Analog is superior for range reliability penetration it’s nemesis is interference. Digital can transmit faster and more data but it works on error rates and compensates for dead data files digital will never be as good as analog could be if there is no interference. All we need to do is shut down all airports any military radio, cb and walkie-talkie and any Wi-Fi close to 2.4ghz and we won’t need hd lol
Digital doesn’t transmit faster than Analog? Who told you this nonsense? Analog super low latency is the reason why people still fly Analog as a pose making the transition over to digital. 🤷🏻♂️💯👍
@@peteroman4297 "super low latency" but a frame rate of 60hz interlaced, thats a frame time of 17ms in addition to the camera and goggle which can add another 50ms. analog is not as fast as you think.
@@drkastenbrot ok. Now I understand what you mean. When you first commented on digital being “Low Latency” I was like “WWWWHHHHAAAATTTT”? But I get what you mean. 👍
You'll have a lot more "wow" reaction on a sunny day with some color and more detail in the environment. Also, crank the camera saturation up to 6 or 7 - this is going to be the new default because it compares to analog camera's super-high saturation and really pops - it's like a fruit salad for your eyeballs!
Yeah, really hoping HDzero can take off and remain open to the community. really appreciate the efforts Carl is putting into this. will be ordering the goggles asap.
Were not on the same level regarding the video quality but i really love your paintroller mic stand 😝 nice and honest video bot, I'm looking forward for some long range hdzero video's 😍
i guess you need to adjust the focus of the camera and set it to 4:3 wich is better for freestyle anyway ... my video looks better, got the same setup...
@@BOTGRINDER Oh i know. But some people actually do tho.. Then they tell you to watch it on the smallest screen possible, and kinda squint, and don't look directly at it.. lol!
I went with DJI back when I was moving up from box goggles, before HDZero was really a thing... DJI still has the best video quality but I sure don't love them. HDZero still has a while to come up, so maybe in the future if DJI ever does ditch us completely, then it will be the move. Either way I also want to see them succeed especially if they want to build an open system.
the advantage of hdzero was the fixed latency, and also the amont of bandwidth it uses, same as anologue so can fly upto 8 pilots at same time. ive also noticed some peoples hdzero looks better than others. a few the video looks out of focus and some super sharp, duno if maybe some cameras are just bad
I thing HDZero is only for FPV Racer. Bad range with allowed 25mW in EU. DJI FPV is still the best BNF system for a beginner or freestyler, long range drone. Maybee in 1 year we have another situation and HDZero have better "easy to use" FPV system with a available HDZero goggles.
Dude you crack me the fuck up im new to droning, i fucked up and spent 1500 on a dji fpv with all the Accessories. 3 weeks in youtubing and you poped into my feed. I need to build my own. Your the only REAL DRONER ive watched. Great show
I like your videos dude. Music is sick, the honesty in you is refreshing to hear. I'm not even an FPV pilot YET, but I got my simulator and a radio so I'm on my way. While I learn to fly, I listen to your videos and learn about what's going to work for me, before I spend ridiculous amounts of money on the hobby. Keep on grinding buddy, keep us up to date on FPV.
I could be wrong, but it looks like you have the goggle module in 16:9 and the camera in 4:3? I did this with my first HDZero build and the image looked stretched and the clarity wasn't there. I actually run the Scout HD Goggles, so it could be different with the module. I love my HDZero, I know DJI video is excellent, but I can't give them my money. BTW, I now fly in 4:3, the clarity seems better and I like that vertical field of view.
I will say, while an annoying company. I enjoy their FPV Scout analog model. It's a nice set of goggles - though i believe it's just a rebranded generic from China. It's a nice build regardless. For a beginner like myself - it's got everything i need.
I like your footage. Nice style and music. Just from watching the posts on analog and HDZero, the HDZero looks substantial better. I agree it is less digital like DJI. They say it is partly due to the cameras. The DJI Camera is just better. DJI with Polar or Phoenix HD is also not that great.
It’s cloudy outside so video looks a bit dull.When sun pops out it will look much much better.Sunlight is needed for HDZero to brighten up and get rid of the dull look.
