Thats the wonderful thing about on the job training (OJT) and one thing leads to another. You impressed me as a retired mechanic of diesel and combustion engines from A to Z. You are the people of the future. The expression you used "One Way Or Another," says it all. thank you kindly.
Great job! And even better to see someone active and answering questions, even after a year! I'm Hoping to start my own conversion in the next year. I will be back to ask some myself :)
Hi Dr. Thanks a great deal for taking the time to share this. I never understand why people take the time to mark a Thumbs down with someone sharing their experience. lol. Will be subscribing and looking back at the rest of your video's. Thanks once again. G
the friction plates on the clutch press against the machined surface of the flywheel to transmit the power from the motor to the transmission. If you lose the flywheel then the pressure plates have nothing to "grab" onto. So the clutch, which is used to disengage the pressure plates, won't be doing anything. If you get rid of the flywheel then you will have to have a direct connection to the transmission some how. Many people do this. I just like having the clutch as a safety feature.
Excellent work! All clear explains. I would like to know details about the controller, battery and where to buy the motor, controller and additional modules for my car?
Wow - you are very talented. I would like to hear your comments about the concerning the protean in- wheel motor instead of using an electric motor to connect to a transmission.
That is a great job and we all need to do the same to our cars and trucks. All we need now is a battery pack that is cheap and that will give is at least 150 miles per charge.
After driving the car with and without the clutch I can say that the clutch is not just a luxury but an essential safety feature. Trying to shift with out the clutch in traffic is slow, cumbersome, and dangerous. It also adds a quick disconnect between the motor and the drive train in an emergency.
Yeah Charles i agree,its called a spigot bearing,some are made of bronze and roller bearings,when you get vibration thats the cause,must have support on the end of any input shaft.
Yes, the clutch is working on the HHR. I would keep the clutch for safety and ease of shifting reasons. Depending on what vehicle you are trying to convert there may already be an adaptor plate available. Try Canadian EV for a list of available adaptor plates. If they don't have what you are looking for then there are some suppliers that will make an adaptor plate for your transmission and motor combination.
Yes it has been up and running for several years now. We’ve had to replace the controller and are revising the battery pack right now secondary to one of the batteries feeling completely but otherwise it is doing well.
It is possible, but because of gearing and RPM limitations of the motor, the top speed would be about 20 mph. Or, if you took the gears the other direction for a top speed of 50-60 mph then acceleration from a dead stop would be very slow and require a tremendous amp load. The transmission gives you leverage at a variety of speeds and motor RPMs.
about 45 mph or you could lock the car in 4th gear and take it up to 70+ mph, however the tradeoff is that your acceleration from 0 to 70 would be glacial. I usually start off in third gear and shift to 4th at about 45mph. The acceleration from zero is still very brisk up to 45mph. While I'm sure that you could play around with the gear ratios and find one that would take you from 0 to 70 with adequate acceleration, the transmission just makes this easier and gives a wider range of usefulness.
The transmission allows the car to move at highway speeds with out over revving the motor. Electric motors generate the greatest amount of torque at lower rpms. So you want to keep the motor spinning slower to keep the power output up as high as possible. 1st gear which is the same as direct drive will take the car up to about 15 mph. Without the transmission that would be as fast as the car could go. You could lock the car in 3rd gear and have pretty good acceleration and get up to
Since there is no point to the flywheel other than it being a bridge to the transmission, I would think a lightweight flywheel would improve acceleration a bit. just a thought. sometimes you can grab a used one for ~70 bux
I'm using a 9 inch Advance DC motor (from the AMD company), the controller is a 1K Zilla with the "hairball". This conversion will have 44, 130 amp hour LiFePo batteries
some people have done that, but I don't think that it would make a lot of difference. I might remove the crank ring on the flywheel on my next project but I don't think I will spend the time, money and effort to drill out the flywheel and then try to balance it.
No, I didn't lube the input spline or clutch disc splines. I generally don't have problems with disassembly. I'll keep my fingers crossed that my luck holds out this time too.
This is very nice invention indeed. but can you give me idea in battery charging is it enough to charge by itself using only alternator and driving the airrcon?
I challenge you to find a hub motor that is large enough and has a central bearing that is strong enough to handle the weight of a car and the forces applied to the front wheels when turning right or left under acceleration. Many companies have put out press released claiming to have a motor coming soon, but so far none are available for purchase. I have seen a 8 wheeled hub driven vehicle from japan that was custom made but the motors are not available. If you find one let me know.
