 might be very interesting
Yes absolutely!
I agree wholeheartedly with cyber
Awesome cheers bud 👍🏻
Thank you 👍🏻
It looks good, it sounds good and it's got green lane potential. I'd love one as a second bike but can't ignore that the same money would get me a good used CRF250 which would still be worth what I paid for it in a year or two's time.
Great review and a cool looking bike 👍🏼
Thank you
I imagine playing around with the carb settings and air filter would bring on some more power. A bike for TEC parts to work their magic on 🏍️.
Yes I would definitely try and get more power out of it
My Mutt Mastiff 250 is damn nearly impossible to move on, looks like I’m going to lose over half of my initial outlay, big mistake on my part.
That’s a shame
Yep resale should always be a factor in these. A1 bikes can be easily moved from my understanding whereas the in-between cc will struggle.
The Mastiff is my fun little second bike but now I’d like something with a bit more poke like a Mash XRide or a caballero, I think it’s bite the bullet time. You’re bang on with the review by the way, Cheers.
Nice Bike. I think it's good as a second Bike 👍
Yes defo 👍🏻
250cc is a strange category. It needs to be a 350/400 to really feel the extra shove. Sounds good, looks quite good, pricey.
Yes good point!
Will you be getting your hands on the 500 Brute? 🙂
Hopefully that will be next!
It needs to be a 350 🙏
Agreed
I'm a bit confused, I thought they all had to go to fuel injection because of euro 4 and 5 emissions law, how the hell did they get a carb with choke past the emissions rule 🤷🏻♂️
Good point, I have no idea! Perhaps because they produce a low volume of bikes there is a loophole 🤔
Good looking bike
carbs barely seem to last now e10 rots the seals out youd have to rebuild it constantly
Very good point!
Passed my mod 1 today..! 👍any tips for mod 2!?
Congrats! Mod 1 is the hard bit. Just remember to do your lifesaver checks and indicate. Keep to the speed limit but not too much under. Just like you’re going for a ride really.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan thank you so glad to get dredded mod 1 out the way!!
Yes that’s the worst!
Its the same engine used in the Gpx legend 250 single motorcycles
Interesting 🤔
So do you still see the O'L man a lot now you have moved out or do you still work together.
I visit him in wales every month or so and if we have a bike to review we do a video together. And of course we do our own videos in the mean time
Could make a fun little second bike?
Yes it could do indeed, depends what you’re looking for I suppose
So come on then, would you recommend buying Chinese or would you say if someone can afford it, buy one of the big 4 japanese?
Personally I love the great aray of designs from China, but spares, longevity & quick devaluing are a concern
It is a bit of an unknown entity
Do you have the new 250cc maverick one? If so what are your thoughts about the bike?
No not had a chance with that one
@@MrDarcy-OlMan right ok looking forward for this to see you guys to share the thought
If it only had some performance to back up the looks. Like a 11kw 125 and a 20+ kw for the 250. I think if it went in the 300 category it would be the best contender in its category just for the looks.
Probably they wanted them slow so you can be looked at. Not a strong point anyway. It's more like a piece of art to put in your house.
Yes I agree, the engine did not impress me.
Is there a chance that maybe you could try the 2022 Herald Maverick 250?
It’s a new 250cc motor from what I can see from their homepage.
We can try but they usually take six months to get back to us!
@@MrDarcy-OlMan
I know!😤
But considering that there are no reviews on them on TH-cam one would think that they would want TH-camrs as yourself could help them spread the word about their bikes.
For me living in Sweden I can buy a bike from them and have it shipped here. But there’s no way for me to try it out first.
@@patricksandeberg8184 absolutely you’re quite right! Took me over a year to organise the one we reviewed in this video!
honestly the a2 licence is silly I can understand paying for a proper test after you've had your cbt but honestly it should be time related. the a1 should be scrapped and i recon after being on an a2 for two years it should automatically be upgraded to a full licence. that and 16 year olds should be allowed 125s and 17 year olds 250s as honestly 50s are just so slow id say it's dangerous, especially when a lot of the modern 4t ones can barley do 25 up a hill.
Very good points indeed! 💯👍🏼👍🏼
It used to work that way. I think it was changed to match the EU...
@@elobiretv there are somethings the eu does that make sense but this just seems like a money grabbing scenario lol
Green? Isn't that blue? Am I color blind or something?
It kind of had a blue pearlescent flake to it I must admit
Think it is greeny blue 👍🏼
KTM 200 Duke is 27HP.
No question this is a great looking bike. But not enough a jump from the 125cc. Is this A1? Otherwise something with more power on A2 would be better.
They should try & get an engine in this with around 27hp. Would sell amazing.
I say this & they do a 400cc. Brat 400X would be the way to go.
Yes absolutely agree, no unfortunately to be A1 you can’t have more than a 125cc. So yes I agree it needs more power for sure. Have you seen the brute 500 they do? I’m hoping to review that next. It’s A2 compliant and over 40hp so it’s got enough grunt
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Yep seen a couple videos around. Great bike but spikes up in price for sure & that will turn some people back to the more established brands for similar bikes.
Looking at their website they do alot of smaller cc options (6) which are cool & give options to alot of types of buyers.
For other stuff I hope they don't spread themselves too thin as it would be easier to focus on a few & keep prices down enough while keeping profits to build the brand.
Yes that’s a good point, I think the reason the brute is so much more is because it’s their only bike that is built in Britain.
Only 17 BHP from that engine, when the 125cc is nearly 15 BHP. Doesn't make sense......should be 25-30 BHP.
Yes I agree
You get ktm duke 200 for £2k in my country, which has more power then this 14hp motorcycle.
This has 17hp, yes that’s a very good price!
Well it's a really nice lookin bike but needs to be a 500 at least and an auto choke why ??? everything else is fine shame really but I guess it will find it's niche in the market place . : D
Yes for sure!
Fun but for me a bit pointless👍
Yes fair enough!
@@MrDarcy-OlMan As you say in the vid perhaps a bit of a niche bike but sounds great👍
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There's definitely something very spooookey 'round that corner. Cars/bikes disappearing, reappearing.
Any violated sheep, crop circles or moving trees been reported recently?
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Just be careful 'round there kid.
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Maybe something spooky is going on in the abbey that is just behind camera 🤔😮
@@MrDarcy-OlMan
Ah ha!
lol
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Woefully slow, but a great looking and sounding bike. Shame it doesn't have >30bhp...
I new that is a Chinese motorcycle, we have 'em here as MB motorcycles
1st ^^
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I wouldn’t spend £3600 on one
Me neither, I would buy a royal Enfield meteor or classic for that tad bit more
The engine sounds more like a moped or scooter than a motorcycle. Lol.
Yes it doesn’t sound very beefy
@@MrDarcy-OlMan We need more beef...
The Enfield Meteor you compared it to is a butt ugly thing much prefer the look of the Brat(stupid name though)
Looks are subjective
Take your test on a 400cc so you can ride a 250cc doesn't make much sense really. I did my test on a 125cc then got a 400cc back in 1997.
Yea completely ridiculous. Sums up the government!
Missed the word people sorry