Was it wise to buy the Wyse? Dell Wyse review and upgrades!
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- Bought this thin client on eBay for $12 US dollars. Bought a 120gb SSD and a power cable for a combine total for $50 US dollars for this complete build. Can this little computer gain and hold up in 2020. Is it even worth buying. Watch and find out!
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Thanks man. Saved me the time of opening mine up, etc etc. I bought 6 for 12 bucks incl the adapters. Came here and this vid answered all my questions!!
Glad I can help. Stay tuned, got some more thin client stuff coming out real soon and thanks for watching!
Wow! Where did you get those?!?!?!
Hey wveryone, guy from the future here. Zip tie a fan to a side of the heatsink, cut hole in the case.
Rj45 splice
Great idea. I used an old PNY CS900 SSD 120GB to upgrade in the slot. No need of an adapter. Just fits very close.
thanks for your sharing, i got it about 40 USD from a 2nd market and install a 256 SSD as your way. I install win 10 LTSC and it just work fine. now it's a testing platform on my desk.
Very nice!
I am thinking that this box might be great for installing an x86 version of RetroPie or Lakka for retro gaming. Thanks for the teardown video!
Def is good for that. I am actually working on using the smaller hp thin client and trying to do a custom retro gaming build in something a little more stylish. The HP's are way smaller and you get more options. Thanks for watching the video and stay tuned as i got another thin client tear down coming soon!
Funny little machine
I think the addition of a small fan inside is crucial to this kind of machines
When you were installing the new ssd, i believe that screw mount that you covered with electrical tape is removeable and is actually supposed to go in the socket just to the right of it to properly mount the SSD.
I didn't even think to try taking it out. appreciate the info!
@@DLMtechgarage I'm not certain thats the case, but it seems to be.
@@nathanhamman418 makes sense, wish I had one in stock to test!
@@DLMtechgarage I have one on the way, and a spare ssd, it should be here Friday, I'll update you when I can
@@nathanhamman418 please do, thanks!
Bought this today, for Streamig CCTV. Great Video! By the way was it a M.2 Nvme or Sata above the SSD? Is it for Wifi or can we use a Nvme drive?
not sure
Thanks for the video! I just got one for 20 bucks.
Do you know what type of DVI adapter does it use?
been a long time since I have had this computer, I don't recall... sorry.
Thanks. Very helpful.
You're welcome!
What power brick did you go with? I know these need 19v bricks but I was wondering about amperage and wattage and such. I can't seem to find a specs sheet from Dell on these. Also could these handle 4k video playback?
found it on amazon by looking up the dell wyse and the version of the wyse. i bought the cheapest one i could find and it worked fine. as far as specs, Dell Wyse Zx0-Z90D7 Thin Client AMD G-T56N Dual-core 1.65GHz 8GB Flash Storage 2GB DDR3 SDRAM, as far as 4k playback it won't, it studdered barely ran windows 10. that amd cpu is junk on it. this is better suited for a retro emulation pc
The power adapter for Wyse 5010 is rated at 19V/3.4A
If the Sata Extender Cable works, perhaps a sata power splitter and use the single sata port on the board near the battery?
true, in theory it should work. you def have the power and I would imagine the sata on the board would pick it up as a drive for boot.
A sandisk x400 ssd 2.5 ssd has a small ssd in the 2.5 hdd case. I have two x400 ssd. one is a 128gb other 512gb. both have the same small foot print of that ssd.
THe ones that are wider which allow for a half height PCI Express card are perfect for a PFSense firewall.
yea i like those, but they are not as cheap......
hiya will the high temps the ssd without the protector safe, its too close to the heatsink that can became hot fast isnt it
The ssd never really ran hot as it was a lower end one. The temps were fine and never caused any thermal throttling or performance issues, I also believe changing out the crappy thermal pad/paste they used on the heatsink made a huge difference. Thanks for watching!
Brought one like 10 mins ago … wifi included … I’ll use it as a Pi-hole and Pia server for Netflix
yea that's a cool idea. I use them for retro gaming. They are so cheap and you can flip them easy as a retro build with roms and emulators.
Do you have a name and number on that Crucial drive? I have a 240GB drive I pulled apart and the size is double what yours was and can't use it.
Crucial BX500 120GB
i seen one of these on youtube they put a fan on the side with a fan quard wouldnt that work to cool it off better to put it up to 1 gb memory for the video
when i had this I never had an issue with cooling. it ran pretty cool.
Where did you find the video drivers for this one? I'm having too much trouble with it... Any help would be much appreciated 👍
it was installed when I installed windows. if not then probably would have to look on the gpu model and got to the manufacture.
