Jim Cornette on Dusty Rhodes Returning As WCW Booker And Trying To Bring Jim Back

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  • @michaelmarino7391
    @michaelmarino7391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I never get tired of hearing Corny's wrestling stories, especially his impression of Dusty! PRICELESS!👍

    • @adriancarlos9155
      @adriancarlos9155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And Ernie Ladd.... If you willllll

    • @suchiuomizu
      @suchiuomizu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adriancarlos9155 Don't talk about the Challenger, kid.

    • @Hassan87.
      @Hassan87. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love dusty and people doing his impressions

    • @demetriusjackson3624
      @demetriusjackson3624 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adriancarlos9155 pppp

  • @TLChivz
    @TLChivz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    'I didn't lie to Dusty I just omitted all the truth....' a line ONLY Jim Cornette could ever get away with!

  • @jordan_8329
    @jordan_8329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Jim's Dusty voice is the most endearing thing ever.

    • @coryshannon3815
      @coryshannon3815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It seems like a "Dusty Rhodes" impersonation is a right of passage for wrestlers. Unless you're Terry Taylor.😂

    • @-JAVY-
      @-JAVY- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The thon of a plummmbbbeerrr baby

    • @scorptarget
      @scorptarget 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      💯

    • @Kas58223
      @Kas58223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great impression of Dusty Rhodes

    • @DarksaberForce
      @DarksaberForce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Major motion pictures and sitcoms

  • @frankcabanski9409
    @frankcabanski9409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    If Dusty returned as booker today for WWE, it would improve. I know you're saying, "but Dusty is dead". Even dead, Dusty would do a better job than what's going on in WWE today.

    • @ValVenusaur
      @ValVenusaur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The ghost of Dusty Rhodes is more deserving of “Booker of the Year” than Tony Khan

    • @RealityMFiction
      @RealityMFiction 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dustys legacy lives on in AEW.

    • @gregorybaxter7594
      @gregorybaxter7594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@RealityMFiction Cody defiles it weekly.

    • @richardhinton4501
      @richardhinton4501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is not worth watching... This might be the only time You could truly have A Real competitor to WWE if You took A few of the old Guys like Corny, Al Snow and Mick Foley and start something like the NWA again.

    • @EliC09
      @EliC09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@RealityMFiction Cody shits on his father’s legacy in AEW

  • @ValVenusaur
    @ValVenusaur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Eaton: “Smokey Mountain Wrestling!”
    Corny: “Shut up!”

    • @theinudemon
      @theinudemon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'd have died if someone tried to trademark it and have to deal with a pissed off Corny

    • @jaysantos536
      @jaysantos536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Kayfabe the name!"

    • @henrygvidonas9573
      @henrygvidonas9573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Smoky, not "smokey". Named after the Smoky Mountain National Park and the Great Smoky Mountains.

    • @travisdeclan1701
      @travisdeclan1701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      a trick : watch series on InstaFlixxer. Been using them for watching lots of of movies lately.

    • @tydiego1722
      @tydiego1722 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Travis Declan definitely, I have been watching on InstaFlixxer for months myself :D

  • @WyattHolliday
    @WyattHolliday 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Aside from the Horsemen, Bobby and Stan were the guys that made me think heels were cool as a kid. Then Rude and DiBiase.

    • @johnlovesumiller865
      @johnlovesumiller865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Horsemen did it for me. But I remember going to the Norfolk scope and flair and sting was the main event in a cage. But that day midnight went against the express and it all changed for me

    • @internetexpertmd4670
      @internetexpertmd4670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same I always preferred the heels with Rude and Curt Hennig being my favorite

    • @WyattHolliday
      @WyattHolliday 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@internetexpertmd4670 Mr. Perfect was my introduction to Hennig, but I was an instant fan.

    • @internetexpertmd4670
      @internetexpertmd4670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WyattHolliday Same, I even enjoyed his wcw run, it was pretty hilarious him singing but yeah man, what a great wrestler and I'm sure his son Joe had some huge shoes to fill when that man casts a shadow. I definitely wouldn't wanna have to live up to his potential.

