This is lovely! It really shows that you don't need to make it look like it did originally for it to look good, I have a 1945 HMV 102 that is very similar, though it's coverings are in perfect condition and I would never dream of re-covering it.
Beautifully done, but a word of warning to anyone considering doing the same. Felt is a terrible choice to line the inside with, as it is an open fiber and will trap dirt and stains, even from touching it. Over time, it will be the thing in this instrument that deteriorates and shows decline. It's really hard to clean felt.
Just came across your TH-cam channel and subscribed 👍!! I enjoy the restoration of these very much. Gramophones produce some of the most beautiful music 🎶. Too bad 👎 they were put to shame 🫠 by the more modernized record player. Your friend, Jeff!!
Fantastic result. I would like to have seen a little less of the old vinyl removal from the case, and any work you may have done to service the clockwork mechanism.
thank u for this video!! I have one the same (interestingly with similar damage also) am in the process of restoring so really useful as I lost the photos I took where to put everything back together again 🙃
I have an old record player belong to my nan that I always wanted to restore but never knew how, decided to Google it today and the first video that popped up was yours and its the EXACT same one, thank you for this
Great job, lot of work involved, glad you did it whichever way you wanted, I an recovering a 101 at the minuts as the cover is gone, and you have just inspired me to do it the way I want it- Thanks
nice restoration! only using felt (green) for platter base is bad idea because it can effect the flawless movement of mechanism and these part need to lubricant time by time. A solid polished wood or plywood would have been a better option. Overall looking good.
Lovely EMI 102 I have a 1939 model … have cleaned it up a bit but not some much other than mechanically clean it all,down and lubricate the motor and working parts. I wonder why it’s all black, when originally it was blue, has it been in a dirty environment or a fire perhaps, smoke damage?
My father cleared out my grandma house while I was at work I said save the gramophone I’ll restore it He put it in the local skip Before he got back to his car a man fished it out At least it found a new life I could not give it!!!
Хорошая работа, я тоже восстановил патифон, но оставил в том состоянии как есть, только сделал рабочим, ЛАЙК, Вы откуда будете, я просто Ваше объявление на олх нашёл
@DIDALL love the veneer! Great job! Was this poor thing in a fire? That was a serious amount of damage! What wheel and compound did you use on the hardware please?
@@DIDALL looks idendical , have a look on google defdonatlly a clone of a 102 ,Lovley job on your work its very impressive ! I would love to do the same on mine
Can you show how you did the corners of the wood veneer. I've got a really tatty 101 in my collection and I would like to have a go but I'm concerned how the corners were formed
there is nothing complicated here, first make a mark with a pencil where the seams of the lining should be, so that later it would be easier to cut, you need to use contact glue (analogue of a shoe), smooth the corners with a board, the glue seized immediately, used glue with the name (nairit GTA BOTERM), and then cut off only the rest of the veneer. I recommend applying the glue exactly to the extent that the piece of veneer should be, that is, no more than the area marked for a particular piece.
Although I can appreciate the technical skills and the ability to take a record player like this apart and then renew it, the only thing I did not really like was the veneer, it somehow makes it look too new. Some of these old record players in my country had real Oregon Pine as a base, and they look really beautiful when the material is removed and the real wood underneath restored. But you have to work with what you have, I understand that
@KING VICTROLA I know. But I would still prefer a natural case such as wood, above a manmade material. Even if the object gets a few dents and scractchmarks with time, it looks nicer and reflects the history of the piece. I have a yellowwood table which I inherited from my parents, and will not dream of putting sandpaper to it, you can see that it has been used and served a purpose, every mark on it was caused by a family member either baking or cutting bread
@@goforgold7082 Many portable gramophones aren't entirely made from timber, the top and bottom are made from a type of fibreboard so the veneer was necessary. Some of the earlier portables had timber cases which do look good. I think the timber cases ended up being considered old fashioned and it became more fashionable to have portables look like leather cases, as well as it being cheaper and a bit lighter to use thin fibreboard. Interestingly, the HMV 102 (which this gramophone is a copy of) and the 101 had for the standard version a beautiful varnished timber motorboard, whereas for the coloured de luxe versions the motorboard was covered in the same Rexine as the rest of the case.
