Six Flags Magic Mountain NEW Roller Coaster Predictions For 2025!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- With Six Flags Magic Mountain getting ready to start construction on their 21st roller coaster, the biggest question remains is - HOW LARGE will it be? Also, what type of roller coaster will we see rise above the park? I share my predictions with you regarding Six Flags Magic Mountain's newest roller coaster! Could it be the Giga? That's the big question... Or, what about a Six Flags First?
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If I was a park president I would file 5 permits a year just for the enthusiasts coverage 😂
U also have to buget things also and pay employees would you be able to do that
I would love for MM to use some of that land to extend Full Throttle's layout so that the top hat brakes can be removed.
That would be awesome
If I were in charge I would reprofile Goliath into a giga by making it taller, the drop much steeper, and have more airtime hills. I would personally use the Golden Bear Theater plot of land for a new log ride that I would theme to Yosemite Sam and bring back the name, Yosemite Sam Sierra Falls.
i was just going to say this. Goliath could use a redo, its not so "Goliath" anymore, i dont think many would be upset to see it close for a giga update.
We need to get you out to SFMM. That line-up is a lot stronger than you are giving it credit for. X2 and Twisted Colossus are one of the stronger Top 2's. Tatau, Wonder Woman, Full Throttle, Batman, Apocalypse are all strong coasters as well. Not sure if the Giga is going to fit in that spot.... unless RMC TREX? 3 RMC's for one park!?!?! The Tilt coaster fits in with the SFMM model. They like to do extreme, very intense coasters.
Mid
I feel like they should demolish Goliath for the giga and use the new space for an Intamin blitz with good theming
Goliath is iconic. I wouldn’t want to see it go.
Never.
Replacing Gold Rusher with a big bear type coaster would seems more appropriate since it’s a terrain coaster
That would be awesome
@ThemeParkPredictions A launched Vekoma family coaster would work great running Gold Rusher's layout backwards. Replace the current brake run with a launch out the station, add a double-helix hill about 80 feet tall, drop down, do some swooping turns around the mountain and under Superman. Then, do a small boost to hop over the current 2nd lift hill, run through a double helix by Full Throttle, drop down where the first lift is now, and turn into the brakes / final turnaround. Would work very well for families looking for a thrill without overshadowing WCR.
My best guess is that this land will be used as part of a Giga coaster project, but I don't think the layout presented is likely. Instead, I'm thinking the giga might replace Ninja and stick entirely to the hill, then the flat portion at the bottom will be used for a kids area expansion. Unless they go for the world's largest, I don't see a dive coaster as likely at SFMM as it wouldn't add much to the park, and I personally suspect a tilt coaster may be saved as a Viper replacement that will likely be the park's next big coaster project after this one.
the gokart track is not getting removed for a while I think, because it got new karts around a month or so ago
Between this, Fast and Furious, and SWSD rumored to get a B&M wing coaster then, 2025 is going to be a great year for us SoCal coaster lovers!
Where did you hear of seaworld sandiego getting a wing coaster?
SFMM is actually redoing the go-karts for the 2023/2024 season so it's not going anywhere.
What I'd personally LOVE is a MACK X-Treme Spinner that interacted with Superman and GoldRusher.
A B&M Wing coaster could also work.
Like a B&M Giga Wing Coaster?
They just redid go-karts along with West Coast Racers.
I wish you could present your entire coaster/park layouts without the constant panning and zooming present in your videos, along with labels for each element. You should create a website/blog for that.
If Magic Mountain were to get a B&M Dive Coaster, it would replace Viper. When it comes to this particular location, it may be a B&M Giga. They have plenty of room to work with along with the massive plot of land behind roaring rapids.
Am I the only person who feels uncomfortable with Vekoma Tilt coasters? Disconnecting track makes me think of the possibility for derailing. Drop tracks and switch tracks remove the connection of track while a coaster is in circuit, but they do it on flat track. If for some reason, while tilting, the brakes or whatever is holding the coaster to the track fails, the coaster will derail and crash. I realize that the systems that keep rollercoasters are brilliant and extensive, but I just get the creeps looking at a roller coaster where down track of it, there's no connection for a bit of time. Or what if it doesn't align properly before releasing the brake. I know that it should be safe, but it still creeps me out.
Will be a wild sensation
It wouldn't release if it wasn't aligned properly. There's a sensor that has to give a green light before the release. Just like if the switch track didn't work on pantheon then the train would automatically come to a stop!! Everything you just described is the whole thrill behind a tilt coaster...the tilting part lol
It cant fail. It uses electromagnets and friction. Unless the magnets are manually and intentionally discharged, its not physically possible for them to fail.
