I don't know about everyone else but there is just so much focus on lead guitar, drums, and vocals in X Japan that I sometimes forget how amazingly talented Pata and Heath are.
I feel the same way!! I think part of it is that toshi, yoshiki and sugizo have really strong stage presence so they stand out no matter where they are
Anyone who doubts Sugizo's skills please look at the videos where he's demonstrating the boss gt-10 effects. Dude was slap-popping, shredding, and doing tap-harmonics like crazy and he was just noodling.
PATA is the great Gandalf of the Rock n Roll world! During the 80's he is PATA the grey now he is resurrected to PATA the white with great calmness and wisdom in his guitar powers. While ToshI is like Boruto in great timeskip. His voice becomes better! He is now immune to Omnipotence (brainwashing). While Yoshiki and Sugizo becomes the musical vampires. Since Regency period both of them are playing classical instruments piano and violin their passion for music through ages and cheers from their fans gives them the energy to survive and immortality. While Heath is one of the main heroes in Final Fantasy Universe. His bass guitar is his arsenal to kill the final boss. When all of them combined they are invinsible!
pata old school rocker still kicking it hard. Sugizo old school rocker noodling around with the whammy bar. They both rock!! heath isn`t no taiji but he rocks imo. Love Pata though
That whole argument was pretty hilarious, I bet Heath practiced the whole way through that, and If Taiji was here he would be doing the same. Let us all give respect to all musicians who play with X Japan!
I don't see why Yoshiki would be embarrassed. He didn't want Heath in the band in the first place, and hide had to persuade him to give Heath a chance. And in the long run Yoshiki was very happy with Heath because contrary to Taiji, Heath never critized Yoshiki's decisions and always followed in passive agreement. And that is exactly what Yoshiki wants.
Pata plays really like American guitarists such as Slash,his style is different from Sugizo so i personally think that we can not compete two of them together(sorry for my bad English)
@palkiasmaster235 Ummm check out 1992 Extasy Summit where he's playing "X" with a bunch of other guys. He rips through Pata AND hide's solos effortlessly. Like I said, he can play anything that hide can play. One can't use the same criteria to evaluate his solos in Luna Sea. They're not a metal band, it's a completely different style of music and the focus is emotive playing and dynamics, not shred.
There's no really competition in a guitar solo... even though they kinda weren't solo per se. But X japan was never about amazing technique, I think that's where they struggle a bit, but song writing they are amazing
@visualrocker69 sugizo dont impress me i saw some of his solos with luna sea and they dont are such an awesome thing anyway if you have some videos of an awesome solo by sugizo i appreciate if you show them to me
@xXDARKYOSHIKIXx now that i know a lot of things about guitar i wonder why everyone is saying that hide is a bad player i mean he can do pinch harmonics in her solos he can shred he can do tapping but in her solos he never shows all of his skills and sugizo is like kirk hammet just a lot of effects
@PIXUTUS I agree with you, it's sad.. take the Love Replica part at the end '6:17' they are totally out of sync playing together. And the worst thing is, it looks like they don't even care ...
@Kougasomoi Well, Taiji was a much better bassist, and, if I'm not mistaken, there was a sort of Taiji/Heath bass battle at Yokohama. (I heard this from a Japanese guy who went; unfortunately, I couldn't. T________T) Heath was destroyed. I don't think it's necessarily that the bassists are not represented enough, it's just I think it would be embarrassing for X Japan to represent Heath like that.
No, a level of technical ability is not an opinion. Heath can't play bass like Taiji could; that's a fact. Now, whether you think he's a better musician or has better solos all around is your opinion, and I will respect that opinion (because I don't think he's a bad musician), even though I don't agree with it. ^^
It would embarrass him because TAIJI was a much better bassist, and it would be clear that Yoshiki would take someone worse if it precluded any arguments to what he wants.
It would be embarrassing for Yoshiki to release any footage of their replacement bassist getting destroyed by someone many believe Yoshiki kicked from the band. Heath's bass solos are entertaining, and I do enjoy that particular one, but when it comes to skill, Taiji wiped the floor with him.
