I've never seen somebody work so hard to restore a reproduction, that's tenacity! You probably made this thing better than it ever began. Most of those things didn't work right off the shelf with such a hodge-podge of parts from different machines. Good for you.
I used to repair gramaphon of those days it's really interesting job and enjoying work the important part is governed which is most delicate really I enjoyed it those days
@@BennyCFD It's actually fundamental to all record players. They operate by a needle being dragged through a groove, not shoved through one like a plow. The failure to note the function of any record player is sort of frightening considering the subject of the video.
Hillarious! So, if I put up a video that contains a REAL old gramophone, and let it play a REAL record - and as a bonus, put the needle down at the RIGHT side... Nobody would propaly see that video...
WE happen to like the silence while you simply deconstruct and reconstruct. My wife finds it fascinating. the last 3 comments were from "experts", right??
Recien lo veo, con qué limpiarte la bocina? No puedo creer que harina sal y vinagre haya hecho el milagro en la moldura, que belleza de aparato aunque no sea del todo original, gracias por compartirlo
@@Restomaniac yo tenia 2 para restaurar pero unos familiares se los llevaron, espero que los hayan tratado bien, igual ya estoy grande para esos proyectos,gracias Ismail buen domingo e inicio de semana
... привет ретроманьяк!-, в прошлом году был на базаре и видел ,чтостарьевщик продаёт похожий граммофон, захотелось купить себе, но цена оказалась кусачей целых 1000&, но твоя работа!-, как всегда на высоте лучшего реставратора я ещё не встречал, здоровья тебе и удачи во всём, новых творческих успехов!!!
El mejor de todos los videos que e visto en relación a funcionamiento y restauración 👏👏👏 Podria decirme si la aguja se puede limar para dejarla mas fina o es un error?
nice work, looks realy good.only csome recomandations, make sure you oil the leather of the break of the gouverner wheel, speedregulator, and also clean the spring that is in the spring housing and use new grease (I always use lithium grease) . than the speed will be much better and constant . also place the arm in the correct possition ( on the right side, not the backside) for the soundbox( where the needle is attached, you can use a drop parafinewax to seal the screw of the needle to the membrame complete airtight, this give an imroved sound quality .
Oh I just love to see this as i memorize my childhood i saw it in my store room their were plenty of them as my grandfather run a electric shop long ago..wish I could saved one..
@@Restomaniac İğne yerine kibrit çöpü ile bile çalan bir gramofon.Şimdilik herhangi bir işlem yapamıyorum.Belki ileride denerim.Yanıtınız için sağolun.
@@selimkurkcu Ustaların dediklerine göre, bir iğneyle yalnızca bir plak çalınırmış. Sonra iğneyi değiştirmek gerekirmiş :) Teşekkür ederim ben de ilginize :)
As others have said, this is an Indian made fake. But OK as a decorative piece. You should place the tone arm on the opposite side of the record, by the way!
Even though this is definitely a fake gramophone, it does look to have some quality components in it. The motor could be out of a decent HMV portable, and the tonearm looks to be from a portable too. I have the base unit from a much more modern similar fake. Mine looks much the same, but all the parts are recently made, including the motor and the quality is noticeably inferior
I was a bit hesitant to point out that this gramophone is a fake made in India. They are taking parts of old gramophones and putting them in this box plus a new funnel to make it look older than it is. A friend of mine had bought an exact duplicate of this model and was very disappointed to find it was a fake. You can see that it has been made up of different parts because of the HMV badge and the Columbia speed indicator (different company). Still, great work.
@@andreashale1482 Yes, I think it would be a great disappointment to buy one of these and then find out it was a fake. Since my previous comment I have found another complete one which has a genuine Garrard motor, but not sure if any of the other components are genuine. Most of it is definitely fake. These fakes also tend to play poorly as they don't have decent soundboxes or tracking. I have tested quite a few different sounboxes on my channel and have a couple of the usual fake ones, and plan to test and dismantle these at some point.
As you mentioned, my friends fake sounded absolutely dreadful, whereas my HMV portable has an amazing sound and an incredible volume. I am in complete awe at those people, that could produce such sound just with purely mechanical means.
New subscriber here , I love this! I can say that with confidence after binge watching your vids all afternoon. I have two original gramophones ready to repair in my garage. Wish you lived next door, or at least in the same country. Well done. A beautiful piece of machinery ready for the next 100 years.
In my humble opinion, you should have just restored the mechanism and left the horn and wood cabinet alone. The thing is old; it should look old. But I enjoyed watching the video and seeing how those old phonographs worked.
Videonun bazı yerlerini hızlandırın. 30 dk fazla uzun. Gerektiğinde mikrofon kullanın. Video giriş ve sonuç introlarını güzel yapın. Türkiyeden de güzel bir restorasyon hesabı çıksın.