@@DLMtechgarage figured it out already but thanks for the reply. I was looking for a XP version driver because I wanted to use this thin client as my main XP machine. And no regrets. As a retro XP machine it's great! I'm glad I bought one. 👍
@@xalalalala nice! yea they def make good retro pc's
1:37 how they fit the Benz in the CPU???? just joshing. I like this more obscure hardware. At my local drug stores I noticed the pharmacy has Zotac brand mini PCs I didn’t know they made anything but nvidia GPUs
lol... zotacs are pretty decent but their mini pcs are still expensive even after retirement
This is not meant to be a production PC, it's for small projects like a firewall, a NAS server, pihole or even a small VM Server for utilities
So I bought a Sata Extender Cable, pulled the 16GB eMMC module and replaced it with a 250MB SSD. Works fine.
There's no place to mount it, I will pull off the case and have it free floating.
I didn't even know a Sata Extender cable existed before 2 days ago...
neither did I, very interesting.
Why go from 16GB to 250MB? That's quite a downgrade.
@@MathijsGroothuis 250GB
I just got one of these and set it up with debian, ordered a real supply and some more ddr3 ram. So far so good. Mine has 10600. Might have to check the rtc battery, add new paste and check caps as this was made in 2013... hah!
I tried some ECC memory and it doesn't work, not sure if it requires non-ecc, or if I need a bios flash for my 4gb dimms.. Looks like bios flashing is a pita. I have more ram to test on the way.. Using this as my iot dev machine, as I have the wifi module and can fire up aps on a whim.
@@onkelfabs6408 I put 2x4 PC3-10600 1333 in and it worked, i have not done any testing though, i would not mix speeds since its non ecc
Heya how much ram did you put in? Do you know what's the max ram it can take?
I wanted to max it as much as possible!
@@mousatosun7739 I think this generation is only 8gb
@@tablatronix thank you! :)
Which seller did you buy from? How fast is this processor as compared to Intel, which equivalent Intel version is this, and what generation?
Its's been a long time since this video.
One thing we could really use is the actual CPU make, as not all wyse use the same one.
its beens so long, i believe it was an AMD cpu.
It's AMD G-T56N. You can actually see it on the BIOS screen at 8:498.
What about video streaming performance in this (Netflix, Hulu, etc)? 4K, 1080p?
1080p at best, nothing beyond, but that's if you running windows 7 or 8, this thing runs real bad with 10.
@@DLMtechgarage Thanks!
Can you test x box game pass. Wondering how well it streams x cloud
Wish I could, don't have this computer no more!
I have a few wyse thin clients and they all take laptop memory which one is it that takes fill size dimms ?
it was the Wyse Zx0 Thin Client w/ AMD G-T56N
Do you think I can use this as a ftp server for cctv to run 24/7
as long as your not using windows 10 it would work fine. I would use a linux base os. 10 struggles with this.
Found a tossed out Dell Wyse AIO 5470 to-day. Not sure what to do with it! Think it has a Quad core 1.5Ghz Celeron.
Check my other post I made here. Should be close to the top. If you can't find it, I can copy / paste it here for you. Long & short of it is, either use it as a thin client for running VM's from a virtualization server, or for Remoting into & using your main PC from a different location in your house / on your network. Great for if you wanted to have a discrete PC connected to the TV in your living room, so that you could access your PC from the comfort of that location.
So I'm about 9 minute in and I'm seeing you have your SATA mode on IDE. Change that to AHCI and you won't bottleneck the heck outta your SSD. If you can't or do that later in the video I apologize. Also you MAY have to reinstall WhineDoze if you do that but you won't be limited to IDE speeds :D Thanks for the video
Man I wish I would of caught that. That would of made a bigger difference on the performance for this. Thanks for the info!
@@DLMtechgarage no problem. One of the disadvantages of being ADHD is also an advantage. I can't filter out stuff xD so I see everything yet nothing lol
@@Butrdtostngravy ha ah i know the feeling!!
hi, I have the same thin client but for some reason, even TH-cam very slows and freeze. I tried different OS (win 7-10) makes no difference . I have 60gb SSD and 8GB RAM DDR3
since the newer windows update, this thin client does not have the cpu power to keep up with windows, another thing to check and see would be temps, I remember with this one the temps were a little high, had to do some fresh thermal paste due to this computer thermal throttling. Monitor the temps and and if you see some high temps in the 70's and up then that could be the issue. Outside of that this computer is def showing its age and has been better suited for a linux build. Thanks for watching.
@@DLMtechgarage спасибо!
