Defending India - the state of our affairs || Abhijit Iyer-Mitra
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- Shri Abhijt Iyer Mitra presents an eye-opening critique of the state of our nation. He lays bare hard hitting numbers on various aspects such as education, health, defence etc. This talk is certainly an reality check to who imagine rapid development and growth of India in the near future.
Mr. Iyer-Mitra is a Senior Fellow at the Institute of Peace and Conflict Studies. He is also a noted columnist and a commentator on various media platforms.
Also visit our page for his other videos on Foreign Policy.
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On a lighter note, Abhijit just motivated a lot more IITians to take up GRE and GMAT.
@जय भोलेनाथ जय भोलेनाथ Yeah, let the Indian taxpayers fund the brown boys to go become part of white man's country.
@जय भोलेनाथ जय भोलेनाथ oh so what? How is that an excuse to waste tax-payers money?
I bet if there was no reservation, all the upper middle class boys(which are the one who clear Advanced the most) will run to american the first moment they'll get. Reservation isn't the problem here.
@The Emerald tu ja goro ki chaat jaake shithole me ham log khush hai
Yeah XDXD
@@Anskurshaikh sad truth
The first step to addressing a problem is to know it exists. Amazing talk sir.
He is overstating things and hand picking the stats. His views on the stunted people of Bihar is not correct. Bihari people are quite healthy. They have cows in their home and they drink pure milk. Govt. doesn't have the real data on who owns how many cows or small farms. Govt. only keeps track of bigger dairy farms. So the data Abhijit is presenting is a reduced version.
Poor people do exist in India. They mostly live in the tribal belts and in the slum areas. The rural population is usually well fed in general.
He is talking about traffic jams, food wastage in cold storage etc. The same happens at much larger scale in US and China. China has the highest traffic jam.
Indian engineers mostly work in Western companies, and they solve problems quite well. Abhijit is merely scaring the freshers. Freshers are same all over the world. Even the graduation topper from MIT, doens't become a coding ninja or the machine-man, on the very first day after his/her graduation. Engineering is something which you learn from other engineers - it can not be learnt at any university. What you can learn at the university is, how to do the Math. While doing the Math at university, you don't really need a live reactor before you. You can always imagine the reactor.
@@coolfreaks68 simple question. If Indians are equal to Westerners then we should have 1/6th of all engineers as indian, 1/6th of all doctors, scientists, entrepreneurs, athletes, musicians, painters, everything.
Instead we see one in a million Indians succed globally and try to borrow their accolades to feel better. Is that fair?
Background to the lecture: The permission for this event got rescinded at the 11th hour. The venue had to be shifted from a state-of-the art-auditorium (capacity: 2500) to a much smaller venue (capacity: 50). Yet, Abhijit stood with us through out the ordeal and was even prepared to deliver a talk "under a banyan tree". We acknowledge his support in ensuring we could hold the talk despite the opposition. We apologise for the drop in our production quality and promise to make up for it soon!
Please check out our previous event with Adv. J. Sai Deepak on our event production: th-cam.com/video/cyKMlNFo88c/w-d-xo.html
I wouldn't be surprised if opposition to this talk came from BJP insiders. For shame.
Those 50 people who got in are very lucky
Its so sad that this video is having only 35k views.Shame. Every indian should watch this video & know wtf is up 😔😔
@@ak20107 Nope. It was the loser Left who can't handle facts
I wonder why 😂.
The lecture is very informative with stats. This is what we need. It is food for thought. Mentioning South Africa is important. This is the core point in disparity of wealth and income.
Keep going Mr Iyer. Your surname is intriguing
South and Bengal- a winning combination
Don't be racist
@@debayanbasu8964 cherishing diversity is not racist dude
@@debayanbasu8964 How in the world is that racist? Is throwing buzzwords your only skill?
@@rawadosa90210 hasty Bengalis are always losers
You are always a treat to hear....hope the Government takes a note of you and make you their advisor
This guy is amazing.. if only the government had his insights..
government knows but they still want votes and so the marketing and p.r slogans will continue instead of concrete action.