Hızlı olması sizin için iyi olabilir. ama beraberinde tamir yapanların. iyi anlaması bakımından. bence yavaş olması iyi olmuş. yani öğrenmek adına değer.zaman boşa gitmiyor faydalı bir paylaşım olmuş. hemen küçük oğlumla bakacağım. onun ilgi alanı ahşap oyma.çok meraklı kendisi uğraşıp duruyor. elinide kesti daha dikkatli olduk bu arada. ve tamire çok meraklı.şimdiden tamir ettiği şeyler var evde. teşekkürler elleriniz dert görmesin .
The diaphragm in the reproducer needs to be replaced. This one won't sound very good or loud. It's easy to find a new replacement. Personally I would give it a bit more stain, and finish off with lacquer, but of course that's your decision. But besides that now all you need is to go out and get some really cool 78's, and a good stack of needles. An old bastard like that will keep the party going, even if a solarstorm knocks us back to the stoneage.
Good work and nice looking player. Really decorative and I would not mind having one buy never play any recirds newer than 1930 they are not ment to be played on steel needles. Wasn't a problem back then because record shops were in every corner and costed 15 cents.
With all due respect but if you know how a Gramophono works, if you check your video, you will realize that you have just spoiled your Disk since I put the needle on the wrong side causing your disk to scratch. the needle is placed from the center to the right side not from the center to the left side because by the inclination of the needle instead of just caressing the disc and following the engraving on the acetate and catching the undulations made, you just put the needle in the opposite direction causing the tip instead of stroking the acetate to scratch and deform the engraving. Not everyone is a restorer, that is clear to me. To buy a new disc and the parts that are damaged or broken are replaced in a restoration or a restoration is really done in which the pieces remain functional.
That was amazing job, the only thing that I wasn't very sure that I like it was the wooden body, it need more car to hide the years pass on it, I know you did a fine job for the all parts and I loved it, the wood body needs more work, or, maybe use a modern Ideas like using a cars paints with any color you want, nice job my friend.
You restored an indian fake machine made in the 1970s that Will forever sound terribly!!! And you are also playing that vynil on the wrong side, with probably less money you could have repaired an original portable machine! And probably also got some 78s to play on it with 100 times more quality! Collectors burn those machines and takes some good parts out of them
I use apple cider vinegar and salt - warmed in the microwave- and then left overnight to get rust off my outdoor stuff; works a treat and isn't likely to remove my skin if I drip it on myself. lol! I will say the cabinet doesn't look finished - it needs another couple of coats of stain and then some satin varnish or clear lacquer over it.
First of all. A M A Z I N G job you did! 🤩🎶👌🏻As an 31 year old lover af His Master’s Voice gramophone and lp, music in genuine, it’s a sight for the eye. But I don’t know all the facts! 🤷🏼♀️ 😇 I LOVE the esthetic I LOVE the sound. AND I have always had a dream about hearing my music totally from it! (and sorry to say, I only found out years ago, that isn’t the same 😉😇) 🎶 So my BIG QUESTION IS, can you make it work with the “new” lp? 🙏🏻😍 THAT’S ‘ my BIG DREAM! 🥰🤩🎶👌🏻❤️👊🏻 - Louise. 🤗
Thank you back for connecting. But you didn’t answer my question! 😉🤪😇 I see now, that I stumbled amongst some words! 🥴 But I’m from Denmark and I was just woke up from a nap, and was a bit sleepy 😴🙄🤷🏼♀️ The question was, the newer LP, the biggest one! Can you make them play on the good old His Masters Voice? Make a DIY?! ❤️👏🏻🙏🏻 What is it that makes the difference? THANK YOU for answering! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Love, Louise.
@@louiseringsmose Hi louise, you would need a completely different arm to make that work. The speed would also need to be adjusted with some modification of the mechanism (not easy I think). Lastly, you will need electronic amplification of the sound of an LP. Hence you'll need an amp and speakers. No way around it I'm afraid. The best way to achieve it is to modify a record player to look a bit like a gramophone. Greetings from Belgium
@@kurtjakins6396 yeah. I've been repairing and restoring phonographs for years, but because of these fake ones, people have the misconception that they sound bad. They can actually sound incredibly good.
It's a good thing it was a repro. He screwed up any kind of antique value it had as soon as he removed the patina and refinished the case..... And he keeps using needle nose pliers on everything. USE PROPER TOOLS TO 'RESTORE'
@@Hofsan well as a phonograph restorer, patina doesnt really add to much value, as patina adds value when it's the main source of identification of age, such as with jewelry. But with phonographs, there are many other ways in which you can identify its authenticity. While original finish is desired, if something is refinished properly and accurately, it can still retain a lot of its value.
