This 10-Year-Old Mini PC SURPRISED Me!

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    Timestamps:
    0:00 The story of a 10-year-old thin client
    0:41 The HP t620
    2:16 Manscaped (Sponsor)
    3:14 Opening it up / internal IO
    5:02 Cleaning it up
    6:30 Power button issues
    7:06 SSD issues and installing Windows
    8:26 Cinebench R15
    8:52 Running Linux (Lubuntu)
    9:34 Remote streaming with Parsec
    9:58 Running docker containers
    10:33 Retro emulation with Batocera
    11:03 Testing mPCIe and m.2
    12:35 Using mPCIe NIC with PFSense
    13:22 Is this worth it?
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  • @Chris-rm1pn
    @Chris-rm1pn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +346

    I remember reading an old reddit post about somebody soldering the pci-e connector to that unpopulated slot and getting it working, so if you feel adventurous enough here's a challenge for you

    • @e1woqf
      @e1woqf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@skyde72 +2 😎

    • @rexsceleratorum1632
      @rexsceleratorum1632 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@e1woqf +3

    • @jesmasco
      @jesmasco 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Proprietary connector and raiser.

    • @kostas8969
      @kostas8969 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      You'd better buy a FUJITSU FUTRO S920 instead

    • @tommydadogz
      @tommydadogz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      that was me lol

  • @Purizer
    @Purizer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    You remind me a lot of old youtube where tech enthusiasts would use their imagination to innovate and inspire future techies. Now working in the tech field videos like this are a rare find. It's people like you that ignite the sparks of creativity in people and bring out their inner child. Great editing and video if I'm lucky enough to have a child we will watch videos like this together and build cool projects. Thank you so much.

  • @e1woqf
    @e1woqf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    I've lately bought a thin client and a mini PC, both second hand and former business machines, and found tinkering with them is a lot of fun. They are different from the usual consumer hardware and very well built. There is still plenty of documentation available for about 10 year old machines and both of them have some potential. Well spent money.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is awesome!

  • @VincentThePhotog
    @VincentThePhotog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    The editing == perfection.
    Love the pacing, inclusion of mistakes, etc.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Thanks! That means a lot honestly. This one took a lot of effort haha.
      Also the amateur developer in me appreciates the == lol

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Hardware Haven's video quality never surprises me. Because its always top notch!

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Thanks! I’m tryin’ haha

    • @MarcoGPUtuber
      @MarcoGPUtuber 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@HardwareHaven I think this machine would be a bangin VPN server.

    • @dukeseb
      @dukeseb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea I agree. It’s different from others. I really enjoy the flow of it

  • @jetryder
    @jetryder 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Extra stick of ram would have made this a different video.

  • @KierenAmero
    @KierenAmero 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    My biggest problem, one that shows that the passage of time is often cruel, is I couldn't for the life of me figure out how 2005-2007-era hardware had USB 3.0 slots on the front, because it completely threw me for a loop 😂. Loved the video, regardless of the fact I am essentially an irrelevant old man at this point (even though I'm 30).

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Well, I guess we can be irrelevant old men together lol

    • @funkymcmonkey187
      @funkymcmonkey187 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Get off my lawn... -Irrelevant, 37 lol

    • @dinozaurpickupline4221
      @dinozaurpickupline4221 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine was fake

    • @davefarley4318
      @davefarley4318 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have children your age. I am 60

  • @Hazmatguy117
    @Hazmatguy117 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    I can’t believe you had the patience to install windows 10 on it haha love your stuff. You’re a down to earth tinkerer like me, thanks for sharing your experience and inspiring/teaching others. You never know what kind of impact you really have until someone tells you.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Well you don’t have any idea how much kind words like that mean to me ❤️
      Thanks!

    • @nadca2
      @nadca2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      there's a stripped down version of windows for thin clients. Windows 10 IoT or Windows Embedded Standard 7

    • @dinozaurpickupline4221
      @dinozaurpickupline4221 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Windows 10 1511? How to restore the windows store on that one

    • @dinozaurpickupline4221
      @dinozaurpickupline4221 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nadca2 can that be used on 4gb ram hybrid tab & support full browsing experience

  • @handspiker1994
    @handspiker1994 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    I wonder how well it would work as a Kodi front-end for Emby/Jellyfin/Plex with a stripped down distro like LibreELEC. Kind of closer to the thin-client role the machine was built for.
    Discovered your content during the LTT shutdown, I've really been enjoying the videos!

