Marcus Pettersson Dealt To The Vancouver Canucks! | Instant Analysis
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2025
- Steve Dangle recaps and analyses the deal made late last night between the Vancouver Canucks and Pittsburgh Penguins. Did Vancouver trade too much in exchange for Marcus Pettersson? Are the Penguins making the right call dealing assets
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Having three players named Pettersson on one team is really a middle finger to JT miller
That’s hilarious 🤣
They should get Emilio Pettersson into Abbotsford from Texas Stars
Don't be so Petty son.
@AJ-ox6yi ooooh I'd bump this up if I could 😂
@@AJ-ox6yi Petey or Petty?
In their next trade, Vancouver willl acquire Oskar Pettersson from the Ottawa Senators to complete the set of current Petterssons playing for NHL franchises.
They will then trade for prospect Lukas Pettersson from the Ducks so they can play one preseason game with a Pettersson/Pettersson/Pettersson line with Pettersson/Pettersson on defense.
They'll also find a way to play the rangers and send that line on the ice vs miller
We need a goalie named Pettersson!
Ooh, of they get those guys they can start building houses and hotels!
vancouver petterssons
Next up, let's get all the Hughes!
Marcus Pettersson was arguably the best rental defenseman option for this trade deadline. And he's a Legit Top 4 defenseman. If you're wanting to acquire one, you're going to have to pay for it.
No he isn't, he's part of the reason Pittsburgh sucks, this is hilarious
@@zachhaist6426he’s not the best defensemen in the league but he is undeniably a top 4 lmfao
@@zachhaist6426huh? Not a fan of either but tf are you talking about
@@zachhaist6426 when you look his MP he is well above average in most categories. I think the Penns suck ...because the Penns suck.
This D is looking pretty good all of a sudden (as long as everyone can stay healthy).
Hughes (best in the world) + Myers (playing the best hockey since Calder Cup winning year)
Hronek (a top 1-2 pairing D on most teams with a boomer shot as long as he can let it go) + Markus Petterrson (a #3 or 4 on a very good team and #1 on a trash team)
Sousy (played excellent last year but struggling a little this year... when he turns it around-watch out) + Juulsen (hard hitting MF that has been getting better)
Who is number 7?
@@nameless_no_name forbort, Elias petterson defenseman, mancini, willander will be 7th so lots of choices
Getting rid of Desharnais is a W in itself bro is actually a pylon getting rid of some inefficient contracts, getting cap space in the future and getting a pretty good defenseman in M.Pettersson is what the nucks needed
my 11 year old nephew can make a better outlet pass that Desharnais 🤣
If you combine these two trades into one...
The Canucks gave up
Miller; Heinen; Brannstrom (who is playing in the minors); two prospects who will likely never play a game in the NHL, and Desharnais who has been a healthy scratch.
Total points: 64 points
Total Cap Hit: $13 million
The Canucks got:
A third Pettersson, Chytil, O'Connor, Mancini
Total Points: 59
Total Cap Hit: $10 million
Furthermore, Elias Pettersson played better without Miller in the lineup, so this could help him return to form.
I'm calling this a win.
Good analysis. I see this as a win also, especially considering Miller had to go and there was only one place he would waive his NMC.
You nailed it.
They lost one of the best all situation forwards in the league. And replaced him with a guy who has 11 goals.....they lost lmao
It's only a win if they can retain M. Pettersson beyond this season.
I think overall it works out for the Canucks. Their blue line gets better and they finally can put the JT Miller locker room drama behind them. Hard to come out with a huge win after that drama but they did the best they could.
Alvine was itching to ship out that 1 round pick the moment he got it 😂
Actually not quite if u had any brains left u would know that the 2025 draft is weak. So that number 1 pick might evaporate regardless what happens to NYR.
@@adamtajhassam9188If YOU had any brains left you’d know that it’s protected top 13 in 2025.
And if the Rangers pick high, it becomes an unconditional 2026 1st round pick. With a much stronger draft class a potential generational player in Mckenna.
Maybe don’t call other people stupid when you clearly have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
That was likely the plan, my guess is they were aiming for marcus petersson but penguins who are likely going to go into a rebuild soon wanted a 1st round pick
@adamtajhassam9188 If you had any brains you would know we won't truly know how good the 2025 draft class is until around 2030
More so Rutherford
Huge fan of Marcus Pettersson
As a Canucks fan, I will say this everywhere I can... The Canucks are not bad. They are not doing bad.
