@@januszpolak254Her skill 1 is vanguard siege S2 but true damage, without the charge. Sure, it isnt amazing, but the fact that its true AoE true famage alone means she is great afk solution against stall-able or stationary tanky enemies
@@januszpolak254Her skill 1 is vanguard siege S2 but true damage, without the charge. Sure, it isnt amazing, but the fact that its true AoE true famage alone means she is great afk solution against stall-able or stationary tanky enemies
I just love that our sources of True Damage are: 2 great warriors of inredible heritage; some mysterious entity that Mon3tr is; the Lord of Fiends arts; the power of a Seaborn god; Młynar's contemptuous gaze; a really good water canon; Cliffheart's skills with a rope.
Yeah, crazy how she isnt an operator on the game yet. Isn't that crazy? I really hope when she gets added in they give her her cool explosion skill! That would be really cool and I see absolutely no reason why they wouldn't :D
Not really because if the module has arts related buff (you know arts fighter) she gain little to no effect because all of her skill is true dmg meanwhile Surtr gonna melt enemy even more (& Viviana still crying in her grave).
The biggest reason viva can deal more dmg is bc unlike nearl She has no "need to be blocked" restriction on the true dmg She Just needs them to be on her 8 surrounding tiles and she can hit em with true fat dmg
@@thundercat4648Which is just an assumption and is likely to be wrong. They would pretty much have to copy the lord talent onto the arts guards for her to get little use out of it. And even then we would still have the base stat increase and whatever talent buff she gets.
@@nier3072 honestly even if they just gave her something like +10 res ignore on branch change and +2 or 3 sec of immortality it would already be good crazy enough
This Video Genuinely put a smile on my face. Siege and Nearl were my first 6 & 5 stars that I got at the start of the game, and have been mainstays on my team since. I already have a max pot Nearl Alter and I cant wait to get Siege
Nearl will always be special because she's the design that got me to play the game in the first place. It took a few months to get her defender version, and about a year to get the alter by sparking on a limited banner, but I still got her.
The main crime HG commited against Nearl is that S3 true damage works only when she's (or her sun) blocks an enemy. And that they couldn't change anymore.
A good showcase to separate the uses for Vina & Nearl. I tend to use Nearl more for her S2 these days, but thanks to this I’m reminded that her S3 could still hit ridiculously hard.
VFX aside, the SFX so underwhelming, just give her typical anime sword swing swing or something man, the S3 SFX is like whipping wet noodle sound instead.
If by SFX you mean a jungle of lions awkwardly not making any noise, then sure, I agree. But if you're talking about the sword SFX, I strongly disagree. Go find a bastard sword, any light single-handed sword, or even just grab a thin stick and swing it around. Do you hear how it sounds? Notice how the sound changes depending on how lightly or forcefully you swing it (Skill 1), or when you wind it from behind to the front (Skill 2), or when you swing it as wide as you can (Skill 3). Does anyone else find it interesting that the SFX designers paid attention to those details? So yeah, I think the SFX lowkey kind of nailed it in terms of trying to achieve realism. But no, this is a fantasy anime game, so everything has to be way more exaggerated for the sake of... entertainment, I guess? I don’t know. Anime stock noises never amuse me personally, they just piss me off.
@@bowie_blondiedood, okay see here's my problem, the SFX way too damn basic for the sword of the ruler? Of victoria. I'll take example from the 2 nearl family sisters : both nearly and blemi have this same peep squeak SFX even in their basic attack (Mylnar S2 too) they're have very distinct SFX that makes them memorable, their S3 even more distinct which each other (NtRk S3 sfx damn insane). Good SFX carries weigh and impact to the swing, example: SA and Mylnar (both scwing scwing type yet both of them are distinct with each other giving them different flavours to it), Surtr S3 which each thrust to the ground conjuring Lava/fire attack, you felt the impact of these attacks just by the SFX alone. Hell even Melantha have a legit crisp sword slashing SFX compared to this. No need to be like an anime like shit SFX, see the dev are capable of making good SFX like Mudrock S2 Spin, now take that and make it realistic sound of hammer and imagine it, would it be better and cooler than the sound of spinning diesel engine from hell ? And Rosmontis, with whatever the hell that insanely scary SFX she have on S3 while you pounding enemies to death with that big Device. They're capable to make things better and choose a basic ass generic sound for someone with great power/status like Vina/siege rn, it's just disappointing. For the Lion design, oh boy, even IS4 ending 4 lion enemies are better designed than these spirits lion, idk man maybe because the murky colour ? Making it "eh, okay".