@visualrocker69 yeah it sounds good anyway x solo is not that hard i want to see something awesome from him and a guitar solo shows all the skill and style of the player but like in this solo i only see a overused whammy bar look at pata he is doing a good blues but sugizo i dont know if he is playing with all his skills
Different levels of technical ability--that's a comparison. TAIJI was better. Heath isn't a great bassist. He's an okay bassist--nothing more, nothing less (as far as his work with X goes). Now, some of his compositions outside of X (not challenging), but beautiful to the ears.
KoreaxxLove Their styles are worlds apart. Taiji loved to show off his fine skills with his crazy out of whack style. Heath is strictly orthodox in style and doesn't go outside that realm. I'm sure he can if he wanted to, but it just would be Heath. I do quite miss his solo work...
I can´t hear Sugizo´s solo over that awfull amount of delay. Same for Heath and his dist... Pata in the other hand had an awesome tone on this concert. Maybe it´s the natural reverb on the stage...
"You can only tell someone she's WRONG before it gets old." "Yeah I know..." What do you think that implies? You are wrong if you say Heath is more skilled on bass. If you think his compositions are better--that's an opinion. But, the skill required to play bass like Taiji is much higher than to play like Heath. I'm aware skill isn't everything, but it's still not an opinion.
All this conversation on these yokohama concerts just proved that X is a fangirl/boy-band. So much talk, so little knowlegde. CLOSE YOUR EYES, FORGET WHO'S PLAYING AND LISTEN. I hate it when they can be crap but still millions of people are saying things like "the two most techincal and amazing players in the world
The way your construing your sentence doesn't even fit the context. That's a really awkward reply. Anyone would misconstrue that. That's interesting. Since you're debating back with me, I assume your daughter is more mature than you, too? Of course I'm going to tell you that you're wrong. You keep insisting that it's your opinion Heath is more skilled, and that's not an opinion. That statement is just a flat-out lie.
damn I can't stand sugizo. The guy knows 1 scale and pulls his whammy bar, he puts up nothing more than a show but I guess that's what the fans want...... His sound does fit him perfectly: artificial, fake and .... crappy hah
この最強をずっと見る事ができると思ってた。50.60.70代の3人を見たいと思ってた。
こうゆう形で見れて嬉しい。
SUGIZOはソロコーナーいつもバイオリンだからギターソロ、ベースソロに参加してるのめっちゃ貴重なんよね。
最強の３人かっこいい！
TAIJIくんも良かったけど、XJAPANベーシストはやっぱりHEATHちゃんが一番でした✨
ひーちゃんピック使い半端ねえ！
Pata is a legend. Sugizo is great, Heat Is so awesome. And Hide always be a rock God!
PATAのこのギターすげー良いやつなんだっけ？
この乾いた轟音？って感じの音すげー好き
本物のビンテージレスポールです。
元々55年のレスポールゴールドトップを塗り直そうと塗装を剥がしたがそのままでいいんじゃね？って事で弾いてるそうです。ハゲと呼んでるらしいです
PATAさんのハゲのサウンドはやっぱカッケーっす！さすがギブソンレスポールって感じです！SUGIZOはLUNA SEA感がどうしても拭えない感がありますよね。
このギターバトルの時だけでも黒のレスポールカスタム使えば良かったのに
I don't know about everyone else but there is just so much focus on lead guitar, drums, and vocals in X Japan that I sometimes forget how amazingly talented Pata and Heath are.
I feel the same way!! I think part of it is that toshi, yoshiki and sugizo have really strong stage presence so they stand out no matter where they are
石塚先生がワウ使ってる映像はじめてみました！好きなエフェクターは「フェイザー」と「ワウ」くらいだって言ってたような・・・・。
そうですね、空間系は使い方がよくわからんっておっしゃってましたね
Best intro Pata
Best solo Sugizo
Best outfit Heath
But i loves all :D
Anyone who doubts Sugizo's skills please look at the videos where he's demonstrating the boss gt-10 effects. Dude was slap-popping, shredding, and doing tap-harmonics like crazy and he was just noodling.
PATA is the great Gandalf of the Rock n Roll world!