The flush mounted bolts dont look to strong after you flush mounted them seems to me it weakened the plate where the bolts go in but i dont know if that really matters or not just thought it could affect the holding power or the mounting power of the plate to the motor or transmission.
HHR are the heaviest cars a cruiser is half that weight ther are aluminum flywheels somewhere and you have to have a pilot bearing even if its just cast out of lead/aluminum or turned on a big drill after being rough sized byu a router or grinder with a hole drilled close to size ect or a machinist to custom turn on
If I were racing or trying to achieve the ultimate in miles per charge then I would consider shaving the flywheel. The pound or two that I might save are not worth the time and expense in my opinion.
Nice and exact build. What I don't get is why every conversion I see is using the same type small diameter(originally for high speed) motors and always with the original transmission. If you had a larger diameter rotor you wouldn't need half the amps to get the same torque, and the transmission could ideally be thrown out(or at least modified). In stock electric cars only the rotor are usually as big as these motors I see everyone is putting into their conversions, just because they're the easiest to find or some "expert" are pushing them as the best option. Please somebody , think for yourself, don't just do what everybody else do.
It depends what you mean by economical. To buy or to use. So far because they are the norm, the kind you use tend to be cheaper, but they don't give you the best economy, unless you gear them down at low (ground)speeds. An electric motor with enough torque shouldn't need the gearbox at all. Some solve this problem by putting one motor on each wheel, that in terms of economic driving gives the best power balance. There are two types you can buy now, one that has a small diameter "ordinary" motor that is geared down, and one that is a purpose built low speed motor that exploits the whole space available inside the rim. Theres no doubt as to witch one has the better economy, although they cost more beacause they couldn't today be taken off the shelf. But the more popular/mass produced they gey get, the more economical they will be to buy. In the meantime I guess you could make a very efficient motor(with very much torque from low amps) from putting a couple(or 3 or 4) evt. modified/rewired washing machine(harddrive type) motors after eachother on the same shaft, to make it both economical and economical, if you see what I mean. There's at least one company I've seen making this kind of motor(with stackable segments to fit your need for hp) especially for vehicles, but they are as far as I know only economical in one sence of the word. So I get your drift, I don't mean to criticize you negatively, only give you some thoughts to get rid of the power loss in the transmission.
Got any pics or video of what you've done? Only things I use are things I've bought, didn't understand that comment. Economical means in same price range, if something cost 2 or 3 times as much then not economical for a DIY to use. If you want ultra high tech, get a Leaf.
First of all I think you're doing a great job. I get your point completely. If I had the money I'd convert my boat right away. But with 1000hp for a marine environment, it's an expensive project, so I feel the restrictions you mention. I haven't built an electric car yet, and I don't think I will upload anything on youtube if I do, youre way ahead of me there, and that's exactly why I want to maybe give you some ideas, because youre already doing it. Economical driving means using less watts. But that is also directly linked with how many batteries you have to go through over the years. Iow. if you spend more on a motor, you could save on your battery banks. The ideas from a Leaf or a Formula E for that matter, are free, and all I'm saying is that you could find some of the components you'll need in other (cheaper) places.
Hi, I wolud like to know the specifications of the electric motor you are using as well as the controler , to see if I can get something similar or close, and how many batteries are you planning to use and what kind. Thanks!
Si si....totalmente de acuerdo.......Pero me referìa a reducir el volante en peso". Llevar la inercia de una caja de engranajes es mucho menor que la del cigueñal y compresiòn de pistones... Creerìa que para mas autonomia...menor peso como otras muchas partes del vehiculo a reformar.
Yow ..got a noob question .... I want to use automatic car transmition ... Any tips and words or better option for it? Plzzz ... Greed to try this 😀😀 .. Sorry for bad english by the way
Thats the wonderful thing about on the job training (OJT) and one thing leads to another.
You impressed me as a retired mechanic of diesel and combustion engines from A to Z.
You are the people of the future. The expression you used "One Way Or Another," says it all. thank you kindly.
Great job! And even better to see someone active and answering questions, even after a year!
I'm Hoping to start my own conversion in the next year. I will be back to ask some myself :)
Hi Dr. Thanks a great deal for taking the time to share this. I never understand why people take the time to mark a Thumbs down with someone sharing their experience. lol. Will be subscribing and looking back at the rest of your video's. Thanks once again. G
the friction plates on the clutch press against the machined surface of the flywheel to transmit the power from the motor to the transmission. If you lose the flywheel then the pressure plates have nothing to "grab" onto. So the clutch, which is used to disengage the pressure plates, won't be doing anything. If you get rid of the flywheel then you will have to have a direct connection to the transmission some how. Many people do this. I just like having the clutch as a safety feature.