i'd be interested in seeing how they compare defensively, since nearlter's def buff is quite nice but vina only has a one-time tremble (but also meat shields)
Nearl has higher def when s3 is active, but Siege has 20% physical damage reduction to all allies (including herself), and higher base def, so off skill she should be better, especially since arts guards have some initial res as well +tremble surely helps as long as she can kill stuff in that 4 second timeframe or deal enough damage to almost kill them anyways, +since Siege relies on allies blocking enemies in her s3 (Lions are there to fill the gap mostly), you can just place defender near her to take hits in her stead and she won't lose true damage All in all Nearl is kinda can't compete here sadly, not only arts guards are decently tanky by default, you can also just use others as a meatshield for Siege
@@threehoo Physical damage reduc doesnt matter as much as it sounds as flat reduction is better, its just that Nearl has super low defense anyway so the difference becomes not noticeable
As a Ling user, I agree lol Attempt to use her properly to cover lanes with summons and now I don't have deployment slots left, she eats one for herself then 7 for her dragons lol
My only real gripe with NTR S3 is the targeting when multiple enemies are present, which Vina much improves. Dmg can always be supplemented, buffed, etc.
@@koroquette I mean, you could pair Liskarm with Nearl (or anyone for that matter) as well. That doesn't really change the fact that NTR DOES have better cycling.
So basically, Nearl has hellidrop while Siege has multi targeting. Honestly, they are both extremely good on their own fields...i still want Siege more because she holds a special place for me...Her vanguard version helped me out quite a lot all the way until i got some others like Cantabille, Flametail and Saga...which was pretty late tbh
As a NTRK simp not surprised at all i think i said this more than enough victoria is a upgrade of NTRK in terms of true dmg but theres still pros/cons(well ntrk S3 have tons of cons if u dont know what ur doing tbh) form what i hear victoria play like mylner anyway NTRK is used for her heledrop S2 so her S3 being powercreep this hard is not problem for me tbh i will say its welcome bcause its +1 to my knight niche so imma use both with degen 😂
Well, even if Nearl and Kal'tsit S3 got powercreept, it doesn't matter at all can still use and are useful even if there's another or better option though.
I don't think you can even say Kal S3 got powercrept yet though, because Mon3ter still has an unconditional 3 block, beefed up defensive stats, and priority healing. Vina might be more powerful, but they have different functionality (especially off skill)
To be fair, my NTR knight mostly uses Helidrop S2 (Plus Platinum/blemishin/Mlynar to negate the drawback), so her main conpetition is probably Kal'tsit
For me, i just have no word for sad vivi in corner. Not only specific position to use, also dps come out is too much poorly. I still can't imagine how vivi can comeback even when she got module :(
@@vanzeralltheway8638 I know you're joking but Vina's s2's damage isn't really that high. You can just think of Vina's s2 as 70~80% of Blaze s2's damage but art.
Its still vina's win. She shreds 4 enemy at once without any penalty, target anyone in the surrounding 8 tiles, on top of also being able to hit enemies outside of those 8 tiles (blocked by allies).