    • @drakkon_sol
      @drakkon_sol 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well This model seems to have only VGA and DP output, so unless one is hooking up a 3.5mm audio jack to it I'm not sure how it would make a viable kodibox, but I DO like where your head is at, bcz I think along those lines as well.

    • @handspiker1994
      @handspiker1994 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@drakkon_sol DP to HDMI cables will carry audio. I believe up to 5.1 surround.

    • @SuperiorToiletTissue
      @SuperiorToiletTissue 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Kaleb-lf8kfDP does carry audio.

    • @hoeewiee
      @hoeewiee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      LibreElec works fine on my quad core 8 GB T620 model using DP -> DP to HDMI. No framedrops in Kodi using mainly h.264 1080p content (main profile). And yes, there's audio coming from that DP port.

    • @paulhorn24
      @paulhorn24 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      DisplayPort can deliver Audio.

  • @vng
    @vng 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I have a T630 with a slightly newer CPU (AMD GX-420GI) and was using it as my main PC for accessing VMs located around the house. It is amazing what these thin clients can do.

  • @chelonianegghead274
    @chelonianegghead274 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great video, I have several of these things due to RPi's being expensive with the chip shortage and they're really cool. Fun fact actually, if you do some digging you can find mini PCI-E NIC's that can occupy the screwholes where the VGA or serial connector normally screws in.

  • @SHO1989
    @SHO1989 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Excellent video, as always. I can afford newer and more expensive hardware yet I always gravitate back to old hardware to see if it can do the job on the cheap. Hence, Hardware Haven. Always interesting and I enjoy the old hardware finding a second life.

    • @Hazmatguy117
      @Hazmatguy117 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It also keeps the old stuff from ending up in a landfill

  • @skyde72
    @skyde72 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Excellent video, I have the same computer at home, running a few proxmox lxc containers and a kvm vm. Works like a charm, better than I expected for 5 dollars.

  • @tomsvideosofrandomcrap6223
    @tomsvideosofrandomcrap6223 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    There’s another thin client from HP called the T820 Flexible Thin Client, which fun fact, is actually just a rebadged HP EliteDesk 800 G1 USDT

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh interesting… I’ll have to look into that

  • @FlashPan73
    @FlashPan73 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    A bit more expensive, but look at the HP T730 thin client. Comes with a x8 PCIE slot - I have 1 running Kodi using a GT1030, another as a backup pfsense with a 4 port nic and another as a NAS using a 4 port NGFF Sata SSD PCIE x1 card

  • @XxTWMLxX
    @XxTWMLxX 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The sticky outside is likely the rubberized "soft touch" finish that is applied to the plastic shell breaking down after being 10 years old. My elitebook had this and was so sticky I could slap it and pick it up like a glue board.

  • @Fred2-123
    @Fred2-123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    These are great as a file server and a media server (with minidlna). Also useful as a dedicated torrenting box. I have a t620 running minidlna, with a WD Easystore 14GB drive for the media files. Crazy, $200 for the disk and $35 for theT620.

  • @DreamPhreak
    @DreamPhreak 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    15:27 Yes exactly! Tinkerer's paradise indeed. I got mine for $16 and yeah there are better working options out there that might work perfectly right out of the box, but where's the fun in that? I love the fun of soldering and tinkering with stuff, its way more satisfying that way when you fix something yourself. People need to lower their expectations and not expect something this cheap to be powerful.

  • @gabscar1
    @gabscar1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have one of these as my homeserver. It is more than up to the job.

    • @rexsceleratorum1632
      @rexsceleratorum1632 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same here, except mine is the quad core version

  • @eclipsemn8806
    @eclipsemn8806 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have a gotten quite a few of these from an e-waste bin and I love these things. They run windows 10 just fine (as in okay) and I even have one running pi-hole! I have two which I installed wifi cards in and ran the antennas to be outside the case. Great video so far! I'm a quarter of the way through and just wanted to share this quick. I've spent quite some time tinkering with these so it's good to see others do so as well!