Talking and giving advice is very easy, performing and governing are difficult. In governance one has to take all stake holders together, there are always conflicts within the democratic society. The democratic government always runs on balancing these conflicts. They cannot take any one side. If the goes populist the country goes bankrupt like Russia, Venezuela. If they drift towards right riches come in but the disparity increases. He is intelligent.
Bada hua to kya hua
Jaise ped khajur
Naa rahi ko chhaya mile, fal laage atee dur.
BJP is a lame ass party which never learns and dont have much political acumen. Hindus and nationalistic folks are stuck with BJP as option.
Govt probably knows the situation better than this guy,he is gud but might not have all information, there are things that are confidential and. Secret, that need to be kept that way.
@@krishna_o15
Agree and the numbers/elections results also corroborate that don't they :D
Best slap on the face of IIT’s(offcourse apart from perpetual slaps during the presentation).....97% think I am in the remaining 3% 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤫🤫🤫🤫, so true .....IT’sNOT ME !!
All the talk was absolutely refreshing and informative HOWEVER I am extremely surprised and disappointed that the audience, if i'm not wrong were from IIT, had no idea what strategic autonomy was and he had to explain State Monopoly on Violence to some! Both are common knowledge. I hope the new education policy is implemented ASAP because now i am convinced that India is producing manure instead of cream! I am utterly scared for the future if this is what IIT's are producing, i swear!
@Invictus Maneo Yet another example of the kind of geniuses being produced. No sense of nuance or understanding the value of constructive criticism. You're entitled to your belief that the education system is perfect & producing the crème de la crème, but I am not of that opinion. So let's agree to disagree!
@Invictus Maneo Ughhh! Dude, seriously?! Get a life! Get laid or something ffs!
Yes the quality of iitians is reducing indeed
@Kim Evangela theyre only the few exceptions who made something great of themself, and thattoo they woudnt have known anything until they would have started working after graduating from iit. Plus, they are like the other causuals who have betrayed their country to satisfy themselves in the land of the whitey tighties.
I am an IITian and me and my friends are working on bringing state of the art technology to the world. Forming such a silly incorrect opinion over such a trivial thing is really dumb. As the lady said, so many of us are leading great companies. Arvind Krishna and Narayanmurthy graduated from my very own alma mater. The problem with India is all of us eventually move out to USA and only manure remains in this country. Still, you will find IAS officers and entrepreneurs in India are mostly IITians. Be worried for your own future and stop unnecessarily smarting over people who are much smarter than you. How can a mouse like yourself judge a giraffe?
One IITian, khujlibal got into politics and all went chaotic. Let them do their work Abhijit Ji....😁🙏
Hahaha 😂
I passed out from IIT. Economics and related subjects were not popular. That is the reason why interaction with this audience is limited. Mr Iyer is speaking to Bengalis or people from the east hence the term Punjabised will not be taken badly
Dude forget about "Economics & Related subjects(?)", they were not even aware of general knowledge terms or their meaning. Clearly it is not the fault of the students but this means India needs to re-assess what IIT's are producing. Interaction was not limited, there was a complete disconnect!
@@amitexo IIT Madras tutors replied to central Govt. authorities by saying that : " Our students are not capable or do not hold the proficiency to filter out the Cooum River....". It was published in the Hindu or Times of India around 2014 -15. Context : State/District Govt. requests/gives a project to IIT for employing their best Environmental / Civil Engineers to conceptually model a filtration system/construct for effectively removing effluents from the seriously poisoned Cooum waters. The reply was as above. Wordings may have been more but I put it concisely.
If every 60+ woman is mother of india abhijith is my son too god bless you to lead young minds to take small steps towards highly evolved thinking community of india
Mr Abhijit Iyer Mitra is very intellectual but he is not presentable and articulative person. He is one of those genius persons who have good ideas but gets ignored by authority or government simply because his method of communication is not constructive. Perhaps Its lack of leadership quality in him which has made him like that. He started his speech with a negative connotation (Strategic autonomy- why India can NOT become a superpower). Then he would demean his audience too (IIT ranking in the world). Probably that’s why he is loved by so many people because of his candid way of speaking. At the end, his brilliant ideas and speech look more like a ridicule than a critique or a SWOT analysis or a concrete plan on how to build on from where we are. He should probably write a white paper on his ideas, because his verbal skills are not that good.
