Top Notch coverage of the 2018 Human Powered Vehicle Championships from the LBR, Gary. It puts one in the "Seat" so to say. Being there on Sunday made one of the Highlights of my U.K. visit, to see so many different Bents. Would love to have ridden, but that would not have been possible. Keep up the good work Gary, as without this and others like this, Recumbents will not be made known to Non-Bents. I did manage to chat to both John and Mike.
Great thanks to you Gary and Your Laidback-Team. As a visitor I loved to see all the things I did not catch. It was a great interview with Mike Burrows. However there was a meeting of chairmen of some HPV Clubs in Europe, which will be continued at the next SPEZI, too. Thanks to the BHPC!
Hi Andreas-I'm so glad you enjoyed the video and the WHPVC. I'm not sure what you meant by telling me about this meeting. Does this have to do with planning future World Championships?
@@GarySolomon Sorry, no. It's subject was to start a new way of collaboration between the european HPV-clubs. This developement is very open and it is mostly a more intense way of communication between. Hope You will get more information at the next SPEZI.
@@michellegobat9809 you are referring to my pal John Williams! Yes, indeed, John shows up a few times during the racing video. I also featured him in an interview on this video. Thanks for watching!
Now that all the work is done I must say I had a great time visiting and creating this video reflecting your wonderful event. Thanks for inviting me and for all your help 😁
WOW! You guys have really done yourselves proud with this coverage. Very slick, and the drone shots really complement the action, giving a sense of the track that is not often seen. All to frequently I watch a video on U-tube and there is an irritating soundtrack that interferes with what would otherwise be very good. This time I want to congratulate whoever selected the music, it went well with the action, and I found myself tapping my foot to the whole of the first half! Can you tell me what it is, and where it might be found? An informative interview with Mike Burrows :-) He made some good points. Thank you for coming over and providing a 'mouthpiece' for HPVs, I think it will make a difference for more people to see the action as perhaps it has not been covered before, and with 39 comments before mine, I think I am not alone in thinking that!
Thank you, Con! I am humbled by your effusive praise. My goal with this video was to try to convey the action, color and excitement of HPV racing at its democratic best. I spent way too much time selecting and timing music to accompany the racing scenes but your kind words give me hope that this time was not wasted. The songs come from Epidemic Sound (www.epidemicsound.com/) which I find to have the best and most affordable offerings for this purpose. Lars Komm handled the drone and was responsible for producing those fantastic views from above. Thanks for watching and for helping me to feel that our work is being appreciated.
Hi Jonathan! Most of the music I use comes from Epidemic Sound and this one is as well. Here is the info: _Racing For Life (Instrumental Version)_ - Johan Glössner.
Hello all, looking for help. I am a former cycling now ultra runner looking into trikes. I have attached a video. Question is if you took the guys in that video and replaced the bikes with trikes and took out the cornering would those guys be able to do those speeds or anything close to them? I use the video only as an example of the level of rider and the flat land. The type of trike would be something like the ICE VTX. @ Thank you so much for your time and help Be well
Hey Sean-There were actually ICE VTXs racing in this video😊 If your question was "can they be as fast as some of the bikes racing there?" then the answer is yes. They are not as fast as the fastest bikes but faster than some of them. Lots of variables here especially the strength of the racer.
@@GarySolomon Thank you for taking the time. would you be able willing to give thoughts on: you have a pro 1,2 rider and in front of him is a Cervelo S5 and an ICE VTX. The road is flat and straight for 30 miles. Who is going to come across the line first and by what kind of gap?
@@GarySolomon what I’m trying to get an answer to is if I rode 30 miles in flat land on an ICE VTX and my “twin” was on a Cervelo S5 who would finish first and by how large a margin.
All other things being equal the faster bike would be the lighter bike and one with only two wheels rolling resistance not three wheels. Here is a thread on Bentrider with some insight on this: www.bentrideronline.com/messageboard/showthread.php?t=149727
@@argentosebastian Different angle of power stroke apply. This is similar to lowering 'bottom' bracket to couple cmr's. But in cost of learning curve and slight mechanical issues.
