@@fersho450to be honest i kinda had a feeling it was inevitable shed blow up like she did but i think they did that to prep us for when she does become the better person she was meant to be.
Yeah now everyone just does it. It's not fun anymore. I'm fine with it when people find the lies in hawkmoth's words and realize he's just saying shit, or instances like luka when he had a major secret to hide from hawkmoth which was enough to make him snap out of it. But all the people who just deakumatise themselves make the other civilians look like a joke when they can't break free from hawkmoth's control over smaller issues 💀
@@hyukleberry5567 it's because they got used to hawk moth akumatizing them over and over again, and it might also be the fact that most of them didn't even think they could break free in the first place (or no one has tried to reach out to them that way since most akumatized villains are crazy dangerous up-close)
I guess it's different because she wants a different thing each time? The other repeat akumatizations (except in groups, I guess) seem to be people getting upset for similar reasons to the first time, and so getting the same ability.
@@chanwoomd8384 honestly, I hadn’t seen season five yet. So I didn’t know about the whole Pharoah situation. But yes, both Alya and Alix’s brother broken free of the akuma’s power. Alya broken free bc she realized she wasn’t on the right side and should never side with Monarch.
Chloe isn't the most acumatized person in Paris. The guy that feeds those pigeons is bc he had been acumatized somewhere in the 70 times. Edit: wow, over 500 likes?! Dude, that is more than I thought I would get, thank yall so much. Edit 2: dude, momma im famous, almost 1k like, thank you all.
It really sucks that Chloe's character arc set-up was pretty much sabotaged in favour of keeping her a crappy bully. Like c'mon, can't we have at least one character with good writing?
No offense, but she was never written well enough for it anyways. She still bullied people, caused akumatization, and actively insulted her classmates and Marinette consistently. Even after episodes like Despair Bear, Queen Wasp, Malediktator. Heck, even by the end of Season 2 after the defeat of Scarlet Moth she literally goes and make Sabrina cry. There was no arc set up for her
@@mlkywine6852she did lots of good things since she become superhero too, watch some of the youtube video explaining about her character and you’ll see, like it or not, she’s fun to watch and if she have a redemption arc no one will surprise, but that’s just too much 4 the creators lol
@@SummerinDecember01 Okay let’s mention the things she has done when she was Queen Bee. 1. She was putting civilians in danger because mommy issues 2. She caused her father to get Akumatized because she couldn’t live with the consequence of her previous actions (like usual) 3. She was the first to resist an Akuma, but oh wait. Points deducted because Sabrina got akumatized because of her awful behavior again. And let’s note that these are the plots of the episodes essentially and came after Despair Bear. The only good she has done so far that didn’t revolve around cleaning her own mess was the season 2 finale. Which isn’t much good compared to the bad
Really wish they kept chloe's redemption going.. Like in miracle queen she could have turned things around, with her having the power to control those who have used miraculous. Including Mayura. Could have resulted in her rejecting the miraculous, asking to wait until she has proven herself *putting a limit on herself instead of having ladybug choose this*. As well as master fu NOT losing his position in the show, THAT would come later after his master shows up. Thus having her slowly trying to be a better person, with her no longer bullying other people, with marinette being one of the last to befriend. While Sabrina becomes the FIRST for her to properly treat. Course a few other changes could occur, like in Hack-san... Marinette gives up the ladybug miraculous for more than one episode in a row, like 2 or 3. Let's make Hack-San similar to pixelator in that the objects and people are essentially in a digital space. *Take inspiration from Code Lyoko, which hack san's design was in reference too anyway* In the space, chloe and marinette are trapped together. Marinette comments on how she has changed, and yet chloe still treats her badly, tries to find out why. Resulting in chloe admitting to being jealous of her, or what she has. "But what can I have that you can't. You're RICH" With chloe being all "You can't buy a loving family who cares about you and has time to spend with you!" Then when they get rescued, they are in the middle of a good laugh session from a joke/moment we didn't hear. In the next part, lets say it takes place WEEKS later. Alya is being a great ladybug, but as a result she starts to neglect nino shunning him, etc. *While Marinette's growing friendship with chloe gets Alya to be annoyed with marinette causing a strain in their friendship* While Adrien starts to lose interest in being cat noir, giving his up much like marinette does. Either ends up being brought to Nino by Plagg, or more perfect... Luka *Since adrien used the snake and the cat before, it would fit for luka to as well.* The final part would end up resulting in ALYA being almost akumatized, and since she knows who ladybug was... Yeah things need to be resolved there. Sometime during that time Adrien becomes cat noir again, AND gets a new ability for his miraculous for percise destruction. Even memories can be destroyed. Wiping alya's mind of any memory of ladybug's identity, etc. During this arc, Marinette and Adrien would start getting closer. Thanks to chloe helping.
From all these rejections is my favorite Alya's. 4:41-4:44 You show it here. The combination of Marinette unconditional trust in Alya, the dramatic music and Alya's courageous struggle and victory over Shadow Mophs influence and getting the well-deserved acknowledgement from Ladybug that she is amazing which she is thanks to an amazing friend and idol like Bugaboo☺️🐞=👍👍👍. This is in my opinion a legendary moment and makes " Gang of secrets" one favorite episodes EVER🤩🤩🤩!! I think it's appropriate to quote All Might from season 1 episode 3 and 5 to say what I think about Alya's progress: "You've exceeded my expectations. Holy... Stinking... SUPER CRAP🤩🤩🤩🤩! What the heck Alya? How did you go and get so cool😎." That's the reason Alya Cesaire is one of my favorite characters and doesn't stand behind to Ladybug and Cat noir when it comes to Awesomeness. She's just so cute smart, kind, brave and coooool🦊=🎸🎸🎸.
I'm sorry you'll going to hate me but I abousloty despise gang of secrets I'm going to give out 3 reasons Number 1:one of my least favorite ladynoir sences I just can't stand ladybug acting up Number 2:marinette's disguise mustche ah hate it Number 3:I just hated how Marinette treated her friends the kwamis especially tikki and yeah o have a bunch of problems with Marinette telling Alya she's ladybug!