IIT is not known for it's "verbal skills" either. I have many colleagues who work there and studied there. "Verbal Skills" are downside even in EU , talking about Germany, France , Netherlands if you consider "English" as a mode. These nations have used their mother tongue as knowledge propagation medium which is easily understood. The main concept being : "Effectively relaying info. across is more important than "articulating" in a foreign tongue".
People in EU while speaking in English by mistake and much often switch to their mother tongue owing to the accent and influx of their tongue into their English. Here internationals understand each other through "effective communication" - not English but the Subject. Language may be simplest but info. must be conveyed. It's time our nation understands that.
thats the problem. Hes a thinker and not a doer.
Regarding the question Abhijit Iyer-Mitra asked about a minority dominating the political majority - the answer is the US Senate. It explains a lot of the US polarization now. 18% of US votes control 52% of US Senate.
1:48 remove your headphones!
Great talk and Q/A. My main question would be if the education costs come down with online education and cheaper data. An audience member almost went there, but asked a different q.
That wouldn't work for blue collar manufacturing skills. We need more of those and more industries to hire those people as well.
thank you camera man for totally ignoring the slides! kudos!!
Excellent. The guy has got head
and u haven't brainless idiots
I love getting heads too😂
My God ... My mind just freaked out ... This is so precise and in depth analysis ....thank you Sir for enlighting our mind
I THINK THERE IS a big problem the 396 b should be divided by 4 to match purchasing power
Yr right
Abhijeet Sir is Brilliant.
I think the audience is dead 😂😂😂 but otherwise an insightful lecture
🤯😱 what the hell. How will we solve this.
Thats for the preveledged ones like us to figure out!
@@hman8100 Actually , it's impossible to solve.
Ummm.... seems like the audience knows nothing ! No answers to AIMs questions! Smh lol, if this is what we are producing in IITs.
Sid dutta, hood he is educating them. Some comments here talking about they know it all but doing it is the problem.
The problem with India is its peasantry. From Punjab to Tamilnadu, you see one or the other Peasant caste ruling the roost, dominating the politics, bureaucracy, police and in some states even the industry. Peasants, with all due respect to them, are culturally among the most regressive and backward groups not only in India but everywhere around the world. You do not expect a peasant to understand the principles of universal morality, equality, tolerance, rationality etc. Peasants are generally bull-headed and when you put these groups in power precisely this happens what has been happening in India for 70 years. The majority of the Indians who of course are non-peasants have to reclaim the Indian politics from the peasants, treat Agricultural Income at par with the Income from Business and Profession and tax it, roll back all the privileges and subsidies that farmers enjoy, kick the peasant castes out of the OBC list, privatize the PSUs that can be privatized and shut down those that can not be. If India can not be reclaimed from the clutches of the peasants, No power on earth could stop Union of India from total disintegration in the next two decades at best.
Problem in india is overcounting of peasant population in india. Majority of Indians depends on MSME sector for employment not agriculture as stats make you believe.
First 40 years it was ruled terribly by the corrupt and stupid Nehru elite
Really true words
Great talk. I think the take away here is that there is no hope. Those who are smart get the eff out!
@Heat Ray Best thing anyone's every said. Thanks man/ma'am
Heat Ray
Not a wise mindset at all. America is a country build by various groups of people who left their respective sinking ships and created a prosperous society. Ditto Canada, Australia, and New Zealand too to a certain extent. What use is your talent if it's frittered away in a place where it'll never be actualised?
Heat Ray
In a sense that's precisely my point. There were many people and cultures throughout history who didn't fight or conquer or succeed in defending their interests and they're all gone now or severely weaken. It's horrible but that's just the way things are, have been and always will be. Indians can choose to waste away their potential and clearly exceptional talents in India or go and cultivate them somewhere else.
