@@cowgirlqueen2636 I had one 7-1 run but it was because I had an insane Boros deck with multiple rares and three novice inspector. But I also have had a zero win deck and 3 one win decks and the rest have been 3-4 wins. In general I usually maintain a 4-5 win average in my drafts and this time is way closer to 2-3. Oh well I prefer synergy based formats and this set hasn’t seemed easy to draft that. You just get run over by boros and selesnya
in my pre release I mulliganed into a 6 lander kept it put a land to the bottom drew lands for three turns even cracked a clue and drew another land. think i had seen 10 out of 16 by turn 4 not sure how can you shuffle and have that many lands tack together xD
40:30 - There's a third option: it's actually a Cold (Case Cracker) -- as in, the detective is a 'case cracker', and because they're a lifeless spirit, they are 'cold'.
Hey! Their using a spreadsheet to phone-in - uh, sorry, design - this format allowed for them to make a bunch of supplementary "mystery story" material that 99% of the playerbase ignored! And all that stuff helped to go on to make MKM sell the best out of any standard-legal set this year!
Great deck, that was cool (The last game was super unfortunate, and I am sorry you died to flood - hate when that happens, especially with a great deck.)
I have a question about the Lamplight Phoenix interaction. During the prerelease, my opponent played push/pull and took my Phoenix, and did a similar thing that you did with collecting evidence to take over the bird permanently. I didn’t know the rules behind it but I thought the play was cool and let him do it, but after the match, the other players said that the phoenix would go to my graveyard and my opponent wouldn’t be able to use its ability to bring it back. But now seeing the interaction with Coerced to Kill, does that mean my opponent was actually right in keeping the phoenix?
This was certainly a sweet deck, wouldn't have dared to draft it myself. After playing quite a few drafts and watching even more on yt though, I'm starting to wonder: does anyone ever get 7 wins in this format? Even the most powerful draft decks seem to eventually run into some kind of random issues (screw, flood, opponents topdecking 5 turns in a row...). Perhaps it's a format that very easily snowballs once you start to fall behind.
Wow. I've been sleeping on Izzet this set, but now I really see the potential. So fun to see this in action, goes to show you there's a lot of good routes to go when drafting this set.
Have you tried drafting sultai in this set, Luis? I've been watching Alex Chord-O-Calls draft it and it looks pretty neat. A lot of powerful rares in this format are sultai colors, and the fixing green provides can make it work. Love the content!
You are not serious, are you? He drew like 5 lands in a row. It sounds impossible, but if you do the math, out of like 7 games per draft, including both players, the chances of that happening are quite high. I can do the actual math if you like, but from the top of my head I'd bet that at this happens either to you or to your opponent once every second draft...
I did the math just for fun. The chances of seeing a 5 land sequence in a game are about 9%. Which means that it will happen to you on average once every 11 games, or to either you or your opponent once every 5-6 games or so. I assumed 40 cards deck, 17 lands, and that during the game a player draws anywhere between 7 to 33 cards at random, before the game ends. That last one is a bit speculative, but I doubt that the true value would change the result by a lot. Naturally, in faster formats its less likely to flood because the games are shorter.
I kinda get why lsv got that one confused. You expect at some point when reading that card that they'll let it be good in some way but it is neutered in just about every possible axis that today's card design allows
That's a pretty good comparison, but Pack Rat was still on a whole 'nother level of ridiculousness. The card was so sick that, in theory, a deck of 39 Swamps, 1 Pack Rat could still have a pretty good winrate. If you'd manage to mulligan into it and your opponent couldn't immediately kill it, it would take over the game. Plus the format around Pack Rat was weaker, I think.
It might just be my weird sense of humor, but somehow Fuss and Bother sounds like Duck and Cover from that 50's propaganda movie. Makes me wonder why they havent made a Duck//Cover split card? Saving it for the eventual Fallout set maybe? :) I really like MKM limited, went all the way from wood league to mythic already.
At 26:00, Why does the stolen phoenix return to the battlefield under your control? The phoenix doesn't specify whose control it enters under, so I thought it would default to going under the owner's control since there is no effect like coerced to kill giving it to you
Yeah, because the triggered ability says "return it to the battlefield" without specifying whose control it enters under, it's the controller of the ability who gets it.
This is the pro tour format? I’m curious to see how the play boosters do in a pro tour draft. I think it would be quite a poor showing if the extra rares were the most dominant factor in success.
I still do not get the Lamplight Phoenix interaction. Usually when you exile a permenant and return it to the battlefield it returns under it's owner control??
The triggered ability goes on the stack referencing the creature’s controller when it died, and nothing on the card references “owner” like these cards usually do.
Kylox looks like some 13 year old won a contest to design their own card and by contract wizards had to print it no matter what. It's just absolutely unplayable in any format. It contradicts what it's trying to do in the same block of text. Just a bizarre design choice.