During the 80's he is PATA the grey now he is resurrected to PATA the white with great calmness and wisdom in his guitar powers.
While ToshI is like Boruto in great timeskip. His voice becomes better! He is now immune to Omnipotence (brainwashing).
While Yoshiki and Sugizo becomes the musical vampires. Since Regency period both of them are playing classical instruments piano and violin their passion for music through ages and cheers from their fans gives them the energy to survive and immortality.
While Heath is one of the main heroes in Final Fantasy Universe. His bass guitar is his arsenal to kill the final boss.
When all of them combined they are invinsible!
I like guitar, thanks for sharing this video
pata old school rocker still kicking it hard. Sugizo old school rocker noodling around with the whammy bar. They both rock!! heath isn`t no taiji but he rocks imo. Love Pata though
hide is a great guitarist, and so is Sugizo
sugizo のギターは「ドヤァ！」っていう感じで叫ぶようなギタープレイだけど、pataは 「ほら どうだ？」って語りかけてくるようなギターだと思う。
わかる
My favorite freaking guitarist!!!!!
円熟味の増したＰＡＴＡのギタープレイ最高です！
sugizoのギターまるで喋ってるみたい
ふう 親分の意思を受け継いでますから
みんなかっこよすぎる...(´；ω；｀)
I...am so blown away right now! This was really, really cool :D!
Pata is pretty badass
That whole argument was pretty hilarious, I bet Heath practiced the whole way through that, and If Taiji was here he would be doing the same. Let us all give respect to all musicians who play with X Japan!
HEATH❤
SUGIZOのギターかっこよすぎ🎸！
06:01 Love Replica
I think , after Hide, Sugizo is the best guitarist in Japan.
I was going to watch this while having lunch, and all I did was digging that awesome play, and I let my meal get cold...
EPIC
PATA は味があるw
I don't see why Yoshiki would be embarrassed. He didn't want Heath in the band in the first place, and hide had to persuade him to give Heath a chance. And in the long run Yoshiki was very happy with Heath because contrary to Taiji, Heath never critized Yoshiki's decisions and always followed in passive agreement. And that is exactly what Yoshiki wants.
shakotoon I agree.
in first phase u can see how Sugizo is just looking for inspiration from a note, it's total improvising
SUGIZO の服もう着ても着なくても同じやん(笑)
それを言ったらおわり。
笑える。
なんて良い歌でしょう
heathまたイーグルベース使ってくれないかな。。。
イーグルベースと、今のやつってやっぱり全然ちがいますか？
ベース歴4ヶ月で全然知識ないんですが、HEATHの音が好きでHEATHモデルのベースを欲しいと思ってるんですが、今ネットで売られてるFERNANDES FJB-125H はイーグルのような音とは違うんですか？
Pata plays really like American guitarists such as Slash,his style is different from Sugizo so i personally think that we can not compete two of them together(sorry for my bad English)
So True!
この頃は皆んな気合い入ってたなあ。。。Pata, ひーちゃんどうしたのかな？最近元気ない。。。
すべてヨシキのせい
If we see this way, we can say that hide's style is similar to the style of jimmy page, sugizo is like Eddie van halen and pata is like slash.
slash dawn
히스.. 고인의 명복을 빕니다.
@palkiasmaster235: well, I don't know about guitar technique but I believe both hide, SUGIZO & PATA are amazing guitarist
PATAのペンタ主体の古いギタープレイ渋くて好きや。
@palkiasmaster235
Ummm check out 1992 Extasy Summit where he's playing "X" with a bunch of other guys. He rips through Pata AND hide's solos effortlessly. Like I said, he can play anything that hide can play. One can't use the same criteria to evaluate his solos in Luna Sea. They're not a metal band, it's a completely different style of music and the focus is emotive playing and dynamics, not shred.
３人ともやばいなー！！
欲を言えば次の演者に移る間にもうちょっとだけオーディエンスが反応する〝間〟が欲しかった。歓声を届ける間に入れてほしいっす。
でも最高。
6:01 Love Replica - HIDE
good lord 4:37 my fav part
00:50~00:60のSUGIZOのすごい音はどうやるんです？
MU Smart わーむ
いやぁHEATHかっこいいよおおおおお
ＨＥＡＴＨ最高！
There's no really competition in a guitar solo... even though they kinda weren't solo per se. But X japan was never about amazing technique, I think that's where they struggle a bit, but song writing they are amazing
@palkiasmaster235
Sugizo can play anything hide can play easily.