I’ve been paying attention to 2 particular details that would involve HPVs: the aerodynamic design of Ferrari and Ford Le Mans cars from the 60s and ideas from velomobile design. Namely, having massive cogs for the crankset and cassette might prove to make velomobiles faster since having a 64 tooth nonetheless a 96 tooth would mathematically allow for a cyclist with cogs as small as an 8 tooth to go faster than 100 mph with a 90 cadence. It’s a matter though of getting those 2 theoretical cogs to work with a massive number of rear cassette gears without having serious derailleur issues. Either that or meticulously craft an entire Internal Planetary hub fitted to the rear axle, with a possible connection to an electric/gas motor engine. Could imagine placing engines as big as half a liter behind a driver and making it capable of going highway speeds with 250,300 miles to the gallon. By the way, does having smaller wheels at the front actually make an HPV faster? Would be interesting to hear.
Here is the link to the results page for the event that I posted in the links section of the video description: wc2018.bhpc.org.uk/results/. Generally speaking 35-45 mph depending on the event. They were moving along briskly😉
If you are asking about the results of these races they are linked in the links section in the video description. Here it is again: wc2018.bhpc.org.uk/results/
dang you guys are so close to making a real production here...pre-race report, exciting reporting, time-trials, but instead its music over all the action, this sport will never see the glory it deserves if you guys keep making these amatuer vids.
@@GarySolomon not sure if your being silly here, you had none of those things in this vid but you need them, just go look at a race-car event, they talk about the drivers, give their stats and the performance of the machine, go look at GCN's recumbent vids, very exciting showing performance and how fast they can go. Maybe you guys dont know how to do that but its what the sport needs badly.
bent racing could be glorious on video, its cutting edge, fast and interesting...some great shots here and I know its hard work but mix it with concentration on the riders and lap times could be great @@GarySolomon
Not that I know of. There are various Facebook groups and Doug Davis at Bicycle Evolution in Dallas has the only velomobile dealership in the USA and is a resource.
Hi Chris and thanks for watching. I posted the link for all the results in the description below the video 😊 Here it is again: wc2018.bhpc.org.uk/results/
Hi Tony and thanks for watching. I would never go through all that trouble without listing speeds and results. That's why I put the link to this all right in the description below the video😊
More people would buy one if they didn't cost as much as a used car. 8-10,000€ for a bike with fairing?? As much as I want one (I ride an Orbea), there's no way any normal person could afford it.
Hey Simon. Thanks for watching and your thoughts on the video. My point was to give my viewers a taste of the atmosphere, bikes and people that came together at this special venue for a unique recumbent taking event. If you were doing it what sort of structure would you use to accomplish this?
@@GarySolomon I'm sorry, this is a frustration I have with everybody who films bike racing. You almost never see full-speed action - everybody thinks slo-mo and messing with the speed makes things more 'arty'. But you can't analyse the performance of different styles of bikes if you don't know whether they're slowed down 20% or 50% or 75%... And this is particularly the case with unconventional bikes. I know how fast a good athlete on a standard time trial bike can go. Are the HPVs going half the speed, or quarter the speed, or... Could they actually be faster? From your video, I've no idea. They never seem to get above walking pace.
That was great.
I have seen Recumbent trikes and quads, but had not see recumbent bikes before.
So many different varieties and everyone having fun.
Thanks for watching, Glenn!
Top Notch coverage of the 2018 Human Powered Vehicle Championships from the LBR, Gary. It puts one in the "Seat" so to say.
Being there on Sunday made one of the Highlights of my U.K. visit, to see so many different Bents. Would love to have ridden, but that would not have been possible.
Keep up the good work Gary, as without this and others like this, Recumbents will not be made known to Non-Bents. I did manage to chat to both John and Mike.
Thank you, Derek! I really enjoyed chatting with you at the event.
Great thanks to you Gary and Your Laidback-Team. As a visitor I loved to see all the things I did not catch. It was a great interview with Mike Burrows. However there was a meeting of chairmen of some HPV Clubs in Europe, which will be continued at the next SPEZI, too. Thanks to the BHPC!