  • @blaze3422160
    @blaze3422160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    “You can’t pick what time a war happens!”- the Great Brian Last

  • @dwade6322
    @dwade6322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    You couldnt make a movie of Cornys life..it would have to be a Series. Theres too much Gold to be told in just a few hours.

    • @evolvedcopper2205
      @evolvedcopper2205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Each ep would need to be like 2 hours a piece to get all the dope details in like how Jim does

    • @AvatarOfGames
      @AvatarOfGames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think a young Jim series would be just as compelling as young Rock if not moreso. It wouldnt have the same mass market appeal but I bet it would be more interesting overall.

    • @smarkslowplay3512
      @smarkslowplay3512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yep would make a great intriguing series. Beginnings, Midnight Express, NWA fame, Herd drama, SMW, WWF, Russo drama, OVW, TNA, ROH etc

    • @Will-h7h
      @Will-h7h 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ed Helms could play him

    • @fernandoguajardo2750
      @fernandoguajardo2750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jon Lovitz as Paul Heyman

  • @jjbjjb273
    @jjbjjb273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    20 years since the death of wcw today. Wrestling has never been the same since

    • @SpaceGhost92
      @SpaceGhost92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How sad and true. You have to give Vince Jr his props for putting together that massive cooperation but he needs competition to thrive

    • @adriancarlos9155
      @adriancarlos9155 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No not at all

    • @Herbert_Rudolf
      @Herbert_Rudolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jim just said wwf and wcw are the companies that "ruined" wrestloing

    • @jjbjjb273
      @jjbjjb273 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Herbert_Rudolf Jim says a Lot of stuff as for WWF and WCW ruining wrestling all I know is that people on the Internet only talk about late 90s early 2000s nobody gives a shit about the 80s or the 70s

  • @VicDamone230
    @VicDamone230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    If you ever need a laugh, Jim’s Tim Horner rant is pure gold 😂

    • @JustMe-yu6uu
      @JustMe-yu6uu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      As is the Kenny King one

    • @VicDamone230
      @VicDamone230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yessir 😂

    • @sc30002001
      @sc30002001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pam lawson too

    • @Bobby2691
      @Bobby2691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Definitely! Any Tim Horner rant is EPIC!

    • @MortonT1958
      @MortonT1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      For a smaller guy with mid-card talent, “White Lightning ⚡️ “ Tim Horner certainly stayed employed in the wrestling industry for quite a long time. Corny hits the nail on the head when he says that Horner harbored delusions that he would be a champion for some promotion somewhere.

  • @internetexpertmd4670
    @internetexpertmd4670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I remember seeing Bobby Eaton in the Dangerous Alliance as a kid. Great stuff I thought.

    • @jeffmac9642
      @jeffmac9642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's about when I started watching WCW . I was a huge Dangerous Alliance fan. Seems Rude never lost , Austin always lost by DQ , then Arn , Bobby and Larry lost every week.

    • @adriancarlos9155
      @adriancarlos9155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Dangerous Alliance in my opinion underrated and 100 times better than DX, WCW was always better than WCW around that time, until Jim Heard arrived then we got the Ding Dongs and the Yeti, 🥵

    • @williammcmillan-johnstone3962
      @williammcmillan-johnstone3962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Watch wrestle war 92 stings squadron vs dangerous alliance fantastic

    • @adriancarlos9155
      @adriancarlos9155 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williammcmillan-johnstone3962 Ravishing Rick!

  • @azapro911
    @azapro911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "I didn't lie to Dusty, I just omitted all the truth." 😂

  • @razielvampx
    @razielvampx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    The last time I was this early, AEW was a sports oriented wrestling show

  • @wolflover789
    @wolflover789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Every time Jim does his dusty impression, it cracks me up, because he doesn't mean to be funny usually, but it's so spot on that it's awesome.

  • @sprthrwwychnnl73
    @sprthrwwychnnl73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    16:37
    Brian: “For the record the entire country supported that war.”
    Jim: “But not on fukkn Saturday morning at eleven o’ clock while channel 5 is supposed to be showin’ wrestlin’.”
    It’s uncommon that one man’s entire soul and psyche can be summed up in a brief exchange, but there is Jim Cornette in a nutshell right there.