    • @markianclark9645
      @markianclark9645 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      eclipsemn....the eWaste supplier i get mine from is everyones eBay...i paid a similar price to Hardware Haven for the t620 i'm using for this TH-cam and surfing at the moment...it's a bit laggy and unresponsive but it runs Win10 if you're patient...i previously bought and tinkered with the t520...but that is hopelessly slow...scrapped it...that thin client case will come in useful though...i have a plan for an ITX motherboard in it...

  • @dtaggartofRTD
    @dtaggartofRTD 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm running a Voron 2.4 off one of these, running minimized ubuntu server off a slightly larger ssd. It's powerful enough to push gcode to 4 printers simultaneously as well, so for my print cluster at least, they're certainly an adequate solution. Way cheaper and more available than a pi too. As long as you don't need GPIO or a front end, it makes a pretty fair pi replacement.
    These used machines tend to be grubby, so it's worth cleaning all the accessible external surfaces.

  • @Kaniggel_
    @Kaniggel_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This little mini pc is just so beautiful

  • @arielaco
    @arielaco 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I bought a t620 back in 2020 for just $39 and it's running flawlessly with Win 10 LTSC 2021 (on the original 16Gb msata) working as file server and video player with a couple of disk enclosures, docks and external hard disk's (about 40Tb total). I'm thinking about switching to OMV but I have a bunch of more capable tinypcs or spare notebooks to do that. It handles very well a hundred or more Microsoft edge tabs and 200+ torrents in background, nice video.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can always use it as a backup if you switch. And thanks!

  • @stephanelem822
    @stephanelem822 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm also fan of second hand boards.Thanks to point that one.
    For boards with only one Ethernet port, you can use the concept lollipop router by creating Vlan interfaces and then to route between these VLan interfaces. Unfortunately, you mandatory need a switch that supports VLAN that will carry the real native Ethernet ports of your lollipop router.
    Switches with VLan support are not so expensive and sometimes really useful, even for small config.

  • @vng
    @vng 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    For better graphics performance, you made need to use the kernel parameter
    radeon.cik_support=0 amdgpu.cik_support=1
    to use the amdgpu driver with GCN2.0 support.

  • @vinsan98
    @vinsan98 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey, I'd love to see you dive into the world of mini PCs powered by the Intel Alder lake N100 processor, especially from brands like Gmktec and Beelink. Your tech reviews are always on point, and it would be awesome to get your take on these compact yet powerful devices. Keep up the great work. 👍

  • @aeonikus1
    @aeonikus1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool video, it sums up my experiences with such boards. Lot's of fun!

  • @cborisa
    @cborisa 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have Fujitsu 920 on AMD 415 - very similar system (closer to T620plus model though due to Pcie slot)
    Until recently it was my main Pfsense router handling two gigabit WANs and a network with 6 VLANs and about 40 clients. And it didn't break any sweat.

  • @azminugraha2826
    @azminugraha2826 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the style and pace of all your videos