The situation in Vancouver has been pushed to the extreme by the pretty toxic media.
Hughes + Marcus Petterson
Hronek + Elias Petterson
Myers + the rotation
A much improved D core right there from earlier in the season
Marcus Pettersson and Hughes both play the left side.
Hughes - Myers (definitely not my first choice but he's what we have right now and at least serviceable)
M. Pettersson - Hronek
Forbort - Soucy
E. Pettersson - Mancini
Juulsen
And next year bump Soucy to the left side where Forbort is, put Myers on the right side third pairing with him, bump Hronek back up with Hughes, and play Willander with M. Pettersson.
The Canucks just gained a TON of defensive depth real quick.
We all know that lame saying nuck fans tried to get going “cAnUCks aRe gOoD 🤪”
We all know… Canucks are in fact. Bad :) in fact it’s possible to say trash as well. Either or works :)
@@criticallycanadian I totally agree with what you wrote CRITICALLY Canucks D was awful a month ago. They may have sustained a small hit to their forward line by replacing Miller with Chytil....but they absolutely improved their D with MPete.
Dumping Heinen and Desharnais and the additional CAP was the sweetest part of the two transactions combined.
The Canucks will have a calm lockerroom which will translate into success over the long haul.
Also to mention canucks D prospect pool right now includes elias petterson, tom willander (1st round 2way right handed) and krill kudryatsev a very up and coming puck moving dman
Next couple years canucks are going to have a hell of a dcore if Markus extends
I have no issue with a management team acknowledging mistakes quickly
Yeah. Sure they signed those contracts in the offseason, and they didnt work out, but they were cheap and short, therefore easy to move if it didn't work out. Some of their cheap and short contracts worked, like sherwood, Suter, Lankinen, etc. Considering the cap hell they inherited, I think this management group has navigated it pretty well. They aren't the best ever, but they are way better than Benning was.
Pettersson has carried the pens blueline for two years in the back end and are used to sub par goalkeeping. He's way better than he's getting credit for, honestly if have my way he'd be on the 4 nations cup roster.
yup
He reminds me of Hjalmarsson
Many just don't understand things on deeper levels, they look at the surface and draw conclusions based solely off that.
ngl the thank you in asl at the end of each rant is so comforting
As a Canucks fan, I came for the raging Leafs fan, but stayed for a good guy whose takes I'm actually interested in.
'YOU'RE NOT EVEN YOUR TEAMS BEST PETTERSSON!!!"
Dang, which Pettersson are you talking to? 😂
It's a good problem to have.
@@gocanuckgusHe is talking about Pettersson of course. Pettersson and Pettersson arent as good as Pettersson.
That Canucks team sucks, and yes, which petey you talking about? They alllll suck equally
@ ah true, although Pettersson is just a rookie, we’ll see what he can do, and Pettersson looks promising, but we all agree Pettersson needs to step up
I’m a Sabres fan … I know, do I have a death wish. Happened across this video and I like the enthusiasm and insight. You are different than so many other hockey TH-camrs. Just appreciate it
Dude, as much of a Leafs homer he is, he is great.
I've seen bad Canucks teams in the past and they way back was always addition by subtraction. Shipping Miller out was inevitable. But shipping Desharnaise and Heinen opportunistically was really smart. In the off season they now have cap space to work with even if everybody walks.
I agree with Desharnais, but why all the hate for Heinen? He did what was expected of a 3rd line player with his cap hit.
I'm thinking now that Mr Drama is gone, we might see other good things potentially. (PS he cheated on his wife and that is why he had to ditch the team for 7 games to salvage his marriage)
First, maybe we can sign Boesar now,
2nd, hopefully EP40 finds his elite ways again
3rd maybe other players were ALSO being sh!t on by Miller and will now start performing again, like Hogie! Could use his 24 goals now.
Miller may have been hurting other things on this team. In hindsight, maybe we should have kept Horvat and traded Miller to NYI???
If MP works for us, I am OK keeping him as a 2-4 D because he will not make Miller money even after a bump next year. He will be maybe 5.75 to 6.5M on the market if all goes well
@@nameless_no_name I like Boeser, but term and cap hit need to be team-friendly... like 7 million and 5 years. He's injury prone and I detest when GM's sign players until they are 35. They almost never play out the last 2-3 years. They just call it in.