عمل راائع فعلان لقد احببت هذا الفيديو الله ما باريك ...عنواني الفسبوك هوا AHMED SRIFI
Excellent work by you. Kudos. Really inspired me.
greetings from Mexico,I liked your video
Excellent work! All clear explains. I would like to know details about the controller, battery and where to buy the motor, controller and additional modules for my car?
Wow - you are very talented. I would like to hear your comments about the concerning the protean in- wheel motor instead of using an electric motor to connect to a transmission.
Thank you, a good work!!! Good luck in your next projects!!
That is a great job and we all need to do the same to our cars and trucks. All we need now is a battery pack that is cheap and that will give is at least 150 miles per charge.
+robviolin1 You'd need a helluva lot of batteries to go 150 miles. All your useful space would be taken up by batteries. Even lithium batteries
+Curby Weaver thanks. The tesla gets 300 miles per charge.
robviolin1 Yeah, and it has regenerative braking. Installing a simple electric motor doesn't give you regenerative braking.
+Curby Weaver thanks for the information, very helpful.
After driving the car with and without the clutch I can say that the clutch is not just a luxury but an essential safety feature. Trying to shift with out the clutch in traffic is slow, cumbersome, and dangerous. It also adds a quick disconnect between the motor and the drive train in an emergency.
Yeah Charles i agree,its called a spigot bearing,some are made of bronze and roller bearings,when you get vibration thats the cause,must have support on the end of any input shaft.
Pilot bearing
Jeff Baker hey Jeff could I ask for your advice?
I don't understand so your the guy to build the other guys idea? Makes sense. So how do it's go?
Jeff Baker hey I have a Chevy Chrysler 300 v6 how can I change gas to electric and how much cost
Very nice video, thanks for posting
Yes, the clutch is working on the HHR. I would keep the clutch for safety and ease of shifting reasons. Depending on what vehicle you are trying to convert there may already be an adaptor plate available. Try Canadian EV for a list of available adaptor plates. If they don't have what you are looking for then there are some suppliers that will make an adaptor plate for your transmission and motor combination.
Yes it has been up and running for several years now. We’ve had to replace the controller and are revising the battery pack right now secondary to one of the batteries feeling completely but otherwise it is doing well.
It is possible, but because of gearing and RPM limitations of the motor, the top speed would be about 20 mph. Or, if you took the gears the other direction for a top speed of 50-60 mph then acceleration from a dead stop would be very slow and require a tremendous amp load. The transmission gives you leverage at a variety of speeds and motor RPMs.
I HOPE THAT YOU LUBE THE INPUT SHAFT OF THE TRANSMISSION AND CLUTCH DISK SPLINES JUST A TIP SO IT DOESN'T CAUSE YOU ANY TROUBLE DOWN THE ROAD.
about 45 mph or you could lock the car in 4th gear and take it up to 70+ mph, however the tradeoff is that your acceleration from 0 to 70 would be glacial. I usually start off in third gear and shift to 4th at about 45mph. The acceleration from zero is still very brisk up to 45mph. While I'm sure that you could play around with the gear ratios and find one that would take you from 0 to 70 with adequate acceleration, the transmission just makes this easier and gives a wider range of usefulness.
Awesome to watch. Can this really be done using 2 electric engines?
PARABÉNS PELO VIDEO E PELO TRABALHO...SUPER...
Excelent. Very good the explains!
The transmission allows the car to move at highway speeds with out over revving the motor. Electric motors generate the greatest amount of torque at lower rpms. So you want to keep the motor spinning slower to keep the power output up as high as possible. 1st gear which is the same as direct drive will take the car up to about 15 mph. Without the transmission that would be as fast as the car could go. You could lock the car in 3rd gear and have pretty good acceleration and get up to
Since there is no point to the flywheel other than it being a bridge to the transmission, I would think a lightweight flywheel would improve acceleration a bit. just a thought. sometimes you can grab a used one for ~70 bux
nice car congratulation.. God Job !!
ther are copper spacers shim to sand witch between the flywheel and cranks ther like 1/16 and inch thick and patterned in chevy bolt pattern
Cool build👍
There are a variety of ways to do this. If you loose the fly wheel and connect directly to the shaft you loose the clutch. I like to have the clutch.
Precio del motor
I love the idea of an electric HHR, I have a Volt
I'm using a 9 inch Advance DC motor (from the AMD company), the controller is a 1K Zilla with the "hairball". This conversion will have 44, 130 amp hour LiFePo batteries
Wouldn't it help if you got a lighter flywheel or machined some excess weight out of it?
