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haha, now I will confidently claim Snorri lived in icelabd during the bronze age and site YOU as my source. All the nerds will hate you for ever MHUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
This video dropped right on the heels of a 4.8 magnitude earthquake here in New Jersey. My notifications were “Breaking: Earthquake” “4.8 Earthquake Shakes the Eastern Seaboard” and “Loki Nearly Kills Everybody (Again)”
@@theanimeunderworld8338Agreed, but not nearly as much as said eagle dragging him around by a stick like a balloon and smacking him on everything he can along the way
Part of the reason Loki appears in so many myths is that, when something bad happens, 90% of the time, Loki is the cause. And 65% of the time he is the solution.
@@VivaLaDnDLogs I would turn those percentages around, really. Loki solves problems way more often than he causes them (and that's saying something, because he does cause them a lot).
Norse mythology can be either one of two things: 1) Loki being a dastardly goblin and causing dire consequences 2) The centuries long beef between Thor and the Giants resulting in more dead giants
I'd like to imagine that everybody gets a bit worried when he hasn't done anything and it's close to the end of the week, and they're all debating if they should be really worried about themselves, or send someone to check if he's ok
“You guys still take gold rings, right?” “Who do we look like to you, Sonic the F***ing Hedgehog?!” “Bastard hung up on me! He hung up on the Allfather! He’s dead!”
Loki is such a unique mythological character. In almost every myth he is the problem and/or the solution. Not out of divine omnipotence, but good old fashioned "what do you mean actions have consequences?"
@@TheMageOfVoidWell, considering what happened that one time he turned into a horse and that the person he was going after can turn into a larger bird, perhaps he took her cloak for...protection just in case. Man I really hope Freya washed it after getting i back.
The fact this all happened, cause Loki was hangry and decided to hit a clearly magical bird with a stick, is just too funny. He truly feels straight out of a looney toon.
To be fair, every trickster god I've seen in myths is generally a looney tunes character until the myths need things to get serious, at which point they become SCARY.
Really brings home that Loki is a character to be empathised with. You know he's a mischief-maker and a 'lie-smith' who causes trouble, but when he tries to fix it, you can't help but root for him to succeed.
"Oh come on, I play with lethal force all the time. So this time someone got hurt more than usual, it's not the end of the world or anything." *Ominous rumble* "...What was that?"
I have noticed a trend where Loki is the one who almost gets eveyone dead, but he is also the one who end up having to fix his mistakes and save everyone in the end.
How do you kill a God? Limitations Deity Consumption/Imprisonment/Divine Slayer/Banishment Divine Power Negation/Absorption/Immunity Divinity Nullification/Mortalization
And there would be at least one episode where - for once - Loki is actually innocent of whatever he's being accused of. And he's still expected to fix it.
@@mirjanbouma _it was loki!_ *Loki?!* _well, not that loki, the other loki_ *the other loki...* _yes you se-_ *my friends, I am afraid lokis tricks were too much for my son thor, he is already seeing loki in doubles*
@LordRael013 I thought so too, but like you said, it didn't line up. So I went back through my notes and was like, "Ah it's not that, it's this and that's even more funny."
"How Loki screwed up everything" is usually. How "Loki is kidnapped and force by Oath to do something only to fix it himself afterward." or "... makes it so that it doesn't matter and they win anyway."
It's even funnier when you realize the only reason anybody puts up with him is bc he's Odin's buddy. So he's just the crazy sitcom uncle everyone knows isn't related to them
That's why between the two I actually prefer the Lokasenna to the story of Baldur as the reason for Loki's falling out with the other Aesir, if we're making a comparison. The death of Baldur is cool and dramatic and all, but the Lokasenna is just so much more relatable. Ultimately just that one friend or relative who showed up at the party in one of his Moods, and everyone knows he's just going to spoil everything when he's Like This, but trying to get him to ease up just gets him to come in harder, and because you're family he knows just how to get everyone wound up and what raw nerves to work until one time is finally the last time, you love him and he's come through for you before, but you hate him and he's fucked you over and he's out of second chances, you're fucking done, there's just no choice except to bind him to a rock with the entrails of his son. ...okay I've never had that last part happen but, y'know, I get it.
@@Blaze-xe8cl Odin is halfway to blame. Jormungandr and Fenrir wouldn't have even joined if not for their imprisonment. Hel was happy with hers. She was just supporting her dad with an undead army. Baldr's death was also part retaliation, part annoyance at his bragging.
@@adamhenry7043Honestly. I'll say it. Odin was only partially in the wrong. He probably knew the fate of the Gods was inevitable and set up the building blocks for their world being replaced by a newer, brighter future.
I loved Terry Pratchett's take on how to kill a god and its consequences in Hogfather. All the spare belief floating in the air creating gods, fairies and odd critters was hilarious.
@@GeonamicWarrior Watched the first season of the anime when it came out, had a good time. Think it got a second season, to which I have not gotten around to yet, although considering how the first one ended I am not too sure the story will have meaningful continuation.
@@tuukkai1841 Without saying spoilers, the second season answers a couple loose threads from the first season, but I personally didn't like it as much. Character importance seemed unbalanced compared to the first season, and I felt more confused while watching, too. Reading the LN before would probably help ease the confusion.
"...to justify why the current pharaoh's favorite furry deserves a turn on the sun boat" You know, considering how many of the Egyptian gods are anthropomorphic animals I'm surprised this joke isn't made more often online.
Interestingly enough, the Egyptian gods were not always actually seen as people with animal heads, merely that those statues and drawings were representative of the domains the Egyptians believed the gods controlled.
Odin ordering pizza in the background as Loki gets dragged through the sky by the Jotun eagle just tickles me. Loki's non-traditional thinking often gets the Norse Gods in trouble, so I was wondering what time you meant before hearing about those "legendary golden apples".