  • @hoeewiee
    @hoeewiee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I too had a few of these T620 thin clients (the quad core AMD GX-415GA variants) and they're absolutely fun to tinker with! Bought each for €25 three years ago. I upgraded mine with an 1TB 2.5" SSD for storage, 256GB 2280 M.2 SATA SSD for boot, extra 4GB DDR3L 1600 stick for 8GB total, and an Intel AC 8260 mPCIe WiFi adapter. Just a couple of notes.
    The PCIe slot always seems to be unpopulated on the non plus model. However, some T620 models also don't have a populated mSATA slot. The M.2 and mPCIe where present on all my systems.
    There's dedicated mounting space for 2.5" drives. However, you need to make the mounting brackets yourself. My 2.5" HDD for storage is mounted here, and connected with the mSATA port using an mSATA to SATA board. I also noticed there was an unpopulated fan header right below the HSENSE header (your hole :) ). Front view of the PCB, top to bottom: (HSENSE port) - Fan GND - Fan 5V - (Fan Sense) - (Fan Control). I soldered a screw terminal block (2.54 mm pitch) to feed 5V and ground to my mechanical 2.5" HDD from this unpopulated header. There should be enough juice left with the standard HP 65W power brick. This mod can be done non-janky professional looking if done right.
    Like you said, the M.2 port only works with SATA interface storage devices. Mine came originally with 16 GB of storage in the mSATA port, so the M.2 port was unused. The port does support regular 2280 sized SSD's, but the M.2 standoff to mount the SSD was missing. The screw holes for the M.2 standoff are not your regular M.2 standoff screw size. I had to use a tap to widen the screw hole for a third party M.2 standoff. Can't remember the tap size. The T620 is able to boot from this M.2 slot.
    I stole the exact same 4GB SODIMM DDR3L 1600 memory module from another T620 to upgrade my T620 to 8GBs of RAM. I also had some Kingston 4GB SODIMM DDR3 1200 modules lying around for the now RAMless T620. The manual said the T620 only supports DDR3L low voltage, but my normal Kingston DDR3 modules worked absolutely fine (verified with memtest).
    I ran the above upgrades on an headless installation of Ubuntu 20.04 LTS server with the latest available BIOS (L40 v02.19). With powertop --auto-tune it used 5.7W when idle on a clean installation.
    Later I added an Intel AC 8260 mPCIe WiFi adapter to my T620 using the mPCIe slot, and converted the system from a headless server to a media system running LibreElec / KODI. The system was responsive with no framedrops whatsoever for 1080p content. Regarding the WiFi adapter, the T620 also has dedicated space for wiring 2 WiFi antenna's between the metal cage and outer plastic shell. I did not measure the power consumption when I did the WiFi upgrade and switched from headless to LibreElec.

  • @Musicman-50
    @Musicman-50 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm running Home Assistant home automation software on my t620. On another t620 I'm running as a home media server. Hosting 4tb of music and movies that has the power to stream to all my home devices. It's Powerful AMD quad core CPU typically draws only 9 Watts. So perfect for a system that runs 24/7.

  • @JamesJazzz
    @JamesJazzz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve had the same machine for a whole year now, using it as my go-to Home Assistant server, and it’s been great.

  • @give_me_my_nick_back
    @give_me_my_nick_back 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    HP has made some pretty weird and awesome devices, there was an 12" eliteboot that not only used full power CPUs (I cant even name any other 12" device that did back then) it was also sloted (that would only be a thing in the big and heavy laptops!) allowing you to replace it with i7, it also had SSD slot, HDD bay, DVD bay (yet another unusual feature in such a small and light device!) and for some unexplainable reason there was a PC style SATA header in the middle of the motherboard (like what were you supposed to plug in there?!) making this tiny and light 12" netbook able to run high end i7 with 4 SSD drives at the same time!

  • @JTBivens
    @JTBivens 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    loved this. Perfect for older emulation boxes.

  • @ocsrc
    @ocsrc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The thin clients are really nice for limited space mobile applications.
    For an RV where you want to have a PC in addition to a laptop and you don't have much space and you want to use the existing TV instead of needing another screen in the RV.

  • @mazenkara1801
    @mazenkara1801 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm in love with that hardware fun, thanks for sharing this video.

  • @donkeytits1
    @donkeytits1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have one of these running with a wifi card as a hotspot and an old laptop HDD as a bit of a NAS for years. Being passively cooled I forget its there, even in the lounge room! Probably last power cycled it 9 months ago on a holiday. Solid as

  • @techmaster170
    @techmaster170 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very cool video. I like taking old hardware and putting it to use.

  • @WoodUCreate
    @WoodUCreate 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You sure did a lot with that old TC. We've used them at my company (HPs TCs) for about 15 years or so. In fact, I believe we still have one or two of the originals running to this day. They basically just connect to the network and run a Remote desktop so the user can experience decent speeds. Low Heat, not fans means they don't get dirty in the flour filled plant, can't be hacked or modified, and relatively cheap compared to the workstation PCs we still buy.