I say they could squeeze in the boomerang coaster that sfga is getting but most of magic mountains version of it and call it like a terain name n theme it just to be perfect from the golden theater
I dont think they will get rid of the racing track because they recently added new electric cars because the ones with gas were just so bad
i cant wait for another ride at six flags magic mountain
A Big Bear Mountain ride would work at SFMM as a replacement for the Gold Rusher. Gold Rusher is slow, clunky, and not comfortable. A Vekoma could use that space very nicely.
I love SFMM and have been going there since the mid 1970's. I think a Mack Extreme Spinner, as good or better than Ride to Happiness, would make the most sense to fill the existing park line-up. A tilt coaster is just a gimmick followed by another looper and does little to the line-up. X2 already offers a faceplant drop, and you can get a dive coaster nearby at Knott's and SeaWorld. A giga would be a terrific addiction, but would SFMM pay the price for it?
I'm putting my bets on the B&M Dive Coaster like Dr. Diabolical's Cliffhanger. The reason is twofold.
Firstly, the construction signs blocking off what used to be the entrance to the Golden Bear Theater have this weird mechanical bird on them. I've never seen that bird before at the park. It definitely reminds me a lot of the mechanical owl from the preshow for Cliffhanger.
Secondly, the park recently updated all of their computers(at least the food service ones) and they all now feature Dr. Diabolical's Cliffhanger as the screensaver.
Such exciting coaster prediction times we're living in!! 🙌 🎢
Pure and utter nonsense per usual. Cedar Fair management is running the chain come the 2024 merger. They don't do majors coasters in short order and SFMM needs a ton of stuff, starting with a complete revamp of food service and new higher capacity restaurants like the ones all the major Cedar Fair parks have received recently. Park also need major aesthetics, maintenance spruce ups and logistic and staffing. The kids section os also essentially non existent, look for a near term investment in that too. CF is going to actually do the premiumization that Selim failed at and that means a lot of quality of experience stuff and coasters less, 4 yr intervals.
Actually no, #1, the merger isn’t even finalized yet. Not until 1st quarter of 2024.
And at that point - whatever major rides and any coaster that’s planned for the parks would have been set before the merger.
So whatever SFMM is planning in 2025 - the merger will not effect it
@@TP_Recommendations Per usual you haven't any idea what you're talking about.Yes, it will, both chains already started planning for this in early 2023. This merger was in talks late 2022 and was full on talks by Jan 2023, that has been revealed. They knew this was happening for sure by May/June, though not announced. Things each chain did subsequently in 2023 and going in to 2024 were about prelim integration. ie...Cedar Fair changed it's pass system and lowered the cost for all parks to just about $200 to $205. Why? to lower the gap between CF and SF all parks. SF finally started offering all park flash pass to test run the interest for the eventual integration with Cf's all park fast lane. I can name a half dozen other things that show clearly each moving things towards the other for the merger.
If it's on that plot, something where terrain is used would be awesome. Helix by Mack did that, and I have thought something like that on the hillside at SFMM would be a great choice, especially something visible on the front side. But you are probably right - troll the dregs of abandoned projects by other parks. Isn't that how Great Adventure ended up with the boomerang?
That would be legit
Flip the footprint around and have it go back towards the entrance and have the turnaround in the grassy area by the parking gates
This needs to be an Intamin or Mack flume ride like Chiapas with a High Sierra theme to make up for removing The Log Jammer.
If they go for a B&M Dive, why not go big and make it a few feet taller than Yukon Striker, and maybe make the drop 91° or 92° (or even steeper)? This way you would not only have the tallest Dive Coaster in the world, but also the tallest beyond vertical drop ever. From a marketing perspective it would be just stonks📈
It would be interesting, but Emperor already being at swsd makes them go a different route I'd say. Unless they really go off and make it 200ft or taller. It would also depend on if it's in the original style of the dive coaster or like Emperor and iron menace where it's all fast paced
Whatever it is in 2025, they know they are competing directly with Fast and Furious at Universal.
Think they are going to with a family type similar to big bear mountain at Dollywood
Rmc T-Rex
Love the predictions! It always blows my mind when people say they don't think MM has a great coaster line-up, I still see it as best in the world , could take a couple away and still compete for best lineup. Anything new is gravy! Stoked to see what they do next, incredible park doing incredible things.