Loki's expressions when Idunn is being kidnapped (3:55 and 3:59) are heartbreaking! Really conveys how he does not want to do this and hates that he is doing it because it's just a horrible thing to be doing. Kudos to you Red!
Red: “How do you kill a god?” Kratos: “Oh plenty of ways. For example, you just grasp one by the neck here, and slowly lift until-“ Helios: *“AHHHHHHHHH”*
How do you kill a God? Limitations Deity Consumption/Imprisonment/Divine Slayer/Banishment Divine Power Negation/Absorption/Immunity Divinity Nullification/Mortalization
I like how in the DLC for ragnorok when Kratos gets to the room of sacrifice, if he chooses to sacrifice himself Helios is just like "Wait, what the hell are you doing?!" because it is so out of character for the man Kratos used to be when he was younger.
So fun fact, in some version of this tale; the gods are also aiming their flaming arrows at Loki. Only to be disappointed that they didn’t kill him. Also some version changes the animal that Loki and Idunn transforms to. In the one I read as a kid, Loki was a Robin and Idunn was a squirrel.
In the first version of this myth in a (Modern) retelling , Loki actually feels really guilty about tricking Idunn because despite his issues he has ith Odin & company, he doesn’t have them with Idunn
I think the reason so many people think of gods as obviously immortal is because of the influence of Abrahamic religions where God-with-a-capital-G is timeless and eternal, and thus naturally immortal, which causes folks to assume gods-with-a-lowercase-g have the same attributes, even though in many mythologies, the immortality of the gods is conditional in some way (often with fruit that grants eternal life.)
Theirs also the fact many of them ostensibly live forever as the tales of different religions speak of them as if they’re still alive. Norse Mythology seems to have been one of the few to actually address it and say “they’re so long lived because of magic apples and without them time would quickly catch up to them” even when they die it’s basically Comic Book brand of death because they rarely stay dead and either reappear as they did before the incident or just transform into something else post death. Even Baldur who’s whole thing is dying comes back after Ragnarok
From my limited understanding, one of the older versions of the Eden story has the garden contain both a tree of knowledge and tree of immortality. The reason Adam and Eve got kicked out being to prevent them from eating from the immortality tree after the knowledge one.(thus making them gods)
@@cooper10182 pretty sure that’s the gnostic version. Which is generally considered heretical to actual Christianity. Even Mormons is more accepted than Gnostics. Humanity was made in the image of God and while popular media portrays that him looking human that’s not the actual case. The book gives a very brief description of his appearance and it’s nothing like us. What they means is we’re made in the image of his spirit, because of this the Human Spirit aka Soul is immortal. We don’t need a Tree of Life because we’re spiritually immortal. We can’t be killed in a way that would matter.
0:36 Reminds me of a tumblr post about dead gods in the sense of "I killed it and it's still a god" that goes "it is still worshipped, prayers are still answered, even as it lies pierced with a thousand swords and burning with chemical fire"
There is a tremendous power in worship. In fact, many deities across fiction start off as mortals and are worshipped into deification upon their death. Just looking at Christianity you can kinda see that, with the very moment he was executed being the single most important moment in the religion across all it's sects. The moment he ascended (back in jesus case I guess) was the moment he gave his life.
I really grow tired of MCU Loki fans who insult Joanna Harris' and Neil Gaiman's interpretations of the Norse Mythology because it doesn't fit with the version they're familiar with. Like, just admit that you're all into pretty faces and aren't interested in knowledge at all.
@@Járnúlfur-Bronsörn5096Yes, and as we all know, dealing with pathological lying and pathological liars is something humans totally can't relate to at all. /s
Loki is the token Chaotic Neutral party member in D&D who always gets the party in trouble with their antics. He's the Rogue who tries and fails to steal the king's gold or the Bard who tries and fails to seduce the dragon.
This is actually the introduction of my absolute FAVE Nordic Goddess: Skadi! She is such a badass, rocking up to Asgard to wreck shop and they did NOT want to tangle with her. Good video!
@@summerstarr3446 Girl's got her priorities straight, she knew full well her dad was at fault for messing with the asier and NOT expecting them to figure it out.... he hired LOKI... EVERYONE KNOWS LOKI DOES THIS STUFF.
After eating all the heavenly peaches of immortality he went for a second course of golden apples of immortality. Why does that make so much sense? I wouldn't be surprised if these stories somehow share an ancient root and were once the same.
@craytherlaygaming2852 They would become great friends. Loki: "Hey Sun want to pull the mother of all pranks on my family?" Sun Wukong: "DO I?!?!!? Can we go to the Jade Court and mess with them next?" Loki: "Of course! what kind of friend would I be if I said no?"
Love the way this is framed in Neil Gaiman’s version: Loki as Idunn is carried away: Huh. That’s bad. Well, with any luck they won’t notice she’s gone and they will never suspect it was my fault. *Smash cut to all the gods being old* Odin: We know it was you, Loki.
"The only way that the Norse Gods know how... Gratuitous, Heavy Metal Album Cover levels of Violence.." Bless the Aesir and Vanir.. Bless Red, Blue, Cyan, Indigo, and especially Cleo. Bless all of OSP.
please do the second part about skadi is one of my favourite myths had consequences for this one...skadi try to merry balder but merry Njord instead they hate each other reign... skadi hate the sea and seagulls...while Njord hate the mountains and wolf's...and Loki had to make skadi laugh and he end up fighting a goat... is insane
0:03 I remember a story of while alex hirsh was writing the finle for gravity falls he and the writing staff had a big whitebord that everyone in the disey building could see with *HOW TO KILL GOD* in giant letters
I was wondering when you’d cover this story. I honestly really like this one because I could argue that the kidnapping wasn’t fully Loki’s fault, since Thiazi basically forced him into kidnapping Idunn in order for him to let Loki go.