You have made three mistakes in the vid. First Lila wasen't akumatized but Monarch made The Ilusion. Second In Perfection Kagami was Akumatized By Monarch not Shadow moth. Third Lila was fired in ,,Emotion" not ,,Revelation"
Similar to Randy Cunningham, beside Randy always destanked students there's another way to destank a student are saying your sorry and confess the truth like Randy got jealous of Howard with three students
The twin O.C’s, I made the boy “If, I have an counter argument, be judgemental about it, people will leave me alone!” The girl “If, I prove myself better than that person, and pick a fight of the mind, they know that they made the wrong decision by messing with the wrong girl!” Both are Scorpio and Sagittarius cusp’s the twins are very complicated
1:03 First: I hate Lila... So Much. I think no explanation is needed and it's most likely everyone else who likes Marinette and the others despise her as much as I do. Second: from that point on everything went downhill. This here is typical case of loving the superman but hating Clark Kent syndrome. Flash and Peter Parker/Spiderman was the first case of I saw and has many parallels to Marinette and Chloe. A blonde bully who picks on an innocent, timid and nice student student for no reason but sadism. But when Spiderman and Ladybug showed up they started to admire the heroes and wanted to emulate them. They still acted bad toward their target but slowly eased up on them. Through the influence and interactions with their idols they showed more of their vulnerable sides and that they have more depth than Peter/Marinette thought. Both were in some instances genuinely friendly like for example Chloe wanting really to a gift to Madame Bustier at near end of zombizou, thanking Ladybug for understanding and trusting her when she took the bee miraculous away and one deed which was remarkable: After Ladybug sayed that she from a friend that no ones useless she helped her save the day and asks her butler to let her clean up her own film set of her fake Ladybug/Queen bee conversation video because it's the right thing to do. But after LB took the Miraculous permanently away for her safety and she grew impatient when she awaited to be Quenn Bee again. After Hawk Moth told its never going to happen Chloe became fed up with her and decided to betray even it's only for the best. I lean myself out of the mirror and say with this action she proves to be unworthy of being a miraculous holder although the other carriers also enjoyed superheroes, they were able to understand why it could be dangerous for them and their loved ones and accept it. But the risk wasn't high enough for Chloe, because she was willing to put up with it and even worse to help Hawk Moph win, and she didn't care what he did with the Miraculous just to get her groundless revenge Despite her little character development she didn't wanted to be hero mainly for saving the innocent. Just like Syndrome from the incredibles she cared more the thrill and fun than the responsibility. Basically she was more interested in the "super" than the "hero" part. She delivered another proof of her audacity and lack of guilt by wanting to be Quenn Bee in New York just to satisfy her need for attention. Even TV tropes is with me that she doesn't deserve to be hero and even though it's influenced her to be a better person choosing her was a "horrible judge of character". I haven't seen all newer episodes but considering she hangs out with Lila means she'll get worse than ever before and saying a lot because I watched "derision" and I didn't think this could be but her actions were even viler than in the present. What she did to her was way worse than what Kacchan did to Deku. She tried to ruin Marinettes life and isolating her from everyone for pure sadism and Kim is additionally an complete gullible idiot. Why did he take advice from a person who bullies poor, poor Marinette on publicly and insults him in their conversation? Why on earth does he think are spiders crawling on someone's body funny? Why would that be a good response if a girl admits her crush to you? If he would be a victim of a prank like this he wouldn't be laughing, I'm sure his laugh will stuck in his throat. And the straw that breaks the camel's back years later she hasn't changed her behavior, broke his heart combined with humiliation on valentines day and is responsible for the most akumazations in Paris and still call her the sweetest and funniest girl in the world. Just as a sidenote: Despite being with Ondine he swooned over Chloe. How can he be that stupid and dense? Luckily he redeem himself by realizing the error of his impulsive behavior and apologizes to Marinette. I hope he'll sees her for what she really is. And Adrien finally understand that Chloe truly cares about nobody but herself and doesn't want to change. She even shamelessly told him that she only sees people with power and those without it and the former should make the latter suffer for their own sick amusement. She is so intoxicated by her spoiled mindset that she couldn't understand why Adrien didn't acted like her and why she should care for "nobodys, losers or the planet" Well duh, because the last thing is where you live and you have an ethical duty to keep it intact for future generations? With that last statement she confirmed what I always knew: Her friendship with Sabrina is nothing but a lie. It's only a parasitic relationship. She thinks of her as slave and the only reason she treats her better is because she does everything Chloe demands and helps with her nefarious schemes. No matter how unfairly she treats her and mooches off of her Sabrina sticks around because she thinks she would be left all alone even though she could befriend the other since she is a nice person unlike Chloe. I don't understand why she didn't think of it before. Unlike the former toxic relationship of Sasha, Anne and Marcy Sasha was able to see how her desires for control, manipulations, and bullying affected the people she cared about and because she valued the her friendship high enough she was able to shed her negative traits and become a better person. What does tell us: Chloes and Sabrina's friendship was never real. She only took advantage of a shy, lonely and insecure who was conveniently good at school. She would ditch her anytime if it means saving her own skin. So unless she doesn't change she deserves it to be miserable. I'm sorry if this comment was a bit too long but I just had to say what I think about it. I will sum up Chloe and Lilas motives with made-up conversations with Ladybug. 1. A Q&A between Ladybug and Lila after former gets fed up with the latter's plans to ruin her and others life's inspired by the Q&A of Negative Flash and Eobard Thawne with a little personal change(like Lila knowing Ladybug's secret identity: Marinette/Ladybug: Why Lila? Why won't you stop? Why do you keep invading my life😡😡? Lila: Because it's the only way shine and to be at the center of attention😰. Marinette/Ladybug: You are so pathetic😠. That's why you worked work with Monarch? Why you tried to ruin my future and the ones of my friends?!? 