Quite honestly, both is mid that i'd still prefer mont3r. "B-but mont3r only deals 34k-ish true damage??" mont3r only has 15sp cost while vina has around 50sp for 70k-ish true dmg on optimal condition. Heck, i'd prefer mont3r's FRD capability more than stationary ops like nearl & vina
S3 just got yeeted straight up, Vina straight up hits multiple enemies no questions asked as long as the Gawain army stands and blocks Oh well at least Nearl still has the S2, 0 deployment slot moment always has its uses, shields are also useful sometimes
@@Konpekikaminari this is correct, & highlights why NTR has largely been power crept. NTR is a lone warrior who can't quite live up to her reputation, because she's a single block dreadnought rather than a centurion (where her kit would shine so much brighter). Vina meanwhile has the same single block, but gets around that due to how much better her S3 is at both expanding her effective attack range, & improving her blocking ability via her summons.
Tbh its skill related, her kit isnt flawed like exealt where he had so generation and downtime issues that hindered him, sieges kit is alr fine, its just not enough to be game breaking or top meta wich is pretty good anyway
@@kyarumomochi5146 exec issues were mostly do to his numbers being too low which his modules fixed Siege has the same problem especially if you can't get a bunch of allies around her for the extra damage so making it so she needs less allies around or she gets more attack per allies or more attack speed per allies would be a huge boost
@@darkomihajlovski3135 What numbers were too low? His s3 was one of the strongest physical damage dealing skills even without the module, the module improved his off skill sustain and sp battery reliability, his actual damage was already high and werent improved as much
@@kyarumomochi5146 his talent proc chance was too low making his skill down time too long and killing enemies off skill unreabel the increase to the proc chance the 300 def ignore and good stats increased made him way better on and off skill
Salter being a True fighter is very evident in the hell stage Patriot bc it shows that enemies dont need to be blocked to recieve true dmg unlike Ntr requiring to be blocked by herself or the roadblock that she drops to recieve true dmg
NTRk still had its usage with s1 afk and s2 helidrop robot. Moreover although she lose to vina, her s3 still hit really hard so its not entirely a loss.
Personally, I prefer Siege/Vina over Nearlter mainly cause Vina isn't limited like Nearlter (Plus, I'm still still salty about not getting her in the Near Light banner)
Bloodknight didn't even get affected by Ela's fragile. He's in invincible state. You can clearly see that there's no fragile icon above his head. Now you know why there's no single person here calling out on that other than you.
With the way I was using Nearlter, taking advantage of the stun and/or burst of true damage on activation and better skill cycle which is not featured in this video at all. I think I'll still take Nearl quiet a lot
The powercreep is crazy. At least Nearl still has her S2. But she has to compete with Skadi who is a pseudo fast-redeploy. Most of the time Surtr, Texas or Yato alter are better for assassinating elites. I guess Nearlter is kinda useless now, too bad, she's a limited operator.
Patriot is the clearest showcase of Nearl’s s3 flaw. She needs to block her target to deal True damage, but there are many enemies where blocking might just equate to a death sentence. Vina’s S3 is a much more improve version of Nearl’s S3 solely due to how much easier it is for Vina to apply her True Damage compared to Nearl’s.
Wait when s3 says she attacks enemies blocked by allies in the surrounding 8 tiles, does it mean any ally or only her lions? That's important to know. If it's all allies then sadge ayerscarpe s2 powercreep kek
She can attack any enemies blocked by surrouding allies. Meaning, if you plop saria in front of or behind her, Vina can still shred them on her S3. Yes, this means ayerscrape S2. Also, her attack range expand into the 8 tiles square, any unblocked enemies in that range will also get shredded. Ayerscrape S2 + nearl alter S3 + range expansion, lmao.
@@vanzeralltheway8638 This is wrong, she has no range expansion. Her s3 only attack blocked enemies 8 tiles around her AND her basic range (a.k.a the 1 tile in front of her and her own tile). If an enemy that can't be blocked dont't enter her basic range she won't attack them.
If you want Wis'Adel, pull for her, she is Lim. Vina Victoria is Perm., so she will likely spook you on future banners so you can wait a little more for her
I use nearl for the free slot helidrop. She's still safe in my book.