Ehhhhhh ... once Loki had been let go, he could've just ignored the deal, stayed in Asgard and never had to worry about Thiazi again. He chose his freedom of movement over the safety of the Asgardians, and that's on him.
Last time was Blue serenading us with the history of Snorri "I shall make problems for myself and all Iceland this morning" Sturleson, and now shortly afterwards we have Red giving us more Norse story times. What a nice back-to-back.
0:03 Simple: Go the Egyptian way They believed that a person dies three times during their life - Once when they lose their childhood self - Once when their mortal bodies give away - Once when their names are spoken of for the last time Since we treat gods as already adult and they aren't mortals, thus not having a time when their bodies will expire, the only way to kill a good would be to stop mentioning it and causing it to be forgotten
I still like to stick to concept of "gods live while someone still remember/worship them" and dang: every and each of gods and pantheos are *owe* so much to you, Red. (especialy Dionysos and Loki, my favs) Keep the flames burning!
I cant believe you didn't mention the best part of the myth! Ok so after all of that Skadi/Skade who is the daughter of Tjazi says that as consolation she should get to choose a god to marry. The aesir agree on the condition that she can only choose based on looking at their feet. Skadi picks the prettiest pair of feet, thinking the are balder's but they actually belong to Njord, the god of the ocean who has such clean feet from standing in water all day. Skadi and Njord eventually divorce which I also think is pretty funny.
I have to say, I like the "Looney-Tunes-Antagonist/Loveable Kids-Cartoon Villain" version of Loki way more than the "cunning badass tricks everyone" version of popculture.
I really love Idun’s design in SMTV. Not to mention she is a really op early game demon with her unique “Golden Apple” skill which heals and buffs the entire party. (Superior to Luster Candy in my opinion) Even the quest you have to do to access her is similar to the myth with the exception that Loki was the kidnappper essentially wanting to sell her apples to make money. So it’s still a very Loki thing to do.
“Here’s a fun existential question to ponder at 11am on a Friday:” Me, watching this video at 11am on a Friday 2 hours after it was published: HOW DID SHE KNOW?!
Fates: Well, that’s one possibility but we have many options to choose from. There’s the mistletoe option (note that this option can lead to a mass clean-up of the gods though.) You can also kill a god by having them give birth to fire. If you’re the god of the underworld that makes things easier as you simply have to lure them into your domain and not let them out. You can also trick them by killing your twin brother and resurrecting him, and then when the gods ask that you do the same to them, you don’t resurrect them. There’s also the furniture option. Make a special box for them, seal it, and toss it into the river. Like we said, there are many options to choose from.
YES FINALLY more loki! I was lowkey waiting on this one! I mean, loki's lowkey always gonna make from some lowkey fun stories, and OSP just makes it better. As always. Hell yeah. Loki. Edit: Huh wasn't expecting the beatles today
Great video as always but special shoutout to the "teatime of the gods" bit, love me an unexpected Discworld reference, esp since it's so perfect in this context!
shoutout to Tjaste for soul reading Loki so hard that he knew Loki would start whapping him with a stick after getting his dinner stolen and so he prepared his magical glue spell in advance
" world build a paradigm where gods are utterly unkillable so long as they are believed in" *shows a picture of Tiamat, from Dungeons and Dragons, where several gods have killed each other just cause*
Loki almost killing everyone? Yeah, that's on brand for him. Seriously though, I've always thought Odin should have seen what Loki would do when Odin decided it was a good idea to kill Loki's wife and either imprison or try to kill Loki's children. The sheer rage at being forced to join the Aesir because Odin didn't take "no, I'm good where I am thanks" for an answer and giving Loki no choice must have been overwhelming
I like the part right after; where the giant’s duaghter shows up Armed to the teeth with a bunch of scary weapons to take revenge but ends up settling for a husband picked out by their feet.
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The Freya pin has a kitty!
Have you guys done Sinbad the sailor?
when will we get the Psyche and Eros packs?
Love these pins...so cute
NO GODDAMMIT IT'S 1200 CE NOT BCE NOOOOOO
loki you rascal how dare you get into my scripts like this -R
Snorri Sturluson, a contemporary of the Bronze Age Collapse.
haha, now I will confidently claim Snorri lived in icelabd during the bronze age and site YOU as my source. All the nerds will hate you for ever MHUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Snorri Sturluson, first man in Iceland
@@Punapartaconsidering the recent video by Blue about Snorri Sturleson would probably put him as the cause of the Bronze Age Collapse.
Time travel!
This video dropped right on the heels of a 4.8 magnitude earthquake here in New Jersey. My notifications were “Breaking: Earthquake” “4.8 Earthquake Shakes the Eastern Seaboard” and “Loki Nearly Kills Everybody (Again)”
huh, very appropriate, given loki's ultimate fate.
Loki: Goddamn it Sigggyyyynnn---
Same here!
Loki: Hey Heimdall, pull my finger!
The Earthshaker does it again!
“Loki Almost Kills Everyone (Again)”
Everyone: You’ll have to be much more specific
Seeing the elder norse gods curbstomp the eagle was funny
Not that time. No, not that time either....
Loki: Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?!?
@@theanimeunderworld8338Agreed, but not nearly as much as said eagle dragging him around by a stick like a balloon and smacking him on everything he can along the way
Alphabetically or chronically?
I love how everyone just presumes if something went wrong, it was Loki.
It’s only scapegoating if it doesn’t keep actually being your fault, Loki.
Honestly the story this channel made of Thor’s hammer being taken puts it best:
“Looookkkiiii!”
“I have done nothing to warrant that…this morning.”
@@shadowwriter329 Gruncle Stan/Loki: *This* *time* I’m actually innocent!”