2. A talk between Ladybug and Chloe inspired by the dramatic dialogue between MCU legend and of my favorite heroes Iron man and Spiderman: Lady Chloe: What do you mean "your fault"? If you had me as the magnificent Queen Bee on your side you wouldn't have lost the miraculous box and Monarch wouldn't have gotten this powerful. None of this would have happened if you'd just listen to me and gave me my miraculous. The truth is if you actually cared and trusted you would have left it with me. Ladybug: I did listen, cared and trusted you Chloe. After you told me how lonely you feel and that you only wanted to prove to your mother that you are special I felt bad for you so I gave you a chance to be on the team because I thought I've seen some good in you and this how you repay my kindness? Chloe: I... Ladybug: Do you know besides Cat noir I was the only one who believed in you? Most people thought I'm crazy for a recruiting a girl who finds sick pleasure in tormenting other people, who cares more for her image and excitement than the welfare and others and causing half of the akumazations in Paris. Chloe: Hey I... Ladybug: No this is where you shut up. I'm talking. What if someone died during your childish and senseless tantrums? Not so funny anymore, right? Because that's on you and that in turn on me because I misjudged you. I have already too much on my conscience and don't need you to join in. Chloe: Okay understand I'm sorry maybe I went a little too far and said and done things that I shouldn't have said and done, but I got so mad because I thought everyone turned against me. I'm sorry. So totally sorry.. Ladybug: This is not like the lucky charm. Saying sorry won't just fix everything you've broke. Chloe: I was your number one fan, Ladybug. But you just threw me in the trash. Because you chose those losers over me. What makes them more qualified than me? I'm smarter, prettier, funnier, cooler, trendier not to forget richer than all of them combined. Explain it. Ladybug: All of them were qualified because they are good persons who cares about others and were heroes in their normal life when doing any good deed. None of them would use power to suppress others and make them feel they're below them and even if they never got their miraculous back they would never ever think of siding with Monarch. But you were and are, Chloe bourgeois were a selfish, cruel, spoiled brat who would sacrifice everyone and everything for her own sake. Chloe: My biggest dream was to impress everyone by being just like you. Ladybug: And I wanted for you to better as your own person. Chloe: OK then give me the bee miraculous back and I'll fix everything I done wrong .I'll do anything to make amendsI'll promise I'll better than this Queen bee fake Vesperia. Ladybug: You doesn't get it. You took my trust and stomped. And after all that happened you beg that I gave you another chance? You can't even do that with insulting my friends Chloe: But I did this longer and have more skill and look better in the suit. Just tell me when can you forgive me? Ladybug: Just let me think, how about never! Chloe: What? No, no, no... Please, please, please Ladybug: I'm sorry I want to trust but you but I can't. Chloe: Wait. You don’t understand. Please. I need it the Miraculous to be extraordinary. This is all I have. I’m nothing without it. Ladybug: You know what? If you’re nothing without it, then you shouldn’t have it. Well what do you think? Wouldn't these conversations be completely if they happened?
I hate how much they ruined Chloe’s character. She has such a good arch lined up for her and they just ruined it. I like Zoe and all but I think think Chloe is only one who can handle the Bee Miraculous!
To concentrate on the last part of my last comment: I will sum up Chloe and Lilas motives with made-up conversations with Ladybug. 1. A Q&A between Ladybug and Lila after former gets fed up with the latter's plans to ruin her and others life's inspired by the Q&A of Negative Flash and Eobard Thawne with a little personal change(like Lila knowing Ladybug's secret identity: Marinette/Ladybug: Why Lila? Why won't you stop? Why do you keep invading my life😡😡? Lila: Because it's the only way shine and to be at the center of attention😰. Marinette/Ladybug: You are so pathetic😠. That's why you worked work with Monarch? Why you tried to ruin my future and the ones of my friends?!? 2. A talk between Ladybug and Chloe inspired by the dramatic dialogue between MCU legend and of my favorite heroes Iron man and Spiderman: Lady Chloe: What do you mean "your fault"? If you had me as the magnificent Queen Bee on your side you wouldn't have lost the miraculous box and Monarch wouldn't have gotten this powerful. None of this would have happened if you'd just listen to me and gave me my miraculous. The truth is if you actually cared and trusted you would have left it with me. Ladybug: I did listen, cared and trusted you Chloe. After you told me how lonely you feel and that you only wanted to prove to your mother that you are special I felt bad for you so I gave you a chance to be on the team because I thought I've seen some good in you and this how you repay my kindness? Chloe: I... Ladybug: Do you know besides Cat noir I was the only one who believed in you? Most people thought I'm crazy for a recruiting a girl who finds sick pleasure in tormenting other people, who cares more for her image and excitement than the welfare and others and causing half of the akumazations in Paris. Chloe: Hey I... Ladybug: No this is where you shut up. I'm talking. What if someone died during your childish and senseless tantrums? Not so funny anymore, right? Because that's on you and that in turn on me because I misjudged you. I have already too much on my conscience and don't need you to join in. Chloe: Okay understand I'm sorry maybe I went a little too far and said and done things that I shouldn't have said and done, but I got so mad because I thought everyone turned against me. I'm sorry. So totally sorry.. Ladybug: This is not like the lucky charm. Saying sorry won't just fix everything you've broke. Chloe: I was your number one fan, Ladybug. But you just threw me in the trash. Because you chose those losers over me. What makes them more qualified than me? I'm smarter, prettier, funnier, cooler, trendier not to forget richer than all of them combined. Explain it. Ladybug: All of them were qualified because they are good persons who cares about others and were heroes in their normal life when doing any good deed. None of them would use power to suppress others and make them feel they're below them and even if they never got their miraculous back they would never ever think of siding with Monarch. But you were and are, Chloe bourgeois were a selfish, cruel, spoiled brat who would sacrifice everyone and everything for her own sake. Chloe: My biggest dream was to impress everyone by being just like you. Ladybug: And I wanted for you to better as your own person. Chloe: OK then give me the bee miraculous back and I'll fix everything I done wrong .I'll do anything to make amendsI'll promise I'll better than this Queen bee fake Vesperia. Ladybug: You doesn't get it. You took my trust and stomped. And after all that happened you beg that I gave you another chance? You can't even do that with insulting my friends Chloe: But I did this longer and have more skill and look better in the suit. Just tell me when can you forgive me? Ladybug: Just let me think, how about never! Chloe: What? No, no, no... Please, please, please Ladybug: I'm sorry I want to trust but you but I can't. Chloe: Wait. You don’t understand. Please. I need it the Miraculous to be extraordinary. This is all I have. I’m nothing without it. Ladybug: You know what? If you’re nothing without it, then you shouldn’t have it. Well what do you think? Wouldn't these conversations be completely if they happened?