I feel the same about it. Looks like a good analog setup to me. I got setups with a Unify and a good camera that are very close to HDzero with analog. I was expecting more and hopefully it will get better
@@fearlessflyersfpv420 it’s amazing how clear it is! The 1w+ is fantastic, but I’ll be honest I’m on 25mw most of the time and still amazed at the clarity even at distance!
@@HeavyPick Interesting, just got it all installed properly unlocked and all, and its inferior by far as I can see so far, compared to a Mamba 1000MW VTX. It has much less breakup in the same spots it seems. 20$ cheaper too!
Looks clear but do you always gotta wear all that shit on your head?! I asked what was the best when I started and almost everyone said digital.....so that's all I know..your freestyle has gotten so good botgrinder
@botgrinder rewatching this and I think your leveling up with the new frame. I could be wrong. My wife tells me I’m wrong 3x a day. I think she’s wrong but now it’s 4x that I’m wrong. But seriously I think your flying is even better now.
"F*** dude! chill out and stay on topic" he typed as his rented sex worker pushed the pog tube deeper inside his sweating man cave, "fuuck thats too much" Snakkerz003 cried out as one of the metal slammers fell deep inside of his body. "put on the gop national convention" he grunted out inbetween thrusts. "turn it up im going to blow" he proclaimed as Americas favorite mayor appeared on screen. 2 years ago Snakkerz003 had attended the peaceful protest at the capitol back and in a heated moment had discovered the forbidden pleasure of his fellow man inside of him, right there in damn pelosis office him and earl had done the unthinkable, he can still feel the Tabaco stained hair from earls lips brushing up against little Snakkerz003, it was new and exciting but after the protest earl had wanted nothing to do with Snakkerz003, leaving him feeling sad and lost. Snakkerz003 discovered "patriots for patriots" online, a dating site for middle aged men such as himself looking to relive the excitement of that fateful day. after a few back ally hookups that left him feeling even more lonely Snakkerz003 had noticed a young patriot by the name of ben on the site and took quite a fancy to him, after a few message and revealing photo exchanges ben and Snakkerz003 decided to meet up in person and play some games. back to the present with bens childhood pog tube deep inside Snakkerz003, he couldnt help but think back to earl and wonder if he ever stares at old glory the same time as Snakkerz003 and thinks about him...
Been having massive headaches recently and been doing some pressure point tension relief, like pushing pressure on my third eye etc... Only to find out that the weed I'm smoking has side effect of headaches... Like FFS, I've never smoked a headache inducing weed before... kinda counter intuitive. If you read this far, I RECENTLY DID MY FIRST FLIP AND WAS SO STOKED!
I have a 5" freestyle VRX build...you will see some crazy ass rainbow screen breakup when you get into multipathing environment. I have lost video within 100 yards...it will pucker you up when you can't see shit. DJI hands down has better penetration in bandos.
maybe the fov made it harder to notice the detail bump? runcams like the split were 16-9 and 165deg????? so maybe look for a 4-3 cam to notice the bump.
Analog is better for long range but since I switched to dji goggles I whould never change back especially cause with my eye problems I can’t find any lents for small goggles like your one in the video Never saw so clear in my fpv experience 😂🤘🏻
can't wait till my kids can drive my rigs without taking my ankles out while flying. not trusting them with 6s and my MT 410 while I chase... but can't wait :)
For #1 fuck DJI! Nope never!! Die hard analog is how I roll. But!!! These new hdzero goggles coming are gonna be very bad ass!! Im saving now and very good chance I'll get those and switch my two 5in over to hdzero. Carl is a very cool dude and listens to what we need! finger's crossed is gonna be as good as stated! Great vid bot mister 💪🤜
open source is the future....bottom line. and yo bot, im always surprised how bad your sharkbyte/hdzero footage looks....I feel like the footage I see in my cameras looks waaaaaay better. not sure why that is...maybe just the DVR footage??? btw once again....killin it with the music brotha!
@@BOTGRINDER well to be fair I have never tried the 4:3 camera personally only the older cams and the one that comes on the mob 7 hdzero but I have always been happy with the camera quality as we all know it’s not dji but again as we all know much cooler company with more love to offer! Seriously though I’m not just saying because I want to see hdzero succeed in this business. It does look good for what it is. I’m working on my 5inch right now where I printed up the case for the original runcam HD and put the caddx 1.66 lense on it Ala Ryan Quellet. I mean yeah the system behaves like analogue but the quality to me is night and day… anyways. Thanks again for the video brotha! I always get a good laugh and a half out of them, and we all know that’s the best Medicine! Cheers.