Part of the reason Loki appears in so many myths is that, when something bad happens, 90% of the time, Loki is the cause. And 65% of the time he is the solution.
The fault lies with you, Loki!
@@VivaLaDnDLogs I would turn those percentages around, really. Loki solves problems way more often than he causes them (and that's saying something, because he does cause them a lot).
"...suffers the curse of al three of Newton's laws..." is my new favorite phrasing out of this channel. I'm gonna adopt that.
That one was _so_ good
I wholeheartedly agree and may have replayed that part multiple times and laughed/snorted each time.
It's always the norse videos. This one's close, but my favorite is still 'unorthadox display of hubris, but very well.'
yeah this has earned a spot in my lexicon
@@jordanfitzmaurice6658 Lokibrained is my favorite from the history vids regarding snorri
if anyone was legit loki incarnate... it was probably Snorri
Norse mythology can be either one of two things:
1) Loki being a dastardly goblin and causing dire consequences
2) The centuries long beef between Thor and the Giants resulting in more dead giants
3) Odin doing the wildest things to gain new wisdom/knowledge.
4) Prophecies coming true because someone tried to avoid it.
"If we keep beefing with the Aesir, it will eventually result in a dead Thor!"
"The world's gonna end before _that_ happens!"
@@timothymclean Actually the world will end right after that happens.
Like that is literally the second to last thing before the end of the world.
@@gavros9636 Yeah, but that's not an accomplishment of the giants.
Let's not pretend Loki nearly killing everybody is not a weekly occurance
I think it’s a daily occurrance.
The consequences of being smart and cunning, but lacking in wisdom and impulse control.
"Oh, this is like that time Loki nearly got everyone killed."
"...Do you have ANY idea how little that narrows it down?"
@@JulianLopez-rt6kpSo Loki has ADHD?
I'd like to imagine that everybody gets a bit worried when he hasn't done anything and it's close to the end of the week, and they're all debating if they should be really worried about themselves, or send someone to check if he's ok
I bet there is a whiteboard in Aesir HQ that just says: "Days since Loki fucked everything up" and it's always at 0!
It's just a rock with the number carved in. 😂
I mean, it would just be too much of a hassle to update it.
One day is "0.5" because Loki tried his best but still put salt instead of sugar in Odin's coffee.
False. They once went almost a year without his shenanigans after he dealt with the.... Ahem: "horse thing"
@@ericward8459 yeahhhh but we dont talk about *the horse incident*
“You guys still take gold rings, right?”
“Who do we look like to you, Sonic the F***ing Hedgehog?!”
“Bastard hung up on me! He hung up on the Allfather! He’s dead!”
Sonic in Norse mythology would be a kickass storybook game.
Wait a second... He was going to pay with Draupnir! Dude's using his infinite money glitch to pay for pizza!
@@LuckySketches they better toss in garlic bread for that.
@@johnnygyro2295well there was a cancelled 3rd storybook game based on Greek mythology
@Tfbrave
So I've heard. That could've also been cool.
Loki is such a unique mythological character. In almost every myth he is the problem and/or the solution. Not out of divine omnipotence, but good old fashioned "what do you mean actions have consequences?"
Like Red said... he's a looneytoons character
Freya’s feather cloak is once again the MVP
Yeah, it's weird that he needs it though. Can shapeshift into a fish, a horse and a seal (maybe) but not a bird?
@@TheMageOfVoidWell, considering what happened that one time he turned into a horse and that the person he was going after can turn into a larger bird, perhaps he took her cloak for...protection just in case.
Man I really hope Freya washed it after getting i back.
Fucking accurate honestly
Fuckin accurate honestly
@@TheMageOfVoidIn some versions of the myths he does need a cloak/hamn for all of those transformations. Which, fun fact, also includes a louse!
The fact this all happened, cause Loki was hangry and decided to hit a clearly magical bird with a stick, is just too funny.
He truly feels straight out of a looney toon.
It might be just be a urban legend, but Bugs Bunny IS based on the trickster god archetype, which Loki spearheads
He even got the genderqueer down
To be fair, every trickster god I've seen in myths is generally a looney tunes character until the myths need things to get serious, at which point they become SCARY.
Who of us hasn't done something regrettable when we're hangry? Being hangry is no fun.
When Red talked about the Eagle hitting him against every tree, I easily imagined him going "You're dethspicable."
@@margheritaparacini7729 I heard Bugs is based specifically on the trickster hare from parts of Africa. Or at least shows remarkable overlap.
Honestly the drawing at 4:55 of falcon Loki flying for his life with tears in his eyes is just really adorable.
RIGHT? I watched that bit (and the suffering all three of Newton's Laws) at least a dozen times.
Really brings home that Loki is a character to be empathised with. You know he's a mischief-maker and a 'lie-smith' who causes trouble, but when he tries to fix it, you can't help but root for him to succeed.
Mythology in a nutshell:
greek: unfortunally zeus was horny...
nordic: unfortunally Loki was bored...
celtic: unfortunally a fae was offended,...
underated comment
Indian myth : unfortunately someone got a blessing from Vishnu/Shiva/Bramha
I feel like it's more just "Unfortunately Loki.", He doesn't even need to be bored he just messes things up automatically.
Egyptian: unfortunately set was planning
Chinese Mythology: Unfortunately Sung Wu Kong ooh shinyed
Loki almost kills everyone all the time, until he actually kills someone.... And then things get end-of-the-worldy.
"Oh come on, I play with lethal force all the time. So this time someone got hurt more than usual, it's not the end of the world or anything."
*Ominous rumble*
"...What was that?"
@@DragonKnightJin
"Hey Loki... remember tbat Baldur had a whole prophecy about him dying just before ragnarock?"
".... No?"
"Wait, I actually did it this time? Shit, guess I have to finish the job then..."