Chloe derved to have a redemption for her character. As much as i like Zoe, she will never be the same queen bee as Chloe. Worst part is that Chloe was actually the first to break out of an akuma but only Sabrina saw and knew. Im not excusing her actions, especially not in the latest season but she had an opportunity for redemption but the writers threw it out the window.
8:20 this isn't the first time Marinette was almost akumatized. she was almost akumatized into Princess Justice in "Ladybug" but Catalyst couldn't maintain being Catalyst
I'm so out of touch with the later seasons as i only saw season 1 and 2 still need to see season 3, 4 and 5 but why is Gabriel his hair white inplace from blonde?
The pancake scene with Gabriel Agreste was the weirdest episode for me because everything he was saying to Marinette sounded like he wanted to kill her
![[FANMADE] Marinette Akumatized Scene: Princess Justice [Version 2] -Miraculous Ladybug](/img/n.gif)
I really feel bad for Chloe, like she had a lot of character development potential but they wasted it
Just because the creator hated her
He litreally said "chloe was never abused because she's rich" 💀
And The Sad Part Is That Chloe Was The 1st Ever Person To Break Free From An Akuma But Only Sabrina Saw
@@idontsm0ke wtf? Just because you're rich doesn't mean you can't be abused. That's ridiculous!
@ImFashionWh0re being rich doesn't mean being invulnerable to abuse💀
He also said that neglect isn't abuse💀
God same!
Chloe: "I WILL NEVER JOIN YOU!"
Chloe like 10 more times throughout the show: "Yoo bois today we gonna level Paris"
Thank Thomas astruc for ruining Her development And make Her an Akuma magnet
@@fersho450 🥲
@@fersho450to be honest i kinda had a feeling it was inevitable shed blow up like she did but i think they did that to prep us for when she does become the better person she was meant to be.
@@fersho450 facts
@@fersho450 , Thomas Astruc had a past trauma, and he needed to put it into the show, even if means putting his trauma into Chloe.
Alya rejecting the akuma while fully akumatized was SO cool to see!
Now it's been happening quite a bit in seasons 4 & 5 lol
Yeah now everyone just does it. It's not fun anymore. I'm fine with it when people find the lies in hawkmoth's words and realize he's just saying shit, or instances like luka when he had a major secret to hide from hawkmoth which was enough to make him snap out of it. But all the people who just deakumatise themselves make the other civilians look like a joke when they can't break free from hawkmoth's control over smaller issues 💀
Yeah, I hate how those people don't even try. It's like not fun anymore lol
@@hyukleberry5567 it's because they got used to hawk moth akumatizing them over and over again, and it might also be the fact that most of them didn't even think they could break free in the first place (or no one has tried to reach out to them that way since most akumatized villains are crazy dangerous up-close)
Yeah why do they always put Alya the same villain every time she gets akumatized why don’t they do something new on alya?
@@user-gi8nw8sm3z well she did become Oblivio with nino once
Chloe had such potential. Too bad Ladybug never noticed Chloe rejecting the akuma. And I'm sad that chloes potential was ruined.
Thanks to thomas
@@JazzDevie777indeed
@@JazzDevie777 he's just a terrible person. He may be the creator of Miraculous Ladybug, but he is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
True
@BrooklynGarrett-Robertso-wc4heikr*
Fun fact chloes has been akumaitized every season:
S1- Antibug
S2- Queen Wasp
S3- Miracle Queen
S4- Queen Banana
S5- Mayor
it's interesting how she gets a new name/design with every new akumatization, it's never the same
I guess it's different because she wants a different thing each time? The other repeat akumatizations (except in groups, I guess) seem to be people getting upset for similar reasons to the first time, and so getting the same ability.
You forgot Scarlet Queen Wasp
it didn’t got shown in the miraculous ladybug fandom so yeah
@@P4RADISE995& Penalteam
Season 4 and 5 are the main seasons where people reject the Akuma! When I saw that people can reject them.. specifically Ayla I was shocked
Same because nobody ever done that and I love how ladybug said nobody ever done that before your…
amazing 🤩
@@viru2njoy Hindi batcha
Where do u watch season 4 and 5
@@jeg2560 thx
Dont forget chloe is the first one who reject the akuma
You forgot the honorable mention of where Pharaoh rejects the Akuma of where Monarch lied to him to believe that Ladybug was a villain in Paris
It’s not that great tho- because he rejected it when he found out monarch was lying
There’s a difference between rejection beforehand and breaking free of the control during the Akumatization
@@Delano_Peterson Based on what you're saying, why is Alya breaking free while bineg akumatized in this video?
@@chanwoomd8384 honestly, I hadn’t seen season five yet. So I didn’t know about the whole Pharoah situation. But yes, both Alya and Alix’s brother broken free of the akuma’s power. Alya broken free bc she realized she wasn’t on the right side and should never side with Monarch.
Sabine too
Chloe isn't the most acumatized person in Paris. The guy that feeds those pigeons is bc he had been acumatized somewhere in the 70 times.
Edit: wow, over 500 likes?! Dude, that is more than I thought I would get, thank yall so much.
Edit 2: dude, momma im famous, almost 1k like, thank you all.
70+
@@Someone-qi1rr 72 to be exact
True but the pigeon guy was useless to Hawkmoth/Shadowmoth/Monarch
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It really sucks that Chloe's character arc set-up was pretty much sabotaged in favour of keeping her a crappy bully. Like c'mon, can't we have at least one character with good writing?
No offense, but she was never written well enough for it anyways. She still bullied people, caused akumatization, and actively insulted her classmates and Marinette consistently. Even after episodes like Despair Bear, Queen Wasp, Malediktator. Heck, even by the end of Season 2 after the defeat of Scarlet Moth she literally goes and make Sabrina cry. There was no arc set up for her
@@mlkywine6852she did lots of good things since she become superhero too, watch some of the youtube video explaining about her character and you’ll see, like it or not, she’s fun to watch and if she have a redemption arc no one will surprise, but that’s just too much 4 the creators lol
@@SummerinDecember01 Okay let’s mention the things she has done when she was Queen Bee.