Not even close. MM has a mid lineup. Nothing is really a standout, although people act like the overrated X2 is a standout. I guess if you like your head banged on the headrest. To have 20 coasters....and THAT'S their lineup...it's kind of lame. They should replace a couple before building new. Gold Rusher, for example, needs to go away. It sucks and a multi launched family coaster like Great Bear Mountain in its place would be awesome.
@@RA-hx9uc Yeah it's comments like yours I don't understand, X2, Tatsu, Full Throttle, Twisted Colossus, West Coast Racers, Superman, Wonder Woman, etc are all elite coasters, most the best of their kind. Gold Rusher is a classic arrow mine train and is exactly what it should be.
A Great Bear Mountain would be an incredible addition and be another solid coaster to bridge the gap from thrill to family.
Excited for the future
@devinschroath I do not consider any of those elite. Flying coasters are a gimmick I don't enjoy, so Tatsu is not that great to me. Twisted is nowhere near elite or the best of its kind. WCR and FT are not elite launch coasters. Just because it's old doesn't mean gold rusher is any good. Superman is mid. It's not even worth a wait. X2 is rough in the 2nd half. I personally think Apocalypse is better than all of those except TC. There are multiple better versions of each of those elsewhere. For instance, even though I don't like flying coasters much, Manta at Seaworld Orlando is better than Tatsu, in my opinion. Cedar Point, Kings Island, Hersheypark all have better collections, just for a few examples. All of it is subjective, of course, but hopefully that helps you understand my comment. And living in L.A., MM is one of my home parks.
It's not worth listening to anything this idiot say he thinks Carowinds is a good park not even fury can save there boring lineup
Is it possible/likely for them to tear down goliath, and use its plot for a giga that stretches all the way to the former theatre and back? That gives them enough land to build a fairly large giga, possibly the tallest in the world.
Way too expensive
They would be more likely to just retro fit Goliath rather than tear it all down and restart
expansion for looney tunes, have a big bear coaster and name it after bugs bunny?
It seems like giga has become the “mephisto” for coasters
Yay! A new video!!! I’m so excited when I see one!
hoping for another mack rides coaster in the west coast
Would love that
Didn’t they just fire their park president? They got so many problems going on that I think they’re just going to focus on making the experience better. If they do get anything it would probably be small imo.
This ride has been in the works for 3 years, even before Wonder Woman
@@Johnnyiswhere The Ceo would have shot it down because of their new strategy. Well before they changed back to adding thrill rides.
@@Starlit43he did shoot it down. And then he relaunched it ( along with the solar project) after he nearly destroyed the company. There’s also no way Great Adventure’s 2024 coaster was going to happen 2 years ago either.
@@Johnnyiswhere great adventures coaster was last minute. Not a plan from before. Maybe they did bring it back but I have my concerns.
@@Starlit43 that’s what I meant. There were no plans to add a coaster for Great Adventure’s 50th at the beginning of Selim’s tenure, until he screwed up so bad his job was at stake. He basically went back to what the previous CEO had planned. It was too late to revive the planned Giga for Great Adventure, so they purchased the Boomerang last minute. SFMM’s coaster was still in development. Also, look at the park’s history. They don’t remove landmark structures unless a sizable ride will replace it. They still have plenty of room for smaller projects.
Perhaps I'm in the minority but for right now, I'd rather see SFMM focus on keeping their current 20 coasters maintained and actually operating and improve some of the horribly aged infrastructure around the park before plopping in number 21. That theater is such a nice wooded area too, I hope it's not just all concrete in the future.
That would be possible if the new CEO hadn’t screwed up pricing so badly that people stop coming. Now they need something to bring guests back to the park. They’re backed into a corner
What about a B&M Wing, like Hyperion? Or Mack Extreme Spin or Intamin spin to compete with F&F.
It's a vekoma flyer!!! I'm so excited!!!
They should built a spinning coaster or Dive coaster
I see a B&M here….most likely a dive or wing coaster….probably a wing is more likely being unique in cali.
I don't like the idea of a giga running over the mountain and multiple rides. Especially when it would block sightlines to Riddler and Wonder Woman from the entrance. Park skylines are NOT to be ruined when you have a dozen MASSIVE coasters already. Over Georgia could do this with Goliath because most of the layout ran outside the park and Georgia Scorcher was less popular than Batman The Ride and Superman Ultimate Flight. If Magic Mountain is getting a giga, it'll happen when Six Flags closes Goliath and Titan, ordering two near-identical B&Ms without MCBRs at s discount. They'll be about the length of Orion, but with more turns.
If the SFMM Giga coaster prediction comes true who do you think will be the manufacturer of this epic coaster B&M, Intamin, or Vekoma?!