I have noticed a trend where Loki is the one who almost gets eveyone dead, but he is also the one who end up having to fix his mistakes and save everyone in the end.
"How can you kill a god?"
"What a grand and intoxicating innocence."
Had to scroll down way too far for this!
How do you kill a God?
Limitations
Deity Consumption/Imprisonment/Divine Slayer/Banishment
Divine Power Negation/Absorption/Immunity
Divinity Nullification/Mortalization
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If you squint really hard im sure you can find connections between the betrayal of nerevar and the death of baldr
This a reference?
3:08: The Eagle says “Can I have a bite?” and Odin replied “Only a spoonful!” and so the Eagle pulls out a comically large spoon
The more I learn about Loki and the Norse Gods, the more I can imagine an Animated Series being made about the absolute madness that they are...
And there would be at least one episode where - for once - Loki is actually innocent of whatever he's being accused of. And he's still expected to fix it.
@@cybertramon0012 yes! And one where Loki tells some children the Snori version of where the Asgardians come from 😂
@@cybertramon0012 That's the one where Thor's hammer got stolen.
@@mirjanbouma _it was loki!_
*Loki?!*
_well, not that loki, the other loki_
*the other loki...*
_yes you se-_
*my friends, I am afraid lokis tricks were too much for my son thor, he is already seeing loki in doubles*
They should make it into a comic book series, I think that would be more successful.
4:50
"Live
Laugh
Love"
Well played Red, well played. 👏
My first thought was "Home Sweet Home" but that didn't line up, so thank you for figuring it out.
@LordRael013 I thought so too, but like you said, it didn't line up. So I went back through my notes and was like, "Ah it's not that, it's this and that's even more funny."
I FUCKIN KNEW IT
I had the same thought
Lmao I commented that was what I hoped it was before seeing this. Excellent
"How Loki screwed up everything" is usually. How "Loki is kidnapped and force by Oath to do something only to fix it himself afterward." or "... makes it so that it doesn't matter and they win anyway."
Seriously, he gets a bad rap but he's the only reason the gods are even around long enough for Ragnarok.
Loki keeps his promises, even when they are tortured out of him and very dangerous for him to keep.
Loki is like that guy in a sitcom who ruins everybody's day XD
I hate this. I will never unsee Loki Kramer.
He pretty much is, yeah
But he's the fan favourite.
Newman...
It's even funnier when you realize the only reason anybody puts up with him is bc he's Odin's buddy. So he's just the crazy sitcom uncle everyone knows isn't related to them
0:02 "how do you kill a god?"
With a late game JRPG protagonist
Unless the JRPG is Pokémon in which case you *capture* God and make it participate in stage plays for your amusement
with a very permissive DM and your lucky set of dice
don't forget the power of friendship
A question only TTRP can solve...
Sometimes.
_any_ late game JRPG protagonist, and just wait around for a while
Loki is a riot. He's that one family membet that always makes a mess of things
membet
That's why between the two I actually prefer the Lokasenna to the story of Baldur as the reason for Loki's falling out with the other Aesir, if we're making a comparison.
The death of Baldur is cool and dramatic and all, but the Lokasenna is just so much more relatable. Ultimately just that one friend or relative who showed up at the party in one of his Moods, and everyone knows he's just going to spoil everything when he's Like This, but trying to get him to ease up just gets him to come in harder, and because you're family he knows just how to get everyone wound up and what raw nerves to work until one time is finally the last time, you love him and he's come through for you before, but you hate him and he's fucked you over and he's out of second chances, you're fucking done, there's just no choice except to bind him to a rock with the entrails of his son.
...okay I've never had that last part happen but, y'know, I get it.
I'm amazed Loki lived long enough to see Ragnarok in the first place
The perks of having your daughter rule over the underworld!
Hes partly the reason ragnarok is happening
@@strawberrysangria1474
Honestly, killing Baldur was just a birthday present for his lovely lass, 'here, have the bishonen for yer tea party'
@@Blaze-xe8cl Odin is halfway to blame. Jormungandr and Fenrir wouldn't have even joined if not for their imprisonment. Hel was happy with hers. She was just supporting her dad with an undead army. Baldr's death was also part retaliation, part annoyance at his bragging.
@@adamhenry7043Honestly. I'll say it. Odin was only partially in the wrong. He probably knew the fate of the Gods was inevitable and set up the building blocks for their world being replaced by a newer, brighter future.
The fucking 11 am on a Friday bit already got me like "oh damn it is friday"
Where I am, it's 6 PM.
@@PunapartaI’m pretty sure Red and Blue are somewhere on the EST because I know Blue was at one of the comic cons near me.
i like how that implies this video took like... 5 hours to make
got me even more since i woke up right as this video launched and saw it now after my morning routine
Frigg’s Day baby
The "wake me up when fimbulvetr ends" has now forever and always been the actual lyrics, and i humbly request a pin of the crying Loki birb
“Gratuitous, heavy metal album cover levels of violence”
The best kind
I loved Terry Pratchett's take on how to kill a god and its consequences in Hogfather. All the spare belief floating in the air creating gods, fairies and odd critters was hilarious.
I need to reread that, I really do...
To quote the greatest deity in all of fiction:
"Did you really think killing me would be enough to make me die?"
To quote Gandalf from Epic rap battles of history:
"You're not a reat fighter - death makes you die, it just makes my brights brighter."
Holy shit, is that an Anos Voldigoad reference from The Misfit of Demon King Academy? I'm currently reading the light novel, and it's been a blast.
@@GeonamicWarrior Watched the first season of the anime when it came out, had a good time. Think it got a second season, to which I have not gotten around to yet, although considering how the first one ended I am not too sure the story will have meaningful continuation.