Fun review video. I fly analog, dji and I'm building a long range HD zero cruiser. Looking forward to two things, HD zero goggles and your colab frame with Tommy aka Ummagawd. 🖕💖😎
Hd zero I think is bit better that analog….nothin more We’ll se with the hd fatshark system if it is a game changer I got both analog and dji and still prefer analog 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Still making the best content on TH-cam! Great stuff. And that's how to dance to that tune. I knew I was close. ☺ (oh, and I'm still analogue the whole way)
Show us your analog that's almost as good as HDZero. I must be doing something wrong with my analog, as it looks like shit compared to my HDZero. That low latency though, you don't get that with any other digital video system...
Analog is superior for range reliability penetration it’s nemesis is interference. Digital can transmit faster and more data but it works on error rates and compensates for dead data files digital will never be as good as analog could be if there is no interference. All we need to do is shut down all airports any military radio, cb and walkie-talkie and any Wi-Fi close to 2.4ghz and we won’t need hd lol
The great thing is you don’t have to worry about little black lines, and system noise unless it’s really bad for some reason
Digital doesn’t transmit faster than Analog? Who told you this nonsense? Analog super low latency is the reason why people still fly Analog as a pose making the transition over to digital. 🤷🏻♂️💯👍
@@peteroman4297 "super low latency" but a frame rate of 60hz interlaced, thats a frame time of 17ms in addition to the camera and goggle which can add another 50ms. analog is not as fast as you think.
@@drkastenbrot ok. Now I understand what you mean. When you first commented on digital being “Low Latency” I was like “WWWWHHHHAAAATTTT”? But I get what you mean. 👍
I love analog really! Period 🤜
It's got loads of potential. Just gonna take time I think 🤔 I'm holding out for the goggles rather than buying the module .
You'll have a lot more "wow" reaction on a sunny day with some color and more detail in the environment. Also, crank the camera saturation up to 6 or 7 - this is going to be the new default because it compares to analog camera's super-high saturation and really pops - it's like a fruit salad for your eyeballs!
Lol, fruit salad in your eyeballs...can we soak it in vodka 1st, 😜
I hate fruit salad tho
@@user-yk1cw8im4h it'll look like Walt Disney threw up on a sunny day!😜
Ryan, your uploaded video was so much HD lik compared to bots. So all this can be fixed by correct setup?
@@jeffclassics I use nicer camera settings and I fly in more visually appealing locations and times of day
“Blah blah Anarchy and shit!” -Drone Jesus
Yeah, really hoping HDzero can take off and remain open to the community.
really appreciate the efforts Carl is putting into this.
will be ordering the goggles asap.
Waiting for the goggles to come out - then I might build an HDZero freestyle quad 🤷🏻♂️ Otherwise, ANALog fo life 🤙🏻
Were not on the same level regarding the video quality but i really love your paintroller mic stand 😝 nice and honest video bot, I'm looking forward for some long range hdzero video's 😍
My favorite sources for hdzero info:
th-cam.com/users/ATXAirborne
th-cam.com/video/4hXXk6XnG0Q/w-d-xo.html
Where to buy hdzero: fpvexchange.com
i guess you need to adjust the focus of the camera and set it to 4:3 wich is better for freestyle anyway ... my video looks better, got the same setup...
Finally an honest view of this system. I never thought it looked very good either. Not even close to dji hd.
I would never compare it to dji, just analog
@@BOTGRINDER Oh i know. But some people actually do tho.. Then they tell you to watch it on the smallest screen possible, and kinda squint, and don't look directly at it.. lol!
@@JP-qq2kn haha
My caddx vista runcam hd barely looks better than my foxeer razer mini on analog 😎🤙
I went with DJI back when I was moving up from box goggles, before HDZero was really a thing... DJI still has the best video quality but I sure don't love them. HDZero still has a while to come up, so maybe in the future if DJI ever does ditch us completely, then it will be the move. Either way I also want to see them succeed especially if they want to build an open system.
I think what you're seeing is poor, very flat lighting "enhanced" by rain. I'm not so sure if it reflects the gear.