Yea s2 is still safe and it was always the best skill but her s3 just got basically powercrept by Vina
A limited unit is now falling down to a glorified robot smh 😢
@@YulHolic24 Can't see any good side from something huh?
@@YulHolic24"glorified robot" if anything i think that description fits nearl more
@@YulHolic24 A robot with shields, Armor Piercing, tons of damage, stuns, etc.
"arts guard" with 2 unconditional true damage skills lmao
To be fair one them sucks.
@@januszpolak254Her skill 1 is vanguard siege S2 but true damage, without the charge. Sure, it isnt amazing, but the fact that its true AoE true famage alone means she is great afk solution against stall-able or stationary tanky enemies
@@januszpolak254Her skill 1 is vanguard siege S2 but true damage, without the charge. Sure, it isnt amazing, but the fact that its true AoE true famage alone means she is great afk solution against stall-able or stationary tanky enemies
@@vanzeralltheway8638 e0 enjoyers surely will find good use for siege's s1
I just love that our sources of True Damage are: 2 great warriors of inredible heritage; some mysterious entity that Mon3tr is; the Lord of Fiends arts; the power of a Seaborn god; Młynar's contemptuous gaze; a really good water canon; Cliffheart's skills with a rope.
and Nightmare s2 lol
U forgot hoaderer
@@kyarumomochi5146 who?
@@frauflaw100edibleorganicco9 the hoe hoe, the derer of hoes, mr mirror i'll take it all
what's the water cannon?
"Arts guard"
Vivian is crying in the corner
Yeah, crazy how she isnt an operator on the game yet. Isn't that crazy? I really hope when she gets added in they give her her cool explosion skill! That would be really cool and I see absolutely no reason why they wouldn't :D
@@lenoon3814😭😭😭
@@lenoon3814 Damn, she must be a top tier caster when she finally gets implemented in the game!
@@lenoon3814 😭
@@lenoon3814 😭
This is before we get any arts guard module, the gap will grow only bigger
Not really because if the module has arts related buff (you know arts fighter) she gain little to no effect because all of her skill is true dmg meanwhile Surtr gonna melt enemy even more (& Viviana still crying in her grave).
The biggest reason viva can deal more dmg is bc unlike nearl
She has no "need to be blocked" restriction on the true dmg
She Just needs them to be on her 8 surrounding tiles and she can hit em with true fat dmg
@@thundercat4648Which is just an assumption and is likely to be wrong.
They would pretty much have to copy the lord talent onto the arts guards for her to get little use out of it.
And even then we would still have the base stat increase and whatever talent buff she gets.
Surtr module : - Redeployment time + free deployment slot. +10 Res ignore 😂
@@nier3072 honestly even if they just gave her something like +10 res ignore on branch change and +2 or 3 sec of immortality it would already be good crazy enough
This Video Genuinely put a smile on my face. Siege and Nearl were my first 6 & 5 stars that I got at the start of the game, and have been mainstays on my team since. I already have a max pot Nearl Alter and I cant wait to get Siege
Nearl will always be special because she's the design that got me to play the game in the first place. It took a few months to get her defender version, and about a year to get the alter by sparking on a limited banner, but I still got her.
Vivi can hit multiple enemies, with a fcking true damage
thats the cheat
No, Vivi can't
Vina, on the other hand.... :(
@@gabrieloceano, VIna VIctoria - ViVi. Like JoJo.
U should call her vina, vivi is short term for viviana instead
Vina literally won so hard againts Vivi that she stole her name
so who's Vivi, I only know ViVi
@@gabrieloceanowrong vivi
The main crime HG commited against Nearl is that S3 true damage works only when she's (or her sun) blocks an enemy. And that they couldn't change anymore.
They can change it but in the form of her module. Just that I don't know if they are willing to add that to the arts guard module.
@@Mutualititvethe chance is slim too none, since that asking for a delta/third module, and that kind of modules only show up once in the blue moon
A good showcase to separate the uses for Vina & Nearl. I tend to use Nearl more for her S2 these days, but thanks to this I’m reminded that her S3 could still hit ridiculously hard.