1. She was putting civilians in danger because mommy issues
2. She caused her father to get Akumatized because she couldn’t live with the consequence of her previous actions (like usual)
3. She was the first to resist an Akuma, but oh wait. Points deducted because Sabrina got akumatized because of her awful behavior again.
And let’s note that these are the plots of the episodes essentially and came after Despair Bear. The only good she has done so far that didn’t revolve around cleaning her own mess was the season 2 finale. Which isn’t much good compared to the bad
@@mlkywine6852I'm with you!
Really wish they kept chloe's redemption going..
Like in miracle queen she could have turned things around, with her having the power to control those who have used miraculous. Including Mayura.
Could have resulted in her rejecting the miraculous, asking to wait until she has proven herself *putting a limit on herself instead of having ladybug choose this*. As well as master fu NOT losing his position in the show, THAT would come later after his master shows up.
Thus having her slowly trying to be a better person, with her no longer bullying other people, with marinette being one of the last to befriend.
While Sabrina becomes the FIRST for her to properly treat.
Course a few other changes could occur, like in Hack-san... Marinette gives up the ladybug miraculous for more than one episode in a row, like 2 or 3.
Let's make Hack-San similar to pixelator in that the objects and people are essentially in a digital space. *Take inspiration from Code Lyoko, which hack san's design was in reference too anyway*
In the space, chloe and marinette are trapped together. Marinette comments on how she has changed, and yet chloe still treats her badly, tries to find out why.
Resulting in chloe admitting to being jealous of her, or what she has.
"But what can I have that you can't. You're RICH"
With chloe being all "You can't buy a loving family who cares about you and has time to spend with you!"
Then when they get rescued, they are in the middle of a good laugh session from a joke/moment we didn't hear.
In the next part, lets say it takes place WEEKS later. Alya is being a great ladybug, but as a result she starts to neglect nino shunning him, etc. *While Marinette's growing friendship with chloe gets Alya to be annoyed with marinette causing a strain in their friendship*
While Adrien starts to lose interest in being cat noir, giving his up much like marinette does.
Either ends up being brought to Nino by Plagg, or more perfect... Luka *Since adrien used the snake and the cat before, it would fit for luka to as well.*
The final part would end up resulting in ALYA being almost akumatized, and since she knows who ladybug was... Yeah things need to be resolved there.
Sometime during that time Adrien becomes cat noir again, AND gets a new ability for his miraculous for percise destruction. Even memories can be destroyed.
Wiping alya's mind of any memory of ladybug's identity, etc.
During this arc, Marinette and Adrien would start getting closer. Thanks to chloe helping.
Marinette's family is wealthy though-
@@chanwoomd8384not as wealthy as chloe's
I am so annoyed that Cloe is left alone without her miraculous.
But it good for her anyway
Everyone ostracized her in every way, socially and power-wise.
Chloe*
I agree
I don't like her cuz all she did was bully
Chloe: “I’ll never join you!”
Also Chloe: “Yay Im Hawkmoth fav now!”
True tho
Chloe: I will never join you!
Also her: The cause of many akumatized people and got like akumatized 3 or more times herself
4 plus
Anti bug
Queen wasp once or twice
Penal team
The season 5 one
You forgot when Marinette almost was turned into Princess Justice... I believe in season 2 but she snapped out of it and therefore rejected the akuma
@Pendukung Ws right so it'd still count
Technically she didn't reject it, Nathalie collapsed and Gabriel canceled his Akumas before she could do anything
@@Chernobog2 I suppose so
it was in season 3 actually, in the episode Ladybug
@@_kataliste_ bruh that is the episode with the sentimonster that looks just like ladybug, marinette was not akumatized in that episode.
You forgot in season 5 luka was getting akumadised but he refused the akuma because he new the identies of both the heros
😅 no
Dude THAT BLEW MY MIND when Monarch sensed Luka's hidden panic, AAAH THAT WAS GOOD
Knew*
Chloe is more careless when expelled from heroism being miracle queen and other akumatized forms isn't good at all
if adrien/cat noir tries to get akumatized again, he'll have to try his best to reject that akuma power in the future season
Yes totally agree 👍 👏 👌
He should destroy an Akuma like in cat blanc or something
5:30-NGAMAAAAAA
that got me laughing on the floor😂
I feel like in the later seasons rejecting acomas becomes too common
Ikr
“Wow, be careful. What’re you tryna do with that little stick?” Best Anansi quote
From all these rejections is my favorite Alya's. 4:41-4:44 You show it here. The combination of Marinette unconditional trust in Alya, the dramatic music and Alya's courageous struggle and victory over Shadow Mophs influence and getting the well-deserved acknowledgement from Ladybug that she is amazing which she is thanks to an amazing friend and idol like Bugaboo☺️🐞=👍👍👍. This is in my opinion a legendary moment and makes " Gang of secrets" one favorite episodes EVER🤩🤩🤩!! I think it's appropriate to quote All Might from season 1 episode 3 and 5 to say what I think about Alya's progress: "You've exceeded my expectations. Holy... Stinking... SUPER CRAP🤩🤩🤩🤩! What the heck Alya? How did you go and get so cool😎."
That's the reason Alya Cesaire is one of my favorite characters and doesn't stand behind to Ladybug and Cat noir when it comes to Awesomeness. She's just so cute smart, kind, brave and coooool🦊=🎸🎸🎸.
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I'm sorry you'll going to hate me but I abousloty despise gang of secrets I'm going to give out 3 reasons
Number 1:one of my least favorite ladynoir sences I just can't stand ladybug acting up
Number 2:marinette's disguise mustche ah hate it
Number 3:I just hated how Marinette treated her friends the kwamis especially tikki and yeah o have a bunch of problems with Marinette telling Alya she's ladybug!
His name isn’t shadow moth it’s monarch (that’s when Kagami gets akumatised into a giant cloud)
That's S4 or S5 the monarch I think The names were Hawk Moth, Shadow Moth, Scarlet Moth, Monarch
You have made three mistakes in the vid.
