I came to the same conclusion a while back. Looked at Sonos ended up with Yammy MusicCast. Looked at a Honda Forza, got a Yammy Xmax. Looked at a Strat, got a Yammy Pacifica. Yamaha just make quality stuff across the board at decent prices. THR will be next!
@@gooble69 One lovely aspect of the THR10 models is that you can always find very good sounding settings that still make you 'work' for the tone and flow, just like you would on a valve amp.
Best trick with these THR amps is to find more tone variations with delay hi cut knob in Yamaha THR Editor. It's like you could change the mic and it's position in front of the amp. Yamaha THR Editor has an easy to use interface but you must always remember to save the tone to library and then save the library file also. That's hard to remember.
I‘ve had the THR10 and the 10C. I prefer the 10C. Don’t be fooled into thinking you can’t get a good distorted rock sound from the 10c. You absolutely can especially if you go into the editor. The clean sounds with tape echo and reverb on the 10c are fantastic.
10C is great.Love it.Have two of them,I put overdrive or distortion pedals,before it and reverb amd delay pedals ,after it using a stereo split cable from the headphone output then straight into pedals and interface.Record direct trough the USB port, or mic it for room ambience,it has all the recording options I need.
The small one looks like a thr5. The thr10 should be the same size as the 10c - according to what I've seen. I have the 10c and it's great, but I agree with your criticisms of it. Wasted slots. Very little option in terms of gain. So kind of disappointing there. The software is neat but a pain to use and still doesn't get enough gain/crunch. Thanks for the review - and thanks also for all your videos!
Well that's why I went for the THR10x. Lowering the gain settings with low to medium (even slightly hot) humbuckers on the high gain models results in a diversity of voicings for the clean stuff. Best thing yet, if you have proper taper pots and maybe some treble boost to boot, you can even do it with the gain past 12 o'clock by just rolling off the volume knob on the guitar :)
In its defense, the C isn't supposed to have heavy gain . It's specialized for Clean to light OD . If you wanted a variety of high gain amp models , the ( also now discontinued) X model was for you .
Purchased my THR 10 after viewing one of your vids. Love, love love the amp especially through headphones and small room live play. I also have the editor feature which really gives fine control features. Love your lessons too. Thanks for this comparison .
Great video! Thanks for the comparisons. I’ve been racking my brain trying to decide between the regular THR10 and the THR10C. I’m sticking with the original THR10. I play mostly classic rock like your Doobie Brothers China Grove.
Did you choose? I must say Yamaha did a great job at the product but in helping the customer to choose... I play from "The war on drugs" Clean dreamy sounds to "Tool" metal gainy sounds... But I really liked the way the Thr10C sounds... To get the most out of the dreamy sounds you'd say C, but to get the gain for Tool... you'd say normal 10...
Yes . The Original ( no suffix) are more " versatile " , in that they do a little of everything. It's subjective if that's a good thing for you. If you actually play * every genre * , and they are of equal priority for you , then the Original ( no suffix) or the current is will be good for you. If you primarily play clean , then the C will give you multiple options . ( Presumably same with the X for metal, but not my wheelhouse ) .
One of yamaha's selling point on the C model is that the channels stay clean longer so you can get a wider range of slightly dirty tones, wich I like. Anyone here knows if the original version really gets gainy a bit too.quickly.for low-medium gain players? Thanks in advance!
That's one of the reasons I went with the 10 C, which as you can tell from the review I regretted. I actually think the clean tones as well as the range of tones are better on the original and stay just as clean loud.
Quick question Hoodrio? Do you know if you can you put the "PHONES" headphones 1/4 inch jack output into a MONO speaker cabinet (8" 10" 12" 15") for a little more punch? 8 Ohm 4 Ohm 16 Ohm Impedance might be an issue and if the output jack is in stereo (3 wires) can you just tie the wires from the left and right channels into the tip of the speaker cab connector and keep the ground wires matched? I feel like I watched a video of yours a while back where you mentioned you were playing with the THR5 through a speaker.
OK, I sorted something out using a stereo splitter cable in the headphone jack from 1 stereo 1/4 inch output to 2 mono 1/4 connectors. Then I built a "Y" input in a metal pedal box enclosure soldering two 47 K Ohm resistors from the left and right "hot" signal channels into a single mono output channel, which I feed into my Fender amp with the bigger speaker. All the re amplified modeled sounds from the THR5 now come through much louder through the Fender amp.
I forgot to mention that reading the names of the controls on the 10C is challenging depending on the light conditions, very annoying and poorly thought out.
하루미 if you're only going to use acoustic guitar, then I would imagine the acoustic model would be preferable, but if you're going to use both electric and acoustic get one of the models that does both.