ワウと歪の後に繋いだディレイですね。
HEATHいちいちカッコイイ
Good. You can only tell someone she's wrong before it gets old.
Thanks. ^^ I will~
Pata rules.
アーム使ってるのか。エフェクターの問題じゃなかった笑
@palkiasmaster235
Sugizo's just not interested in conventional guitar playing -shrug- he's into expressive & experimental stuff.
I also find it amusing :]
@visualrocker69 sugizo dont impress me i saw some of his solos with luna sea and they dont are such an awesome thing anyway if you have some videos of an awesome solo by sugizo i appreciate if you show them to me
@xXDARKYOSHIKIXx now that i know a lot of things about guitar i wonder why everyone is saying that hide is a bad player i mean he can do pinch harmonics in her solos he can shred he can do tapping but in her solos he never shows all of his skills and sugizo is like kirk hammet just a lot of effects
石塚先生の、鳴ってる感、凄い。
先生、カッコイイ！
@PIXUTUS
I agree with you, it's sad.. take the Love Replica part at the end '6:17'
they are totally out of sync playing together. And the worst thing is, it looks like they don't even care ...
anyone please what song tht they play at the end? i forgot tht song name
I KNEW you'd say I'm wrong, but I'm not. Skill level is NOT an opinion.
@Kougasomoi Well, Taiji was a much better bassist, and, if I'm not mistaken, there was a sort of Taiji/Heath bass battle at Yokohama. (I heard this from a Japanese guy who went; unfortunately, I couldn't. T________T) Heath was destroyed. I don't think it's necessarily that the bassists are not represented enough, it's just I think it would be embarrassing for X Japan to represent Heath like that.
never seen pata shred like that before. haha
best heath
エフェクターじゃないすか？
石塚大先生､いぶし銀
Pata reminds me of Kirk Hammett,,especially the curly hair..
Sorry for my lack of knowledge, but who is who in this video?
Pata, Sugizo and Heath of X JAPAN
自分はTAIJIよりHEATHの方がよっぽど好き！
On bass HEATH！！！！
なんでTAIJIを引き合いに出すの？TAIJIを好きな人がどう思うかとか考えないの？
ぼくはタイジ ヒース どっちも好き！
いやTAIJI🎸でしょ
好きなものを肯定する為に、誰かを引き合いにするのはどうかと思う。
そんなことを言われてHEATHが喜ぶとも思わない。
4年前のコメントにマジレスするって君やばいね
Wow Heath is really good. X Japan wouldn't be the same without him :)
HEATH!!!!!!!
No, a level of technical ability is not an opinion. Heath can't play bass like Taiji could; that's a fact. Now, whether you think he's a better musician or has better solos all around is your opinion, and I will respect that opinion (because I don't think he's a bad musician), even though I don't agree with it. ^^
It would embarrass him because TAIJI was a much better bassist, and it would be clear that Yoshiki would take someone worse if it precluded any arguments to what he wants.
KoreaxxLove I agree.
ツインギターのハモリは当時の様にHIDEサウンドの方がしっくりくる感じ
It would be embarrassing for Yoshiki to release any footage of their replacement bassist getting destroyed by someone many believe Yoshiki kicked from the band.
Heath's bass solos are entertaining, and I do enjoy that particular one, but when it comes to skill, Taiji wiped the floor with him.