  • @joeholtster1891
    @joeholtster1891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Damn Neo-Cons starting wars killing kids & ruining Cornett’s Memphis run.

  • @allenm.355
    @allenm.355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Dusty voice has me in tears every time 🤣🤣🤣😂

  • @kidray7818
    @kidray7818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I listen to Jim Cornette's podcast everyday. Luv the old stories💯💯

  • @jonnybrotten1290
    @jonnybrotten1290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shit when I worked in Memphis they cut off TV one morning for a riot at the local prison and the rib was there was at least two of the boys there doing a little bit of time.

  • @Dakatari
    @Dakatari 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Rest In Peace Dusty Rhodes

  • @Jim-Tuner
    @Jim-Tuner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bobby Eaton lasted in WCW, but he was not paid comparatively all that well.
    1996 $88,709
    1997 $76,970
    1998 $81,250
    1999 $98,114
    2000 $58,913

    • @haljordan777
      @haljordan777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also I think Cornette may have forgotten about Sting when he was saying Bobby was the longest tenured employee of WCW under Turner ownership. Bobby Eaton was on TBS longer than Sting, but as far as Turner owned WCW; Sting was also there when Turner bought the company and was still under contract when WCW went out of business (and was under contract when he took a year off from wrestling).

    • @sey4206
      @sey4206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More than what I make pushing a broom

    • @gtpliquid1290
      @gtpliquid1290 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      98 grand for a couple of tapings every two months wasn't bad.

    • @iromulus33
      @iromulus33 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Id take it.

    • @Jim-Tuner
      @Jim-Tuner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iromulus33 He was paid less than Vincent (Virgil). They brought in a guy with heavy drug problems who could barely work (Chris Adams from Dallas) and gave him a bigger contract. "NWO Sting" made more money than Bobby Eaton. He was making ok money but he was making less than alot of really bad talent that got signed to big contracts in the late 1990s.

  • @btipton6899
    @btipton6899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Travis F'n strikes again!! 😂🤣

  • @patrickdoran180
    @patrickdoran180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is he referring to that stupid thing at Beach Blast with Sting and British Bulldog?

  • @Byrdgamezn6
    @Byrdgamezn6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember when Bobby got the push.

  • @ronniejdio9411
    @ronniejdio9411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you had to travel w big van badger after he ate 24 white castle burgers youd knowntrue FEAR

  • @JB-wt7mu
    @JB-wt7mu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dam this guy has a hard on for republicans, always has something brilliant to say.

    • @charles1964
      @charles1964 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was called "The Solid South" for a reason

  • @shanebagin
    @shanebagin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I didn't support the war when my wrestling was on or my sports. Neither did my father and grandfathers.

  • @Phantasia_Workshop
    @Phantasia_Workshop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn’t get into wrestling until I was an adult, and as a kid it used to piss me off every Saturday morning when Channel 5 cut off the NBC cartoons in order to show local Memphis wrestling. I’d turn the TV off and go outside. I hated that so much, but now, as an adult fan of wrestling, I kinda wish I watched it

  • @joeltowle2737
    @joeltowle2737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bobby was a Stud! One of the greatest!

  • @emperortrevornorton3119
    @emperortrevornorton3119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would love to have seen Dusty Rhodes yell at Jim Herd (read next part in best Dusty impersonation)he says he is willing to come back only sign the checks and stay away from Cornette baby or he will smack you red he might do some announcing just don't get in his way baby

  • @j.d.6915
    @j.d.6915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember the Iraq war preempting TV the first day it happened. After that, things went back to usual. Was this continuous preempting a Southern thing?

  • @wildchild423
    @wildchild423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whenever Jim said now here's the thing you better strapped in cuz he got a good story for you. LOL

  • @michaeladderley5180
    @michaeladderley5180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Danger zone and power hour era...89-93

  • @johnlovesumiller865
    @johnlovesumiller865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Laugh at Bobby’s look or whatever. He was a hell of a wrestler

  • @TheEnzyme94
    @TheEnzyme94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol White Castle of Fear story is halarious! Never made that connection!