Historical reality doesn't care about high minded ideals about 'sinking with the ship' just because it's 'your' ship. Either be ready to fix that ship using whatever underhand tactics are necessary (like LKY's 'benevolent dictatorship' that took Singapore from third world to first world in 30 years, Deng's selective enforcement of free market principles in China that uprooted the whole society but produced a 21st century power, the government subsidised westward expasion/colonisation/genocide of America that has produced a country with the most advantageous and powerful geography in history, or the unscrupulous Western/British expansion that has produced the modern largely in their image), do that, or fritter away with your ideals while another powerful outsider rules over the Hindus for the next few centuries. Or realise India's not going to become power because it's too big to be this poor and underdeveloped to be stable, and just leave. Apply your talents elsewhere.
Heat Ray
If more humans throughout history had followed the advice you're following we wouldn't be where we are now in terms of advancements and expansion. They would have stayed where they were waiting for a hopeless situation to get better and working through a measly (non)opportunity, rather than finding and capitalising on better opportunities whereever they presented themselves.
Imagine Elon Musk staying in South Africa or going back straight away after his visa ran out rather than taking the (legal) risk and overstaying in the US and capitalising on the particular opportunities compatible with his talents that are only available there and nowhere else right now. Consider who he is now and what he has done and the impact he'll have on world betterment before he dies, and who he might have become if he had stayed or gone back to South Africa. I'm sure a man like that would have done something worthwhile in South Africa but it would have been nothing to the order of what is only possible for someone of his talents to do in America at the moment.
Ditto other historical figures. Einstein, Popper, Berlin, even Werner von Bruan (sic) to a certain extent. They all (and many many more - the list would be very long) chose the ship that floats and we're all better off for it in various fields.
Heat Ray
If you don't understand it then let me spell it out:
A sinking ship is a sinking ship and there's nothing noble in lost potential going down with the ship. The nomadic age is over, yes, but expansion and innovation will continue to happen for as long as humans are around, and in order to partake you need go where the opportunities are - wherever they are - and bend them to your will.
Also, thanks for throwing that ad hominem in there.
If that is a best stage/platform the mighty IIT can offer a guest speaker, then both the Institute and India is in far greater trouble then we think.
When will us Indians decide to give a fuck about quality of work, presentation, and perception management.
Thumb nail ma ise hulk kyu bana diya🤣🤣🤣🤣
Indo not agree with stunting and cognitive retardation. Chinese have faced severe malnutrition for many generations and also a greatest man made famine. But with in 30 years, they have started a economic miracle. There is more to this.
so kids should be stunted?
there is more to this and its called socialism
23:52
36:00 - Modi's "farm policies".
42:36 - Judiciary.
Did you deliberately just see modi's faults and pointed it out ? Your congress was in power for more than BJP . MAXIMUM DAMAGE HAS BEEN DONE BY CONGRESS.
@@RayRayM554 First off, the above was simply meant as "notes" for myself. I wanted to thoroughly study what was said in the video.
But since now you mention it, just to be clear, I don't shill for congress and yeah they did maximum damage.
But at the same time, that won't stop me from critiquing the shortcomings of the present government either.
@@tiffles3890 Gaurab more than anything we don't have a choice between BJP and opposition cause the opposition will destroy the country and civilization for votes and needs . BJP does same but do it on a lesser scale . If Arvind Kejriwal wanted he could say that Mughals and Delhi Sultanate had ravaged and destroy the lives of 100 millions of people destroyed our food supply and stunted the lives of Hindus .
@@tiffles3890 Well Gaurav if you comment on a TH-cam video , anyone who will read it will think of it as a comment. No one will think they were notes . But if they were , it's fine. It's the way it was written that mislead me as it will mislead anyone. Very few people write notes in a TH-cam comments section.
Also you are right that we should criticise the current govt. As well. I agree with you 100% brother. We just misunderstood one another. 😊
@The Emerald indeed but Kuae mein pani hai , Khai mein moauth . We need the BJP till we can create new parties which will focus on tradition.
I felt this presentation could have used some suggestions on how to face these problems... without it the tone of the talk turned out to be extremely pessimistic.
But credit where credit is due, it was a very informative session.
Well he clearly stated that it's a policy problem. 65% of electoral seats are in rural area. And they generate only 30% of total wealth in India. And 40% of electoral power is in cities and they generate 70% of G. D. P. And politicians only think about elections rather than policy efficiency. That's why we see lots of loan waiver for farmers but no permanent solution. Because that's how you make them dependent on themselves.