@@tuukkai1841 Without saying spoilers, the second season answers a couple loose threads from the first season, but I personally didn't like it as much. Character importance seemed unbalanced compared to the first season, and I felt more confused while watching, too. Reading the LN before would probably help ease the confusion.
@@GeonamicWarrior Intresting, thanks.
"Loki Almost Kills Everyone (Again)"
"Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?"
"...to justify why the current pharaoh's favorite furry deserves a turn on the sun boat"
You know, considering how many of the Egyptian gods are anthropomorphic animals I'm surprised this joke isn't made more often online.
Ohhhh...trust me; it is. You're just not traveling the right (or maybe "twisted") social circles. 😉
Interestingly enough, the Egyptian gods were not always actually seen as people with animal heads, merely that those statues and drawings were representative of the domains the Egyptians believed the gods controlled.
I love how Loki in myth isnt exactly malicious by nature, he just f*cks around a lot, and in turn finds out, leading him to have to fix his mistakes
Odin ordering pizza in the background as Loki gets dragged through the sky by the Jotun eagle just tickles me. Loki's non-traditional thinking often gets the Norse Gods in trouble, so I was wondering what time you meant before hearing about those "legendary golden apples".
Loki: Why do you always assume I’m going to kill everyone?
Everyone: shall we list that chronologically, or alphabetically?
Loki: uuuh, by severity?
@@craytherlaygaming2852 Odin: *rolls out a comically large scroll*
@@DracoMagnius XD
“Distracted with being on fire”
That’s a good distraction
Gullveig: Barely an inconvience
Loki's expressions when Idunn is being kidnapped (3:55 and 3:59) are heartbreaking! Really conveys how he does not want to do this and hates that he is doing it because it's just a horrible thing to be doing. Kudos to you Red!
And that his regret isn't just from the rapidly approaching consequences.
Red: “How do you kill a god?”
Kratos: “Oh plenty of ways. For example, you just grasp one by the neck here, and slowly lift until-“
Helios: *“AHHHHHHHHH”*
Kratos is a simple man with clear motivations
How do you kill a God?
Limitations
Deity Consumption/Imprisonment/Divine Slayer/Banishment
Divine Power Negation/Absorption/Immunity
Divinity Nullification/Mortalization
I like how in the DLC for ragnorok when Kratos gets to the room of sacrifice, if he chooses to sacrifice himself Helios is just like "Wait, what the hell are you doing?!" because it is so out of character for the man Kratos used to be when he was younger.
With JRPG protagonists and a speech on the power of friendship.
So fun fact, in some version of this tale; the gods are also aiming their flaming arrows at Loki. Only to be disappointed that they didn’t kill him. Also some version changes the animal that Loki and Idunn transforms to. In the one I read as a kid, Loki was a Robin and Idunn was a squirrel.
In the first version of this myth in a (Modern) retelling , Loki actually feels really guilty about tricking Idunn because despite his issues he has ith Odin & company, he doesn’t have them with Idunn
5:21 "The Aesir all dogpile on while he's distracted by being on fire"
Classic Aesir!
1:52 “Pope-tested, Jesus-approved” should be a new merch quote
my brain read "Pope-Jesus, Test-approved" and I don't know why
4:50 runic live laugh love is killing me 😂
Oh yeah, good catch.
"Suffer from all three of Newton´s laws" got to be my favorite line. 🤣
Odin: "What did yo do?"
Loki: "Well, I was minding my own business..."
Odin: "BULLSH!T!!!"
Loki: "But I was!"
So whatt happened when you were 'MiNdiNg yeR Own BzNs'?!
Unfortunately...
loki isn't *nearly* that cool
I think the reason so many people think of gods as obviously immortal is because of the influence of Abrahamic religions where God-with-a-capital-G is timeless and eternal, and thus naturally immortal, which causes folks to assume gods-with-a-lowercase-g have the same attributes, even though in many mythologies, the immortality of the gods is conditional in some way (often with fruit that grants eternal life.)
So, same place we get the idea that Gods are GOOD.
Theirs also the fact many of them ostensibly live forever as the tales of different religions speak of them as if they’re still alive. Norse Mythology seems to have been one of the few to actually address it and say “they’re so long lived because of magic apples and without them time would quickly catch up to them” even when they die it’s basically Comic Book brand of death because they rarely stay dead and either reappear as they did before the incident or just transform into something else post death. Even Baldur who’s whole thing is dying comes back after Ragnarok
The Abrahamic God won't be immortal much longer if I have znything to sæ¥ about it :3
From my limited understanding, one of the older versions of the Eden story has the garden contain both a tree of knowledge and tree of immortality. The reason Adam and Eve got kicked out being to prevent them from eating from the immortality tree after the knowledge one.(thus making them gods)
@@cooper10182 pretty sure that’s the gnostic version. Which is generally considered heretical to actual Christianity. Even Mormons is more accepted than Gnostics. Humanity was made in the image of God and while popular media portrays that him looking human that’s not the actual case. The book gives a very brief description of his appearance and it’s nothing like us. What they means is we’re made in the image of his spirit, because of this the Human Spirit aka Soul is immortal. We don’t need a Tree of Life because we’re spiritually immortal. We can’t be killed in a way that would matter.
Loki is just a Sitcomm Troublemaker character, And I love it.
Red: "Here's a question: How do you kill a god?"
My brain: "What a grand and intoxicating innocence!"
Quoting the best Elder Scrolls game? I know that's right.
My brain: "Well, is it just type 1, or..?"
"...to justify why the current pharaoh's favorite furry deserves a turn on the sun boat" This is an amazing line and I love it
0:36 Reminds me of a tumblr post about dead gods in the sense of "I killed it and it's still a god" that goes "it is still worshipped, prayers are still answered, even as it lies pierced with a thousand swords and burning with chemical fire"
There is a tremendous power in worship. In fact, many deities across fiction start off as mortals and are worshipped into deification upon their death.