I agree, part two in the sun coming up.
the advantage of hdzero was the fixed latency, and also the amont of bandwidth it uses, same as anologue so can fly upto 8 pilots at same time.
ive also noticed some peoples hdzero looks better than others. a few the video looks out of focus and some super sharp, duno if maybe some cameras are just bad
I thing HDZero is only for FPV Racer. Bad range with allowed 25mW in EU. DJI FPV is still the best BNF system for a beginner or freestyler, long range drone. Maybee in 1 year we have another situation and HDZero have better "easy to use" FPV system with a available HDZero goggles.
Awesome video Bot! Can't wait what the future of HDZero will bring!!! Awesome what they are doing and listening to the community!
🤖 always speaks the truth!
Dude you crack me the fuck up im new to droning, i fucked up and spent 1500 on a dji fpv with all the Accessories. 3 weeks in youtubing and you poped into my feed. I need to build my own. Your the only REAL DRONER ive watched. Great show
I like your videos dude. Music is sick, the honesty in you is refreshing to hear. I'm not even an FPV pilot YET, but I got my simulator and a radio so I'm on my way. While I learn to fly, I listen to your videos and learn about what's going to work for me, before I spend ridiculous amounts of money on the hobby. Keep on grinding buddy, keep us up to date on FPV.
I could be wrong, but it looks like you have the goggle module in 16:9 and the camera in 4:3? I did this with my first HDZero build and the image looked stretched and the clarity wasn't there. I actually run the Scout HD Goggles, so it could be different with the module. I love my HDZero, I know DJI video is excellent, but I can't give them my money. BTW, I now fly in 4:3, the clarity seems better and I like that vertical field of view.
bro i bet thats exactly what it is, ill check my settings later.
@@BOTGRINDER 🤣
I will say, while an annoying company. I enjoy their FPV Scout analog model. It's a nice set of goggles - though i believe it's just a rebranded generic from China. It's a nice build regardless. For a beginner like myself - it's got everything i need.
I like your footage. Nice style and music.
Just from watching the posts on analog and HDZero, the HDZero looks substantial better. I agree it is less digital like DJI. They say it is partly due to the cameras. The DJI Camera is just better. DJI with Polar or Phoenix HD is also not that great.
I discovered that maybe the cable linked between the Goggles and the HDZero Module has something to do with quality as well.
this looks a bit worse then my Eachine EV300o's...
but with pixels.
meh.....
mines fucked.. I feel like the orqa hdmi port introduces too much latency. Was yours stuttery/delayed or hard to rip with?
Excellent review bro! Most honest opinion I've seen. And also f*** DJi plus fatshark.
You are becoming wise and reasonable... Keep it up! HDZero will become better and better. There is room for improvment.
It’s cloudy outside so video looks a bit dull.When sun pops out it will look much much better.Sunlight is needed for HDZero to brighten up and get rid of the dull look.
color looks kinda flat,, no pop. But I like it. Btw my FatStrap Orqa Goggles say Fk Fatsharks.
Nice you got the FalconRad frame built!!!
yeah and its pretty damn nice!
@@BOTGRINDER he is something!!
Hey. You can't be stoned on you tube. They restrict my cannabis viewing vids, WTF.
I've been thinking about trying HDZero for long range FPV. Alright got my morning coffee, all set, can't wait to see what you get up to this time!
This is stock bf 4.2 tune lol and it flys great, motors barely warm.
Hdzer is technically digital but I agree that it really just looks like good analog. It's definitely not high quality digital.
Slightly better than analog 🙄 im still amazed by the quality and i flew several years analog. He probably needs glasses anyway
I like the way you talk. Also, really dig the trans pride flag patch antenna.
Where did you get that?
Never even looked in a pair of FatSharks. Been SkyZone since day 1.
Screw the review - LETS TALK ABOUT IZZY'S LED's 😍
oo boi... man i gotta get back to being my fpv self life gets busy tiny drone are fun anytime tho
Try the digisight v3 with starlight lens. You’ll have a different point of view
Great video & thanks for the ink to print hdzero mount. Awesome
"I'm not going to put it on my freestyle quads or anything" hehe...
You said what was on your mind, "good analog", and it is quite concise and accurate.