@@DLMtechgarage I replaced the thermal paste and everything has become much better . I have one small request Do you have such an opportunity to download an image from a thin client
using Wyse USB Firmware Tool and place it somewhere in the cloud and if you want to make a video about it .I need this to restore the BIOS after resetting the settings with a battery. Because Dell stopped supporting these devices getting an image to restore is very difficult . If you do this many people will be very grateful including me . Thanks !
@@DollarJonny I currently don't have a thin client in the garage but I will browse around and see if I can find the image, Is it the same one as in the video?
@@DollarJonny anytime!
Have you tried this with mobile games or MMORPG? Like Tales of Wind? Can it run that?
I did not, Windows 10 really did not work well on it, I used this more for older title games. Works fine for windows 7.
@@DLMtechgarage The reason I was asking was because I was planning a temporary cheap replacement for my laptop. I used to play some mobile games on my laptop along with my phone as members of a party lol. I was hoping it would do that. I know you'd say why not just get another phone right? I need a desktop for work too and since my laptop broke I was hoping to find a really cheap replacement that could do both. The cheapest one I could find looks the same as yours but only got 4gb ram. The other cheap desktop that I could find had no graphics card. That's a bummer then.
I want to buy this for my dummy tv, use it for 1080p and online streams, is it powerfull enough for 1080p?
I would not recommend it, way too weak. def look for like a oem usff like dell, or lenovo. little mroe expensive but has more power and is better for what you want it for.
No, but if you use it to remote into another, higher end PC, (like if you have a gaming / production PC in the other room on the same network), or better yet, a virtualization server with a few VMs on it, then yes, it definitely will do 1080p or even 4k, assuming the PC or server you're remoting into is capable of it.
Has anyone tried upgrading the CPU in this to something faster?
They are soldered on, plus the sockets for the CPU is limited, even if you wanted to desolder & replace the CPU, not to mention you'd run into other bottlenecks. But if you already have a better PC, you don't need to upgrade the thinclient, just put a thinclient OS on it & use it to remote into your main PC. I use mine, connected to my living room TV, for remoting into my virtualization server. I've got multiple VMs on it, & it works amazing for that. No CPU upgrade needed because all the thinclient needs to do is maintain the connection. My server's hardware does all the heavy lifting.
What news about this pc?
Would be good as a retro gaming console possibly 😎
It really does do well for retro gaming.
yo theres some dell wyse 5060s on ebay right now that while they only have 4gb of ram (can be upgraded with another stick) they have a quad core processor in them same 16gb sata space and its 34ish plus shipping and comes with power brick .. i have one i just bought from them and it runs games way better ..i stuck another 4gb of ram in it
thanks. i checked them out, not pick one up. specs seem promising for the price!
Hello, Can I use it as a NVR to record security cameras?
not sure.
I have about 10 of these to play around with . And as I type am installing windows 10 on there. I got some mini fans to put inside which am about to find a Power source for. I will keep you updated.
please do thanks!!
I think win7 or xp are more appropriate for those thin client esprecially for retro gaming.
Amd realease driver from win xp to 8.
@@DLMtechgarage Hello there. i have installed 64bit OEM windows 10 pro with a 500gb HDD and 20gb ram and it workd like a charm...i kept the original fans and they work quiet. so far no issues. (Optiplex small form factor 9020 64 bit based i5-4570 @3.2GHz x 2 with dual display ports with audio. i will upgrade a little more soon.
@@seanbeharry9319 nice !
@@davidereverberi5279 yea most def, great for building a arcade cabinet or something!
How do I get windows off my laptop onto a USB and uploaded onto this machine? Any links?
a budyy of mine has a good guide about getting windows 10 on a usb drive. will post a link
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@@DLMtechgarage much appreciated sir...
Hi
You testing wifi card PCIe change from graphic card in the PCIe adapter?
I'm sorry I'm not understanding the question.
The wifi card is connected via PCIe. Have you tried to connect a graphics card to this PCIe?? Sorry for my bad English 😎
@@grzegorzledwoch4311 it's all good i understand. No I have not tried, but would def been interesting to try!
Ohhh. Thanks You. !!
You're welcome!
Is it possible to upgrade the built in video gpu card?
no
I think you should buy 7+15 pin cable easy to connect to 1 tb hhd
good info. might have to look into that. thanks!