Hi Andreas-I'm so glad you enjoyed the video and the WHPVC. I'm not sure what you meant by telling me about this meeting. Does this have to do with planning future World Championships?
@@GarySolomon Sorry, no. It's subject was to start a new way of collaboration between the european HPV-clubs. This developement is very open and it is mostly a more intense way of communication between. Hope You will get more information at the next SPEZI.
Well done Gary, that was in one word "Awesome" absolutely loved it..
Thank you, John!
I thought I saw a J.W. in this video or am I mistaken?
J. W.?
Gary Solomon , I believe those are the first and middle initials for the TH-camr known as 'velo-ads'. If I am incorrect, I most humbly apologize.
@@michellegobat9809 you are referring to my pal John Williams! Yes, indeed, John shows up a few times during the racing video. I also featured him in an interview on this video. Thanks for watching!
I love this. For all practical purposes we just don’t these types of bikes here south Texas. I enjoyed!
Great footage Gary , the editing and music choice made it a pleasure to watch and even watch again ..
Thanks!
Thank you Gary ! First class coverage of the event. I can imagine the amount of work that had gone into producing that - Well done
I appreciate those kind words, Ian. The work is all worth it when viewers enjoy the videos.
Excellent reportage Gary! Great shots, a lot of work to mix together so many images...I watched everything with a lot of fun...thanks!
You make me want to continue doing this, Daniele! Thanks for watching. I'm very glad you enjoyed it 😊
what a great effect ! 👍 Congratulations 🚴🚴🚴🚴🚴💪
Great work folks and great to meet you all in person, well done.
Wow, I would love to watch this event?
Great work Gary! Nice to see Lars and John at the track. Thanks for the great coverage.
Thank you! Lars was Independence and it was great to see John in person 😊
nice, thanks for having been there!
Great work Gary! Nice editing and drone flyovers.
Thanks!
Gary always doing the best job! Great photography/videography!
Thank you, Kerry! I'm really glad you enjoyed watching this.
Fantastic!! Thanks for coming!!
Now that all the work is done I must say I had a great time visiting and creating this video reflecting your wonderful event. Thanks for inviting me and for all your help 😁
Excellent coverage and great editing !
Thanks, Paul!
35.07 somehow I looked worse than I felt. Which I suppose is the better way around. Thanks for the great video Gary.
Thanks, Patrick! That was a tough few minutes for you but have you ever looked better than in that opening sequence at 00:00:26?
WOW! You guys have really done yourselves proud with this coverage. Very slick, and the drone shots really complement the action, giving a sense of the track that is not often seen.
All to frequently I watch a video on U-tube and there is an irritating soundtrack that interferes with what would otherwise be very good. This time I want to congratulate whoever selected the music, it went well with the action, and I found myself tapping my foot to the whole of the first half! Can you tell me what it is, and where it might be found?
An informative interview with Mike Burrows :-) He made some good points. Thank you for coming over and providing a 'mouthpiece' for HPVs, I think it will make a difference for more people to see the action as perhaps it has not been covered before, and with 39 comments before mine, I think I am not alone in thinking that!
Thank you, Con! I am humbled by your effusive praise. My goal with this video was to try to convey the action, color and excitement of HPV racing at its democratic best. I spent way too much time selecting and timing music to accompany the racing scenes but your kind words give me hope that this time was not wasted. The songs come from Epidemic Sound (www.epidemicsound.com/) which I find to have the best and most affordable offerings for this purpose. Lars Komm handled the drone and was responsible for producing those fantastic views from above. Thanks for watching and for helping me to feel that our work is being appreciated.
What an awesome hobby. The velos look super cool imo and I'd love to try this:)
What's The Music Piece During The One Lap Time Trials? I Love It!!!
Hi Jonathan! Most of the music I use comes from Epidemic Sound and this one is as well. Here is the info: _Racing For Life (Instrumental Version)_ - Johan Glössner.
@hambini can u make a video aboult this bike ?! PLS!
So C👀L !! Thanks ! Haven't tried this yet. . . .😆
Mad dogs and Englishmen lol loved it especially the trolley dash,thanks for your coverage of this event best one yet
TheWelshman50 so nice of you to share your kind thoughts about this video. It was fun to watch and work on the coverage of this cool event.