VFX aside, the SFX so underwhelming, just give her typical anime sword swing swing or something man, the S3 SFX is like whipping wet noodle sound instead.
turns out siege didn't manage to powercreep nearl in SFX department at all
@@user-mg4rc1qw6wYeah, all of kazimier 6 star vfx and sfx are epic, man.
If by SFX you mean a jungle of lions awkwardly not making any noise, then sure, I agree. But if you're talking about the sword SFX, I strongly disagree. Go find a bastard sword, any light single-handed sword, or even just grab a thin stick and swing it around. Do you hear how it sounds? Notice how the sound changes depending on how lightly or forcefully you swing it (Skill 1), or when you wind it from behind to the front (Skill 2), or when you swing it as wide as you can (Skill 3). Does anyone else find it interesting that the SFX designers paid attention to those details? So yeah, I think the SFX lowkey kind of nailed it in terms of trying to achieve realism. But no, this is a fantasy anime game, so everything has to be way more exaggerated for the sake of... entertainment, I guess? I don’t know. Anime stock noises never amuse me personally, they just piss me off.
@@bowie_blondiedood, okay see here's my problem, the SFX way too damn basic for the sword of the ruler? Of victoria.
I'll take example from the 2 nearl family sisters : both nearly and blemi have this same peep squeak SFX even in their basic attack (Mylnar S2 too) they're have very distinct SFX that makes them memorable, their S3 even more distinct which each other (NtRk S3 sfx damn insane).
Good SFX carries weigh and impact to the swing, example: SA and Mylnar (both scwing scwing type yet both of them are distinct with each other giving them different flavours to it), Surtr S3 which each thrust to the ground conjuring Lava/fire attack, you felt the impact of these attacks just by the SFX alone.
Hell even Melantha have a legit crisp sword slashing SFX compared to this.
No need to be like an anime like shit SFX, see the dev are capable of making good SFX like Mudrock S2 Spin, now take that and make it realistic sound of hammer and imagine it, would it be better and cooler than the sound of spinning diesel engine from hell ?
And Rosmontis, with whatever the hell that insanely scary SFX she have on S3 while you pounding enemies to death with that big Device.
They're capable to make things better and choose a basic ass generic sound for someone with great power/status like Vina/siege rn, it's just disappointing.
For the Lion design, oh boy, even IS4 ending 4 lion enemies are better designed than these spirits lion, idk man maybe because the murky colour ? Making it "eh, okay".
i'd be interested in seeing how they compare defensively, since nearlter's def buff is quite nice but vina only has a one-time tremble (but also meat shields)
Keep in mind Vina doesn't need to actually block for her true dmg (see patriot), which means her own survivability is much less relevant
@@bluerendar2194 very fair point! but i am still interested nonetheless
Nearl has higher def when s3 is active, but Siege has 20% physical damage reduction to all allies (including herself), and higher base def, so off skill she should be better, especially since arts guards have some initial res as well +tremble surely helps as long as she can kill stuff in that 4 second timeframe or deal enough damage to almost kill them anyways, +since Siege relies on allies blocking enemies in her s3 (Lions are there to fill the gap mostly), you can just place defender near her to take hits in her stead and she won't lose true damage
All in all Nearl is kinda can't compete here sadly, not only arts guards are decently tanky by default, you can also just use others as a meatshield for Siege
@@bikerhomi OH MY GOD. i totally forgot about vina's physical damage reduction... never mind... poor nearlter
@@threehoo Physical damage reduc doesnt matter as much as it sounds as flat reduction is better, its just that Nearl has super low defense anyway so the difference becomes not noticeable
Honestly niches like being a free slot has more value in this day and age of waltuh choke full of dps units, and esp for a ling user
As a Ling user, I agree lol
Attempt to use her properly to cover lanes with summons and now I don't have deployment slots left, she eats one for herself then 7 for her dragons lol
Ah my poor M9 NTRK, it's okay you still #1 in my heart forever~
My only real gripe with NTR S3 is the targeting when multiple enemies are present, which Vina much improves. Dmg can always be supplemented, buffed, etc.