  • @Rab1dGAMER
    @Rab1dGAMER 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a HP T610 that I use for a NAS server running drives off USB3 and with the 2 internal SATA connections, and must say it's actually amazing

  • @richardchiodo2200
    @richardchiodo2200 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I almost picked up a few Dell Wyze Thin Clients, but then got a good deal on some z2 mini g3s, hoping to setup proxmox with high availability before I start trying to learn k8s.
    Thanks for the content it's inspiring!

  • @brajanubgan88
    @brajanubgan88 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When it comes to emulation on those old thin client's make sure you disable the borders, they're surprisingly heavy for basically a jpg image

  • @littlewillie65
    @littlewillie65 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the T610 Plus -- having that real PCIe slot is really convenient - although there's no SSD slots on it (unless you want to include the IDE plug for a flash module), it does have SATA connectors for a 2.5 inch drive (sadly, mine didn't have the carrier, so I had to jerry rig something with popsicle sticks). The CPU's Passmark score is the slowest of any of the pcs or laptops currently in my collection (including the old Mac Mini) - but with an R5 240 in the PCIe slot, the overall score puts it ahead of the Core2Duo based machines.

  • @MrZeppelin1007
    @MrZeppelin1007 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I deployed a bunch of these in a mill about 8 years ago. They came with Win7RE, which is probably what windows 10 IoT is now. It worked incredibly well.

    • @nadca2
      @nadca2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same, 8 years too oddly. Set up one of them with Windows Embedded 8/8.1 Industry as a label printing PC to label them all. Performed very well at that function

  • @JaikrishnaAdithya
    @JaikrishnaAdithya 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video!!!
    Your quality of content is increasing significantly btw!!

  • @bradwicks5438
    @bradwicks5438 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be ideal headless for a single task workload. I use an older mini PC for streaming a police scanner, RDPing is great for admining these when used headless.

  • @vortex69pt
    @vortex69pt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have a HP T630, with the next gen of AMD GX processor, quad core, hardware x265 decoding, DDR4, dual channel, 2x m.2 SATA slots, pretty nice actually for, I think, about 50€ I paid for it.
    But when it comes to those cheap, older, easy to find GX thin-clients my favorite is the Fujitsu Futro S920, a bit larger in size but: AMD GX 415-GA (same gen as the T620), 1x mSATA, 1x SATA port and a PCI-E x16 (x4) slot. I like them so much I have 3 of them, at 30 euros each (shipping included) I couldn't pass them up (they usually sell closer to 60€).

  • @spillsndebris
    @spillsndebris 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have one of these just sitting waiting to be tinkered with again. It was my main Linux machine for ages to copy images and format drives. Definitely cool. Would like to have the T620 Plus to tinker on too.
    Edit: Wow! the T620 Plus has really gone up in price over the past 3 or 4 years since I last looked at buying one.

  • @seth8629
    @seth8629 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice coverage man

  • @benjaming7219
    @benjaming7219 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have just picked up a t620 plus to run as a 10gbps 4 port switch and an add in for a wifi module. It's a bargain way to run a high end router which is a dream to me.

  • @adventureoflinkmk2
    @adventureoflinkmk2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a HP t620+ myself. Good stuff

  • @DigitalDiabloUK
    @DigitalDiabloUK 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm thinking with that expandibily, it might make a really good RV router/nas - with a wifi card, LTE card, and storage, with limited power draw.

  • @ksenyxths
    @ksenyxths 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use a T620 for everyday tasks like browsing, reading, and watching videos. I've upgraded it with a 128GB SSD and 12GB of RAM, and the system runs smoothly for basic tasks. In fact, I'm writing this comment on my T620 right now, immediately after watching your video. I even have another one in my basement as part of my home lab. This system is highly recommended for simple tasks or for running lightweight server applications using Docker, MQTT, and even a Dockerized Asterisk PBX! The power consumption is indeed an average of 7 watts!

  • @davidkamaunu7887
    @davidkamaunu7887 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have found that when there is an M2 slot; older&simpler PCs will be SATA SSD compatible. That is a limitation imposed by the chipset. Some vendors will have jumpers that can change from SATA to PCIE modes in the M2 slot. Also simple/older PCs will be M2 SATA SSD by default with AHCI support for system booting.