You should have no trouble finding an adaptor plate for a VW beetle conversion. If I can be of any further assistance let me know.
what kind of motor, how many battery did you use?
and how much did you spend for that?
some people have done that, but I don't think that it would make a lot of difference. I might remove the crank ring on the flywheel on my next project but I don't think I will spend the time, money and effort to drill out the flywheel and then try to balance it.
No, I didn't lube the input spline or clutch disc splines. I generally don't have problems with disassembly. I'll keep my fingers crossed that my luck holds out this time too.
That's called direct drive right? How do you have reverse then? Are there parts for that if you remove the transmission?
Ok thanks I will look into that. I am trying to do it on an 1960 or 70s VW beetle
i was wondering with such a big motor why not drive the wheels directly without the need of that flywheel and transmission is it possible??
Great idea, what's the horse power on the motor?
good job looks like a nice cleen job. i built a eletcric a.t.v i want to do a car next
Thanks, good luck on your conversion. If I can be of any assistance please let me know.
Existe um meio de colocar um alternador para manter carregado as baterias....usando um motor de eletro imãs...
I saw your videos, good job. Now on to a car...
This is very nice invention indeed. but can you give me idea in battery charging is it enough to charge by itself using only alternator and driving the airrcon?
Scorpion Heart Omg Fr??
Que cuesta algo así ? Y donde lo puedo conseguir !
I dont get it what do you mean loose the clutch? How would that loosen the clutch?
I challenge you to find a hub motor that is large enough and has a central bearing that is strong enough to handle the weight of a car and the forces applied to the front wheels when turning right or left under acceleration. Many companies have put out press released claiming to have a motor coming soon, but so far none are available for purchase. I have seen a 8 wheeled hub driven vehicle from japan that was custom made but the motors are not available. If you find one let me know.
Very nice! So, the clutch works on this conversion right?
I've been thinking figure out how to keep the clutch in an ev conversion. any tips?
thanks!
The flush mounted bolts dont look to strong after you flush mounted them seems to me it weakened the plate where the bolts go in but i dont know if that really matters or not just thought it could affect the holding power or the mounting power of the plate to the motor or transmission.
Love this idea,wondering if I couldn't use an automatic transmission.
do you have dvd's or plans or helpbooks?
Is there some clatter or is that sound normal?
This is not a big deal, but I've seen several vids showing the bolt up of the flywheel and I wonder why they all keep the ring gear.
just abuses mind you, but I think it's because they don't want to bother removing it. It is already balanced as it sits. So why mess with it.
hey buddy did you ever get the hhr running with that electric motor id love to see how it came out ????
Is this an electric motor conversion?
What type of electric motor is ? Brushless or a normal AC motor
Hi! What is eletric motor used and how many hp? Thanks!
Did he finish it?
Where do you get these motors and speed controllers and the capacitors to for storage to run everything
Hello, how much will it cost to rework the Chevrolet Caprice of 1992 on electric traction?
Hi James,
Do you live near Hickory Flat? Just curious. Lliked your video.
What adapter are you using for transmission?
Hello my friend. I'm from Brazil where can I buy this motor kit? how many batteries do you need to make her walk about 100km
HHR are the heaviest cars a cruiser is half that weight ther are aluminum flywheels somewhere and you have to have a pilot bearing even if its just cast out of lead/aluminum or turned on a big drill after being rough sized byu a router or grinder with a hole drilled close to size ect or a machinist to custom turn on
If I were racing or trying to achieve the ultimate in miles per charge then I would consider shaving the flywheel. The pound or two that I might save are not worth the time and expense in my opinion.
Would it be a good idea to lighten the flywheel?
ugylatszik ugyan az ? miert bizod a hp-t + tomeg egy korulbelul 26 mm tengelyre
Olá, que motor eletrico você usou? estou com um projeto de conversão de um ford ka modelo 2005
que tipo de motor es y cuantos caballos de fuerza tiene y donde lo puedo conseguir
Hi! What is motor eletric used? Thanks!
How much to convert my HHR if I send it to you?
Nice and exact build. What I don't get is why every conversion I see is using the same type small diameter(originally for high speed) motors and always with the original transmission. If you had a larger diameter rotor you wouldn't need half the amps to get the same torque, and the transmission could ideally be thrown out(or at least modified). In stock electric cars only the rotor are usually as big as these motors I see everyone is putting into their conversions, just because they're the easiest to find or some "expert" are pushing them as the best option. Please somebody , think for yourself, don't just do what everybody else do.