Great Restoration! But! The sound box with needle is suppose to play from the right side not left. Pluss, It's for 78 RPM records not vinyl microgroove records.
I would caution that in practice, it's not necessary to disassemble the motor as far as was done here. Just disassemble enough to thoroughly clean and lubricate the mechanism. Plus, I liked the patina on the horn before it was scrubbed off.
Why why why did you strip it?? It ruined the finish and made the value drop over half Other than that great job Enjoyed your video and gave it a Thumbs Up
Yeah I agree , when you stripped it it should have been completely done , could still see paint in the grooves and looked tacky ( so sorry ) , in this case you are not meant to see the wood underneath and if you do it has to be uniform and spotless , just my opinion. Oh and a store bought metal cleaner would work wonders on the horn .
Good morning. I'm not a specialist, but I think you did a good job with the mechanical part of this machine. On the other hand, I'm sorry to say, the wooden crate is downright missed. No one at the time would have spent a lot of money, because it cost a lot, in something like that. The wood should be either waxed or varnished. Leaving the wood like that is a good mistake. You have to make up and redo the cash register. Also for the copper part you have to make it sparkling. That's how it was back then. When you do a restoration the goal is to make it as it was when it was made. The drawing of the wood should be covered with paint and varnished. I hope my comment did not offend you because that was not my intention.
This is a fake made in India in recent years. You will find dozens of them for sale on eBay for around 80 to 120 pounds. You can also find them being bought for hundreds of pounds from unscrupulous people who sell them as original. They are made by taking the workings from a defunct Gramophone and building a new case around them. The angle of the winding handle on this one indicates that this motor came from a portable. Without that angle there would not be enough height on a portable to clear the surface the machine is sat on. Gramophones did not have brass horns. The manufacturers quickly realised that brass on a Gramophone horn just made it sound tinny. Cheaper machines had tin plated steel, more expensive machines wood. Unfortunately these fakes are so common now that people believe the authentic sound should be tinny. Keep the motor out of this one and bin the rest of it. Buy yourself a real one.
great detailed Restauration/repair I like it! the only sad thing is the gramophone is a fake, not the usual India fake but one probably from Afghanistan India fakes have fake motors as well very bad repro's of the Garrard no 20 motor. this one has an original motor of the type HMV used to make and use in the portable models 87 and 88 however this is a USSR Russian copy of such a motor from the 1940s to 60s thus I came to the conclusion that this is an afghani machine. as Crap-O-Phones go this is a better one the soundbox is real the motor is real so the sound will be very much better than the usual India crapo, eh, that is, if you place the tone-arm on the opposite side of the record and use a 78rpm record. also visit my channel to learn more about the wonderful world of antique gramophones/phonographs.
This is what is commonly called a Frankenphone, a gramophone made up of a mixture of original and new parts. The horn, horn support and possibly the tone arm are original, the motor is from an HMV portable, probably a model 101, 102 or similar. the soundbox looks like a 5A and would have been a good one at one time but the diaphragm has been ruined. The case is brand new and probably made in India, I'm surprised you got it to work at all.
Since the resonator is positioned on the left hand side, and not on the right, I'm guessing that plumbing is not one of this fellow's strong points but I like to think he did his very best.
Absurd spectacle of errors. I have restored many actual Victrolas, and I believe that you should leave such things to skilled people who know how they should actually be played, at least.
Unfortunately the whole machine is a reproduction, most likely made in India in recent years, the reason the winding handle points up is because the motor is taken from a portable gramophone, the rest of the parts are of modern production and unfortunately not meant to play records very well
öncelikle iyi bayramlar güzel insan ismail kardeşim harika bir meşkale oluşturmuşun başarılar dilerim.eski radyo gramofon pikap gibi ürünlerin malzamesi lazım olursa karaköyde galata kulesinin orada netses diye bir dükkan var sahibi cem nayır tarihi bir tamircidir selamımı söyle yeter :)
Creo que no se merece tanto trabajo un gramofono de este tipo, este aparato es una mexcla no muy acertada de piezas de diferentes modelos de diferentes epocas, y muchas ni siquiera respetan ser modelos originales. Lo felicito por el trabajo, aunque ciertas partes no las comparto, en su hacer. Pero no veo el sentido en renovar un aparato de esta calidad y cualidad. Atentamente
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I've never seen somebody work so hard to restore a reproduction, that's tenacity! You probably made this thing better than it ever began. Most of those things didn't work right off the shelf with such a hodge-podge of parts from different machines. Good for you.