    • @adriancarlos9155
      @adriancarlos9155 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it wasn't for Harold and kumar I would have never heard of White Castle... for years I assumed it was a fictional burger spot!!

  • @rickpowers3677
    @rickpowers3677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Cornette is wrong about Bobby Eaton being the longest running wrestler at WCW under Ted Turner because Sting was there at the beginning and the end.

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I believe Eaton was under contract all of that time too.

    • @rickpowers3677
      @rickpowers3677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@maxxdahl6062 until 99' but Sting was there until the end in March of 2001.

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@rickpowers3677 Ah okay thanks. He might be mistaking it with Crockett contracts too as the Midnights were definitely one of the first to have them there. They got one before Arn and Tully if I'm not mistaken.

    • @rickpowers3677
      @rickpowers3677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maxxdahl6062 that could be it.

    • @jerry85g7
      @jerry85g7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bobby was probably signed a couple years before Sting.

  • @leaespejo9776
    @leaespejo9776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Howdy friends

  • @jnicholson460
    @jnicholson460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hold on a sec. Bobby Eaton talked?

  • @reynaldoreyes9927
    @reynaldoreyes9927 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    10/30/1990 Jim Cornette & Stan Lane Quit WCW.

  • @sc30002001
    @sc30002001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Smoky mountain wrestling!!! Shut up God Damnit!!! 😆😂

  • @sourdeez5558
    @sourdeez5558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Early as a mug.

  • @jonavr1
    @jonavr1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    10:55 what was Corny doing to his Mom? 😲

    • @aaronexplicable2111
      @aaronexplicable2111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      _fistin_

    • @edwardcorey1071
      @edwardcorey1071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was fisting probably should have explained what it was cause it didn't sound good lol

  • @tangoblue
    @tangoblue ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Source: sone guy with bad audio production flapping his gums.

  • @jamaalmoses8821
    @jamaalmoses8821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    LPGA .🤣🤣

  • @constablekennedy7705
    @constablekennedy7705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Cody Rhodes trying Desperately to be Relevant away from the Shadow of Dusty but failing miserably ...

    • @NateOvTrinity
      @NateOvTrinity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol. Mark.

    • @gregorybaxter7594
      @gregorybaxter7594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NateOvTrinity truth hurts.

    • @NateOvTrinity
      @NateOvTrinity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gregorybaxter7594 you wish buddy.

    • @gregorybaxter7594
      @gregorybaxter7594 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NateOvTrinity I don't have to wish. The numbers back me.

    • @manuelper
      @manuelper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As much as I think Cody is modern day Jeff Jarret (but not as good an in ring wrestler), it's not really fair to hope that he could be even close to as big a star as Dusty. That's an impossible thing to live up to. Dusty was one of the biggest stars ever.

  • @sugartbube
    @sugartbube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dam Jim does a great Dusty

  • @bobbyrichmond2469
    @bobbyrichmond2469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the greatest Mangers ever

  • @asurlybarber3620
    @asurlybarber3620 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Coming someday to TH-cam: Jim Cornette On The Passing Of Jim Herd

    • @RyanS881
      @RyanS881 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      3 hr video

  • @knight2000-NC
    @knight2000-NC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    His impression of Dusty is awesome but Jim is such a hypocrite when he whined about Republications 16:25 in the same podcast while admitting he lied to Dusty about not telling the whole truth about Smoky Mountain Wrestling 7:35. Incredible wrestling knowledge and experience, but man I wish he had a better understanding of politics because he constantly embarrasses himself with the misguided whining.

    • @RainmakerXBooty
      @RainmakerXBooty ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ? What does not telling a former boss you don’t work for anymore that you’re starting your own business have to do with calling republicans POS for doing a lot more egregious things? Also how is he embarrassing himself, his channel is constantly growing. Dumb ass comment

    • @knight2000-NC
      @knight2000-NC ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh look another political robot. Yes, your comment is dumb.