I would have liked to see more homebuilts.
would like to see speed comparisons of the velos and the enclosed 2 wheelers,those low rider robot twin velos looked fast i wonder if they were
Assuming same rider….Peregrin on Birk 2 wheeler really fast.
Would have been great to know the speeds and times of each of the events.
All the results were in the BHPC link that you can see in the video description above. Unfortunately, they now show up as page not found🤔
Hello all, looking for help. I am a former cycling now ultra runner looking into trikes. I have attached a video. Question is if you took the guys in that video and replaced the bikes with trikes and took out the cornering would those guys be able to do those speeds or anything close to them? I use the video only as an example of the level of rider and the flat land. The type of trike would be something like the ICE VTX.
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Thank you so much for your time and help
Be well
Hey Sean-There were actually ICE VTXs racing in this video😊 If your question was "can they be as fast as some of the bikes racing there?" then the answer is yes. They are not as fast as the fastest bikes but faster than some of them. Lots of variables here especially the strength of the racer.
@@GarySolomon Thank you for taking the time. would you be able willing to give thoughts on: you have a pro 1,2 rider and in front of him is a Cervelo S5 and an ICE VTX. The road is flat and straight for 30 miles. Who is going to come across the line first and by what kind of gap?
@@GarySolomon what I’m trying to get an answer to is if I rode 30 miles in flat land on an ICE VTX and my “twin” was on a Cervelo S5 who would finish first and by how large a margin.
All other things being equal the faster bike would be the lighter bike and one with only two wheels rolling resistance not three wheels. Here is a thread on Bentrider with some insight on this: www.bentrideronline.com/messageboard/showthread.php?t=149727
5:47 He is pedalling opposite! First time I see it :-D
Beatles5 that is correct. That gentleman actually appears a few times in this video reverse pedaling his bike. I had also never seen this done 😊
@@GarySolomon and why? There is a benefit for that?
He must think so but I can't imagine what the advantage would be.
@@argentosebastian Different angle of power stroke apply. This is similar to lowering 'bottom' bracket to couple cmr's. But in cost of learning curve and slight mechanical issues.
The same for me..
I'd love to have 1 of each they all are amazing
Super tolle Fahrräder 👍😁😀
Is that the old chislet colliery site ?
Hi Graham! This event was held at Betteshanger Park on the east Kent coast. Wonderful venue!!
@@GarySolomon thanks I meant Bettshanger colliery site not chislet that is 10 miles further back to Canterbury.
What type of speeds are you guys hitting in the race?
Imagine if everyone's commute to work was as fun as this looks.
I’ve been paying attention to 2 particular details that would involve HPVs: the aerodynamic design of Ferrari and Ford Le Mans cars from the 60s and ideas from velomobile design. Namely, having massive cogs for the crankset and cassette might prove to make velomobiles faster since having a 64 tooth nonetheless a 96 tooth would mathematically allow for a cyclist with cogs as small as an 8 tooth to go faster than 100 mph with a 90 cadence. It’s a matter though of getting those 2 theoretical cogs to work with a massive number of rear cassette gears without having serious derailleur issues. Either that or meticulously craft an entire Internal Planetary hub fitted to the rear axle, with a possible connection to an electric/gas motor engine. Could imagine placing engines as big as half a liter behind a driver and making it capable of going highway speeds with 250,300 miles to the gallon.
By the way, does having smaller wheels at the front actually make an HPV faster? Would be interesting to hear.
What kind of speeds are we talking here?
Here is the link to the results page for the event that I posted in the links section of the video description: wc2018.bhpc.org.uk/results/. Generally speaking 35-45 mph depending on the event. They were moving along briskly😉
@@GarySolomon my phone could not read that page.
Tony if you are on mobile you need to click the little up/down arrow right next to the title. It will drop down the description section.
score? speed? distance?
If you are asking about the results of these races they are linked in the links section in the video description. Here it is again: wc2018.bhpc.org.uk/results/
Are the times for the sprints available somewhere?
michael greene yes. The results are linked at the bottom of the video description.