Автор провел большую работу, хотя не было советских патефонов ПТ-3 и оклеенных шпоном и 😊 фетром внутри, не показаны работы по ремонту и настройке двигателя, подшипника тонарма , пружины имембраны , а это крититические места в этом патефоне... Это скорее реконструкция чемодана , а не реставрация самого патефона, хотя выглядит красиво 18:2118:21
I'm guessing he wanted to add his own style to it. At least he did it in a way which won't stop someone else from making it look original again, and it was in terrible condition before. Now at least it works again and won't be thrown in a skip. Plus it's not as if 102s are rare
this is a Soviet copy, but I tried to restore it as best as possible, the head membrane, I also restored. The gramophone factory of the city of "Molotov"
Красиво и добросовестно сделал, но это не реставрация, таких моделей я не видел. Задача реставратора в том и состоит чтобы восстановить первоначальный вид изделия вне зависимости от того, нравится он или нет. Честно говоря, меня подмывало сделать нечто подобное, но удержался от искушения. Более того, ищу варианты восстановления на каждом изделии заводских клейм, штампов, оттисков и эмблем
Why did you put green felt on the inside of the machine? Why not just use the felt on the turntable and line the inside of the cabinet with veneer? That looks awful in green felt!
@@DIDALL I also like billiard cloth. Such a gramophone could be so modified to order as a gift to the director of the plant, for example. So this design is authentic. In a completely Soviet style.
Ich habe ein baugleiches Grammophon und es ist leider von Schimmel befallen gewesen und das Kunstleder ist ranzig. Es funktioniert einwandfrei und ist vollständig. Die Optik meines Gerätes ist allerdings nicht mehr schön. Ich habe schon überlegt es zu restaurieren aber irgendwie nimmt man ihm damit auch ein bisschen Geschichte. Leider kann ich nicht mit Furnier umgehen.
@@MangoOnQuest well, yeah, but millions were made, the one shown wasn't priceless or anything. He could've done anything to it. It's not some new old stock.
Bhai aap ki shop kanhan par he hama re paas ek record pilayer he uski servis honi he chalte hu e atakta he Jo gramo phone aap ne theek Kiya he kya aesa hame mil sakta he aur kitne ka bhai aapka nambar to baat kar ne me zyada achcha hota aap kament kar dena
I’ve worked with windup phonographs for 65 years You did not show one second of cleaning dried grease out of the mechanism, or oiling bearings. You video is good for making a perfectly functioning 60+ year look more modern. That is not very helpful to most viewers. We would likely work on fixing the mechanical and acoustic function, and the cabinet work would be secondary. That said, the veneer looks great! I’d like it if the deck was a different material from the turntable.
1 of the not best restoration work I seen, rusty parts were not even cleaned, surface was not cleaned and most process was hidden...so a big thumb down for wasting our 18 minutes.
While I don't love the felt, the wood looks quite nice, and mechanically you did a great job!
This is lovely! It really shows that you don't need to make it look like it did originally for it to look good, I have a 1945 HMV 102 that is very similar, though it's coverings are in perfect condition and I would never dream of re-covering it.
Beautifully done, but a word of warning to anyone considering doing the same. Felt is a terrible choice to line the inside with, as it is an open fiber and will trap dirt and stains, even from touching it. Over time, it will be the thing in this instrument that deteriorates and shows decline. It's really hard to clean felt.
That's typical for old pieces...if I'm trying to stay true to the Era, what would you suggest? Trying to learn
I would have to disagree with those who said the outside was ruined. I think it’s beautiful… great restoration
I just think it looks wrong to have veneering. It's a portable. Have you ever seen a veneered suitcase? 😀
Just came across your TH-cam channel and subscribed 👍!! I enjoy the restoration of these very much. Gramophones produce some of the most beautiful music 🎶. Too bad 👎 they were put to shame 🫠 by the more modernized record player. Your friend, Jeff!!