Thank you very much for your kind comments :)
أشكرك على هذه المهارة في الإصلاح والتنظيف عمل ممتاز حفاظا على مدياع قديم 👍
شكرا 😊🤗
I admire your passion and patience to restore a vintage player.
Thank you very much 😊🤗
If you dont move the arm back into right position, you are gonna have a swell vinyl grinder, and not a music player, needle is going the wrong way.
Thank you very much for your comments.
I used to repair gramaphon of those days it's really interesting job and enjoying work the important part is governed which is most delicate really I enjoyed it those days
I noticed that also.............A keen eye.
@@BennyCFD It's actually fundamental to all record players. They operate by a needle being dragged through a groove, not shoved through one like a plow. The failure to note the function of any record player is sort of frightening considering the subject of the video.
It's also permanently damaging to any modern vinyl record to be scratched with a steel needle used on gramophones. Huge difference in size.
Hillarious! So, if I put up a video that contains a REAL old gramophone, and let it play a REAL record - and as a bonus, put the needle down at the RIGHT side... Nobody would propaly see that video...
WE happen to like the silence while you simply deconstruct and reconstruct. My wife finds it fascinating. the last 3 comments were from "experts", right??
Thank you very much :)
Holistik masaj tavsiyesiyle kanalınızdayım.insallh kanalınız hayırlı bereketli olsun. .
yıldız ' Teşekkür ederim efendim. Hoş geldiniz 😊
Good effort, great to watch. Also interesting to see just how badly made those Indian fakes really are.
Holistik masaj terapilerinin tavsiyesi üzerine kanalınıza geldim,hayırlı olsun.
Teşekkürler, hoş geldiniz efendim. Umarım çalışmalar hoşunuza gider. Saygılar.
Hoş buldum tekrar hayırlı olsun,dilerim holistik masaj terapileri gibi faydalı bir kanal olur...
Brilliant job, loved Pinky and Perky on the record.
Hahaha :) Thanks. You are right :)
Recien lo veo, con qué limpiarte la bocina? No puedo creer que harina sal y vinagre haya hecho el milagro en la moldura, que belleza de aparato aunque no sea del todo original, gracias por compartirlo
Muchas gracias, querida María. También podemos limpiar la bocina frotándola lentamente con un paño con vinagre.
@@Restomaniac yo tenia 2 para restaurar pero unos familiares se los llevaron, espero que los hayan tratado bien, igual ya estoy grande para esos proyectos,gracias Ismail buen domingo e inicio de semana
Can't go wrong with a gramophone boasting both RCA and Columbia labels. I kept waiting for a shock from one of the amplifier's capacitors.
Thank you for your comment.
Great
Holistik masaj dan geldim başarılar
Hoş geldiniz, çok teşekkür ederim. Umarım videolar hoşunuza gider. Saygılar.
Right now I start to see this video, I amazing for your work, finally you have a jewel!!!
Thank you very much 😊🤗
Want to repair mine I just bought, and this is helping a lot, thank you!
Elinize emeğinize sağlık. Ferdi'ciler görmesin döverler vallahi. :D
Teşekkür ederim 😊
Nice reproduction, much better than most.
Thank you very much :)
... привет ретроманьяк!-, в прошлом году был на базаре и видел ,чтостарьевщик продаёт похожий граммофон, захотелось купить себе, но цена оказалась кусачей целых 1000&, но твоя работа!-, как всегда на высоте лучшего реставратора я ещё не встречал, здоровья тебе и удачи во всём, новых творческих успехов!!!
Вы очень добры, спасибо большое :)
REALMENTE.... fantástico.
Y EXCELENTE......!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🇨🇴
El mejor de todos los videos que e visto en relación a funcionamiento y restauración 👏👏👏
Podria decirme si la aguja se puede limar para dejarla mas fina o es un error?
Next time squeeze the gramophone arm on the other side to avoid scratching the vinyl record and to make it sound better
Fantastic job greatly appreciated thank you
Thank you 😊🤗
Hayirli olsun başkan
Teşekkürler. Saygılar.
Beautiful restoration and loved that you used all the original parts and the horn wow stunning that must be a keeper
Thank you very much :)
Граммофон очень красивый, действительно что произведение искусства 🥰
This is Amazing....back in time......Nipper your masters voice....RCA thank you...rick.
Thank you very much :)
Holistik masaj terapisinden geldim bende
Hoş geldiniz edendim. Çok teşekkür ederim. Umarım çalışmalarım da hoşunuza gider. Saygılar
Great restoration! original or not (probably repro) its decorative!! looks Great!
Thank you so much :)
Great restoration.
Thank you :)
Hayırlı olsun.