Not really. Drew O'Connor has essentially the same numbers at 975k? Either that or 925 and it's been a bit of a down year for him. So yeah he's overhated certainly but it's not a great return for 2.25 million per either.
@@danielpatterson5189 Just saying that in the grand scheme of things, Heinen isn't the bad guy here LOL... there are way bigger offenders on this Canuck's team not earning their cap hit like Desharnais and EP40.
G: Pettersson
A: Pettersson, Pettersson
Have 3 people with the same name ever combined for a goal before? Guessing it would be Howes or Sutters if it's happened?
Canucks fan here. I like what they did. We doubled our deadline cap space and cleared a tonne of room next year.
We are worse up front and better on d. But now we have the room to add if we are still in the mix at the deadline.
10 mil could be a top forward or a top d man.
They could pick up karlsson with no retention and still add up front with a couple small moves.
Just imagine a d comprised of
Hughes Hronek
Patterson Karlsson
Soucy and Myers
That’s a pretty good looking d core…if it were to happen.
theyve created cap space to keep Boeser.
Another thing about improvement on back end.
2016, 2019 and last year team have in common with this team is strong defense.
Even though jt miller is gone, the improvements on defense is the main thing.
Offensively degressed, but the strong defense should help canucks make a playoff run.
And it really is up ep40 to show if he can be back to his point for game player. If that happens, canucks will be where they should be in, contending for the cup. 🤞
And they've given Petterson the 1st, a real challenge to giddyup!
Could have included that Rutherford and Allvin were part of the front office in charge that brought Pettersson and O connor to Pittsburgh
They love their guys.
GMJR 100% LOVES his guys. Lmao.
If the locker room in Vancouver gets better and Elias starts playing like an elite forward again then yes it was worth trading miller, plus they add Marcus and others, so i guess only time will tell.
Canucks didn't just pick Pettersson over Miller, they also picked Pettersson over Miller.
Classic cAnUcKs fAn 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
As a pens fan I’m happy as hell. A first for Petterson is great. Dubas is stacking picks for the rebuild that they desperately need to start at this point so I’m all for it.
Yeah but why give up a proven d man for potentially a good d man
@ they’re rebuilding bro, Pettersons 28 or 29 in his “prime”. You gotta sell players when they’re hottest for picks. A first for Petterson is amazing.
@@Pro_Paks not to mention a first for Pettersson is actually a first for Daniel Sprong. Let's see if that turns into unprotected 2026 1st
Dubas quietly stacking a ton of draft picks over the next couple years 👏🏻
He is doing a really great job. Can't believe the Media isn't acknowledging that. He gets decent to great value out of every trade.
@@pascalplenge1882 Except that Karlsson trade.
@@ozzymandias7649 was the last try to keep the window open. But really hasn't hurt the pens as much a people think. Cleared a bit cap (short term) and even made the Pens younger. If the pens don't get rid of his contract, it doesn't matter. They will suck anyway.
The big things to critisize are the contracts of graves and Jarry
But same argument here. The pens suck anyway. The dead cap is not really the biggest issue.
The problem is thinking that was a way to keep the window open in the first place, doing exactly what didn’t work for the Sharks (Burns/Karlsson) and basically every team that tried it before, having multiple star offensive defenseman on the same team, it just dilute both effectiveness it doesn’t add on ... and since they are bad to average in defense can’t be paired together outside of PP.
Hell it didn’t work with Letang, Matheson/Petry before they acquired Karlsson. Matheson having ice time in Montreal bumped his numbers greatly and came right down to earth once Hutson became first pair.
@@pascalplenge1882 Karlsson is terrible and a bad fit for the system. I'll go ahead and disregard your hockey opinions since you don't know what you're talking about.
"With the Miller trade, Pettersson better improve."
- I'm sorry, you're gonna have to be more specific. Which Pettersson are you talking about?
"Elias Pettersson"
- I'm sorry, you're gonna have to be more specific. Which Pettersson are you talking about?
Last night I told my son....hey, looks like Petey got an assist
Dad, that was DPetey....
lol...and so it begins. The Canucks era of confusion.
Petterson and Canucks, name a more iconic duo, I'll wait.