  • @lastmagmarian9116
    @lastmagmarian9116 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm pretty sure that sandisk drive is slc and so practically immortal.

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would love to see you turning a laptop that is either barely functional as a laptop or useless as a laptop into a server. Thats what i did and its a great way to save money on making a server out of basically e-waste.

  • @crimsonkarma13
    @crimsonkarma13 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    love these videos, they may be pointless but are insightful. sure a decade old PC cant do many things but it still has uses other than ewaste

  • @markaphillips14
    @markaphillips14 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love all the “older” pc projects. It’s actually attainable for the average joe

  • @pedrogomes8839
    @pedrogomes8839 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've one running 24/7 under tumbleweed as my media nas with usb drives, it also runs my monitoring stack with prometheus, loki and a light Elk stack for Sensei plugin, it works flawless, I could migrate to any other devices I have running but it does the job so well and I know it's on my prod section for years without missing a beat so until then let it work, power is low enough

  • @therealgamingfire
    @therealgamingfire 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I cant wait to fully watch this video, hh always makes my day🎉❤

  • @huseyinselcukyaylal4697
    @huseyinselcukyaylal4697 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just bought one today around 20. searched and found your video. Thank you for the ideas and the video. Could not yet figure out whether to use as a remote desktop or retro emulator... Which OS do you advise on this? Thanks.

  • @voltare2amstereo
    @voltare2amstereo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gave a similar geode based unit to my local organisation with monitor and input equipment for staff use to pull up docs.
    Cost next to nothing and is ok to use.
    W10, wifi, and actually capable with office 2010 starter

  • @robbiejameskut5826
    @robbiejameskut5826 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the same one. 8gb ram, OG 16gb ssd. I used Tinywin to make a win 10 install in order to fit it all. Then I used the 2 internal usb for PC Storage and it works like magic. Despite windows taking up the whole of the m.2 card, it actually runs buttery smooth and feels like a joy. I don't know why yours is lagging, I suspect you were using windows drivers for the GPU part of the APU. Once I installed the right Radeon drivers it can even game in dolphin at locked 60fps. I also to do some light wieght coding, steam streaming, home vpn, and recording surveillance, Was a fun tinker project with many great uses!! Best of all ! No Noise!!

  • @kensg
    @kensg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a really interesting and fun video to watch. I love to see people tinker with stuff. Congrats on the channel!😅

  • @Artemis_WR
    @Artemis_WR 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i think you might want to take a look at the dell wyse 3040, it always got me curious, as it has a quad core atom inside. is also pretty cheap, and runs on 5v

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah I’ve been meaning to get one. I’m surprised I haven’t with how many I see being sold locally for stupid cheap

  • @drakkon_sol
    @drakkon_sol 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the quality content I came to enjoy.
    Reminds me of when you started this channel.
    Keep doing what you do, bcz it is engaging and entertaining content.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Believe it or not, this is the stuff that takes the longest time to make lol. Hopefully now I’ll have more time to do videos like these

  • @JeremyLeePotocki
    @JeremyLeePotocki 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    On the AMD G series (as well as those E series too) it's best to use not the current X86 version, but the one built for Intel Atoms & other very old CPUs (the one that has not seen a update in ages). That build is a 32-bit version that'll do well for that processor but it is limited on what you can emulate.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, it actually came with a license for Win7 embedded that I was tempted to try. Only so much I can squeeze into a video though lol

    • @jadenerickson3397
      @jadenerickson3397 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HardwareHavenI ran mine on Win7 for a hot minute, it actually didn't run that bad compared to contemporary hardware. Currently I have a debloated Windows 10 install running GIS imagery processing server (mosaic and processing aerial and Lidar imagery). It ain't the fastest, but definitely gets the job done.

    • @AC3handle
      @AC3handle 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      is there a place to get atom win7 OS?
      I have an aspireOne, and installed win7 on it, and it keeps crashing when viewing some pictures.