Yeah, what it doesn't show is Vina atrocious cycling.
That's what Liskarm is for.... If anything they synergize really well.
@@koroquette I mean, you could pair Liskarm with Nearl (or anyone for that matter) as well. That doesn't really change the fact that NTR DOES have better cycling.
I LOVE BOTH OF MY BLONDE QUEENS 😍🥰
Nah I'd keep using Nearl S2.
明らかに二アール意識された調整な気がする……
So basically, Nearl has hellidrop while Siege has multi targeting. Honestly, they are both extremely good on their own fields...i still want Siege more because she holds a special place for me...Her vanguard version helped me out quite a lot all the way until i got some others like Cantabille, Flametail and Saga...which was pretty late tbh
As a NTRK simp not surprised at all i think i said this more than enough victoria is a upgrade of NTRK in terms of true dmg but theres still pros/cons(well ntrk S3 have tons of cons if u dont know what ur doing tbh) form what i hear victoria play like mylner anyway NTRK is used for her heledrop S2 so her S3 being powercreep this hard is not problem for me tbh i will say its welcome bcause its +1 to my knight niche so imma use both with degen 😂
Her s2 was best anyway@
@@kyarumomochi5146 yeah but for me no maybe bcause i use her on everything so i have unique takes on NTRK kit
@@kyarumomochi5146yes but no for me maybe bcause i use her on every strat that i make that now i have a unique take on her kit
yes but for me no maybe bcause i used NTRK allot on different kind of strat that i form a unique take on her kit
Imo nearl was always better for her s2 anyway, i only used her s3 to stall eblana like once
The true loser is viviana, not nearl alt XD
Seems like HG has something against these 2, lol.
@@vanzeralltheway8638 LOL
Saber has arrived, just missing the "EXCALIBUR" voiceline
A bon-limited character made power creep to a limited one
Well, even if Nearl and Kal'tsit S3 got powercreept, it doesn't matter at all can still use and are useful even if there's another or better option though.
I don't think you can even say Kal S3 got powercrept yet though, because Mon3ter still has an unconditional 3 block, beefed up defensive stats, and priority healing. Vina might be more powerful, but they have different functionality (especially off skill)
Also utility and cycle of mon3tr is much better than vina. I guess it depends on the scenario
True meta is using Nearl S1 Siege S2 for infinite meta
Remember, vina doesn't had her modul yet
I think it would be funny if you made a video comparing wisadel to good ops like vigil and hool
Luckily, NTRKnight main skill is her S2 and it probably won't be replaced anytime soon.
To be fair, my NTR knight mostly uses Helidrop S2 (Plus Platinum/blemishin/Mlynar to negate the drawback), so her main conpetition is probably Kal'tsit
For me, i just have no word for sad vivi in corner. Not only specific position to use, also dps come out is too much poorly. I still can't imagine how vivi can comeback even when she got module :(
Imagine that viviana got her module, and still get outperformed by Vina's S2...
@@vanzeralltheway8638 I know you're joking but Vina's s2's damage isn't really that high. You can just think of Vina's s2 as 70~80% of Blaze s2's damage but art.
You should add a timer for how long Vina and nearl defeat enemy
Its still vina's win. She shreds 4 enemy at once without any penalty, target anyone in the surrounding 8 tiles, on top of also being able to hit enemies outside of those 8 tiles (blocked by allies).
Quite honestly, both is mid that i'd still prefer mont3r.