Prob B&M
Energylandia did not cancel the contract, the European Union retracted the financial subsidies for that coaster. So Energylandia said: We do not have the money to buy it anymore. So it is a chain reaction really.
Oh ok! Bummer I wish they did have the money
@@TP_Recommendations Energylandia builds everything with European citizen's tax money. So it is basically a themepark funded by European citizens.
I here a giga dive
6:00 Dive coasters a great but one thing, B&M put some air time on these! Outer bank floater for GP please. AND STOP THE IMMELMAPOCALYPSE!
Next video idea: Knotts is adding a new coaster! What’s next?
Trackless Giga tilt coaster…. Great potential combo of three ride types
Why didn't I think of this? Damn!
Dark ride giga
So my dream for Magic Mountain's next coaster is that they get the first T-rex and it be a giga (ideally replacing Goliath.) I don't think having a Raptor and T-rex in the same park would necessarily be redundant. Either that or they somehow convince Intamin to build a new prefab woodie on the hillside where Viper is.
But if we're being more realistic in the short term, I'd say they'll get a medium size Vekoma or maybe Intamin. I wouldn't be surprised if they got a water coaster like the clonable models from Intamin.
I'd keep Viper for nostalgic purposes.
I say: tear out Apocalypse and put in the Intamin Prefab in it's spot like they intended at one point as the West Coast version of El Toro.
@@seanlewis1148 I like Apocalypse and Viper. I was a little kid when Viper opened and it's got a lot of nostalgia for me. But I know Viper won't last forever and it's on a great plot of land. I'd also like the park to have a second woodie. It's weird that both Cedar Point and Magic Mountain each only have one true wooden coaster.
What ever the coaster is, I hope they theme it, and theme it well.
9:30 A lot of belief they could finish by the end of 2024, that'd be like 14 months, why not.
Ten bucks says it is for a new flat ride and kids area expansion, with a Kid Flash Clone
Nothing wrong with that at all
Giga please! From Intamin ! Would be a great coaster!!
No dive coaster please !
Giga dive coaster.
No way they go B&M dive coaster with Emperor at SWSD. Yes, they are far apart but it’s not gimmicky enough for Six Flags to market
Fiesta was the first SF park to get a B&M Dive. It’s likely that SF my be interested to give one to other parks like SFGAm and SFOG as it is very marketable and is likely B&M’s cheapest model they offer.
INTAMIN PLZZZ💙💙💙💙💙🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
i swear another year , and no giga. Please SF, DO A GIGA!!
My dream for MM. ..stop making the bumper cars be a one-way ride. It's bumper cars for christs sake.
Haha
And SFOGA getting a water ride. When are we (SFOGA) going to get that standout coaster. But congrats SFMM cant wait to see what is to come!
Good prediction, but's whats going to happen because of the cedar fair merger? will this project be cost cutting
2025 plans have always been in the works and paid for partially for the larger coasters like this :)
What about a giga Starflyer?
I think they need one but not in this location :)
@@TP_Recommendationsmaybe by Wonder Woman then where the maze is. But I think a zamperla nebula or air race would be better there.
21st coaster... you gotta be kidding me, since my last overseas visit in 2011 I think I have to come back
not such a fan of the dive coasters since they are kinda all the same
I would not say sadly about removing the go carts. No one would care about them leaving
The station will be at the top of the mountain using the empty building/restaurant near Superman, building a 200 foot lift that will drop 300 feet
Man let’s be honest do you think SFMM is due for another coaster? How about a nice high thrill flat ride package.
Yes 2025 :)
A 350 ft Giga coaster buy B&M
Yes
They gotta make magic mountain look like a amusement park and not abandoned park
Overall it's one of the better looking Six Flags parks but they do need to go through and get rid of abandoned structures (or fix them up and use them) and continue area refurbishments. But it does have some pretty decent areas. Great America and Fiesta Texas have overall better appearance but Magic Mountain still does better than most of the others in the chain when it comes to appearance.
My biggest beef with the park aesthetic (other than Scream having the worst placement in the chain) is the fact that they don't refurbish the Sky Tower. That's just aggravating.
@@zacg_thank you this is a fair take it's definitely not that bad looking park it needs improvements nobody arguing that but this guy with abandoned park how else could he say without saying he obviously never been there before. I also wish they would get the tower open again but more then anything they need some shade and to hire enough employees to run it
I think power surf
Here’s what I think is going to happen in 2025 coaster wise for six flags. Great America has their anniversary in 26’ so I don’t see them getting a coaster. I think Fiesta is a prime candidate. Magic mountain with all the problems they got I would say no. You can rule out over Georgia but not great adventure. They’re taking down the arena next to Medusa and a multi launch will go there. Since flash was last minute they’re getting to build a coaster they really wanted to have. Every other six flags park is a flip of the coin.
