Good Cow Work/Good Horse Work
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ส.ค. 2022
- This video is a little different than our usual videos. We shot this video on the ranch where Pat day works in Leona Valley CA. Then Pat narrated it Jackpot NV while we were headed to Idaho and Montana. I mention this because you can hear the sound of Harleys making their way home from Sturgis in the background. This video covers a subject that is near to Pat’s heart…low stress cattle work. On this day, they were weaning calves along a fence. This kind of cattle work is something that we’d like to begin teaching. For more information, visit our website, www.thedisciplinedride.com . Please take a moment to hit the Like button, Subscribe to our channel, and Share with your friends. Thank you for watching!
I just wanted to say. That is the way to handle cattle. The more good cattle handling and good horsemanship we can get out there the better. Keep teaching the right way Pat.
I almost asked if it was a bud box design. Glad I watched the whole video. Thanks guys
When I was 18, and knew everything, I went from growing up in Orchard country with a handy couple of FFA teachers who were good ranch hands and tried to instill working with cattle during field trips to the class to the flat land of North Dakota and helping on my friend's cattle ranch. I was a green cattle person working on a green horse that was waiting for the rancher to decide what he wanted to do with the horse. The first time we brought the cattle in from their grazing pasture was a big eye opening experience for me. Now it's more than 20 years later and I sure wish I knew everything I was sure I knew when I was 18. But I really enjoy watching your channel and listening to all your knowledge and stories. It takes me back. Thank you.
I could watch you and Deb and listen to you for a long time
IF THIS COUNTRY WAS MORE COUNTRY!!!! THANK YOU FOR SHARING..MERICA
Prayers for y'all
Quick recovery
That's absolutely the best way! Wish more people would work their cattle like that. Thanks for sharing.
This is one of the best videos you have ever made, and also one of the more important ones. We just had have 25 heifers and a bull plus calves to work so only about 50, give or take. We work the cows but don't own them.. a hobby rancher owns them and doesn't know his head from his elbow so my husband and I have brought him up right and he knows better.. than the story you are reading. We believe in working the cows slowly and deliberately. Keeps everything smooth and safe and doing it this way, slowly and mindful of the stress is just our way. We have no one to impress but the cows.. SO, The land owner brought in about 6 dinks the last time we preg tested, vaccinated etc, and all the whoopin and hollering sounded like a bad B Western 😳 it took forever to get them done. The few of us that were there that did know something worked our asses off., trying to correct it constantly. I felt sorry for the cows. Thry didn't know what the hell was going on. So these dinks were from the city. The women standing around in their glamorous garb, like white puffy jackets and pink leggings, high heels etc, and in every single spot they shouldn't have been. The men standing around at various gates and chutes, flexing their muscles for each other and talking about so,so, tick tock thing. Constantly having to be told to open the gates,, close the gates,, etc.. After being 4 hours into a 3 hour job, with the cows wearing out just from being stressed, I finally took it upon myself to ask the ALL to get somewhere else. The land owner got pissed at me because these are elites from San Francisco. I said to him they could be the owners of Delta Airlines and I would care either way. 5 hours later,, the vet was there, at the request of the hobby rancher, landowner was annoyed at best and she was exhausted from the BS. She looked at me and I looked at her and I said this turned out to be a 10 hour day for you. She said not quite but thats what I'm gonna charge him for entertaining the audience. Enough said. Thanks for the video. Very informative. I watch everything you guys put out and you are exceptional people. We don't get out much due to the fuel prices up here in Point Arena, CA or we would stop in and see you one days. Thank you so much.
Thank you very much for the sad story. We hope to get to ride with you someday. Pat had a similar situation a few weeks ago. The problem he had was if he yelled at the dinks, the cows wouldn’t know that he wasn’t yelling at them! It’s a no win situation for sure.
@@PatnDebPuckett thank you guys
This is such a peaceful way to raise animals. Thank you for posting!❤️👍
I liked that you made that leap from angles on foot to same angles horse back and apply it in the context of making a good horse. 5% shrink to 3% = 40% better, but there is more…… buenisimo!
Learn something new always when I watch your videos, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge!
Great video. Looks like all of us livin out west need to pray for rain.
People keep talking about this “shortage of help” but that’s because nobody what’s to give new cowboys a chance. I’m willing to travel and willing to work but everyone says they “want three to five years experience and someone that can hit the ground running” well… alright. Y’all keep lookin.
That’s very true. We just want someone who will show up!
running remudas would get more help too. Most ranches want you to bring personal horses and it has killed the “nomad” cowboy in my personal opinion.
thank you 4 another great production
I'm a big fan of Fenceline weaning. We tend to wean big calves so by the time we wean the calves are eating plenty of hard feed. Mama's just a buddy. They check in a the fence and both walk away. It's a good feeling. Kinda like watching the parents dropping off their freshman at college...Nothing better than walking parallel to calves as they pace and see them slow down, stop, watch you walk by and then drop their head and go to grazing.
I love watching your videos. I learn so much and have so much respect for how you do things and how you train your horses. It's inspiring.