Amazing intro! Perfect.
Thanks, guys!
dang you guys are so close to making a real production here...pre-race report, exciting reporting, time-trials, but instead its music over all the action, this sport will never see the glory it deserves if you guys keep making these amatuer vids.
"pre-race report, exciting reporting, time-trials"--Thank you @Whatyoudo! Very kind words.
@@GarySolomon not sure if your being silly here, you had none of those things in this vid but you need them, just go look at a race-car event, they talk about the drivers, give their stats and the performance of the machine, go look at GCN's recumbent vids, very exciting showing performance and how fast they can go. Maybe you guys dont know how to do that but its what the sport needs badly.
Well, for what it is worth, I enjoyed the video. I slowed it down to .25 time so I would have time to study all the designs. 😊 keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching, Joseph! I'm so glad you enjoyed it🙂
bent racing could be glorious on video, its cutting edge, fast and interesting...some great shots here and I know its hard work but mix it with concentration on the riders and lap times could be great @@GarySolomon
Double decker! Amazing crazy.
That double decker tandem was one of the highlights of the event for me😃
Yeah, because I always get to do the risky and dangerous stuff for you :D
so, which is best?
Do we have a similar event on the US? Specially in California. Would love to see it.
Not the same type event but Battle Mountain Nevada hosts the World Human Powered Vehicle Challenge every September.
Is there an American Velomobile Association?
Not that I know of. There are various Facebook groups and Doug Davis at Bicycle Evolution in Dallas has the only velomobile dealership in the USA and is a resource.
Just came across this following a thread and if you're right with John W you're right for me.
Ha! I don't know if I'm right with John but he's right with me😉 Thanks for watching, Mark!!
I have a whole new recumbent design, I need to patent it and promote it.
31:21 thosetwo matching ones are very cool
ice thing.. wish i could find more info on those fairings
RIP the Great Mike B
That was very warm summer.
I believe it was a record breaking event with record breaking temperatures 😁
Gut gemacht👌😊
irritating f in moozak. at 20:20 I baled out for the third and final time. cheese n rice, yoyoy?
27:10 velo ads 🙂
I'm convinced you are the reason that so many have watched this video 😊
@ 10:35 number 535 genius!
부럽습니다 🤗🎶🎶💞👍👍👍
thank you would have liked some times.
Hi Chris and thanks for watching. I posted the link for all the results in the description below the video 😊 Here it is again: wc2018.bhpc.org.uk/results/
bike bobble heads!
Why go to all this trouble and not give the speeds?
Hi Tony and thanks for watching. I would never go through all that trouble without listing speeds and results. That's why I put the link to this all right in the description below the video😊
I thought it was "World Women Powered Vehicle" because I jumped right into the medal awarding at 1:06:35 .
More people would buy one if they didn't cost as much as a used car. 8-10,000€ for a bike with fairing?? As much as I want one (I ride an Orbea), there's no way any normal person could afford it.
mayhem if those were in the streets, here most are boor eldery people who ride bikes, audi car drivers think they get ass cancer biking
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How to make a world championship look like a Sunday afternoon stroll in the park: film all the action in slow motion.
Guys, what *is* the point?
Hey Simon. Thanks for watching and your thoughts on the video. My point was to give my viewers a taste of the atmosphere, bikes and people that came together at this special venue for a unique recumbent taking event. If you were doing it what sort of structure would you use to accomplish this?
@@GarySolomon I'm sorry, this is a frustration I have with everybody who films bike racing. You almost never see full-speed action - everybody thinks slo-mo and messing with the speed makes things more 'arty'. But you can't analyse the performance of different styles of bikes if you don't know whether they're slowed down 20% or 50% or 75%... And this is particularly the case with unconventional bikes.
I know how fast a good athlete on a standard time trial bike can go. Are the HPVs going half the speed, or quarter the speed, or...
Could they actually be faster?
From your video, I've no idea. They never seem to get above walking pace.
Doesn’t hold a candle to 24 hour pedal Prix
I think those are two very different events, Ryan 🙂 Pedal Prix coverage is something in working on right now.
:)