Hey absolutely great insightful video! If you are going to play Classic Rock, like Beatles, Rolling Stones, Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Green Day, AC/DC, what do you recommend. I'm trying to decide which one to buy!
Thanks! As indicated in the video, I would get the original 10: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/THR10--yamaha-thr10-10-watt-2x3-inch-modeling-combo?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI94TKpabG2QIVxLjACh24iwB_EAQYAiABEgIxK_D_BwE
The 5 sounds like its in a box or playing mic'd down a cardboard tube. If you could get that sound you played at the start through the 10c then maybe but you never got rid of that boxy/farty sound.
I wanted a blues junior but thought I would have to always play loud to get tone so would this amp satisfy me for that? I have just bought Yamaha p115 piano and HS-5 studio monitors and love them too!
Lol I have the blues Junior and I'm looking at the thr5 or 10. Anazing tube with killer tone but need something for a smaller space (were in a condo now).
Yes, you can use pedals, although it kind of defeats the purpose of having a small simple portable rig. I never tried it, but people do say they take pedals pretty well. Let us know how it goes.
I'm a bit torn with the original or 10C since i like the amps, especially for blues, but like you say if you want more gain for some reason it isn't there. Shame this can't be edited in to a least one model on the 10C. I can see why that have marketed it this way and it means you have to buy more than one. Thanks for the video, think I will go for the original in the end.
OR , if you want a little of everything across the spectrum of amps ( and music genres) , you would still buy just one . But it would have been an 1st Gen No Suffix, or a current ii . The C and the X were specialized for one end of the spectrum or the other .
not sure why anyone would get one of these over a Fender Mustang or Vox Valvetronix which are essentially the same price. while the tone is nice, you can really hear the dinkyness of the tiny speakers in these things.
There are a lot of reasons, including the size and portability. But in terms of the sound, I agree. I much prefer the bigger sound of my Fender Champion 20 with the 8 inch speaker.
@@Hoodrio thanks, i actually like the tone, but the speakers just had that really dinky sound(no balls) i have heard other demos where it actually sounded more ballsy...thanks again, great demo!
@@giantessmaria they actually sound pretty huge overdriven. Check out this example where I am playing the five and hanging with a larger amp and drum machine. th-cam.com/video/BZ_sWon6Xcs/w-d-xo.html
The II series looses battery support in the lower priced model. While they do have the amp models of the C and X, I still prefer the sound from the original C. The 10II is better - in some way, but not $150 better. And sonically, and physically I prefer the original version
@@nlprelated4375 at the time I made the video, the 10C was the newer one. Yamaha has since come out with version two these THR amplifiers, so if I was starting from scratch I would probably buy the THR10ii.
There’s a fellow here on YT (m.th-cam.com/video/RBWFYHlmq94/w-d-xo.html) who insists his older version Roland Microcube is still better than this THR5, which I find hard to believe. If you’ve tried the Microcube. what’s your take on this?
Dude Yamaha is awesome. They just don't make junk. From motocycles to pianos to guitars to keyboards.
And the drums are awesome!
historically from pianos to everything else ;-)
Wait untill you try their violins.
I came to the same conclusion a while back. Looked at Sonos ended up with Yammy MusicCast. Looked at a Honda Forza, got a Yammy Xmax. Looked at a Strat, got a Yammy Pacifica. Yamaha just make quality stuff across the board at decent prices. THR will be next!
@@gooble69 One lovely aspect of the THR10 models is that you can always find very good sounding settings that still make you 'work' for the tone and flow, just like you would on a valve amp.
Best trick with these THR amps is to find more tone variations with delay hi cut knob in Yamaha THR Editor. It's like you could change the mic and it's position in front of the amp. Yamaha THR Editor has an easy to use interface but you must always remember to save the tone to library and then save the library file also. That's hard to remember.
I‘ve had the THR10 and the 10C. I prefer the 10C. Don’t be fooled into thinking you can’t get a good distorted rock sound from the 10c. You absolutely can especially if you go into the editor. The clean sounds with tape echo and reverb on the 10c are fantastic.
Not to mention the compressor ... ALWAYS USE THE COMPRESSOR!!!
10C is great.Love it.Have two of them,I put overdrive or distortion pedals,before it and reverb amd delay pedals ,after it using a stereo split cable from the headphone output then straight into pedals and interface.Record direct trough the USB port, or mic it for room ambience,it has all the recording options I need.
Brilliant informative video. This is exactly what I have been looking for.