LSV loves dropping deduces on the opponent
This format is way cooler when you watch LSV than play yourself.
Well it helps when you open the best limited card in the set
You're just bad
@@itzmango3070 normally I would disagree but this set has wrecked me. I am not winning nearly as much as normal.
@@briankruesi6484 don’t feel bad I haven’t been able to win more than 4
@@cowgirlqueen2636 I had one 7-1 run but it was because I had an insane Boros deck with multiple rares and three novice inspector. But I also have had a zero win deck and 3 one win decks and the rest have been 3-4 wins. In general I usually maintain a 4-5 win average in my drafts and this time is way closer to 2-3. Oh well I prefer synergy based formats and this set hasn’t seemed easy to draft that. You just get run over by boros and selesnya
I think you have the perfect blend of retail limited and cube going, and MKM has been really sweet to watch (and play!)
Coolest MKM deck i've seen so far. Great fun to watch the madness play out!
In that final game, you managed to draw 14 of your 18 lands. It's like a statistical marvel.
Happens all the time on arena bo1
He drew 18 of 18 in game 1
in my pre release I mulliganed into a 6 lander kept it put a land to the bottom drew lands for three turns even cracked a clue and drew another land. think i had seen 10 out of 16 by turn 4 not sure how can you shuffle and have that many lands tack together xD
This is the worst feeling in MTG, and a good reason to play better games. Land draws determining outcomes is just too much feels bad for me.
This is the kind of deck I want to see, for sure. Great stuff, Luis!
40:30 - There's a third option: it's actually a Cold (Case Cracker) -- as in, the detective is a 'case cracker', and because they're a lifeless spirit, they are 'cold'.
1:05:01 When the flood is so bad you draw 5 land in 4 cards.
“How about instead I just do nothing and then concede…”
That’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for him.
This deck is so fun and your enthusiasm for it is contagious
"hopefully one day they start designing cards again, instead of just using a spreadsheet" MEOW
That flooding was BRUTAL, also you could not have been punished harder for discarding the analyst
What an incredible deck! wow so cool. definitely living the DREAM
That last game tho… it’s wild how WotC rigged the shuffler to implement invisible catch-up mechanics on Arena.
That last game 😢 damn you shuffler!
This was a perfect deck! Loved the games. Eidetic memory seemed like an absolute house, especially with the case.
Hey! Their using a spreadsheet to phone-in - uh, sorry, design - this format allowed for them to make a bunch of supplementary "mystery story" material that 99% of the playerbase ignored!
And all that stuff helped to go on to make MKM sell the best out of any standard-legal set this year!
Best mtg set of the year, hah, I see what ya did there.
40:25 is the hardest I’ve laughed all week, never change LSV
He drew 14 lands last game, that's insane.
This deck was sweet. That last play of the last game flipping the fairy into two lands was brutal.
Great deck, that was cool
(The last game was super unfortunate, and I am sorry you died to flood - hate when that happens, especially with a great deck.)
I have a question about the Lamplight Phoenix interaction. During the prerelease, my opponent played push/pull and took my Phoenix, and did a similar thing that you did with collecting evidence to take over the bird permanently. I didn’t know the rules behind it but I thought the play was cool and let him do it, but after the match, the other players said that the phoenix would go to my graveyard and my opponent wouldn’t be able to use its ability to bring it back. But now seeing the interaction with Coerced to Kill, does that mean my opponent was actually right in keeping the phoenix?
24:00 man, I have to say, these moments are why I watch this stream. Good passion, my dude, made my day
This deck is super sweet. First time I've seen something like this go off in MKM.
In that last game you were 2% to draw that many lands according to the hypergeometric calculator 💀
Super fun deck, but the most fun is watching LSV enjoy playing it!
Really hoping to see this when Conundrum was previewed. Great job.
This was certainly a sweet deck, wouldn't have dared to draft it myself.
After playing quite a few drafts and watching even more on yt though, I'm starting to wonder: does anyone ever get 7 wins in this format? Even the most powerful draft decks seem to eventually run into some kind of random issues (screw, flood, opponents topdecking 5 turns in a row...). Perhaps it's a format that very easily snowballs once you start to fall behind.
Wow. I've been sleeping on Izzet this set, but now I really see the potential. So fun to see this in action, goes to show you there's a lot of good routes to go when drafting this set.
Have you tried drafting sultai in this set, Luis? I've been watching Alex Chord-O-Calls draft it and it looks pretty neat. A lot of powerful rares in this format are sultai colors, and the fixing green provides can make it work. Love the content!
Been absolutely adoring the none vintage cube drafts atm, like a breath of fresh air 🥰 don’t get me wrong though I love all your content
I lost a game this week to a string of lands when I had case of the crimson pulse…. I feel your pain
Man... Those light warning signs unpressed triggers me too much... Love your content Luis, please, pleaaaaase press them.