この頃の、SUGIZOさん‥！若いね！！～裸‥！同然ですからね～喜ぶ🎵人も、余り‥！じゃ無い人達も、("⌒∇⌒")😀‥！ ギター🎸🎸🎸ソロ‥！面白いですからね～それぞれの"個性的な⁉️ですよ！！～ギター🎸も、高価な物を仕様する"Pataさん‥！ 高値では無い物ですが、個性的な物(インパクト有りの)SUGIZOさん‥！等々が‥！？。
Sugizo Lo Massss😍😍😍😘😘
SUＧIZOがHIDEそのものに見えます🎼🎸
SUGIZOのギターレベルとHIDEのレベルは申し訳ないけど段違い。
SUGIZOのほうがはるかに上手いですよ。
HIDEのギターはHIDEしにか醸し出せない味があるけど、決して上手くはないです。
だからSUGIZOがHIDEそのものに見えるなんてちょっと有り得ないし、
なんでもHIDEと被せるのはどうかと思う。
2人は全く別人だもの。
@visualrocker69 yeah it sounds good anyway x solo is not that hard i want to see something awesome from him
and a guitar solo shows all the skill and style of the player but like in this solo i only see a overused whammy bar look at pata he is doing a good blues but sugizo i dont know if he is playing with all his skills
パタりんはハゲじゃない(´・ω・｀)
PATAさんはLed Zeppelinのジミー・ペイジ氏の影響を受けたギタリストとして有名だが、🎸プレイスタイルは全く異なる。
テクニックでは恐らく、ジミー氏よりも遥かに上のPATAさん🎸普通ならそんなジミー氏を貶す筈なのに、彼を尊敬しているPATAさんの懐の深さも魅力的♡ 其れに多分SUGIZO＜PATAの技術だな‼️💪🏻
テクニックが上だから貶すは臭
Different levels of technical ability--that's a comparison.
TAIJI was better. Heath isn't a great bassist. He's an okay bassist--nothing more, nothing less (as far as his work with X goes). Now, some of his compositions outside of X (not challenging), but beautiful to the ears.
KoreaxxLove Their styles are worlds apart. Taiji loved to show off his fine skills with his crazy out of whack style. Heath is strictly orthodox in style and doesn't go outside that realm. I'm sure he can if he wanted to, but it just would be Heath. I do quite miss his solo work...
No, Taiji was much more of a bassist than Heath--which is exactly why Sugizo bowed down to him. Taiji's level of skill far surpassed Heath's.
4 fans of Justin Bieber -.-
I can´t hear Sugizo´s solo over that awfull amount of delay. Same for Heath and his dist... Pata in the other hand had an awesome tone on this concert. Maybe it´s the natural reverb on the stage...
"You can only tell someone she's WRONG before it gets old."
"Yeah I know..."
What do you think that implies?
You are wrong if you say Heath is more skilled on bass. If you think his compositions are better--that's an opinion. But, the skill required to play bass like Taiji is much higher than to play like Heath. I'm aware skill isn't everything, but it's still not an opinion.
All this conversation on these yokohama concerts just proved that X is a fangirl/boy-band. So much talk, so little knowlegde. CLOSE YOUR EYES, FORGET WHO'S PLAYING AND LISTEN. I hate it when they can be crap but still millions of people are saying things like "the two most techincal and amazing players in the world
なんだこれ？
REALLY ? LMAO
The way your construing your sentence doesn't even fit the context. That's a really awkward reply. Anyone would misconstrue that.
That's interesting. Since you're debating back with me, I assume your daughter is more mature than you, too?
Of course I'm going to tell you that you're wrong. You keep insisting that it's your opinion Heath is more skilled, and that's not an opinion. That statement is just a flat-out lie.
まぁ、割と雑音にしか聞こえない。
一般人の僕には
i think this is quite boring :|
ベースはTAIJIだろ
ガチアンチ TH-camr
久しぶりに吉野家行ったわ
ガチアンチ TH-camr
え？誤字があったので編集しただけですけど
喧嘩腰なのはそちらではないでしょうか？
ch Muscle
喧嘩腰なのはあなたですよ？
認めようねぇ
ch Muscle
誤字があっただけで文面自体を変えるとはどうゆうことですか？
ガチアンチ TH-camr
なんか絡んでも面白くないからやめよっと
ばいばーい！！
Actually PATA is not that good..
Oh my god that was rubbish!
damn I can't stand sugizo. The guy knows 1 scale and pulls his whammy bar,
he puts up nothing more than a show but I guess that's what the fans want......
His sound does fit him perfectly: artificial, fake and .... crappy hah
HEATH!!!!!!!!!!