3 Hughes in a devils jersey in two years
@@Naka_- you win
Biggest element is the change in the locker room culture.
Do we get EP40 back to his usual elite level of play.
M Pettersson improves this D a lot.
Hughes, Hronek, M Pettersson as a top 3 is great…
Slides Myers down to 4th, Soucy 5th, …
Sixth is now one of;
Forbort
Juulsen (RD)
D-Petey (LD)
Mancini? (RD)
Which is MUCH better than before.
Maybe Canucks bring back Cole. To stabilize 2nd pair.
Team should be able to win those closer games now, with better defensive play.
OConnor can help with speed and physicality that Heinen never brought as we hoped.
O’Connor Raty Sherwood or Högglander might be a nice 4th line.
"Biggest element is the change in the locker room culture.
Do we get EP40 back to his usual elite level of play."
You are 100% correct here.
just imagining a theoretical goal with all 3 Pettersons. "Pettersson from Pettersson and Pettersson at 3:44" 🤣
That would be cool.
Maybe for the nerds, but if Rantanen and Miller weren't just traded, Kuzmenko, Pettersson, and Granlund are names that still deserve a video!
Canucks did the exact same thing a bit ago with the horvat trade. Traded horvat for a first, rookie, and a first round pick, then flipped it for a defenceman. That worked out great because hronek is great and they re-signed him. Hopefully the same happens and the rangers pick ends up being middle of the pack or even later.
Damn Dangle. Nice work.
Vancouver fan.
You guys have been hard on Dubas because of time in Toronto. As a Penguins fan - Kyle has done awesome job in Pittsburgh, yes couple of mistakes (Graves, Jarry) like every GM. But overall he have stocked a lot of picks for next three drafts and made our AHL team really good with some young talanted players. Very excited to see what he can do in the future and hopefully make Pens great again. (don't show this to Adam)
As a leafs fan who followed the pens, i saw your team go from playoff contention to bottom feeders with no future in a season and a half.
you ship the most goals of any team in the league.
smith
ek
graves
jarry
gryzlek
bad.
trading jake away. BAD.
trading pett away. BAD!!!!!!
you have no defence left at all.
@@thePOWERofART-11 We had our run for many many years. Time to retool and get younger. Kyle tried to maybe extend the window with Ek and other guys and it didn't work. Guentzel trade is fine tbh, it hurt at the time but now i am pretty happy with it. I am just frustrated when people who don't do research and just keep talking sh*t about Dubas what he did in the past. That's delusional
@@thePOWERofART-11
The future was gone before Dubas took over. Hextall ruined the pens situation.
The Rielly Smith deal was very reasonable at the time, good price, in the end it hasn't worked out but really was worth a try. Even shipped him out for a solid pick. No real regrets here. Hasn't hurt the pens a lot in the end.
The Karlsson trade was in the end the last real push to keep the window open. Actually cleared some cap and even made the Penguins younger no joke. The only thing that's the problem is the contract in the longterm. But my heavens who cares? The Deal is running until 2028. Who the heck thinks, that the pens are competing until then, especially when the big 3 are gone? The contract simply does not matter when the Pens suck anyway.
Graves and Jarry. Defintitely regrets here. The Graves signing was very unnessesary. But the Jarry one really had no alternative. There was no other goalie option on the market at that time. And Jarry had some good seasons. He was an all star at some point. But same argument here. Now in the rebuild, the contracts aren't really important. It is how it is. The pens can be patient on the position now. They've got insane goalie prospects. The future is very bright here.
Grzelcyk. Only good on the powerplay. But the numbers here are solid. Good piece to move at the deadline as well. Was not a huge risk.
Trading Jake. Jake wasn't going to stay He was too expensive. He alone wouldn't have kept the window open. He had to go. The return for him is extremely underrated. Great prospects who are doing very very well in the AHL and the 2nd rounder (whether you pick 28th or 44th usually doesn't really matter) Harrison Brunicke almost made the freaking roster to start the season. He can become a top blue liner. Dubas made an insane steal here. Can't wait for the kid. Canada got a real diamond on the blue line for the future.
The Petterson deal is the right one too. A fresh 3rd round prospect? Just the topping to a 1st runder that might be the 14-18 th pick (have to see there) Insane compared with an own pretty much safe top 10 pick this draft. Petterson now has the value. It was time to move him. Same goes for Rakell in the summer. At least a 1strounder too. Might be more.