First Lila wasen't akumatized but Monarch made The Ilusion.
Second In Perfection Kagami was Akumatized By Monarch not Shadow moth.
Third Lila was fired in ,,Emotion" not ,,Revelation"
No she was fired in revelation
@@foluayeni1925 Aha! Your right in Revelation she was fired & in Emotion she said: I am show you that i am not just a bottle of perfume...Monarch!
@@foluayeni1925where did you guys even get the chance to watch that episode?
Similar to Randy Cunningham, beside Randy always destanked students there's another way to destank a student are saying your sorry and confess the truth like Randy got jealous of Howard with three students
The twin O.C’s, I made the boy “If, I have an counter argument, be judgemental about it, people will leave me alone!” The girl “If, I prove myself better than that person, and pick a fight of the mind, they know that they made the wrong decision by messing with the wrong girl!” Both are Scorpio and Sagittarius cusp’s the twins are very complicated
They somehow make me think of Aether and Lumine.
You forget about alix brother who reject the akuma in reunion episode
“No hawkmoth! I am a super heroine!!”
She really took heroine to become a hero..
1:03 First: I hate Lila... So Much. I think no explanation is needed and it's most likely everyone else who likes Marinette and the others despise her as much as I do. Second: from that point on everything went downhill. This here is typical case of loving the superman but hating Clark Kent syndrome. Flash and Peter Parker/Spiderman was the first case of I saw and has many parallels to Marinette and Chloe. A blonde bully who picks on an innocent, timid and nice student student for no reason but sadism. But when Spiderman and Ladybug showed up they started to admire the heroes and wanted to emulate them. They still acted bad toward their target but slowly eased up on them. Through the influence and interactions with their idols they showed more of their vulnerable sides and that they have more depth than Peter/Marinette thought. Both were in some instances genuinely friendly like for example Chloe wanting really to a gift to Madame Bustier at near end of zombizou, thanking Ladybug for understanding and trusting her when she took the bee miraculous away and one deed which was remarkable: After Ladybug sayed that she from a friend that no ones useless she helped her save the day and asks her butler to let her clean up her own film set of her fake Ladybug/Queen bee conversation video because it's the right thing to do. But after LB took the Miraculous permanently away for her safety and she grew impatient when she awaited to be Quenn Bee again. After Hawk Moth told its never going to happen Chloe became fed up with her and decided to betray even it's only for the best. I lean myself out of the mirror and say with this action she proves to be unworthy of being a miraculous holder although the other carriers also enjoyed superheroes, they were able to understand why it could be dangerous for them and their loved ones and accept it. But the risk wasn't high enough for Chloe, because she was willing to put up with it and even worse to help Hawk Moph win, and she didn't care what he did with the Miraculous just to get her groundless revenge Despite her little character development she didn't wanted to be hero mainly for saving the innocent. Just like Syndrome from the incredibles she cared more the thrill and fun than the responsibility. Basically she was more interested in the "super" than the "hero" part. She delivered another proof of her audacity and lack of guilt by wanting to be Quenn Bee in New York just to satisfy her need for attention. Even TV tropes is with me that she doesn't deserve to be hero and even though it's influenced her to be a better person choosing her was a "horrible judge of character". I haven't seen all newer episodes but considering she hangs out with Lila means she'll get worse than ever before and saying a lot because I watched "derision" and I didn't think this could be but her actions were even viler than in the present. What she did to her was way worse than what Kacchan did to Deku. She tried to ruin Marinettes life and isolating her from everyone for pure sadism and Kim is additionally an complete gullible idiot. Why did he take advice from a person who bullies poor, poor Marinette on publicly and insults him in their conversation? Why on earth does he think are spiders crawling on someone's body funny? Why would that be a good response if a girl admits her crush to you? If he would be a victim of a prank like this he wouldn't be laughing, I'm sure his laugh will stuck in his throat. And the straw that breaks the camel's back years later she hasn't changed her behavior, broke his heart combined with humiliation on valentines day and is responsible for the most akumazations in Paris and still call her the sweetest and funniest girl in the world. Just as a sidenote: Despite being with Ondine he swooned over Chloe. How can he be that stupid and dense? Luckily he redeem himself by realizing the error of his impulsive behavior and apologizes to Marinette. I hope he'll sees her for what she really is. And Adrien finally understand that Chloe truly cares about nobody but herself and doesn't want to change. She even shamelessly told him that she only sees people with power and those without it and the former should make the latter suffer for their own sick amusement. She is so intoxicated by her spoiled mindset that she couldn't understand why Adrien didn't acted like her and why she should care for "nobodys, losers or the planet" Well duh, because the last thing is where you live and you have an ethical duty to keep it intact for future generations? With that last statement she confirmed what I always knew: Her friendship with Sabrina is nothing but a lie. It's only a parasitic relationship. She thinks of her as slave and the only reason she treats her better is because she does everything Chloe demands and helps with her nefarious schemes. No matter how unfairly she treats her and mooches off of her Sabrina sticks around because she thinks she would be left all alone even though she could befriend the other since she is a nice person unlike Chloe. I don't understand why she didn't think of it before. Unlike the former toxic relationship of Sasha, Anne and Marcy Sasha was able to see how her desires for control, manipulations, and bullying affected the people she cared about and because she valued the her friendship high enough she was able to shed her negative traits and become a better person. What does tell us: Chloes and Sabrina's friendship was never real. She only took advantage of a shy, lonely and insecure who was conveniently good at school. She would ditch her anytime if it means saving her own skin. So unless she doesn't change she deserves it to be miserable.
I'm sorry if this comment was a bit too long but I just had to say what I think about it.
I will sum up Chloe and Lilas motives with made-up conversations with Ladybug.
1. A Q&A between Ladybug and Lila after former gets fed up with the latter's plans to ruin her and others life's inspired by the Q&A of Negative Flash and Eobard Thawne with a little personal change(like Lila knowing Ladybug's secret identity:
Marinette/Ladybug: Why Lila? Why won't you stop? Why do you keep invading my life😡😡?
Lila: Because it's the only way shine and to be at the center of attention😰.
Marinette/Ladybug: You are so pathetic😠. That's why you worked work with Monarch? Why you tried to ruin my future and the ones of my friends?!?