  • @mattm7798
    @mattm7798 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's funny, you never hear an in between opinion on bill watts...either he was a mans man who was a good booker or a complete prick who looked out only for himself

  • @mattyb567567
    @mattyb567567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok

  • @manuhakala
    @manuhakala 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    16:18
    Over there

  • @patale1640
    @patale1640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They should of teamed Bobby up with Alex Wright and made them the new MX.

  • @BrianRosenbergMusican
    @BrianRosenbergMusican 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I never understood the appeal of Dusty Rhodes when I was a kid (around 1986 or so I started). I always thought nothing was spectacular about him. I always thought the NWA had so many better wrestlers. As a booker as I found out he was when I was way way older. I never understood how he got such a high position. It seems like cody is the same way and I thought both I thought didn't deserve the position they were in on the card. Everyone disagrees with me of course. I just never got both of them and how they were super main event.

    • @zacheatscrackers
      @zacheatscrackers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It was the charisma that got Dusty over at the time. The whole everyday working man aura. His look was nothing to write home about, but his promos and attitude and inflections were impeccable. It takes a special kind of talent to pull off Dusty Rhodes, and that’s why he’s considered one of the greats.
      Cody is different, in that he’s a lot more cut and youthful than his father, though from what I’ve seen he’s got a similar flamboyance and charm, though it doesn’t come off as a carbon copy of his pops. I haven’t seen his AEW stuff (yet), so I’m just going off what I’ve seen of his WWE stuffs.

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@zacheatscrackers and Dusty could be either a really good baby face, or a really good heel.

    • @TheSportsfan35
      @TheSportsfan35 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maxxdahl6062 Dusty started as a heel tagging with Dick Murdoch as the Texas Outlaws, that was in their first couple years in the business & were a great heel team, in fact Dusty before turning babyface in the mid 70's was working in 6 mans with The Blackjacks & was managed by Bobby Heenan & in FL, he was a part of Gary Hart's stable & they'd work with Eddie Graham & the other babyfaces there at the time. As a babyface, Dusty was the John Wayne of wrestling, he was the man.

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheSportsfan35 Yep they were heels in the AWA too.

    • @thebrainpimp136
      @thebrainpimp136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was Dusty's promos. He connected with the people in the 70s and always made people want to see him succeed. Cody...it's his dad's name.

  • @timmc8444
    @timmc8444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cornette mentioned he was talking to rick rude...and then drops that off...wonder what that was about

    • @walruswasrob
      @walruswasrob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rick Rubin, not Rick Rude.

    • @timmc8444
      @timmc8444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@walruswasrob well hes no rick rude

  • @guardianofchaosBD
    @guardianofchaosBD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Corny !!!!

  • @insupportofjunhado
    @insupportofjunhado 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jim Cornette's political views aside, he makes an interesting point. Natural disasters couldn't preempt wrestling. National elections couldn't do it, but a war could. The other two should probably be taken just as seriously, but the US has great pride in its military, and was excited to be part of a conflict the general populace supported after Vietnam.

  • @gusbalcazar8971
    @gusbalcazar8971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cornette mention midnight express every chance he gets in every interview. I don’t remember them ever being that great. Beautiful Bobby was way better on the solo. I remember his funny segment with Lord steve regal

    • @haljordan777
      @haljordan777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha. Jim is wrong about a lot of things, but that isn't one of the things that Jim Cornette is wrong about.

    • @donjohnson1498
      @donjohnson1498 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eaton was tremendous, in general, but The Midnight Express was awesome. I give the Condrey/Eaton pairing a slight edge over Lane/Eaton.

  • @KingMasadaX
    @KingMasadaX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the guy who calls Easy E a 1 trick pony? Midnight Express & a bunch of crap that failed (SMW, Camp Cornette, NWA invading WWF, countless Midnight reunions etc) at least Bischoff could navigate WWE & Turner cooperate, and has name value in 2021 on a broad scale, making him marketable & hirable, everything else is the same between the 2, beating 1 group into the ground, and nothing else successful, but Jim's wrestling worked in the 70s & 80s, failed in the 90s as we saw with SMW, cuz nobody cared, & damn sure wouldn't work today, adapt or perish, also I don't care if they were big draws, the nWo shirt alone brought in more money than the Midnight ever did.