"B-but mont3r only deals 34k-ish true damage??" mont3r only has 15sp cost while vina has around 50sp for 70k-ish true dmg on optimal condition. Heck, i'd prefer mont3r's FRD capability more than stationary ops like nearl & vina
S3 just got yeeted straight up, Vina straight up hits multiple enemies no questions asked as long as the Gawain army stands and blocks
Oh well at least Nearl still has the S2, 0 deployment slot moment always has its uses, shields are also useful sometimes
Doesn't even have to be a lion
IIRC, Vina's S3 hits _anything_ blocked by friendlies in the 8 tiles around her
@@Konpekikaminari this is correct, & highlights why NTR has largely been power crept. NTR is a lone warrior who can't quite live up to her reputation, because she's a single block dreadnought rather than a centurion (where her kit would shine so much brighter). Vina meanwhile has the same single block, but gets around that due to how much better her S3 is at both expanding her effective attack range, & improving her blocking ability via her summons.
The patriot showcase prove that she didnt even need them to be blocked...
@@vanzeralltheway8638 It's because of her og range
@@Konpekikaminari My fucking god that's broken
Im betting 20 pulls she will get the executor alt treatment where her module is gona make her busted
I bet 30.
Tbh its skill related, her kit isnt flawed like exealt where he had so generation and downtime issues that hindered him, sieges kit is alr fine, its just not enough to be game breaking or top meta wich is pretty good anyway
@@kyarumomochi5146 exec issues were mostly do to his numbers being too low which his modules fixed
Siege has the same problem especially if you can't get a bunch of allies around her for the extra damage so making it so she needs less allies around or she gets more attack per allies or more attack speed per allies would be a huge boost
@@darkomihajlovski3135 What numbers were too low? His s3 was one of the strongest physical damage dealing skills even without the module, the module improved his off skill sustain and sp battery reliability, his actual damage was already high and werent improved as much
@@kyarumomochi5146 his talent proc chance was too low making his skill down time too long and killing enemies off skill unreabel the increase to the proc chance the 300 def ignore and good stats increased made him way better on and off skill
Salter being a True fighter is very evident in the hell stage Patriot bc it shows that enemies dont need to be blocked to recieve true dmg unlike Ntr requiring to be blocked by herself or the roadblock that she drops to recieve true dmg
crazy epic battle between artoria and musashi
2:34 Not only did Vina do more damage, But also killed everyone around her
NTRk still had its usage with s1 afk and s2 helidrop robot. Moreover although she lose to vina, her s3 still hit really hard so its not entirely a loss.
"still had" S2 was her main skill lol
At this point I'm just waiting for MYRTLE ALTER🧐🧐🧐
they seem relatively even until the 2 knights, just preference on their utility honestly (won't be building either, cool comparison)
Finally a fair comparison unlike the other channel who compare her to other units in their specialized situation just to hate and shit on her
Vina actually can beat patriot if you position her around the corner so 2 lions block patriots advance.
Personally, I prefer Siege/Vina over Nearlter mainly cause Vina isn't limited like Nearlter (Plus, I'm still still salty about not getting her in the Near Light banner)
i just get back from 2 weeks of recovering,and now i see Siege Alter?
Plain and simple Nearl single DPS attacker, Siege AOE offer a nice combo for the events, who is stronger new Alter W or Siege?
Gotta love how you sneaky debuff blood knight for siege with Ela, lol.
Nearl didn't need no debuffer
Bloodknight didn't even get affected by Ela's fragile. He's in invincible state. You can clearly see that there's no fragile icon above his head. Now you know why there's no single person here calling out on that other than you.
NTR, now just the 6* Castle-3
probably my new favorite for IS
Well, at least Vina is not limitied OP, and strong Op, so thats the best thing if I didn't have NTR knight😅
NTR s2 for life
With the way I was using Nearlter, taking advantage of the stun and/or burst of true damage on activation and better skill cycle which is not featured in this video at all. I think I'll still take Nearl quiet a lot
And also Siege attacks faster than Nearl
1:20 calm down, shu, i know the rice fields are are fertile, but don't get *that* excited over it! Jeez...