Just looking at Christianity you can kinda see that, with the very moment he was executed being the single most important moment in the religion across all it's sects. The moment he ascended (back in jesus case I guess) was the moment he gave his life.
Loki is more relatable in the myths than he is in the Marvel universe :)
No, he is not relatable, in my opinion he is one of the most deceitful deities.
It's true but you shouldn't say it. (The fangirls have no qualms or morals)
I really grow tired of MCU Loki fans who insult Joanna Harris' and Neil Gaiman's interpretations of the Norse Mythology because it doesn't fit with the version they're familiar with.
Like, just admit that you're all into pretty faces and aren't interested in knowledge at all.
@@Járnúlfur-Bronsörn5096Yes, and as we all know, dealing with pathological lying and pathological liars is something humans totally can't relate to at all. /s
@@MusicoftheDamnedagreed.
Loki is the token Chaotic Neutral party member in D&D who always gets the party in trouble with their antics. He's the Rogue who tries and fails to steal the king's gold or the Bard who tries and fails to seduce the dragon.
Red: How do you kill a god?
Me: Should OSP’s chaos deity be poking that particular hornet’s nest?
Thank you for the video. ❤
Yes. Yes she should.
Love the monty python reference with Sir not-appearing-in-this-film😂
This is actually the introduction of my absolute FAVE Nordic Goddess: Skadi! She is such a badass, rocking up to Asgard to wreck shop and they did NOT want to tangle with her. Good video!
thats the one that laughs at Loki's balls being tugged on by a goat yes? the joutun daughter of the guy who got burned
@@craytherlaygaming2852 The very same!! I love that story. Yeah, her dad was an idiot who tried to kidnap Idunn, but, like... SHE was amazing!
@@summerstarr3446 Girl's got her priorities straight, she knew full well her dad was at fault for messing with the asier and NOT expecting them to figure it out.... he hired LOKI... EVERYONE KNOWS LOKI DOES THIS STUFF.
Sun Wukong arrives in Asgard
Steals food, leaves epically
Loki: why did you do that?
Sun Wukong: I was hungry.
After eating all the heavenly peaches of immortality he went for a second course of golden apples of immortality. Why does that make so much sense?
I wouldn't be surprised if these stories somehow share an ancient root and were once the same.
@@IISheireenII Sun Wukong says, you can never have too much immortality.
@@RedXlV I think I can hear the Jade Court screaming about how they’ll “never get rid of that damn monkey now”.
You just doomed both mythologies with that meeting
you KNOW, those two would pull the mother of all pranks and accidentally collapse the fing cosmos
@craytherlaygaming2852 They would become great friends.
Loki: "Hey Sun want to pull the mother of all pranks on my family?"
Sun Wukong: "DO I?!?!!? Can we go to the Jade Court and mess with them next?"
Loki: "Of course! what kind of friend would I be if I said no?"
gotta love loki being loki
"suffers the curse of all three of newtons laws" is my new favorite psuedo magcal curse and I need to use it
Love the way this is framed in Neil Gaiman’s version:
Loki as Idunn is carried away: Huh. That’s bad. Well, with any luck they won’t notice she’s gone and they will never suspect it was my fault.
*Smash cut to all the gods being old*
Odin: We know it was you, Loki.
"The only way that the Norse Gods know how... Gratuitous, Heavy Metal Album Cover levels of Violence.." Bless the Aesir and Vanir.. Bless Red, Blue, Cyan, Indigo, and especially Cleo. Bless all of OSP.
Loki is Norse Mythology’s “And then there’s THIS asshole.”
[Insert 'That one's my favorite' *points at some gremlin* meme here]
please do the second part about skadi is one of my favourite myths
had consequences for this one...skadi try to merry balder but merry Njord instead they hate each other reign... skadi hate the sea and seagulls...while Njord hate the mountains and wolf's...and Loki had to make skadi laugh and he end up fighting a goat... is insane
0:03
I remember a story of while alex hirsh was writing the finle for gravity falls he and the writing staff had a big whitebord that everyone in the disey building could see with *HOW TO KILL GOD* in giant letters
I was wondering when you’d cover this story. I honestly really like this one because I could argue that the kidnapping wasn’t fully Loki’s fault, since Thiazi basically forced him into kidnapping Idunn in order for him to let Loki go.
I think it’s interesting too because in some version Loki actually feel sorry for what he did
Ehhhhhh ... once Loki had been let go, he could've just ignored the deal, stayed in Asgard and never had to worry about Thiazi again. He chose his freedom of movement over the safety of the Asgardians, and that's on him.
@@TheDaviesCR No, it's because Loki made an oath to Thjazi and wasn't gonna break it. Oaths were a big damn deal in Norse times.
@@gracecarpinter8623 He's Loki Liesmith. He breaks oaths like others break wind. It was just more convenient for him to keep this one.
@@TheDaviesCR Convenient how, exactly?
Loki almost killing everyone might as well be the Norse equivalent of Zeus getting someone pregnant.
Last time was Blue serenading us with the history of Snorri "I shall make problems for myself and all Iceland this morning" Sturleson, and now shortly afterwards we have Red giving us more Norse story times.
What a nice back-to-back.
At some point I just internalized that the Aesir work on Tom and Jerry rules.
Silly cartoon physics and ultra fucking mega violence.
I mean, you're not wrong
@@thedragonwarrior5861 Our decedents will hear that Jerry played Tom's ribcage like a xylophone and assume he was a metal head.
What do you think Valhalla is?
Loki: The textbook definition of Chaotic Neutral.