2. A talk between Ladybug and Chloe inspired by the dramatic dialogue between MCU legend and of my favorite heroes Iron man and Spiderman:
Lady
Chloe: What do you mean "your fault"?
If you had me as the magnificent Queen Bee on your side you wouldn't have lost the miraculous box and Monarch wouldn't have gotten this powerful. None of this would have happened if you'd just listen to me and gave me my miraculous. The truth is if you actually cared and trusted you would have left it with me.
Ladybug: I did listen, cared and trusted you Chloe. After you told me how lonely you feel and that you only wanted to prove to your mother that you are special I felt bad for you so I gave you a chance to be on the team because I thought I've seen some good in you and this how you repay my kindness?
Chloe: I...
Ladybug: Do you know besides Cat noir I was the only one who believed in you? Most people thought I'm crazy for a recruiting a girl who finds sick pleasure in tormenting other people, who cares more for her image and excitement than the welfare and others and causing half of the akumazations in Paris.
Chloe: Hey I...
Ladybug: No this is where you shut up. I'm talking. What if someone died during your childish and senseless tantrums? Not so funny anymore, right? Because that's on you and that in turn on me because I misjudged you. I have already too much on my conscience and don't need you to join in.
Chloe: Okay understand I'm sorry maybe I went a little too far and said and done things that I shouldn't have said and done, but I got so mad because I thought everyone turned against me. I'm sorry. So totally sorry..
Ladybug: This is not like the lucky charm. Saying sorry won't just fix everything you've broke.
Chloe: I was your number one fan, Ladybug. But you just threw me in the trash. Because you chose those losers over me. What makes them more qualified than me? I'm smarter, prettier, funnier, cooler, trendier not to forget richer than all of them combined. Explain it.
Ladybug: All of them were qualified because they are good persons who cares about others and were heroes in their normal life when doing any good deed. None of them would use power to suppress others and make them feel they're below them and even if they never got their miraculous back they would never ever think of siding with Monarch. But you were and are, Chloe bourgeois were a selfish, cruel, spoiled brat who would sacrifice everyone and everything for her own sake.
Chloe: My biggest dream was to impress everyone by being just like you.
Ladybug: And I wanted for you to better as your own person.
Chloe: OK then give me the bee miraculous back and I'll fix everything I done wrong .I'll do anything to make amendsI'll promise I'll better than this Queen bee fake Vesperia.
Ladybug: You doesn't get it. You took my trust and stomped. And after all that happened you beg that I gave you another chance? You can't even do that with insulting my friends
Chloe: But I did this longer and have more skill and look better in the suit. Just tell me when can you forgive me?
Ladybug: Just let me think, how about never!
Chloe: What? No, no, no... Please, please, please
Ladybug: I'm sorry I want to trust but you but I can't.
Chloe: Wait. You don’t understand. Please. I need it the Miraculous to be extraordinary. This is all I have. I’m nothing without it.
Ladybug: You know what? If you’re nothing without it, then you shouldn’t have it.
Well what do you think? Wouldn't these conversations be completely if they happened?
The most akumatized person in paris is The Pigeon Guy he literally got akumatized 24 times in a week!
And this is why I wish Chloe had stayed on the path to redemption. She had the potential to be good. She just needed faith and healthy encouragement.
it never fails to amaze me
One word Luca THAT WAS INSANE
perfect video
The part were Adrien says KISS ME!Maranette was like what
0:31 omg what
WHAT EPISODE IS THAT
“Marinette, kiss me!”
*drops flower*
intense music.
Why is that so funny
THE FIRST ONE THO LOLLLL "marinete kiss me!" marinette on the sight of those words"ok"*drops akuma and then just LUV*
I hate how much they ruined Chloe’s character. She has such a good arch lined up for her and they just ruined it. I like Zoe and all but I think think Chloe is only one who can handle the Bee Miraculous!
The episode of "perfection is probably one of the best episodes of all time tbh
The fact that Gabriel said and this concerns me how without even looking at her was so funny
To concentrate on the last part of my last comment:
I will sum up Chloe and Lilas motives with made-up conversations with Ladybug.
1. A Q&A between Ladybug and Lila after former gets fed up with the latter's plans to ruin her and others life's inspired by the Q&A of Negative Flash and Eobard Thawne with a little personal change(like Lila knowing Ladybug's secret identity:
Marinette/Ladybug: Why Lila? Why won't you stop? Why do you keep invading my life😡😡?
Lila: Because it's the only way shine and to be at the center of attention😰.
Marinette/Ladybug: You are so pathetic😠. That's why you worked work with Monarch? Why you tried to ruin my future and the ones of my friends?!?
2. A talk between Ladybug and Chloe inspired by the dramatic dialogue between MCU legend and of my favorite heroes Iron man and Spiderman:
Lady
Chloe: What do you mean "your fault"?
If you had me as the magnificent Queen Bee on your side you wouldn't have lost the miraculous box and Monarch wouldn't have gotten this powerful. None of this would have happened if you'd just listen to me and gave me my miraculous. The truth is if you actually cared and trusted you would have left it with me.
Ladybug: I did listen, cared and trusted you Chloe. After you told me how lonely you feel and that you only wanted to prove to your mother that you are special I felt bad for you so I gave you a chance to be on the team because I thought I've seen some good in you and this how you repay my kindness?
Chloe: I...
Ladybug: Do you know besides Cat noir I was the only one who believed in you? Most people thought I'm crazy for a recruiting a girl who finds sick pleasure in tormenting other people, who cares more for her image and excitement than the welfare and others and causing half of the akumazations in Paris.
Chloe: Hey I...
Ladybug: No this is where you shut up. I'm talking. What if someone died during your childish and senseless tantrums? Not so funny anymore, right? Because that's on you and that in turn on me because I misjudged you. I have already too much on my conscience and don't need you to join in.
Chloe: Okay understand I'm sorry maybe I went a little too far and said and done things that I shouldn't have said and done, but I got so mad because I thought everyone turned against me. I'm sorry. So totally sorry..
Ladybug: This is not like the lucky charm. Saying sorry won't just fix everything you've broke.