  • @arthurrump
    @arthurrump 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love these machines. I got a stack of the quad-core version for €20 each a few years back. One is now running Home Assistant and I tinkered another into a four bay NAS (currently using both USB3.0 and a dual SATA miniPCIe card, but a quad SATA card is on the way). Mine came without the mSATA port, but I might try to solder one on to get a mirrored boot SSD on the NAS. I'd love to get the unpopulated PCIe slot working as well, but my AliExpress fu hasn't been sufficient yet to find a PCIe x4 header for that. At the price I got them, these are just perfect for such tinkering, which I'd not dare to do on any new or purpose-bought hardware.

  • @movax20h
    @movax20h 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The cooling system looks really cool.

  • @norndev
    @norndev 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super modern looking shell for such an old device

  • @NetScalerTrainer
    @NetScalerTrainer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thin clients were meant to work with citrix desktop, where all the processing is done on a server, and the thin client just provides connectivity and screen/kvm

  • @Reza1984_
    @Reza1984_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your contents, keep doing what you're doing

  • @marcogenovesi8570
    @marcogenovesi8570 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    pfsense is using an old (relatively speaking) FreeBSD base so they don't include the newer drivers. It's not that they hate Realtek they also have issues with newer Intel NICs too because they don't have the newer drivers. The realtek NIC in this device is ancient so of course they have the drivers included.
    OpnSense is using a up-to-date FreeBSD base so they get drivers much sooner than pfsense. If something does not work in pfsense it will probably work in opnsense

    • @virusbcn6472
      @virusbcn6472 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pfsense 2.7 use FreeBSD v14 ;-)

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@virusbcn6472 yeah and in a month it will not have the same drivers as Opnsense. That's what happens when you do only one release per year

  • @AgressiveHouse
    @AgressiveHouse 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just bought myself this one, thanks for the idea! In my location it costed me $33 with a PSU which I fried accidentally (touched metal case with my metal table). I had to buy another PSU (original HP 65W) for just $5 + 4Gb RAM for just $3. Now it has 8Gb RAM, and that totals $42 including shipment. I installed the mini-PCI wifi and sticked two antennas outside of the case with a sticky tape. Convenienty, wires can be passed through the case holes. I plan using the OPNSense and make it a TOR wifi access point: connect to it and your traffic is torred :). I guess it's also going to be a nice web-server on the tor network, maybe I'll have to run the bhyve VM for hosting on opnsense..

  • @FaithyJo
    @FaithyJo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That thermal paste application was perfect!

  • @scorchedearth1451
    @scorchedearth1451 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My latest PC was around 25 years old before I dumped it into the trash.
    I bought it used 15 years ago, and ran Linux Mint on it.
    I expect PC's to last at least 10 years.
    Now I have a I5 HP mini PC.
    I'll keep it till it falls apart.

  • @JaapGinder
    @JaapGinder 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have two HP machines, a 260 G2 DM and a 260 G1 DM. Although the names are almost equal, they are not the same, not even close. But the nice thing is, they run Windows 10 flawless (well, after inserting more memory in the G1 (6 Gb). The G2 had already 8 Gb. The nice thing is that I recognize a lot in your video. The machines weren's that dirty when I got them, for instance. But networking etc. Nice was that the G2 already had an SSD, while the G1 had an HD, which I changed to an SSD. It really did speed it up!
    So yeah, I agree on what you tell at the end is that playing around with those machines is just fun. I use them both for things I need to do outside my normal working environment. And that brings fun. Whenever it is testing an old piece of hardware (and get it working) or an old version of some software, to help other people.

  • @theroomofhiddenpredispositions
    @theroomofhiddenpredispositions 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool computer find! I got an old hp workstation and got a really fast computer now after upgrading it to the max specs according to the old manual, just cause it's a few years old don't mean it's slow if you make some effort to upgrade it that's for sure.

  • @lettmons
    @lettmons 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting, I have a 8 year old zotac zbox mini barebone pc with a dual core mobile haswell celeron and it absolutely makes sense in 2023 because it handles windows 10, browsers and standard software just fine although I have no use for it anymore and it sits on my shelf as a spare pc.

  • @federicogori9888
    @federicogori9888 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow. This video is an experience.