What's this model? I just heard you say yzx0... and got lost! Thanks!
dell wyse zx0 z90d7
I bought one of these a week or so ago, it was 20 euro's, but it came with the power adapter so i jumped ship and got it, and i have to say, these things are pretty powerfull for what they are, no they are not core i7 level of performance, but they are not all that slow, i have the 1.4ghz version, but its still a dual core cpu, and the graphics are compareable to a nvidia gt610, which is, for this thing, not too bad actually, this thing can game, i have windows 8.1 installed (x64 version because of the ram), i have tried xp, 7, 8.1 and 10, and 8.1 is the most responsive on my particular machine, so i use that, and it plays older titles very well, like half life, xll (13), return to castle wolfenstein, quake 1, 2 and 3, doom 3 is playable with low settings, but i have the bfg edition installed, and doom 1 and 2 play superb on my model, i have need for speed underground 1 & 2, colin mcrae rally 2005, halo combat evolved, gta 3 & san andreas. All these games are quite playable on this lil machine, and it consumes as much power as a powerfull LED lightbulb, which is insane!
yea they work pretty well, just hate the windows 10 don't run so well with it but maybe with a version that has less crap running it might.
@@DLMtechgarage I think a stripped down version of win 10 would run great on this, but windows 8.1 pro runs very nicely on this machine, maby you could give that a try?
@@DLMtechgarage i'm no gamer, I only really like 2d (thats another story). I would be interested to see anyone use this with salient OS, a linux optimised for games and multimedia (low latency), has steam and some other gaming thing. Best i've seen for music production
@@firehandszarb that might be perfrect for this. i need to try it.
Can it run 1080p?
Have you tried installing Kodi / LibreElec? If it has a dedicated GPU those dedicated Kodi appliances often do decent as a set top box
nahh never did, needed something more with a litte more power.
@@DLMtechgarage Kodi runs fine on a Raspberry Pi, so the 5060 definitely has enough power. The trick is to use video files that the Radeon video chip can decode with hardware acceleration.
I actually bought WYSE 5010 128GB SSD, 8GB RAM from eBay. Preloaded with Win 10 (probably IoT version?). For $90 with cable and it still has 5 months left with the warranty lol. I wiped it Now I need to figure out why my Ubuntu install ca't finish completely. I use it mainly for IoT and my mesh network controller. Low watt is what I want.. quiet, small factor... and I just ssh. 5010 also has two wifi antena so it's pretty cool.
yea these tiny computer are pretty cool. I keep one in the garage for just looking stuff up when working, I also tend to flip the as retro gaming pc's with roms and emulators and that seem to sell well. plus they are cheap and easy to find! Thanks for watching!
Hey there, can you recommend me a compatible 8gb ram (2 x4gb) for this please
any dd3 12800 kit should work. I was able to use any brand on this. I found a cheap samsung modules for like $20 on ebay. This computer is not picky when it comes to ram.
@@DLMtechgarage www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XUM-4GB-8GB-Memory-RAM-Laptop-PC3-12800-DDR3-1600-204-Non-ECC-Unbuffered-Lot-/224096054999 would something like that be fine? don’t want to buy something then find out it doesn’t work! (DDR3L)
@MrUnboxingmaster Dell Wyse Zx0-Z90D7 Thin Client AMD G-T56N Dual-core 1.65GHz
@MrUnboxingmaster WYSE 7020 which comes in at least 2 variants. Also applies to the 5060 as well which has a higher 2.4 quad-core CPU.
I put 2x4gb of ECC 10600 and it does not work.. so theres that.. also bios is the original probably
Nice review. The only thing is that not all SSDs that you buy come with such a small board on the inside. That means anyone wanting to do this SSD upgrade must be careful which brand SSD drive they purchase. I am wondering if that PICe slot can take a drive or is it an M.2 that is not used. Now many may say because there are two screw holes means its PCIe and not M.2 but if you look at a M.2 2260 or even a 2242 with extended plates, it will fit. I will get one and venture into the Dell Wyse 😂
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good point, def didnt think to mention that.
@@DLMtechgarage after all, what kind of drive is it and where did you get from, i would like to order one and install pfsense
@@NegroRotary I bought a crucial bx500 120gb from amazon and that one seemed to be small enough
@@DLMtechgarage thank you
@@NegroRotary anytime!
i use wireless keyboard and mouse, but i cannot enter to the bios
I find wireless tend to not get picked up right away and can keep you from entering the bios
What antenna into USB did you use?
some cheep one I bought on Amazon. Can't recall it.
SIR, please help me. i need drivers for usb 3.0
I never had to locate the drivers. MAybe check their website or look up the mobo chipset and get it from the manufacture of the chipset.
Not sure why everyone wants to see if an inadequate device will play games.
A better idea would have been to set this Wyse up in a homelab, have the Wyse setup at a desk and configured to act as a terminal for logging into a home server or even a home desktop/laptop that’s spec’d out with all the RAMs and SSDz.