Chloe: I was your number one fan, Ladybug. But you just threw me in the trash. Because you chose those losers over me. What makes them more qualified than me? I'm smarter, prettier, funnier, cooler, trendier not to forget richer than all of them combined. Explain it.
Ladybug: All of them were qualified because they are good persons who cares about others and were heroes in their normal life when doing any good deed. None of them would use power to suppress others and make them feel they're below them and even if they never got their miraculous back they would never ever think of siding with Monarch. But you were and are, Chloe bourgeois were a selfish, cruel, spoiled brat who would sacrifice everyone and everything for her own sake.
Chloe: My biggest dream was to impress everyone by being just like you.
Ladybug: And I wanted for you to better as your own person.
Chloe: OK then give me the bee miraculous back and I'll fix everything I done wrong .I'll do anything to make amendsI'll promise I'll better than this Queen bee fake Vesperia.
Ladybug: You doesn't get it. You took my trust and stomped. And after all that happened you beg that I gave you another chance? You can't even do that with insulting my friends
Chloe: But I did this longer and have more skill and look better in the suit. Just tell me when can you forgive me?
Ladybug: Just let me think, how about never!
Chloe: What? No, no, no... Please, please, please
Ladybug: I'm sorry I want to trust but you but I can't.
Chloe: Wait. You don’t understand. Please. I need it the Miraculous to be extraordinary. This is all I have. I’m nothing without it.
Ladybug: You know what? If you’re nothing without it, then you shouldn’t have it.
Well what do you think? Wouldn't these conversations be completely if they happened?
Chloe derved to have a redemption for her character. As much as i like Zoe, she will never be the same queen bee as Chloe. Worst part is that Chloe was actually the first to break out of an akuma but only Sabrina saw and knew. Im not excusing her actions, especially not in the latest season but she had an opportunity for redemption but the writers threw it out the window.
After everything she did and said to Marinette,I don't think that Chloe deserves that
My favorite part: MaRiNneTtE KiSs mE
Marinnette:😨
I love this video
Who else was excited to see marinette get Acumatized by hock moth.
i really love lady bug i am a big fan.i have already seen every episode
2:43 you got this information wrong.
yeah i was checking the comments incase anyone realized
0:58 … you know, a big chunk of all akumas got their targets as a direct result of Chloe being the worst person in all of Paris
OOF THIS ONE HITS HARD 1:24
Yup
I love the thumbnail so much!!!
I missed season 4 and 5 and the quality increased so much ! Kind of want to watch it again
LMAO that first 5 seconds sounded so suggestive 😂
3:35 wth is this episode
Rocketear
Thank you
Lila is nothing but a bad liar
Then Marinette is nothing but some mary sue
Who's hypocrite and never has consequences of her actions
Only consequence she ever had is season 4 finale
2:30 no that's not true he did illusion him self without help of lilla she only told him that
It's actually surprising that you can actually reject the Akuma
Oh, hey! How’s it going!
Unmasker 0:33
Queen Wasp 1:05
Paralizer 1:48
Collector 2:51
Rocketear 3:27
Ladywifi 4:07
Penalty 5:24
Qilin 5:53
Ryuko 7:08
Hoaxer 7:45
“Wow be careful what are you trying to do with that little stick”
I kinda wanna see Marinette akumitized for some reason
Whot about "pheroh learns the truth" ?
Chloe repels twice and it’s the first. Best character
I like all your videos ❤
8:20 this isn't the first time Marinette was almost akumatized. she was almost akumatized into Princess Justice in "Ladybug" but Catalyst couldn't maintain being Catalyst
7:16
well, I mean, everyone knows that...
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Marinette dont hear hank moth
Bruh spammer
I claimed my spot
Gabriel is so suprised by rejecting akumas
I loved when Chloe rejected the akuma💀
Lucas guitar smash was heavy symbolizing that monarch is getting stronger and that he is stronger
Gabriel is so kind when his whering white t-shirts
For Rena Furtive she’s so cool
Do not forget Chloe was the first akuma rejecter ... I will love her forever even she loose her way or stimula... She is forever Queen Bee🐝
7:58 BRAZILIAN?
fun fact: my dad's friend knows the voice actor of chloe
4:59 she is not even close to the #1 spot and it's funny
So akuma rejection is basically a deus ex machina for when the writers realize they've made a character that LB and CN can't reasonably beat
Marrinette has been akumatized in season 2
She wasn't?
Where do u watch season 4 and 5
Lila was the last person I would expect to reject an akuma lol
I'm so out of touch with the later seasons as i only saw season 1 and 2 still need to see season 3, 4 and 5 but why is Gabriel his hair white inplace from blonde?
monarch is too powerful
The pancake scene with Gabriel Agreste was the weirdest episode for me because everything he was saying to Marinette sounded like he wanted to kill her
Me: NO! I WILL NEVER PLAY YOUR FOOLISH GAME! YOU DO NOT SCARE ME! I AM BETTER THAN TO BE YOUR PUPPET!
I love your video so much ,please send me more videos ❤
SLAYYYY CHLOE NEVER JOIN HAWK MOTHHH
Chloe: GIMME YO MIRACULOUSSSSSSSSS
Felix is the only character who has a brain lol
I adore Alya and Marinette's restitution.
Everytime someone rejects an aukma haukmoth is like bruhhhhh
Cool 😎
Ladybug is the best person in the world 😍😍😍😍❤️❤️❤️❤️😸😸👋👌 may God bless ladybug
Hi I know I'm probably late but can someone tell me where I can watch all the seasons of miraculous ladybug pls
*gets akumatized*
"no"
*akuma leaves*
:)
I think marinette has been acumatized once or twice
“ maranette kiss me!”
*drops*
*kisses*
8:45 MaRiNeTte KiSs mE
Miraculous but only the time when your parents walk in be like:
Who are here in 2024
👇
Me
What about when the entire school helped the principal to reject the akuma
I don’t actually watch the series but I watch Gacha and stuff like this, I been had no clue that was how their names were said 💀
Kagami wasn't akumatized by Shadow Moth she was akumatized by Monarch
6:56 um, he wasn't Shadow Moth anymore at that time. He's Monarch at that point