  • @marcg1043
    @marcg1043 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice video. Have you ever managed to boot any of these 620, 630 devices from the internal USB ports?

  • @vanloggins
    @vanloggins 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    relatively modern thin clients make fantastic OctoPrint servers, or for running klipper firmware on your 3D Printer.

  • @zarkeh3013
    @zarkeh3013 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Solder in a PCI-e 4x slot and give it a try! I did andit worked though not enough space for an nvme adapter ... and the UEFI firmware would need the nvme driver. still, I too had a lotta fun with a T620!

  • @davidg5898
    @davidg5898 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a 2009 eeePC 1005HA that's also similarly CPU bound (Intel Atom N280, 32-bit). It's kind of funny to see a system that doesn't get any performance boost in Windows by swapping in an SSD. It can run a lightweight Linux distro OK-ish (getting harder and harder to find current 32-bit distros of Linux, even!). For modern usage, it's basically only good as an IOT-type device.

  • @szwiecifon
    @szwiecifon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have one of these, have my whole homebrew smart home system hosted on it.

  • @reinekewf7987
    @reinekewf7987 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think the internal usbA is great. i use this on a game emulater i build for the ROMs becuase there are only be read and 20 to 40Mb/s are fast enough and therefor they will be last long even a cheap usb stick.

  • @cheako91155
    @cheako91155 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds like you're not using accelerated graphics, could you be using the fallback VESA drivers?

  • @miltonb4522
    @miltonb4522 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On something like this, could the processor be upgraded? It looks like this particular one may be difficult, but are there models where the processor is removable?

  • @carloslemus2712
    @carloslemus2712 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With moonlight it should work perfectly, parsec depends a lot on the client's hardware while moonlight depends mostly on the stability of the internet connection. Even my old fat PS4 with Linux can move it on any distribution.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I need to look back into moonlight. It’s been a minute

  • @user-lw4nt5uc3p
    @user-lw4nt5uc3p 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a T620 hiding under my desk. It plays internet radio. But I did put a larger M2 SSD and installed LUBUNTU on it.

  • @1omerfaruk
    @1omerfaruk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm using two t520 in my home. One for home assistant and other for frigate. These systems are not meant for Windows but for my usage it's more than enough. And I bought them for only 40 usd. Considering rpi prices I think it is a bargain.

  • @froid_san
    @froid_san 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the t620 plus, and at 6-8w it's an upgrade from my raspberry pi 4b for hosting a 3 WordPress website, home assistant, Samba and jellyfin.

  • @haydenc2742
    @haydenc2742 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting...I saw a HP T620 PLUS with dual gig ethernet..but it was $140~
    Either way pretty cool old hardware!
    Keep em coming!!!!

  • @gadgelt
    @gadgelt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is not meant to be used as a local workstation. We use this one to access our Citrix virtual machine, so just the right machine to stream monters specs virtual machines.

  • @mt_kegan512
    @mt_kegan512 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. The nostalgic ending was a nice touch

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! This video really was a ton of fun to make

  • @RambozoClown
    @RambozoClown 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a couple of T520 versions I got a year or so ago as an alternative to unobtainable Raspberry Pis. I run Home Assistant, Pi Hole, etc. For $10 a piece and sub 10 watts, what's not to love?

  • @awesomearizona-dino
    @awesomearizona-dino 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These types of pc's were selling for much more $ last year, now they finally reasonable prices.

  • @minigpracing3068
    @minigpracing3068 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 4 core 420 cpu isnt horrible with Debian, I have a T630 that I use for Xen Orchestra with my XCP-NG system. Still not a wonderful user experience when connected locally and user web to look something up. The T730 might be better, but prices are getting up into the range of Amazon miniPC with N100 or N5105 processors.

  • @sysierius
    @sysierius 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's quite interesting because i have the t620 plus, and it works fine with w10 (i have 16gb ram)
    I don't know if you have the dual-core or quad-core version?

  • @logannosleep5
    @logannosleep5 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There for a while you could find the quad core models for about 30 bucks. I personally feel like its well worth it with a lightweight linix OS... Not to mention someone could probably set them up for a older/lighter gaming server.