Dubas is doing everything he can to invest in the longterm future and he is doing really great. With every trade he cashes out great value. The pens have the most picks in the next 4 years in the first 3 rounds out of all teams. The prospect pool only has improved the last year at least 10 spots. The AHL team has become one of the best ones in just a year. And like i said. More trades are to be made. And Dubas is increasing the value of the pens with every single one of them. The guy has a Plan. And I love to see it. He was the first one to acknowledge the rebuild was necessary. And thank god it was him. Right plan. Right decisions.
Dubas derangement syndrome. Were rebuilding dummy.
This is a genius move by the Nucks...
NOBODY wants to be the worst Pettersson on the team...
I think the comment you missed is yes Canucks messed up on Heinen and Vinny but their management didn't double down, they admitted the mistake and shipped them out. SO SO SO many management teams would just say no we didn't mess up and keep the player to not look bad.
Heinen and Vinny are pylons we won that trade
I actually cheered when I heard we got rid of desharnais
Vinny was barely playable, he was healthy scratched so many games this season. He got signed for too much and too long tbh. Good riddance!
Maybe for the Canucks, but what the Pens needed was someone who can stay home and defend the crease. Works for me. And Heinen is fine too. Sometimes, trades are win-win
The real loser here is John Shorthouse
Lmao!!
WHO?
@@Naka_- Canucks announcer.
@@Naka_- 3 peety's
This was a great analysis. Keep it up bro
The outcomes of these recent trades should speak a lot about both miller and Petterson/canucks. With miller it’s expected that he’ll always be decent to great but will a longer time span quell his reputation as a tough guy to have on a team or will he change the narrative. And with the canucks and especially Petterson will we see a player/team who needed the distractions gone to excel or will Petterson continue to be an underachiever. I think we should find out if miller was the problem or not. He’s polarizing for sure but perhaps he became a scapegoat for a bigger problem
You can be sure Allvin already had a deal to sign Pettersson beyond this year.
As a Pens fan I have actually been happy with most of Dubas’ moves. They just need to stop him from signing large contracts on July 1st
Same. He has taken a bare cupboard and actually filled it. People (mostly Adam) keep comparing the Penguins to the Capitals and they are just not the same. The Penguins sold every pick and prospect on the way to three cups. The Caps only won one, but maintained their prospect pool throughout. They have pieces to play with now. They had an infusion of youth throughout Ovi's time. Dubas is doing that on the fly for the Pens.
I like how he's revamped the farm system in WBS.
Good coverage, here. Nice!
Pens fan: Marcus Pettersson was traded to Pittsburgh by Anaheim for Daniel Sprong on December 3, 2018.
Seems fitting for Vancouver to make this trade considering the Sprong histrory. Maybe this is the Sprong future considerations.
I wish the Pens got Elias Pettersson dman or Nils Hoglander. Where's Hoglander Dubas? Dakota Joshua or Keifer Sherwood?
Great breakdown.
Dubas has done an outstanding job as the Gm the problem is we can’t just tank because we can’t get Crosby out and we love him to much to trade him.
So basically having three unrelated guys named Pettersson make the Vancouver Canucks the 2025 version of Duran Duran.
Loving the new sdpn gear
The Canucks aren't done. They're going after a top 6 center next.
Please let this first round pick be a solid middle 6 forward for the greatness of the trade tree
As a Canucks fan, I like this analysis!
MP29 will help us immensely and take pressure off Hughes, I have a sneaky suspicion O'Connor will become a fan favourite, and we get Chytil and Mancini as well basically for JT
Good trades for all parties involved 👌
Petterson, Petterson & Petteson- it's starting to sound like a family law firm- not a hockey franchise! Great analytical breakdown of the trades SDPN! I love your hockey smarts and passion!
Dubas is only hated outside of Pittsburgh most pens fans I know actually like him and the direction he’s taking us. No one is actually paying attention though so they all think he’s doing a bad job 🤦🏼
That’s what we used to think in Toronto. After 5 years of terrible decisions you can see the damage he did
@@pahul79he didn’t do a fantastic job in Toronto but that’s a totally different situation going for it every year to now. He went for it one year saw it just isn’t going to work and immediately turned around and started the rebuild/retool. Which all of his trades have been good for. Some of our prospects are looking great too
@@sjhoodini88wild34 I think he’s going a terrible job in Pittsburg too. Look at the types of players he brings in. Outside of karlsson he brought in nobody of quality. Brings in guys like Cody glass, bauvillier, Hayes (3.5 million lol).