Bermuda, value of zero? 100% of all alfalfa is bought and trucked into the far south. The absolute best feed we can grow is Bermuda hay, both for horses and cattle. Many have absolutely no understanding of how things are done in different areas of the country. I was one of them as a kid, when I saw what “good” feed was I was dumbfounded. Things are sure done differently all across the country, I never fit in because I stayed away from the old cow puncher ways and was always considered as more of a horseman rather than a “cowboy”. Great to see your videos, always great quality and I do like your humor.
I've always considered good cowboys to be good horsemen. Horsemen without a job for their horses or cowboys without a good horse under them seem to come up short on both subjects.
Always appreciate cow work videos.
Thank you Pat and Deb. Sorry to hear ya got bunged up. I sure hope ya heal like a good horse...slow but well.
We started doing this in southern AZ when were there. We also think how you sort the calves makes all the difference in the world. We think a quiet, low stress sort is key to how the calves respond when the weaning period begins. In AZ we had a pretty good fence but we still added an electric fence wire on the calf side. We also put one or two babysitter cow/calf pairs in with the calves. Usually the cows we put in with the calves have heifers at their side that are replacement heifer prospects. Once the calves are weaned, we put the pairs back in with the dry cow herd and let the cows wean the heifer replacement calves at their side.
The babysitter pairs give the weaners leadership and comfort which is we think helpful in taking stress off the calves. It also helps to have the leadership of pairs in with the calves if you need to move or trail the weaned calves. Our calves there is little to no pacing on the fence line and they are done balling in 1-3 days.
Here in Missouri because we have horned cows, we have an electric fence wire on the cow side and on the calf side of the weaning fence. Prolly overkill. We actually sort the cows off the calves in a temporary lane, in a pasture. The lane is made of one strand of electric polywire on each side and a polywire across the back for a backstop. The gate end is a two way sort. Cows one way, calves the other. Just me and Vivian for all the work. It should be noted that part of the year our herd is grazed behind electric fence wire so the cows are hot wire broke and the calves usually as well by weaning time. I have a neighbor with 200 hd polled herd who weans his calves with one single poly electric wire between the cows and calves.
We also have water on the fence line that waters both sides of the fence line. The cows ball longer than the calves. The advantage for where we are in Missouri is the calves get weaned on stockpiled green grass so they have no stress from change in feed.
Cattle looking good.
Fascinating...again.
Looking forward to more cattle working videos
Great and invaluable information. Thanks from East Idaho.
Very interesting. More please!👍👏
Love this - had just heard about "straight fence line weaning " the other day - sure makes a pile of sense - and already folks like you have it down to an art:) Sorry it is so dry!
Very informative. Thank you.
Nice to hear your opinion on this stuff. We do the same here (central Montana). I love the "fall works", preconditioning, weaning, shipping, preg check, etc. Best time of riding & working cattle.
We're in a drought too for another year, looks like. Maybe we'll get some snow/rain next year. 🐃🐃🐃🏇 Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
Love it!
Mr. Pat’s comment on dayworking…my city girl wife mentioned sometime back about life after I retire from cow hunting…I told her cowboys don’t retire, we just want to get where we don’t have to work full time somewhere…
Nice video, thanks 😊. Brought back some fun memories of my life in harney and malheur County. Years ago.
Did you know Dave Stoddart?
Excellent . . enjoyed all of it. Allot of time I am on foot just walking the cows nwe do not have all the space as you have on this ranch , but slow is better for all of us.
Thanks
Thanks ..thats a awesome video👈
Those are some big calves.
My grandfather, born in 1901, always had a rule. He wouldn't let you in the cow pens horseback until he saw you handle cattle on foot. He said he didn't need his corral torn down by an idiot.
Well...
I'd bet that's low stress
if there's a calf milkin'...
while...
yer herding...😄
DEB could you tell me what drone you are using ..You and this drone are taking some VERY nice shots ?
All about being in the right places at the right time, folks are always moving too much and too fast.
Are there a couple steers w/the cows and or bulls turned out?
Hi Pat I need some advice. I have 2 horses and a two horse straight load trailer. Now one both of the horses load great but one of them is a kicker and he just will not stop kicking in there. Do you have any advice for me Thanks
There is no good solution that I’m willing talk about…
I hope from God and then from you that you will do and put the translation into Arabic
This is so much easier on the cattle, the horses, AND the people AND it makes sense .. Why would you want to run all the tallow off your cows ..doesn't make sense.. this is just a LOT EASIER NO RUSH NO RUN JUST PLAIN QUIET !! Thank you very much for a REALLY DIFFERENT and interesting video .. OH, and DEB NICE job of videoing .. I Do have a probably STUPID question ...
since I do not have cattle, never had any so I do not KNOW, BUT how do you know WHEN to WEAN the calves.. Lots of animals wean their young by themselves in nature but of course, these cattle are not IN the wild so HOW do you know ..????? Is it the size, the age or What ??
6-8 months is the general rule but you also have to factor in weather and the availability of feed.
@@PatnDebPuckett That makes sense .. This appears to be a REALLY GOOD way to do this ... .. This sure beats the dickens out of RUNNING your horse ragged, kicking up dust and SCARING the calves half crazy ..Not to mention all the hub bub to the COWS ???? Thanks for answering sorry to take up your time