Fiesta getting a coaster
RMC T-Rex?
I do like that layout you showed if this was to be a giga. Magic really does need a hard hitting coaster. X2, Tatsu, Viper and RIddler are my favorite coasters at the park everything else is ok. A dive coaster would be awesome but it would have to be big since seaworlds dive coasters is only 4 hours away. A Tilt would be a cool coaster to have but i rather them get a good size Axis coaster first. I would love to see a Mack Xtreme Spinner coaster come to magic that would be amazing but i know that will never happen sadly. Magic is my home park and I am excited to see what replaces the theater. Im just hoping its not a clone lol.
what r u yappin about
Spinners SUCK!!! Please be a giga! Or a massive RMC! They need to bring back log jammer! Make it a dark ride too.
It might be a giga dive. They won't build a coaster unless it breaks a record!!
💚
Its a giga
Sorry, not sorry to break it to you, but SFMM isn't getting a coaster in 2025. The first thing Cedar Fair's management will be running things post merger( CEO and CFO) is invest in the multitude of deficiencies of SFMM. That starts with actual better dining and higher thru put dining. They will surely get a restaurant like Farmhouse or Coney's or Backbeat with the duel side food serving that can serve a large number of people per hour. SFMM like all SF parks have ridiculous long food lines b/c of logistics and poor staffing. I wouldn't be surprised to see 2 restaurants in 2025 at SFMM, while closing a bunch of the walk up food options with poor thru put. The other thing they will get in 2025 is likely aesthetic changes, clean the park up, etc... Park doesn't need a coaster and CF management is not into quick sequence of major coasters, they just got several coasters in quick time frame, the next coaster will be 2026 at the earliest. The kids section is also essentially non existent, look for a near term investment in that too, besides food/restaurants.
Whatever is coming to SF in 2025, Cedar Fair will have little to nothing to do with it.
@@Johnnyiswhere Wrong, you do know the merger was in talks since Jan 2023 and a bunch of things that each did in late 2023 and for 2024, even pre merger announcement fit that goal of integration. They knew this was likely happening by May/June, though not announced till November
@@MCQ-fq6bv them knowing, and being able to make financial decisions for SF pre merger are not a thing.
@@Johnnyiswhere This cleaerly beyond you as you have no experience in finance. This merger was in talks late 2022 and was full on talks by Jan 2023, that has been revealed. They knew this was happening for sure by May/June, though not announced. Things each chain did subsequently in 2023 and going in to 2024 were about prelim integration. ie...Cedar Fair changed it's pass system and lowered the cost for all parks to just about $200 to $205. Why? to lower the gap between CF and SF all parks to make integration easier. SF finally started offering all park flash pass to test run the interest for the eventual integration with Cf's all park fast lane. I can name a half dozen other things that show clearly each moving things towards the other for the merger. Once a merger is agreed each starts integration and consulting on decisions. CF management isn't going to allow Sf, poor finances already blow up their finances in the last year to come into the merger even as a bigger albatross than it already is for CF and it's management team. SFMM silly fanboys as yourself are going to be crying when SF doesn't get a coaster in 2025.
@@MCQ-fq6bv This take has to be a joke right? Coasters are planned years in advance. Six flags isn’t just going to stop everything because the deal could’ve fell through. Also CF isn’t canceling project’s already in motion because if you actually go to the parks you would see that progress is being made. Also CF would be losing money if they just straight up cancel them at this stage. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
Funny how your video for Cedar point you super excited and make huge predictions but for SFMM the first 2 you said are horrible picks the only is GIGA and SFMM should get over a 350 to 400 Ft GIGA something like Falcon Flight SA should be the only one getting massive Roller coaster. like i said before change you name to Cedar Point 1# Fan
You must be a child
@JD.778 not but u can't tell his love for cedar point or cedar fair theme parks over Six Flags theme
Thanks Brandon for your thoughts of the next magic mountain ride have a question why did you rank x2 that low on the other video not your cup of tea most people rank that in there top 5
I have never ridden x2 :)
I live 10 minutes from MM, havent ridden x2 in at least 5 years,its really not all that, 1st drop is a cool gimmick, after that meh and /or getting beat up, youre not really missing out B,other than the credit.... We go to Knotts more often, pass holder to both