Dubas has a notorious track record for under valuing superstars and overvaluing , overpaid depth players
I like that sdpn pull over
"This one's for the nerds" is quite accurate.
As a Vancouver fan who sees what a lot of other Vancouver fans have to say about.... everything, the casuals HATE these trades. They just see that we lost JT Miller, the guy whose name is chanted the most at Rogers, who has often been the guy to make a clutch play in OT, the guy who will drop the gloves for his team, etc. And don't get me wrong, I am a fan of JT Miller.
But I also worry about the games in which he hasn't shown up, when he looks disinterested, when he's been coasting on the backcheck, losing coverage in clutch situations, etc. And I worry about his contract! He's on year 2 of a 7 year contract.... if he's coasting and putting in half-assed efforts now.... what's he gonna be like in the last few years of the contract?
The casuals just see that we lost the biggest name in the trade, and think that means we got fleeced. We got a bunch of cap flexibility in the years to come, and have improved our defensive core which has probably been the biggest hole this season. Marcus Pettersson is not an exciting guy like JT Miller, but I think our defense will be a lot more stable with him in it. I hope (and somewhat expect) that he will be resigned and stick around for a few seasons. If Marcini works out even as a solid 3rd pair guy, that's another win. I don't need exciting pieces in these trades, just low risk solutions to the problems the Canucks are facing at the current moment, and I think that's what we got.
Canucks are clearly resigning
M Patterson why is this even a question to you lol
I don’t think M Petterson stays in Vancouver. They need him now because they have so many injuries on the blue line. If they have all their healthy players back, does MP go to the third line?
There is only 1 injury on defence rn, and that's hughes and he's considered day to day. MPetey, was a top pairing guy in Pittsburgh, he'll play top 4 mins here in van.
Hughes- Myers
Hronek-Mpetey
Soucy-Forbort
Extras dpetey, Mancini
Vinnie is utterly useless trading him off the roster was phenomenal as he's outright awful. And we needed someone like Marcus so freaking bad like so bad.
If the canucks resign Pettersson then the trade is fine, but if not thats...an overpayment.
However it all works out in the end...Time will tell. But right now. the thing I appreciate the most as a Canucks fan is that we did not give up any of our top prospects. If this was the Gillis era, one, two or more of those guys would have been shipped out.
I think you recapped it very well although it always seems like Rutherford is playing 3D chess so trying to guess at what his plans are is futile.
Can't wait to see the Canucks get a goalie that's consistent , haven't seen one in Vancouver in a decade
The Canucks are now the Vancouver Petes the same way the Avalanche are now the Colorado Woods.
I would argue, as a Pens fan, that in general Pens fans are pretty optimistic about Dubas. You have to keep in mind that that GMJR and Hextall stripped the cupboard bare of prospects, and there was a bad trade that Hextall would say no too. The Pens need picks and prospects, and Dubas is doing that.
On the Penguins end of it, this was them freeing up some salary cap space to make another trade involving eother Letang or Karlson and them retaining some salary in that deal. I guarantee you will see at least two more Pittsburgh Penguins trades before the deadline.
Canucks have had at least 2 below replacement level defenders at all times this season. Huge improvement.
I like the deal. Dubas traded two guys that weren't likely to be resigned for two players, a 1st rounder and a prospect. Heinen is, almost, an even swap for DOC, who's struggled this year. Desharnais is not close to Pettersson, but can, hopefully, use his size to clear out the front of the Pens' net. Tonight, against Nashville, he had four blocked shots and a hit, playing third pairing minutes with Ryan Graves.
I have a feeling we got Marcus Pettersson to pair with Willander, and Willander might join the team either in march or to start next year. Tocchet is familiar with the player, he fits the defensive structure more, and possibly makes Soucy a trade chip.