Metin yaşar Teşekkür ederim, hoş geldiniz. 😊
nice work, looks realy good.only csome recomandations, make sure you oil the leather of the break of the gouverner wheel, speedregulator, and also clean the spring that is in the spring housing and use new grease (I always use lithium grease) . than the speed will be much better and constant . also place the arm in the correct possition ( on the right side, not the backside) for the soundbox( where the needle is attached, you can use a drop parafinewax to seal the screw of the needle to the membrame complete airtight, this give an imroved sound quality .
Thank you very much for your advices 😊🤗
Oh I just love to see this as i memorize my childhood i saw it in my store room their were plenty of them as my grandfather run a electric shop long ago..wish I could saved one..
Sorry for the late reply. Thanks a lot for your comments.
you are a skilled and talented mechanic sir. I know nothing of gramophones.
Thank you very much :)
Excelente trabajo pero me quedo una duda sobre la manivela en parte alta parece de un gramo fono de maleta... Solo esa observación
Basarili olun hep☺
Çok teşekkür ederim ☺
Güzel çalışma.Kutlarım.Bende de bu gramofondan var ama sizin kadar cesaretli değilim tamir için.İyi günler.
Selim Kurkcu Çok teşekkür ederim Selim Bey. En azından üst kısmı açıp, yağlamayı deneyebilirsiniz. Belki sorunu yağsızlıktır. Sevgiler.
@@Restomaniac İğne yerine kibrit çöpü ile bile çalan bir gramofon.Şimdilik herhangi bir işlem yapamıyorum.Belki ileride denerim.Yanıtınız için sağolun.
@@selimkurkcu Ustaların dediklerine göre, bir iğneyle yalnızca bir plak çalınırmış. Sonra iğneyi değiştirmek gerekirmiş :) Teşekkür ederim ben de ilginize :)
Eklerine saglik super👍
Teşekkür ederim :)
As others have said, this is an Indian made fake. But OK as a decorative piece. You should place the tone arm on the opposite side of the record, by the way!
Thank you for your comments.
Holistik masaj tavsiyesiyle geldim, merakla izledim efendim:))
Hoş geldiniz efendim. Çok teşekkür ederim. Umarım videolar da hoşunuza gider. Saygılar
Ben de
Beautiful my friend!
Thank you very much.
Хорош граммофон,с советским тонармом и головкой М.П.З. или Северный пресс.
Great job of restoration, and you got all those tiny pieces back together. Well done, I hope it brings you much enjoyment.
Thank you very much. Yes, it was a very enjoyable process for me.:)
Piękny eksponat.
Gratuluje posiadania i emocji związanych z renowacją.
Szkoda, że finałowa scena filmu jest bez płyty 78 obr/min. Clasyka 👍👏
Bardzo dziękuję za zainteresowanie i komentarze. :)
Even though this is definitely a fake gramophone, it does look to have some quality components in it. The motor could be out of a decent HMV portable, and the tonearm looks to be from a portable too.
I have the base unit from a much more modern similar fake. Mine looks much the same, but all the parts are recently made, including the motor and the quality is noticeably inferior
Sorry for the late reply. Thanks a lot for your comments.
I was a bit hesitant to point out that this gramophone is a fake made in India. They are taking parts of old gramophones and putting them in this box plus a new funnel to make it look older than it is. A friend of mine had bought an exact duplicate of this model and was very disappointed to find it was a fake. You can see that it has been made up of different parts because of the HMV badge and the Columbia speed indicator (different company). Still, great work.
@@andreashale1482 Yes, I think it would be a great disappointment to buy one of these and then find out it was a fake. Since my previous comment I have found another complete one which has a genuine Garrard motor, but not sure if any of the other components are genuine. Most of it is definitely fake. These fakes also tend to play poorly as they don't have decent soundboxes or tracking. I have tested quite a few different sounboxes on my channel and have a couple of the usual fake ones, and plan to test and dismantle these at some point.
As you mentioned, my friends fake sounded absolutely dreadful, whereas my HMV portable has an amazing sound and an incredible volume. I am in complete awe at those people, that could produce such sound just with purely mechanical means.
@@andreashale1482 The HMV 102...finest portable ever mae.
Holistik masaj şeysinden geldimm🤣
Hüşgeldiniz efendim. Teşekkür ederim. Umarım videolar da hoşunuza gider. Saygılar 😊
Allah seni güldürsün :)))😀 ama ne güldüm ya .
@Holistik Masaj Terapileri Akademisi siz tavsiye ettiniz diye bizde baktık yaptığı işe sabır ister.
Üstadım tebrik ederim.sanırım disk biraz hızlı dönüyor.eminim ayarını yapmışsınızdır.
Teşekkür ederim Mustafa Bey. Evet biraz ayar yapmak gerekti.