Happy Fox Got any economical motors in mind, easy to criticize, got a solution.
It depends what you mean by economical. To buy or to use. So far because they are the norm, the kind you use tend to be cheaper, but they don't give you the best economy, unless you gear them down at low (ground)speeds. An electric motor with enough torque shouldn't need the gearbox at all. Some solve this problem by putting one motor on each wheel, that in terms of economic driving gives the best power balance. There are two types you can buy now, one that has a small diameter "ordinary" motor that is geared down, and one that is a purpose built low speed motor that exploits the whole space available inside the rim. Theres no doubt as to witch one has the better economy, although they cost more beacause they couldn't today be taken off the shelf. But the more popular/mass produced they gey get, the more economical they will be to buy. In the meantime I guess you could make a very efficient motor(with very much torque from low amps) from putting a couple(or 3 or 4) evt. modified/rewired washing machine(harddrive type) motors after eachother on the same shaft, to make it both economical and economical, if you see what I mean. There's at least one company I've seen making this kind of motor(with stackable segments to fit your need for hp) especially for vehicles, but they are as far as I know only economical in one sence of the word. So I get your drift, I don't mean to criticize you negatively, only give you some thoughts to get rid of the power loss in the transmission.
Got any pics or video of what you've done? Only things I use are things I've bought, didn't understand that comment. Economical means in same price range, if something cost 2 or 3 times as much then not economical for a DIY to use. If you want ultra high tech, get a Leaf.
First of all I think you're doing a great job. I get your point completely. If I had the money I'd convert my boat right away. But with 1000hp for a marine environment, it's an expensive project, so I feel the restrictions you mention. I haven't built an electric car yet, and I don't think I will upload anything on youtube if I do, youre way ahead of me there, and that's exactly why I want to maybe give you some ideas, because youre already doing it. Economical driving means using less watts. But that is also directly linked with how many batteries you have to go through over the years. Iow. if you spend more on a motor, you could save on your battery banks. The ideas from a Leaf or a Formula E for that matter, are free, and all I'm saying is that you could find some of the components you'll need in other (cheaper) places.
interesting. you sound like someone that thinks out of the box 👍. got a question for you. can a 12v dc motor do the trick?
where can I buy this motor with mounting ready to install?
Where can i find that kit
Hi, I wolud like to know the specifications of the electric motor you are using as well as the controler , to see if I can get something similar or close, and how many batteries are you planning to use and what kind. Thanks!
where can I get that motor to buy.
there are lots of dvd's to buy on the internet about how to convert...they all cost 49.90 Dollars...what you think about them ...are they real?
hello, I'm from Brazil, where can I find this motor?
sorta like strapping a turbo to a 4 banger and boosting it to 20+psi while a v8 will do the same exact thing with more torque and more relibility!
Exelente!!!!👍
i was just thinking....would a 12 v engine work instead? i think getting rid of omformers and all that extra stuff......
Para què el volante y corona de arranque si no hace falta?
el volante hace la función de disco de inercia, si no lo trajera el motor haría unos cambios de velocidad muy bruscos
Si si....totalmente de acuerdo.......Pero me referìa a reducir el volante en peso". Llevar la inercia de una caja de engranajes es mucho menor que la del cigueñal y compresiòn de pistones... Creerìa que para mas autonomia...menor peso como otras muchas partes del vehiculo a reformar.
How much will this cost, including forklift batteries? I want to convert my Valiant electric.
KTA services. They have a web site / online store .
Dr.etric parabéns por seu trabalho gostaria que o senhor me ajuda se com meu Fusca 82 vc tem plantas do projeto,obrigada
Yow ..got a noob question .... I want to use automatic car transmition ... Any tips and words or better option for it? Plzzz ... Greed to try this 😀😀 ..
Sorry for bad english by the way
yes, I did finish it.
Which electric motor recommends me for a renol 1985
yes you are correct
you could save over 10 pounds in most cases on the flywheel would have a different feel to it. Much more response from the motor.
9 inch Advance DC motor, 144 volts
todos esto esta muy bien
pero lo que se necesita es una batería del estilo que usaba " terminator " pequenia y duradera
Wow all you inventor
From where i can buy this motor
How much HP
Can i have it from amazon??!
a ted otazka kde si vzal motor
hi what is the specs on the motor ?, thank you
sir, where can i buy this kind of motor? im from philippines.
what is hp of motor?
smart work
hi, i need to convert my car , i need to buy all becessary parts and where can we obtein the certification. ;)