Love Luis' excitement when he gets a fun deck
I have never seen that much flood in a draft and I watch a lot!
You are not serious, are you? He drew like 5 lands in a row. It sounds impossible, but if you do the math, out of like 7 games per draft, including both players, the chances of that happening are quite high. I can do the actual math if you like, but from the top of my head I'd bet that at this happens either to you or to your opponent once every second draft...
I did the math just for fun. The chances of seeing a 5 land sequence in a game are about 9%. Which means that it will happen to you on average once every 11 games, or to either you or your opponent once every 5-6 games or so.
I assumed 40 cards deck, 17 lands, and that during the game a player draws anywhere between 7 to 33 cards at random, before the game ends. That last one is a bit speculative, but I doubt that the true value would change the result by a lot. Naturally, in faster formats its less likely to flood because the games are shorter.
30:22 "no reason to give them a clue here" the Homicide investigator says nontoken though
I kinda get why lsv got that one confused. You expect at some point when reading that card that they'll let it be good in some way but it is neutered in just about every possible axis that today's card design allows
something something He can't keep getting away with it
Is Cryptic Coat the contemporary Pack Rat?
Imo way more beatable, but similar vibes.
That's a pretty good comparison, but Pack Rat was still on a whole 'nother level of ridiculousness. The card was so sick that, in theory, a deck of 39 Swamps, 1 Pack Rat could still have a pretty good winrate. If you'd manage to mulligan into it and your opponent couldn't immediately kill it, it would take over the game. Plus the format around Pack Rat was weaker, I think.
Good to see you making the weird stuff in the format work
And the land gremlin strikes again! Super fun draft otherwise, though!
It might just be my weird sense of humor, but somehow Fuss and Bother sounds like Duck and Cover from that 50's propaganda movie. Makes me wonder why they havent made a Duck//Cover split card? Saving it for the eventual Fallout set maybe? :)
I really like MKM limited, went all the way from wood league to mythic already.
At 26:00, Why does the stolen phoenix return to the battlefield under your control? The phoenix doesn't specify whose control it enters under, so I thought it would default to going under the owner's control since there is no effect like coerced to kill giving it to you
exactly because it doesnt specify "return under owners control" that it lets you get it back
Yeah, because the triggered ability says "return it to the battlefield" without specifying whose control it enters under, it's the controller of the ability who gets it.
Enjoying the new format
Opening Vintage cube cards p1p1 is pretty nice.
this deck is awesome. mkm is such a sweet set
Does LSV just get given a Cryptic Coat every time he does an MKM Draft?
Finally a fun deck to watch
Loving the new set!!!
Been super unimpressed with Blue Red artifacts. Haven't been played all that much, but on every occasion it felt too slow and vulnerable to removal
This is the pro tour format? I’m curious to see how the play boosters do in a pro tour draft. I think it would be quite a poor showing if the extra rares were the most dominant factor in success.
It is
I still do not get the Lamplight Phoenix interaction. Usually when you exile a permenant and return it to the battlefield it returns under it's owner control??
The triggered ability goes on the stack referencing the creature’s controller when it died, and nothing on the card references “owner” like these cards usually do.
i got got by this in draft too, it feels like one of those cards they should have templated differently because this is a shitty gotcha imo
"i want to see bad cards" *draws best card in deck
Dang that deck was lit
What a fun deck.
amazing deck
What a sweet deck
Can’t believe you’re not going to play the candlesticks in a deck where you’re trying to turbomill.
Ugh. What a disheartening way to go out. Awesome deck though.
Draw five land in the top four cards? Yeah that does seem unlikely.
I don't think you are going to top this one.
odd that lsv thinks person of interest is bad considering it is the best red common in the set and the 5th best common overall according to 17lands...
6 mana make a clue? Busted.
2:10 Drop a (de)Deuce on turn 2
lsv cooked
look a deduce just drop one of these on your opponent on two..... cheeky LSV
Kylox looks like some 13 year old won a contest to design their own card and by contract wizards had to print it no matter what. It's just absolutely unplayable in any format. It contradicts what it's trying to do in the same block of text. Just a bizarre design choice.
It’s for token-making spells.
Last game lol...
Get Arena'd.
#TotallyRandom
Is a format with a whole bunch of Morph plays can really be considered "fast", tho ?
lol all the best things to be doing are basically anything but morphing, so yes.
yes. check the last episode of LR cast, marshal goes into the data.
It makes combat tricks OP, bc they circumvent Ward, and 2/2s can lose combats easily
LOL Passing forensic gadgeteer for LIVING CONUNDRUM?! Somebody stop this man.
mana lottery/
It’s hard to imagine I’ll watch a more FUN draft deck during this format