How lovely! I especially love how you made it your own with the colors and design, beautiful machine :)
Работа проделана колоссальная! Из такого убитого патефона сделали конфетку, и настроен хорошо. 👍
I have not seen one restored and so this was so enjoyable. Thank you for sharing and great job!
It's a pity that it was not restored as original
Super job and an excellent video of the process of restoring this beautiful machine!
thanks!
renowacja na najwyzszym poziomie , brawo gramofon otrzymal nowe zycie artystyczna robota , Pozdrawiam .
What an amazing job… those who said you ruined the outside… nonsense it looks amazing… I might do this with my old 102
Потрясающе, великолепная работа!
Beautiful work !
Really wonderfull piece of history... Result great and test superb !. This video deserves more views !
thanks !
Fantastic result. I would like to have seen a little less of the old vinyl removal from the case, and any work you may have done to service the clockwork mechanism.
Fantastic restoration, you should be very proud 😊
thanks, this is very nice
thank u for this video!! I have one the same (interestingly with similar damage also) am in the process of restoring so really useful as I lost the photos I took where to put everything back together again 🙃
good luck with the restoration
I have an old record player belong to my nan that I always wanted to restore but never knew how, decided to Google it today and the first video that popped up was yours and its the EXACT same one, thank you for this
thank you, glad you are inspired!
can we talk about how effortlessly he applied that wood veneer?? wow
The rexine was probably put on with Hide glue. Softening it with a heat gun (Gently) would have made removal easier. But! Terrific Job.
Great job, lot of work involved, glad you did it whichever way you wanted, I an recovering a 101 at the minuts as the cover is gone, and you have just inspired me to do it the way I want it- Thanks
Thanks! good luck, post a video, I will definitely watch
Will do cheers👍
nice restoration! only using felt (green) for platter base is bad idea because it can effect the flawless movement of mechanism and these part need to lubricant time by time. A solid polished wood or plywood would have been a better option. Overall looking good.
Very beautiful result!
thanks!
Perfect Restoration. Very good job
Thanks!
Beautiful! 👍Make pockets, you can play billiards. 😊
You did an excellent job, but I would have liked to see more of the actual work.
Bel restauro ! Lavori molto bene ! Bravo !
Grazie
Bonito trabalho de restauração! Parabéns!
Thanks!!
you recovered very well. it's back like new
Lovely EMI 102 I have a 1939 model … have cleaned it up a bit but not some much other than mechanically clean it all,down and lubricate the motor and working parts.
I wonder why it’s all black, when originally it was blue, has it been in a dirty environment or a fire perhaps, smoke damage?
yes, he was burned
Awesome, thanks! Planning to restore my 1938 HMV 102. This will help.
Great Job! Good sound ❤️love
Thank you😀
красавец. руки золотые. терпения мне бы не хватило обдирать
СПАСИБО!
nice job but you ruined the outside
Yea
Great Job !
Mere paas bhi iss tarha ke do record players hain ,old is gold.
nice!
My father cleared out my grandma house while I was at work I said save the gramophone I’ll restore it
He put it in the local skip
Before he got back to his car a man fished it out
At least it found a new life I could not give it!!!
Amazing video to watch I wonder what made the original covering turn from the blue to black? Was it soot?
thanks, yes he was either burnt in the sun, or from fire
Хорошая работа, я тоже восстановил патифон, но оставил в том состоянии как есть, только сделал рабочим, ЛАЙК, Вы откуда будете, я просто Ваше объявление на олх нашёл
Спасибо, Украина , Винница
@@DIDALL так мы, это, что земляки, не часто так встретишь, умельца да с родных краёв, я тоже ВИННИЦА
@@DIDALL но восстановление патифона действительно супер, у меня ещё на счету самовар Баташева, тоже восстановил
@@vasilichaprigodi Круто! Пиши в личку , пообщаемся denpon10@gmail.com
или номеру туда отправь)
@@DIDALL ок
De que año son estos entrañables aparatos ? Gracias
@DIDALL love the veneer! Great job! Was this poor thing in a fire? That was a serious amount of damage! What wheel and compound did you use on the hardware please?