Near is amazing for helidrop and if you want a boss killer just use Surtr
배치인원포함 안되고 트루데미지에
어그로소환물도 깔아주는 창니어 vs 사자 최대8마리 소환하고 공격범위도 자기자리만 때리는 시즈
The powercreep is crazy. At least Nearl still has her S2. But she has to compete with Skadi who is a pseudo fast-redeploy. Most of the time Surtr, Texas or Yato alter are better for assassinating elites. I guess Nearlter is kinda useless now, too bad, she's a limited operator.
I wonder how arts guard module going to be. Vina is quite different from other arts guard. A res shred module for example would hardly benefit her.
Haha this bgm sounds lovely familiar
Omg save mode unlocked
I would like to point out that instead of thinking about who is better... Why not using both? 2 great sources of True damage, in my opinion
Patriot is the clearest showcase of Nearl’s s3 flaw.
She needs to block her target to deal True damage, but there are many enemies where blocking might just equate to a death sentence.
Vina’s S3 is a much more improve version of Nearl’s S3 solely due to how much easier it is for Vina to apply her True Damage compared to Nearl’s.
Both. Both is Good Civ. Plus, both of their VAs are Top Tier
Miyamoto Musashi vs Arthoria Pendragon 😂😂😂😂😂
LMAO VIVIAN get benched hard~ even if she gets a module she still going hard bench
Don't care, didn't ask, Smash. Next question.
All I'm seeing is single target true damage, and aoe true damage.
Can vina take the Aak buff like Nalter s3?
Wait when s3 says she attacks enemies blocked by allies in the surrounding 8 tiles, does it mean any ally or only her lions? That's important to know.
If it's all allies then sadge ayerscarpe s2 powercreep kek
She can attack any enemies blocked by surrouding allies.
Meaning, if you plop saria in front of or behind her, Vina can still shred them on her S3.
Yes, this means ayerscrape S2.
Also, her attack range expand into the 8 tiles square, any unblocked enemies in that range will also get shredded.
Ayerscrape S2 + nearl alter S3 + range expansion, lmao.
@@vanzeralltheway8638 This is wrong, she has no range expansion. Her s3 only attack blocked enemies 8 tiles around her AND her basic range (a.k.a the 1 tile in front of her and her own tile). If an enemy that can't be blocked dont't enter her basic range she won't attack them.
I like both, but in my opinion a lion can't beat a horse ❤
Now NTRK S3 almost ded😢, she has wider range but eh, S2 still good at least
Viviana is the strongest (cries in copium)
the creep is real
gosh man, I only have 180 pulls, and I want wisadel and now I also want vina, who's released first???
Wisadel of course
If you want Wis'Adel, pull for her, she is Lim.
Vina Victoria is Perm., so she will likely spook you on future banners so you can wait a little more for her
@@MizuEna-BiggestFan ooh vina victoria is perm?? R u sure?
@@ikki1215 Pretty sure
Wisadel can really solve 90 percent of problems,besides there are logos
Can 1 trillion Vina Victoria beat the sun????
I need this Siege alt
HAVE BOTH
Why dod you even compare between Musashi n Saber? Saber is Nasuverse's icon
Isnt nearl Alters prefered role to be a Heli Drop on S2?
Yes
It's Nearl for me,Helidrop Eraser and 2K attack AFK skill😂
How much Vina's S3 SP cost and initial SP, also how long is her skill duration?
0:27 voice who?
Eyja alter l2d skin
Alt eyja
LOL what is hg cook with Siege xD
of course lion is stronger than horse .
Pgr music lezz gooo
I am stronger .... simping
Just use both
irrelevant for me since i play only kurantaknights but 😭
Why choose when u can have both
Because someone didn't get the chance to roll both of them, d!ckhead
just make her as true guard,
nearl has condition for the true dmg, and she just flip from arts to true guard when skill activated
as a wise man said, when in doubt just get both
ah yes, s3 was helpful in many max risk dailies
😋2 Blonde😋
The real takeaway is that you don't need either lol. Siege isn't even that great.
The battle of mid
Wis'adel brainrot is real.
boo