Ellerine sağlık çok güzel olmuş harika
Sağol canım :))
New subscriber here , I love this! I can say that with confidence after binge watching your vids all afternoon. I have two original gramophones ready to repair in my garage. Wish you lived next door, or at least in the same country. Well done. A beautiful piece of machinery ready for the next 100 years.
Thank you for your kind comments and subscription :)
Don't forget - new gaskets for the reproducer make a big difference in sound. Amazing work, though.
Thank you very much for your comments 😊
Very Nice work !!
Thank you :)
Great work✌🏻
Serhat Kurtay Thanks 😊😊
In my humble opinion, you should have just restored the mechanism and left the horn and wood cabinet alone. The thing is old; it should look old. But I enjoyed watching the video and seeing how those old phonographs worked.
Thank you very much for your comment.
sadly this is a fake gramophone.
I enjoyed the restoration, thank you!
Thank you very much :)
Videonun bazı yerlerini hızlandırın. 30 dk fazla uzun. Gerektiğinde mikrofon kullanın. Video giriş ve sonuç introlarını güzel yapın. Türkiyeden de güzel bir restorasyon hesabı çıksın.
Teşekkürler efendim. Dikkate alacağız elbette. Saygılar.
Hızlı olması sizin için iyi olabilir. ama beraberinde tamir yapanların. iyi anlaması bakımından. bence yavaş olması iyi olmuş. yani öğrenmek adına değer.zaman boşa gitmiyor faydalı bir paylaşım olmuş. hemen küçük oğlumla bakacağım. onun ilgi alanı ahşap oyma.çok meraklı kendisi uğraşıp duruyor. elinide kesti daha dikkatli olduk bu arada. ve tamire çok meraklı.şimdiden tamir ettiği şeyler var evde. teşekkürler elleriniz dert görmesin .
@@adaletyok1205 Çok teşekkür ederim efendim :)
@@Restomaniac estafurullah seve seve.
Well what do you expect on these old Machines some of them are over a 100 Years old
The diaphragm in the reproducer needs to be replaced. This one won't sound very good or loud. It's easy to find a new replacement.
Personally I would give it a bit more stain, and finish off with lacquer, but of course that's your decision. But besides that now all you need is to go out and get some really cool 78's, and a good stack of needles. An old bastard like that will keep the party going, even if a solarstorm knocks us back to the stoneage.
Thank you very much for your suggestions
Good work and nice looking player. Really decorative and I would not mind having one buy never play any recirds newer than 1930 they are not ment to be played on steel needles. Wasn't a problem back then because record shops were in every corner and costed 15 cents.
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Definitely need an old victrola record.
WONDERFUL JOB......chef JACK
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With all due respect but if you know how a Gramophono works, if you check your video, you will realize that you have just spoiled your Disk since I put the needle on the wrong side causing your disk to scratch. the needle is placed from the center to the right side not from the center to the left side because by the inclination of the needle instead of just caressing the disc and following the engraving on the acetate and catching the undulations made, you just put the needle in the opposite direction causing the tip instead of stroking the acetate to scratch and deform the engraving. Not everyone is a restorer, that is clear to me.
To buy a new disc and the parts that are damaged or broken are replaced in a restoration or a restoration is really done in which the pieces remain functional.
Yes you are right. Thanks for your comments.
That was amazing job, the only thing that I wasn't very sure that I like it was the wooden body, it need more car to hide the years pass on it, I know you did a fine job for the all parts and I loved it, the wood body needs more work, or, maybe use a modern Ideas like using a cars paints with any color you want, nice job my friend.
Stunningly beautiful piece, thank you for restoring it to its former glory.
Thank you so much :)
Mister ! I enjoyed the video A LOT !
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Those are so cool I have seen the ones that play Bluetooth and they are also cool
Thank you so much :)
You restored an indian fake machine made in the 1970s that Will forever sound terribly!!! And you are also playing that vynil on the wrong side, with probably less money you could have repaired an original portable machine! And probably also got some 78s to play on it with 100 times more quality! Collectors burn those machines and takes some good parts out of them
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I use apple cider vinegar and salt - warmed in the microwave- and then left overnight to get rust off my outdoor stuff; works a treat and isn't likely to remove my skin if I drip it on myself. lol! I will say the cabinet doesn't look finished - it needs another couple of coats of stain and then some satin varnish or clear lacquer over it.
Thank you for your comments and suggestions.
First of all. A M A Z I N G job you did! 🤩🎶👌🏻As an 31 year old lover af His Master’s Voice gramophone and lp, music in genuine, it’s a sight for the eye. But I don’t know all the facts! 🤷🏼♀️ 😇 I LOVE the esthetic I LOVE the sound.