Great for the Canucks for some intangibles. Marcus Petersson will add a calming Swedish element voice to the team, and they are going to need that He's a really solid PK'er and is reliable and suprisingly fearless in that he'll stick up and get in some dangerous fights! O'Conner or OC as we called him, he really does have another level and his value should become immediately evident. He is/was under some sort of curse when it came to goal scoring, but I'm sure the clean air in BC will benefit him. Decent trade for both teams.
Penguins have 29 draft picks for the next 3 drafts. I don’t know how you think Dubas is doing a bad job when he’s doing exactly what he’s set out to do successfully
As a Penguins fan, not a fan of the trade. Marcus Pettersson does not get the credit he should when he’s blocking pucks with his body, making assists, and even getting goals. Not a fan of trading players and treating people like they’re trading cards, especially during midseason. It’s incredibly creepy when fans talk about owning players and selling them. If they trade their top goal scorer Rakell like some weirdoes keep saying, especially since his family is expecting another baby this season and already had some concerns, I’ll be livid.
Some keep wanting to trade everyone, including Crosby. It’s poor business to put every focus into the future and forgetting that if you don’t focus on the present your business won’t have a future. Must be Flyers’ fans.
Been waiting for this upload all morning, let's go
Not the worst trade. Signing desharnais and Heinen earlier was dumb but I like the whole package
Looking outside of the “drama”, Canucks actually got rid of Miller now while his stock is still significant because basing on the player’s age, is on a slow but downward trajectory with 5 more years at 8m+ per.
Vancouver can use that extra pocket money to sign Marcus Pettersson long term if they wish.
5:00 ... Who is saying Danton Heinen in on a bad contract? He's on pace for just over 25 points while his on ice goal differential is 2 ABOVE expected. That's worth $2.25 million.
On the other hand, Desharnais was a bad contract. He shouldn't be making more than league minimum.
As long as he performs as expected, the canucks hit a home freaking run. JT Miller has been coasting all year. Heinen and Vinny were detriments on top of Miller's locker room and defensive issues. Our D core suddenly looks it's best in 12 years. And hopefully this team can just get back to hockey and having fun.
Home run from Allvin/JR
Allvin is on the record saying he wants to keep Pettersson long term. They've been looking for a top 4 D since last June
Petterson passes to Petterson who passes to Petterson who scores.Goal by Petterson assist to Petterso.Second assist to Petterson.Sorry Shorthouse.
This redeems the Miller trade to the Rangers. Went from a fleecing to an even pick up for the Canucks.
As a pens fan you would obviously rather see a wild card like hoglander over heinen again but the trade should work for both teams. Tossing in doc who is better than his stats show and taking on the rough numbers next year got mp to a 1st without the stress of trying to play chicken at the deadline and getting stuck holding the bag. Alvin following in jims shoes starting early and paying for what you want not what is left.
Desharnais will definitely help on the PIM stat for the Pens. Too bad they are poorly timed and are never for standing up for teammates. Good Luck.
Marcus Pettersson is a UFA this summer so I’m hoping/guessing they expect to re-sign him.
He’s been a plus player every season with the Pens (except for -2 this season, currently) with good defensive stats.
Still so upset by yesterday but I’ll admit it’s difficult to assess other teams’ defence (minus flashy skaters/offensive defencemen) unless they give the puck up or make noticeable mistakes.
It took years for Chris Tanev to be properly valued and by then it was too late as the Canucks blew it by letting him go and have regretted it since.
I’m just a dummy though and won’t act like I know better than actual hockey people, but I sure hope they know they’re getting a steal in Marcus Pettersson.
Still though, that conditional 1st could skyrocket in value if the Rangers (currently sitting 11th from last) lose a few games or if they lose a Shesterkin/Panarin to injury, but obviously Canucks management expects them to take off so they found the pick to have it’s highest value now.
If it works out, a top-4 of Hughes/Hronek/M Pettersson/Tom Willander next season onwards, could look great. Then Lekkerimaki next season hopefully adds some scoring, hmm it makes sense why the Canucks wanted Jake Guentzel so bad last trade deadline/off season.
I just don’t know, the head’s spinning and I gotta go to the gym haha - the thought of JT Miller not a Canuck anymore hurts but after that emotion settles down (can relate to a lot of his passionate qualities clearly haha) I’ll patiently hope this works out long term. Hate to see a guy like that go though.
One of these days we need a goal scored by Pettersson with assists from Pettersson and Pettersson, make it happen Vancouver!