@@samvaadevents Well sir this presentation perfectly explain that what is wrong with policymakers of indian state. And why china grew and we didn't.
@Stratus He is half bengali u a**hole but most importantly he is an Indian first 😒
@@OnkarShrmatrue
Abhjit killer one "97% think they are 3% ...... " LOL
Really Great Abhijit
Unfortunate but all true.
How old is this event.....for sure is not latest
5th November 2019.
Samvaad Events : 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Indian economics became as comics afterManmohan Singh left
@samvaad : plz use better camera..reasonabe mobile can shoot better videos..Content is important & so does the production quality
Thanks for your comment!
Background to the lecture: IIT Kharagpur had rescinded its permission at the 11th hour, due to a difference with Abhijit's views. The venue had to be shifted from a state-of-the art-auditorium (capacity: 2500) to a much smaller venue (capacity: 50). Yet, Abhijit stood with us through out the ordeal and was even prepared to deliver a talk "under a banyan tree". We acknowledge his support in ensuring we could hold the talk despite the opposition. We apologise for the drop in our production quality and promise to make up for it soon!
Please check out our previous event with Adv. J. Sai Deepak on our event production: th-cam.com/video/cyKMlNFo88c/w-d-xo.html
I think the education budget quoted is quite wrong. As per 2021 the education budget was $85 billion, not $8 billion as quoted in the slide. It's still quite less but saying $8 billion is gross misrepresentation.
85 will still get us nowhere.
43:21 today as of 4th may 2024 case pendency is 5 million +
He's right on most things. Needs more nuance in some places. But overall...wake the fuck up India.
his economic ideas are too rightwing for me. But other than that I like him.
You know, AIM is good but his statement doesn't always come true. Example: India won't be able to sale Brahmos, India won't give order for Tejas MK1A.
When was this talk held?
so well spoken
Pl. Tailor lectures in tamil for the common people of tamil nadu
"Strategic autonomy"- not known to IITan🙄.
All these talks do not make any sense because it ll fall into deaf ears. In a country which does not recognize merit ll fail eventually. 70yrs & 70% kota isn't this racism & violation of fundamental rights.
Inefficiency ll creep into every aspect of life.
The kota class thinks by getting free edu & job they & their children ll ve a safe life, but their short sightedness ll fall flat when their enemy ll seize d opportunity & destroy d country!!
its quota and not kota. its because the politicians care more about votebank rather than country.
PLEASE SHARE THE SLIDES LINK
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THE J-20 HAS THE PL-21 VLRAAM
Great talk
I think case is booked against these students. It’s gonna ruin their career. Don’t worry guys…
awesome
Takla at IIT - Defence, Economy, Energy!!!
Takla at home - Zulum ki yeh raat kategi, Rana teri waat lagegi!!!
Abhijit is just asking questions and India is doing work on it.pretty high actually,just tell mein why are we progressing highly in hypersonic weapons and 5th gen fighter jet which will be completed by 2030 and just questions will remain.see all technologies of amca or 5th gen jet has been developed now assembly and prototype testing is only remaining,but sats won't tell u
Whatever this guy talks is Google information being presented like he found it and no one else knows about it
if you can refute his data analysis with your analysis then there can be some merit to your argument, otherwise it's just another emotional reaction...Google se uthaya hone se sach toh nhi badlega na bhai...truth is truth irrespective of where its coming from...
namardhs trained from rss should not be allowed near to power corridors
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
IN WHICH IIT WAS THE TALK HELD ?
I think he said Kharagpur... When he asked about nuclear reactor
IIT Kharagpur
This talk is depressing and enlightening
42:00
Hum superpower isliye ni ban skte because hm English follow krte h apna culture bhul chuke hai
5:50 : Putting Stone Age to be around 7,000 BC is a highly conservative, to be honest erroneous, estimate keeping in mind our _ChaturYug_ ( and larger chronologically cyclical ) timelines.