AND I have always had a dream about hearing my music totally from it! (and sorry to say, I only found out years ago, that isn’t the same 😉😇) 🎶
So my BIG QUESTION IS, can you make it work with the “new” lp? 🙏🏻😍 THAT’S ‘ my BIG DREAM! 🥰🤩🎶👌🏻❤️👊🏻
- Louise. 🤗
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Thank you back for connecting. But you didn’t answer my question! 😉🤪😇 I see now, that I stumbled amongst some words! 🥴 But I’m from Denmark and I was just woke up from a nap, and was a bit sleepy 😴🙄🤷🏼♀️
The question was, the newer LP, the biggest one! Can you make them play on the good old His Masters Voice? Make a DIY?! ❤️👏🏻🙏🏻
What is it that makes the difference?
THANK YOU for answering!
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Love, Louise.
@@louiseringsmose Hi louise, you would need a completely different arm to make that work. The speed would also need to be adjusted with some modification of the mechanism (not easy I think). Lastly, you will need electronic amplification of the sound of an LP. Hence you'll need an amp and speakers. No way around it I'm afraid. The best way to achieve it is to modify a record player to look a bit like a gramophone. Greetings from Belgium
Unfortunately this is a fake, made in recent past in India...
I was wondering why all the screws and nuts looked so damn modern
@@kurtjakins6396 yeah. I've been repairing and restoring phonographs for years, but because of these fake ones, people have the misconception that they sound bad. They can actually sound incredibly good.
I thought so, it just didn't look right.
It's a good thing it was a repro. He screwed up any kind of antique value it had as soon as he removed the patina and refinished the case..... And he keeps using needle nose pliers on everything. USE PROPER TOOLS TO 'RESTORE'
@@Hofsan well as a phonograph restorer, patina doesnt really add to much value, as patina adds value when it's the main source of identification of age, such as with jewelry. But with phonographs, there are many other ways in which you can identify its authenticity. While original finish is desired, if something is refinished properly and accurately, it can still retain a lot of its value.
Great Restoration! But! The sound box with needle is suppose to play from the right side not left. Pluss, It's for 78 RPM records not vinyl microgroove records.
Outstanding job mate!!
Thank you :)
I would caution that in practice, it's not necessary to disassemble the motor as far as was done here. Just disassemble enough to thoroughly clean and lubricate the mechanism. Plus, I liked the patina on the horn before it was scrubbed off.
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Excellent job here. Don't know why, but I was expecting that at the end you played "One more kiss dear" by Don Percival.
Thank you very much, sir 😊😊
Taky ho mám his Master více kufřikovej před včirem sem byl proněho po namazani je
@@beatlesak537 používej překladač doprdele!!! Napadlo tě třeba že ti nemusí rozumět???
At least the reproduction ones use a cheap brass horn so we can all immediately tell they aren't genuine His Masters Voice
Why why why did you strip it?? It ruined the finish and made the value drop over half Other than that great job
Enjoyed your video and gave it a Thumbs Up
Thank you very much for your comment. Yes, you are right. It actually looked nice, but it had brown paint inside. That's why I stripped it.
@@Restomaniac just get rid of the brown paint?
@@DaleDix
And, I wanted to see the wood
@@Restomaniac I would have only striped that then. Live and learn :)
Yeah I agree , when you stripped it it should have been completely done , could still see paint in the grooves and looked tacky ( so sorry ) , in this case you are not meant to see the wood underneath and if you do it has to be uniform and spotless , just my opinion. Oh and a store bought metal cleaner would work wonders on the horn .
My favorite video bro
Kalim Pasha Thank you very much 😊
Great Work sir !!
Thank you very much.
I have a big old one on these music players but when I put the needle down it slows down and stops... how do I fix this?
There must be a problem in the mechanism that reduces torque. It may be necessary to clean and re-lubricate.
Good morning. I'm not a specialist, but I think you did a good job with the mechanical part of this machine. On the other hand, I'm sorry to say, the wooden crate is downright missed. No one at the time would have spent a lot of money, because it cost a lot, in something like that. The wood should be either waxed or varnished. Leaving the wood like that is a good mistake. You have to make up and redo the cash register. Also for the copper part you have to make it sparkling. That's how it was back then. When you do a restoration the goal is to make it as it was when it was made. The drawing of the wood should be covered with paint and varnished. I hope my comment did not offend you because that was not my intention.
Hello there. Sorry for my late reply. Thank you very much for all your comments. Happy new year :)
This is a fake made in India in recent years. You will find dozens of them for sale on eBay for around 80 to 120 pounds. You can also find them being bought for hundreds of pounds from unscrupulous people who sell them as original.