I forgot to ask, where do you source your parts please? I'm in Nova Scotia and I received floor model phonograph free!
Is that a HMV 102 per chance? I have one from the late 40s lovley rich sound aswell from a 5B soundbox
no? this is ussr
@@DIDALL looks idendical , have a look on google defdonatlly a clone of a 102 ,Lovley job on your work its very impressive ! I would love to do the same on mine
Amazing!
Can you show how you did the corners of the wood veneer. I've got a really tatty 101 in my collection and I would like to have a go but I'm concerned how the corners were formed
there is nothing complicated here, first make a mark with a pencil where the seams of the lining should be, so that later it would be easier to cut, you need to use contact glue (analogue of a shoe), smooth the corners with a board, the glue seized immediately, used glue with the name (nairit GTA BOTERM), and then cut off only the rest of the veneer. I recommend applying the glue exactly to the extent that the piece of veneer should be, that is, no more than the area marked for a particular piece.
Awesome.
Хорошая работа, не показали как углы шпоном заделывали.
@DIDALL, where do you get the spare parts? like the tone hand..
Sei stato un po creativo, bel lavoro comunque.
Thanks
Although I can appreciate the technical skills and the ability to take a record player like this apart and then renew it, the only thing I did not really like was the veneer, it somehow makes it look too new. Some of these old record players in my country had real Oregon Pine as a base, and they look really beautiful when the material is removed and the real wood underneath restored. But you have to work with what you have, I understand that
@KING VICTROLA I know. But I would still prefer a natural case such as wood, above a manmade material. Even if the object gets a few dents and scractchmarks with time, it looks nicer and reflects the history of the piece. I have a yellowwood table which I inherited from my parents, and will not dream of putting sandpaper to it, you can see that it has been used and served a purpose, every mark on it was caused by a family member either baking or cutting bread
@@goforgold7082 Many portable gramophones aren't entirely made from timber, the top and bottom are made from a type of fibreboard so the veneer was necessary. Some of the earlier portables had timber cases which do look good. I think the timber cases ended up being considered old fashioned and it became more fashionable to have portables look like leather cases, as well as it being cheaper and a bit lighter to use thin fibreboard. Interestingly, the HMV 102 (which this gramophone is a copy of) and the 101 had for the standard version a beautiful varnished timber motorboard, whereas for the coloured de luxe versions the motorboard was covered in the same Rexine as the rest of the case.
belo trabalho
Hi, that was a good restoration. Do you think the vinyl was stuck on with pearl glue or fish emulsion?
thanks, but I did not understand your question
I have a 1948 Philco Model 49 1405 record player and i dont know anything about them. Any idea were i could get it rebuilt?
I think you will succeed!
Мне понравилась работа.
Good job!
Thanks!
I love getting these old devices restauration, but i would not go so far, as changing colors.
Автор провел большую работу, хотя не было советских патефонов ПТ-3 и оклеенных шпоном и 😊 фетром внутри, не показаны работы по ремонту и настройке двигателя, подшипника тонарма , пружины имембраны , а это крититические места в этом патефоне... Это скорее реконструкция чемодана , а не реставрация самого патефона, хотя выглядит красиво 18:21 18:21
Why didn't you restore it to look as it did originally?
I'm guessing he wanted to add his own style to it. At least he did it in a way which won't stop someone else from making it look original again, and it was in terrible condition before. Now at least it works again and won't be thrown in a skip. Plus it's not as if 102s are rare
can you please help me. that vinyl on the box of the gramophone whats is it called. its not vinyl its called something else then that.
VIGOR 106 or infolk 106 (vinyl paper)
Looks like a His Masters Voice 102 to me
this is a Soviet copy, but I tried to restore it as best as possible, the head membrane, I also restored.