I feel the same about it. Looks like a good analog setup to me. I got setups with a Unify and a good camera that are very close to HDzero with analog. I was expecting more and hopefully it will get better
In my opinion, Foxeer T-rex + TBS Unify Pro32 HV = About the same as HDZero
@@HeavyPick facts
@@HeavyPick just bought a unify pro 32 HV to go with one of my Foxeer T-rex cams :)
@@fearlessflyersfpv420 it’s amazing how clear it is! The 1w+ is fantastic, but I’ll be honest I’m on 25mw most of the time and still amazed at the clarity even at distance!
@@HeavyPick Interesting, just got it all installed properly unlocked and all, and its inferior by far as I can see so far, compared to a Mamba 1000MW VTX. It has much less breakup in the same spots it seems. 20$ cheaper too!
:) Fukin love ya mate !!!!! One day we will get to you!!!! ;)
9:24 was that the famous duck fart move that you coined? lol
You Crack me up bro , like what your doin keep doin it!
Looks clear but do you always gotta wear all that shit on your head?! I asked what was the best when I started and almost everyone said digital.....so that's all I know..your freestyle has gotten so good botgrinder
Nah people have way more streamlined set ups haha
Can someone please tell me the song in the intro? Or is it something unreleased?
Yes Then. Cool shirt. Punk from the UK. 👊
Sick video, you made RC trucks look cool 🤘😎👹
Hdzero looks alot better than analog in the goggles
Them slomos are so sick
HDZero! One big zero! Ripped me off!
It rained a lot
Juicy spot, where is this? Local to Philly?
@botgrinder rewatching this and I think your leveling up with the new frame. I could be wrong. My wife tells me I’m wrong 3x a day. I think she’s wrong but now it’s 4x that I’m wrong. But seriously I think your flying is even better now.
Is this one of those 'don't do crack' spokespeople videos?
F*** Dude! Chill out and stay on topic
"F*** dude! chill out and stay on topic" he typed as his rented sex worker pushed the pog tube deeper inside his sweating man cave, "fuuck thats too much" Snakkerz003 cried out as one of the metal slammers fell deep inside of his body. "put on the gop national convention" he grunted out inbetween thrusts. "turn it up im going to blow" he proclaimed as Americas favorite mayor appeared on screen.
2 years ago Snakkerz003 had attended the peaceful protest at the capitol back and in a heated moment had discovered the forbidden pleasure of his fellow man inside of him, right there in damn pelosis office him and earl had done the unthinkable, he can still feel the Tabaco stained hair from earls lips brushing up against little Snakkerz003, it was new and exciting but after the protest earl had wanted nothing to do with Snakkerz003, leaving him feeling sad and lost.
Snakkerz003 discovered "patriots for patriots" online, a dating site for middle aged men such as himself looking to relive the excitement of that fateful day. after a few back ally hookups that left him feeling even more lonely Snakkerz003 had noticed a young patriot by the name of ben on the site and took quite a fancy to him, after a few message and revealing photo exchanges ben and Snakkerz003 decided to meet up in person and play some games.
back to the present with bens childhood pog tube deep inside Snakkerz003, he couldnt help but think back to earl and wonder if he ever stares at old glory the same time as Snakkerz003 and thinks about him...
Been having massive headaches recently and been doing some pressure point tension relief, like pushing pressure on my third eye etc...
Only to find out that the weed I'm smoking has side effect of headaches...
Like FFS, I've never smoked a headache inducing weed before... kinda counter intuitive.
If you read this far, I RECENTLY DID MY FIRST FLIP AND WAS SO STOKED!
Why do you have an entena covered with the 41 percenter flag my guy? You used to be cool...
This is the trans pride flag.
lol literally down the street from me lets shred sometime
Hey men great video cool men thank u.
Whos the hot chic with bassy voice? 😅
I have a 5" freestyle VRX build...you will see some crazy ass rainbow screen breakup when you get into multipathing environment. I have lost video within 100 yards...it will pucker you up when you can't see shit. DJI hands down has better penetration in bandos.
Awesome Bots. Yeah Hd zero ain’t that bad . In time it will get better for sure👊🏻👊🏻🤙🏼
Good video. Who cares what people say
maybe the fov made it harder to notice the detail bump? runcams like the split were 16-9 and 165deg????? so maybe look for a 4-3 cam to notice the bump.