Yup, he'll screw over anybody, including himself
“Pope tested, Jesus approved” is the highlight of my day
0:03
Simple: Go the Egyptian way
They believed that a person dies three times during their life
- Once when they lose their childhood self
- Once when their mortal bodies give away
- Once when their names are spoken of for the last time
Since we treat gods as already adult and they aren't mortals, thus not having a time when their bodies will expire, the only way to kill a good would be to stop mentioning it and causing it to be forgotten
Just saying I wrote this before making it deep into the episode
"How do you kill a god?"
Me : gun-
Friend : NOO
I still like to stick to concept of "gods live while someone still remember/worship them" and dang:
every and each of gods and pantheos are *owe* so much to you, Red. (especialy Dionysos and Loki, my favs)
Keep the flames burning!
You know, for a supposed god of trickery and deceit, Loki seems to get duped way more than he should
He's the most cunning of them all. Wise, not so much
I don't think it can be said often enough how glorious these comics illustrating the story are
the Loki-Hawk crying got me so good
I cant believe you didn't mention the best part of the myth! Ok so after all of that Skadi/Skade who is the daughter of Tjazi says that as consolation she should get to choose a god to marry. The aesir agree on the condition that she can only choose based on looking at their feet. Skadi picks the prettiest pair of feet, thinking the are balder's but they actually belong to Njord, the god of the ocean who has such clean feet from standing in water all day. Skadi and Njord eventually divorce which I also think is pretty funny.
They'll tell the story another time
the fact the norse myths have stories of divorce just tickles me
Now I want a smoothie made from the magic apples from the Norse and the peaches of immortality from Journey to the West.
and ammbrosia
I'll take a Triple Immortality Smoothie(tm) too, please.
Wu Kong is that you?
Sell it as a summer refreshment!
2:00 that reminded me of a phrase in Ursula K. LeGuin's _World of Rokannon_ "their culture had no gods, only heroes"
I have to say, I like the "Looney-Tunes-Antagonist/Loveable Kids-Cartoon Villain" version of Loki way more than the "cunning badass tricks everyone" version of popculture.
0:02 As Disney hades would say, "Bingo there immortal, so what you have to do is turn the little sun spot... mortal."
THANK YOU! OMG I HAD TO SCROLL TOO FAR DOWN FOR THIS! I APPRECIATE YOU!
Was wondering if someone would do this too!
I really love Idun’s design in SMTV. Not to mention she is a really op early game demon with her unique “Golden Apple” skill which heals and buffs the entire party. (Superior to Luster Candy in my opinion) Even the quest you have to do to access her is similar to the myth with the exception that Loki was the kidnappper essentially wanting to sell her apples to make money. So it’s still a very Loki thing to do.
“Here’s a fun existential question to ponder at 11am on a Friday:”
Me, watching this video at 11am on a Friday 2 hours after it was published: HOW DID SHE KNOW?!
"Teatime of the Gods" sounds like the title of an amazing British diety sitcom.
I mean, there's a Douglas Adams book called "The Long Dark Teatime of the Soul" that has Thor in it, so . . .
"How do you kill a god"
"you can't they're immortal"
quote from Hercules I love that movie
This boy is just constantly causing disasters and I absolutely love him so much.
Anyone who know the Norse runes double check this but I think the framed runes in the giants house say "live, laugh, love"
How do you kill a god?
The Fates: You called?
"hehe thread-that-is-actually-a-living-being's-life-span go snip snip"
Fates: Well, that’s one possibility but we have many options to choose from. There’s the mistletoe option (note that this option can lead to a mass clean-up of the gods though.) You can also kill a god by having them give birth to fire. If you’re the god of the underworld that makes things easier as you simply have to lure them into your domain and not let them out. You can also trick them by killing your twin brother and resurrecting him, and then when the gods ask that you do the same to them, you don’t resurrect them. There’s also the furniture option. Make a special box for them, seal it, and toss it into the river. Like we said, there are many options to choose from.
I love the drawings in this one!! Always a fun time, thanks Red!!
"It still hurts. Like a lot."
- Greek Pantheon, God of War interpretation
Greek Pantheon: One day Zeus was h*rny
Nordic Pantheon: One day Loki was bored
YES FINALLY more loki! I was lowkey waiting on this one!
I mean, loki's lowkey always gonna make from some lowkey fun stories, and OSP just makes it better. As always.
Hell yeah. Loki.
Edit: Huh wasn't expecting the beatles today
Great video as always but special shoutout to the "teatime of the gods" bit, love me an unexpected Discworld reference, esp since it's so perfect in this context!
Loki and trouble...a match made in...Valhalla? Yeah, Valhalla.
shoutout to Tjaste for soul reading Loki so hard that he knew Loki would start whapping him with a stick after getting his dinner stolen and so he prepared his magical glue spell in advance
" world build a paradigm where gods are utterly unkillable so long as they are believed in" *shows a picture of Tiamat, from Dungeons and Dragons, where several gods have killed each other just cause*
Bird: Hi can I have one fork-full of meat?
Odin: Yeah sure
Bird: *takes out a comically large fork*
"Logi *better* not be messing with me again" loll
It feels like it's been a long time since we got a Miscellaneous Myths... it's also wonderful to hear another Red pop song cover!
Why is nobody talking about the incredible “the Pharaoh’s favourite furry” line? 😂
Loki almost killing everyone? Yeah, that's on brand for him. Seriously though, I've always thought Odin should have seen what Loki would do when Odin decided it was a good idea to kill Loki's wife and either imprison or try to kill Loki's children. The sheer rage at being forced to join the Aesir because Odin didn't take "no, I'm good where I am thanks" for an answer and giving Loki no choice must have been overwhelming
I like the part right after; where the giant’s duaghter shows up Armed to the teeth with a bunch of scary weapons to take revenge but ends up settling for a husband picked out by their feet.
I’m so used to Odin being an old man, it’s weird that he canonically eternally young.