They are made by taking the workings from a defunct Gramophone and building a new case around them. The angle of the winding handle on this one indicates that this motor came from a portable. Without that angle there would not be enough height on a portable to clear the surface the machine is sat on.
Gramophones did not have brass horns. The manufacturers quickly realised that brass on a Gramophone horn just made it sound tinny. Cheaper machines had tin plated steel, more expensive machines wood. Unfortunately these fakes are so common now that people believe the authentic sound should be tinny.
Keep the motor out of this one and bin the rest of it. Buy yourself a real one.
Thank you very much for your enlightening information and comments.
Perfect restorration 👍
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great detailed Restauration/repair I like it!
the only sad thing is the gramophone is a fake, not the usual India fake but one probably from Afghanistan India fakes have fake motors as well very bad repro's of the Garrard no 20 motor.
this one has an original motor of the type HMV used to make and use in the portable models 87 and 88 however this is a USSR Russian copy of such a motor from the 1940s to 60s thus I came to the conclusion that this is an afghani machine.
as Crap-O-Phones go this is a better one the soundbox is real the motor is real so the sound will be very much better than the usual India crapo, eh, that is, if you place the tone-arm on the opposite side of the record and use a 78rpm record.
also visit my channel to learn more about the wonderful world of antique gramophones/phonographs.
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It looks like the needle is on the wrong side of the spindle.
Yes or the platter is turning the wrong way. It's just carving a new groove?
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@@Restomaniac Do you even Care?
ferdi özbegen plağı hemde kervan plak tam bir türk zevki
Mehmet ali Deveci Ah bir de taş plak olaydı 😊😊
Good
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This is what is commonly called a Frankenphone, a gramophone made up of a mixture of original and new parts. The horn, horn support and possibly the tone arm are original, the motor is from an HMV portable, probably a model 101, 102 or similar. the soundbox looks like a 5A and would have been a good one at one time but the diaphragm has been ruined. The case is brand new and probably made in India, I'm surprised you got it to work at all.
Thank you for your comments, sir.
Since the resonator is positioned on the left hand side, and not on the right, I'm guessing that plumbing is not one of this fellow's strong points but I like to think he did his very best.
Sorry for the late reply. Thanks a lot for your comments.
the needle should go in the direction of travel, and not vice versa you cut the plate so
Thank you very much for your comment. Yes, you are right.
Absurd spectacle of errors. I have restored many actual Victrolas, and I believe that you should leave such things to skilled people who know how they should actually be played, at least.
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Restauro a base di martellate piazzate alla belle meglio... Strumenti inadeguati, Meglio xhe vada a restaurare altri tipi di oggetti!!!!
Grazie per i tuoi commenti.
maravilhoso encantador
Please do something about de-interlacing your videos in the future. That will make them more watchable.
Ignat Solovey Thank you very much for your comment. Yes you are right. i will pay attention too much.
O braço da agulha está ao contrário.
Whow he has an original record from Alvin and the Chipmunks.
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puts the needle on the wrong side of the record LOL
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@@Restomaniac Do you even Care?
You may want to shoot with your camera set to progressive video. Gets rid of the combing effect.
Thank you for your comment. Yes, you are right. Especially the white background increases the combing effect.
NEVER EVER use a normal record on a gramophon. That is a sacrilege. Only schellac has to be used on a gramophon. Specially if it is so well restored.
benerabilis Thank you for your comment. Yes you are right. Also record remained in scracth.
Unfortunately the whole machine is a reproduction, most likely made in India in recent years, the reason the winding handle points up is because the motor is taken from a portable gramophone, the rest of the parts are of modern production and unfortunately not meant to play records very well
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öncelikle iyi bayramlar güzel insan ismail kardeşim harika bir meşkale oluşturmuşun başarılar dilerim.eski radyo gramofon pikap gibi ürünlerin malzamesi lazım olursa karaköyde galata kulesinin orada netses diye bir dükkan var sahibi cem nayır tarihi bir tamircidir selamımı söyle yeter :)
Geç yanıt için özür dilerim, Tuncay'cığım. Çok teşekkür ederim :)
fantastico, almeno adesso so come funziona un grammofono ma avresti dovuto farcelo sentire con un 78 rpm :D
Hahaha, hai ragione, grazie :)
bravo
Thank you :)
Creo que no se merece tanto trabajo un gramofono de este tipo, este aparato es una mexcla no muy acertada de piezas de diferentes modelos de diferentes epocas, y muchas ni siquiera respetan ser modelos originales.
Lo felicito por el trabajo, aunque ciertas partes no las comparto, en su hacer.
Pero no veo el sentido en renovar un aparato de esta calidad y cualidad.
Atentamente