My bad guy lmao 🤣
8:47 that was sick!!
Analog is better for long range but since I switched to dji goggles I whould never change back especially cause with my eye problems I can’t find any lents for small goggles like your one in the video
Never saw so clear in my fpv experience 😂🤘🏻
can't wait till my kids can drive my rigs without taking my ankles out while flying.
not trusting them with 6s and my MT 410 while I chase...
but can't wait :)
Momma whts thats terra red momma ! Lol
*than
Man... I wish I knew 6 months ago how fucked Fat Shark would be smh. Noob shit happens I guess 🤷♂️. Looking to Carl for my next set of goggles
Still liking the video quality of my analog 300os maybe upgrade later.
For #1 fuck DJI! Nope never!! Die hard analog is how I roll. But!!! These new hdzero goggles coming are gonna be very bad ass!! Im saving now and very good chance I'll get those and switch my two 5in over to hdzero. Carl is a very cool dude and listens to what we need! finger's crossed is gonna be as good as stated! Great vid bot mister 💪🤜
open source is the future....bottom line. and yo bot, im always surprised how bad your sharkbyte/hdzero footage looks....I feel like the footage I see in my cameras looks waaaaaay better. not sure why that is...maybe just the DVR footage??? btw once again....killin it with the music brotha!
Someone had mentioned im doing the aspect ratio wrong which makes sense.
@@BOTGRINDER well to be fair I have never tried the 4:3 camera personally only the older cams and the one that comes on the mob 7 hdzero but I have always been happy with the camera quality as we all know it’s not dji but again as we all know much cooler company with more love to offer! Seriously though I’m not just saying because I want to see hdzero succeed in this business. It does look good for what it is. I’m working on my 5inch right now where I printed up the case for the original runcam HD and put the caddx 1.66 lense on it Ala Ryan Quellet. I mean yeah the system behaves like analogue but the quality to me is night and day… anyways. Thanks again for the video brotha! I always get a good laugh and a half out of them, and we all know that’s the best Medicine! Cheers.
@@devilsadvocate6989 thanks for watchin!
Looking like Adam 22
Better than not then Botski !
Fuck man I love you !!!
Nice… Danny brown
did you focus the cam?
Still shit.. I ll stay with DJI
YAYY
That's what she said!
Fun review video. I fly analog, dji and I'm building a long range HD zero cruiser. Looking forward to two things, HD zero goggles and your colab frame with Tommy aka Ummagawd. 🖕💖😎
Let me get a burrito
I'm staying with analog until I can go full digital. Good video Bot!
I thought all the smoke would come from the hard core HDZero crew, but NO, it was TinyDriver with ALL the smoke. Legit!
Hd zero I think is bit better that analog….nothin more
We’ll se with the hd fatshark system if it is a game changer
I got both analog and dji and still prefer analog 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I love your fuggin vlogs bro. Not many keepin it real!
nice shirt! \m/
awesome
Still making the best content on TH-cam! Great stuff. And that's how to dance to that tune. I knew I was close. ☺ (oh, and I'm still analogue the whole way)
Show us your analog that's almost as good as HDZero. I must be doing something wrong with my analog, as it looks like shit compared to my HDZero. That low latency though, you don't get that with any other digital video system...
bit.ly/3NKbTqH this was what i was thinking of when i made that comment.
@@BOTGRINDER Thanks for replying dude. That is good analog, to be fair, but it is line of sight high output, so it should be ;-)
@@BOTGRINDER i think from analog's DVR that you linked, there not even a comparison.Anyway everyone can have their own opinions...
Did that kid get sucked into a vortex or something? He walked behind you then disappeared lol.
this makes me happy since youre literally across the street form sleepy joes house like walking distance and they cant do shit about this haha
haha yeah a security guard informed us of that, no one cared.
@@BOTGRINDER lmfao hell yea
Thanks for sharing
I hope after a few years hd0 or openhd to become as ELRS is now( the same price or close to analog and available for everyone)
My opinion is almost the same as yours. I like the onnest review and the fckn nice build. Freaking clean 👌
Love the Botgrinder dance at the end.....😂👌
ive got internet again. love you bot! keep up the great content
Welcome back!