If I wasnt into tech and didn’t know about these Wyse then bought one as a “gaming” anything I’d be pissed.
Can phoenixOS or RemixOS run and can we play games
not familiar with those but any 3rd party software outside of windows 10 will work way better the windows 10. but using 10 for gaming is horrible.
Does it have Wake on Lan and Virtualization capabilities?
Don't remember if it did
@@DLMtechgarage Could you check?
Do you think it is good enough for a stream pc, for like the live chat, paypal and that stuff
I wouldn't recommend this one in particulary due to the low cpu speed. HPt630 thinclient are about then same price and they are quad core, faster cpu, use DDR4 and run better.
@@DLMtechgarage but I have a very small budget for pc only under the $100
How max size sata hdd upgrade? 2tb is working?
yea you can put a 2tb in. It will work fine.
@@DLMtechgarage You can fit those things in that tiny thing?
@@rudycrawford2458 yea has room for a 2.5 ssd once you mod it for the power. Ive seen a bunch do it.
Comfy workshop/media box ideal for streaming from a server.
See, this guy gets it.
hello! does it have a mini pci-e?
been so long since i had one in. I don't remeber
How do I get off the bios screen
it will boot to the bios screen if their is an error like no HDD detected or something else!. After that I just press escape to exit.
Can play videos on 1080p?
it can, but if you do too many things at once with this it bogs down and running windows 10 is not ideal for this!
A wyse 5070 can be upgraded like that ?
yea they can. SSD and more memory and you have yourself a good little computer! Def easy to do! Thanks for watching!
@@DLMtechgarage can i also upgrade dell Wyse 5060 like this too?
@@sumankumarthakur1284 never had one but im sure you can. Open it up and see what hardware your dealing with that way you know what to get.
what is your model number? thank you!
Dell Wyse Zx0-Z90D7 Thin Client AMD G-T56N Dual-core 1.65GHz
With Windows XP it works very well
could you use this as a pfsense ?
I would say yes because pfsense requirements are so minimal.
Damn, I wish I could get one for such a low price :(
Ebay, they still sell pretty cheap!
Got mine for $37USD tax included and shipped
Interesting, where could I get one?
I seen them on eBay alot however check the specs some thin clients are quite old I would recommend just seraching thin client on eBay.
ebay. type in dell wyse under search and they sell dirt cheap. Thanks for watching hope you can subscribe to help the channel!
If You whant i have it. Ando it works perfect
where is the link?
forgot to add it sorry about that. has gone up in price a little since the video. link below.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07R6B5GFW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
i can see a m.2 port
Is't Dell Wyse zx0 or dx0d??
It was the Dell Wyse Zx0 Thin Client w/ AMD G-T56N 1.65GHz 8GB RAM 16 GB HDD
The Dx0d has a slightly lower spec CPU, only a single SODIMM (laptop) RAM slot, and only USB 2.0. They seem to be more stable though, maybe because they run a bit cooler.
19v?
It's been so long I can't recall
You can get a variant with PARALLEL port 😆. Yeah I'm weird 😂😂😂....
Yo you could make this a decent DOS box
def thinking about doing something about that and putting it into something else!
Eso demuestra la estafa de los SSD por otro lado lo bueno le hace
wtf you bought it only for 12$!! I need one!!!!!!!
They were going cheap on ebay before the whole pandemic.
@@DLMtechgarage yes It is no longer cheap.
Not to pick on you but. This doesn't have a hard drive. Hard drive is = Hard Disk. This has a SSD. SSD stand for Solid State Drive. Hard Drive =Mechanical Hard Disk. :)
Ha ha yea your absolutely right. I do that all the time and say it wrong lol
@@DLMtechgarage I actually say hard drive to ssd to regular people because many people heard and know what is hard drive. I have a open hard disk/ hard drive and a broken ssd apart and i show my customer I replace you're hard disk or i say I replace you're hard drive to a solid state drive. this is the difference. Electronically is always faster then mechanical on certain thing. LOL I guess it's okay to use hard drive to ssd for people to understand. :)
It's like many tech use word MOBO many people doesn't know whats MOBO so you use the word Motherboard. Or can be vice versa hahaha.
@@jaimecervantes1306 ha ha yup!
@@jaimecervantes1306 i stilll have brain farts saying them wrong all the time lol..
Pretty stupid video if you specify in neither the subject or the description of your video what exact model you are talking about. There are Wyse systems available which are VERY different from yours.
So you are hearting the comment, but clearly not taking the criticism to heart since you are STILL not showing the specific Wyse Model number in neither the Video title nor description?