I nerd'ed it up on this one. The Canucks got better..worse? They're different and will have to adjust. Hoglander, Lekkerimaki and Raty will have to score by committee I think, to make up for a 100 pt player. Pettersson will, of course, need to gain previous form.
People have been far too hard on Dubas. He had a rough first year. Since then he has been much better. Seems like a lot of the NHL/Toronto media want him to fail to justify their disdain of him
Seems like a bit of an overpay for Marcus Pettersson. Would’ve topped out at a 2nd round pick instead I think. I’d have saved the 1st round pick to either use it, or possibly to pick up Brock Nelson at the trade deadline. Unless Pettersson had a bit more term.
For Vancouver the deals are obviously part of a restructure that wasn’t really their choice and I thought they did pretty well alleviating cap hell and improving top4 d which were both Achilles of this team for years…
There's 2 more Petterssons signed/drafted to an NHL team. I think the Canucks should get them too so we can have them all.
The moment i saw Jim Rutherfors got a first rounder in the JT Miller deal i knew itd be gone almost immediately. I couldnt really judge the JT trade at the time because we didnt know what the 1st was going to get. Now that ive seen the entire trade I gotta say Im pretty happy with it. We were never going to "Win" a JT Miller trade on paper given the situation, but I cant help but feel that this move was good for the club medium to long term. Cant help but feel Jim isnt done yet though. I still think a Brock Boeser move is coming. I dont think the Canucks want to give Brock a long term big dollar contract and Im sure he would net a very nice return at the deadline.
If we trade Boeser I suppose Norris makes the most sense as he’s apparently Hughes’ best friend. We gotta do something to keep Quinn long term- even if Norris isn’t quite worth his salary… Then perhaps we send our 1st with Lekkerimaki to Montreal for Laine with 50% salary retained.
Hoglander - Pettersson - Laine
DeBrusk - Norris - Garland
O’Connor - Chytil - Sherwood
Joshua - Blueger - Suter
Hughes - Myers
Pettersson - Hronek
Soucy - Forbort
Demko
Lankinen
Pens didn't get a 1st for Guentzel bc they got Bunting + 2nd + prospects instead
Past all the meme comments about having so many Pettersson's, I really like this trade. Are we winning the cup this year? Definitely not. Miller is 31 and on the decline. In 2 years, we'd probably be complaining that we have 4 more years with this guy. Now, we get a good top 4 Dman. I will add that Allvin seems to have an issue bringing in great goal scoring. He can find over-performing grinders well but thats about it.
Seems a fair deal
I wanna see the Steve Dangle trade tree if/when this turns into 2026 lottery pick. It probably won't but I guess we'll see
It seems like a good trade for both sides, so someone probably got robbed there.
Is Fernström the perfect middle ground between Farnsworth and Wormström?
I once made a fantasy team with all the Daniels.
Good bet for pens based on what they’re trying to do- two guys who have underperformed and will be motivated; they’re roster players so you don’t get super worse right now so you can continue to maintain the delusion that you’re in the playoff hunt, while also picking up the 1st
This is a barely won day of trades for Vancouver, IF they both flop out of the playoffs and fail to extend Marcus P. Playoffs or extend MP, a win but still....hmm. Playoffs AND extend MP, big win.
Now, speaking as a die hard Canuck fan. Sad to lose Miller, but if you look at long range, Miller's 8M yearly is going to start aging badly, fast. Anyway...we have a decent forward pool as is, ranging up to pretty good when on all cylinders. The backend has been the weakness for years. Now, the acquisition of Marcus P does a couple of things. One, it gives us a sold second pairing. Two, it eases the minute burden on Hughes. Both are really good things.
Damn, that's crazy. It's gotta be the most impactful trade in sports today, right? Right?
Vancouver is collecting all of the Pettersson’s at this point.
Vinny Desharnais fixing the Penguins back end is such a silly thing to say. If you need somebody to hug it out with a guy then he's your man.
News Alert: Anyone playing in the NHL with Petterson as a last name, please relocate to Vancouver.
Any more Petterssons they can collect?
Danton Heinen is more than his points. He should be no more than an average 3rd liner and is overpaid but not by much. His defensive game is really solid and he's a good PK and F1 and that's where his value comes from. Desharnais is not good.
One Pettersson to rule them all.
And now he signed an extension to stay in VAN.