Because considering
1) _KaliYug_ begins when Shri Krishna departs from earth, an event which perhaps took place 3000 to 6000 yrs back
2) Shri Rama was born in later _TretaYug_ and the society then as described in Ramayana is a far cry from Stone Age barbarism
3) Between _TretaYug_ and _KaliYug_ , there is an entire _DvaparaYug_
4) The duration of Yugas are in ratio - _Satya_ : _Treta_ : _Dvapara_ : _Kali_ = 4 : 3 : 2 : 1 ( Ref: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga_Cycle#The_cycle )
then the kind of barbaric description of society in 7,000 BC of Mr. Abhijit seems more indicative of a post-imperialistic Western knowledge source rather than that of our much more _Sanatan_ traditions spanning multitude of millenia
Chutiya.
Nice trolling. Game recognise game
😂😂
Dumb heads will be dumb heads
Germane.
Abolish Socialism and we might have a future
BJP is Saffron Communist and Congress is left of left , therefore we are screwed .
What does that actually mean in practice. WHat practices do u want to abolish. We have abolished those things.
Very bad sound system and recording. YOUR VOICE SOUNDS TOO SHRILL. NEED TO DO PROPER SOUND RECORDING & SOUND MODULATIONS.
Venue was changed that's why sound problem is their.
Jab Arab rule Kiya duniya pe to aaj Arab desh duniya m kayi jagah hai Muslim duniya m hr jagha faila h kayi country hai
Usi tarah jab English rule krrha h world m to aaj kayi desh English h even India M English h Avi take uske gulam desh ko chla the hai or sb m ek common h sb apni culture see or dharam ko follow krke superpower bna hai Islam to bna hi h apne dharam pe chal kr or aaage v super power isi tarah banega Islam
Do not worry about India's status on the world scene? Every fortnight or so some guy appears with a video showing the past sophisticated technology ,by the way these are far far superior than what US and Russia combine have as on date, for example he begins with a Calender of Sugreeva's and in about a few weeks he brings out another story and moves the date to 24000 years thus he negated the periods of each yuga and claims that Ramayana as 14000 yearswhile vishnu purana it states that treta yuga is the yuga when rama lived and that was more than 2.4 million years ago and so on ,even in your present speech mention that writing did not exist before 7000 years ago but he comes up with a calendar with the names of nations. So India is definitely the only super Power in the world by 2024 .
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Lol
Keep dreaming baby! It's 2024 almost coming up!
His Education part is only based on numbers. America is not number one because of just investment, it is mainly due to immigrants. Even though they spend a lot on American kids the results are not great. An indic style education with Yoga, Meditation can go much further than just spending money.
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The audio guy should be fired. Poor, 3rd class level job. Even village level natak shows have better audio.
Abhijeet has everything so negative about India, but not a single solution. Why?
@Chirag He raised some fundamental questions. He was not there to please your mind. He wanted answers from Problem solvers. Question is are you a problem solver?
@Chirag I see nothing wrong in being close with US. Subramanian Swamy also advocates the same and opines to shed the dependence of Russia, a relation of cold war relic and not based on wisdom. Coming back to topic, at times in problem solving asking the right question is the key and figuring out the solution is the job of a problem solver. It seems you are those 97% who depend on guide book for a ready made answers. I am not saying, I am a problem solver but do acknowledge valid questions but you seem to have lost your mind at not finding a ready made answer. Go attend a a feel good Shiv Khera motivation class.
Strategy autonomy is a stupid policy...
It’s ironical that 10 thousand dollars a year is not even the fees of IIT 😂
An y policy not based on justice and fairness and simply based on NATIONALISM and Hate of others is bound to create more disorder and mischief in the already troubled world.
Bullshit, he says Indian diplomats and policymakers don't know about these facts. C'mon you've to know 100 times more to clear UPSC. It is very easy to criticise tbh but hundred times more difficult to implement solutions in India.
Sorry but all I am hearing is failure compensation.
@Live Stream TV Bro, just 20 years ago having a television, refrigerator, motorcycles, washing machine in a house was considered to be a luxury now every home has it. Except for some extremely poor households. So , things are not as dark as you think to be.
@@a_02_prakashnayak59 china is 6x richer than us. It is pretty dark.
BRAIN WASHING.
How so?