The gramophone factory of the city of "Molotov"
@@DIDALL well done fella!
Привет друг. А можешь сказать, Откуда ты купил недостающий детали?
по доскам обьявлений искал
@@DIDALL а как называется детал можете сказать?
Wow that veneer makes it look like cheap 80's furniture.
Красиво и добросовестно сделал, но это не реставрация, таких моделей я не видел. Задача реставратора в том и состоит чтобы восстановить первоначальный вид изделия вне зависимости от того, нравится он или нет. Честно говоря, меня подмывало сделать нечто подобное, но удержался от искушения. Более того, ищу варианты восстановления на каждом изделии заводских клейм, штампов, оттисков и эмблем
11:10 wow 😳 speedy
:)
strictly speaking not a restoration, because you changed the outside completely. But something had to be done and it looks pretty good!
Kya aapke pass old record machine 102 number ka model hai kya
Why did you put green felt on the inside of the machine? Why not just use the felt on the turntable and line the inside of the cabinet with veneer? That looks awful in green felt!
I like that better
@@DIDALL I also like billiard cloth. Such a gramophone could be so modified to order as a gift to the director of the plant, for example. So this design is authentic. In a completely Soviet style.
Hey!
I have a same gramophone that is belong to my paternal grandfather. Will you help me for its restoration?
Of course, write to me by mail, I will help in any way I can. denpon10@gmail.com
Donde consiguio el reproductor ortofonico
todavía tenemos muchos de ellos
Really green Felt? You know they make reproduction coverings.
Ich habe ein baugleiches Grammophon und es ist leider von Schimmel befallen gewesen und das Kunstleder ist ranzig. Es funktioniert einwandfrei und ist vollständig. Die Optik meines Gerätes ist allerdings nicht mehr schön. Ich habe schon überlegt es zu restaurieren aber irgendwie nimmt man ihm damit auch ein bisschen Geschichte. Leider kann ich nicht mit Furnier umgehen.
Es ist ganz einfach zu verarbeiten, man kann es sogar mit Schuhkleber verkleben
I have two gramophones please restore them
6:10 that is literally 100 year old from when it was bought...
The hmv 102 began production in 1931. Millions were made
@@StupidBorbGuy okay but its still close 🤣
@@MangoOnQuest well, yeah, but millions were made, the one shown wasn't priceless or anything. He could've done anything to it. It's not some new old stock.
Super. I just got the exact same piece from my father in law. I've got to restore it. Where are you based out of?
I am glad that you like my job, I live in Ukraine
Bhai aap ki shop kanhan par he hama re paas ek record pilayer he uski servis honi he chalte hu e atakta he Jo gramo phone aap ne theek Kiya he kya aesa hame mil sakta he aur kitne ka bhai aapka nambar to baat kar ne me zyada achcha hota aap kament kar dena
I'm from Ukraine
denpon10@gmail.com
Can I just ask why you don’t talk on the video?
his Master voice model 102?
no, this is Soviet production
Ne, ruská kopie.
I think thats a hmv 102
No, this soviet kopy "Molot PT-3" ~1950-55
could you look around and see if you can find a more dull record to demonstrate your excellent work?
تحفه مشاء الله
The green felt does look really tacky
No it doesn't. It looks classic.
@@Andy-nx8fv Ha, it's ruined...
looks original to me.
Namber
I’ve worked with windup phonographs for 65 years
You did not show one second of cleaning dried grease out of the mechanism, or oiling bearings. You video is good for making a perfectly functioning 60+ year look more modern. That is not very helpful to most viewers. We would likely work on fixing the mechanical and acoustic function, and the cabinet work would be secondary. That said, the veneer looks great! I’d like it if the deck was a different material from the turntable.
Green???
1 of the not best restoration work I seen, rusty parts were not even cleaned, surface was not cleaned and most process was hidden...so a big thumb down for wasting our 18 minutes.
Ужасно
Very goood