Thank you. Your review helped me make up my mind. Going for the THR 10 🙏🏻🙏🏻
The small one looks like a thr5. The thr10 should be the same size as the 10c - according to what I've seen. I have the 10c and it's great, but I agree with your criticisms of it. Wasted slots. Very little option in terms of gain. So kind of disappointing there. The software is neat but a pain to use and still doesn't get enough gain/crunch.
Thanks for the review - and thanks also for all your videos!
Thanks for your comments, Lawrence. And yes, the video title does specify THR5.
Well that's why I went for the THR10x. Lowering the gain settings with low to medium (even slightly hot) humbuckers on the high gain models results in a diversity of voicings for the clean stuff. Best thing yet, if you have proper taper pots and maybe some treble boost to boot, you can even do it with the gain past 12 o'clock by just rolling off the volume knob on the guitar :)
In its defense, the C isn't supposed to have heavy gain . It's specialized for Clean to light OD .
If you wanted a variety of high gain amp models , the ( also now discontinued) X model was for you .
Purchased my THR 10 after viewing one of your vids. Love, love love the amp especially through headphones and small room live play. I also have the editor feature which really gives fine control features. Love your lessons too. Thanks for this comparison .
Great video! Thanks for the comparisons. I’ve been racking my brain trying to decide between the regular THR10 and the THR10C. I’m sticking with the original THR10. I play mostly classic rock like your Doobie Brothers China Grove.
same here.. can't decide between the two for a blues rock use.. any suggestion? I wonder if the original is just more versatile
Did you choose?
I must say Yamaha did a great job at the product but in helping the customer to choose...
I play from "The war on drugs" Clean dreamy sounds to "Tool" metal gainy sounds... But I really liked the way the Thr10C sounds...
To get the most out of the dreamy sounds you'd say C, but to get the gain for Tool... you'd say normal 10...
Yes . The Original ( no suffix) are more " versatile " , in that they do a little of everything. It's subjective if that's a good thing for you.
If you actually play * every genre * , and they are of equal priority for you , then the Original ( no suffix) or the current is will be good for you.
If you primarily play clean , then the C will give you multiple options . ( Presumably same with the X for metal, but not my wheelhouse ) .
I ended up getting the original (no suffix) and am pretty happy with it.
Exactly what i wanted to know. Thanks a lot !!!
One of yamaha's selling point on the C model is that the channels stay clean longer so you can get a wider range of slightly dirty tones, wich I like.
Anyone here knows if the original version really gets gainy a bit too.quickly.for low-medium gain players? Thanks in advance!
That's one of the reasons I went with the 10 C, which as you can tell from the review I regretted. I actually think the clean tones as well as the range of tones are better on the original and stay just as clean loud.
@@Hoodrio Thanks for the precision, I missed that out even after watching your excellent.demo.a few times. Cheers!
Thank you for this useful review. I was thinking 10C but am now leaning towards the original 10. I enjoy your other videos too.
Thanks for the vids I just stumbled upon tonight brown sugar :)
Quick question Hoodrio? Do you know if you can you put the "PHONES" headphones 1/4 inch jack output into a MONO speaker cabinet (8" 10" 12" 15") for a little more punch? 8 Ohm 4 Ohm 16 Ohm Impedance might be an issue and if the output jack is in stereo (3 wires) can you just tie the wires from the left and right channels into the tip of the speaker cab connector and keep the ground wires matched? I feel like I watched a video of yours a while back where you mentioned you were playing with the THR5 through a speaker.
@100 Alright, thanks for the "feedback". I just go the little THR5 used on the weekend. So I will follow your advise. Merci beaucoups.
OK, I sorted something out using a stereo splitter cable in the headphone jack from 1 stereo 1/4 inch output to 2 mono 1/4 connectors. Then I built a "Y" input in a metal pedal box enclosure soldering two 47 K Ohm resistors from the left and right "hot" signal channels into a single mono output channel, which I feed into my Fender amp with the bigger speaker. All the re amplified modeled sounds from the THR5 now come through much louder through the Fender amp.
I forgot to mention that reading the names of the controls on the 10C is challenging depending on the light conditions, very annoying and poorly thought out.
That's true for THR10X as well, since it's even lower contrast (that army matte green vs gold really makes for a tough read)
Hoodrio Yes, that’s what I discovered, too. Couldn’t read the lettering very well on the 10C.
Great video. Is the 3-band eq on the 10 really a negligible advantage?
Thanks. I didn't find the extra EQ particularly helpful, but I am kinda interested in the THR30.
I want to connect the amp to my acoustic guitar. Which is better THR10 V2 or THR5A?
하루미 if you're only going to use acoustic guitar, then I would imagine the acoustic model would be preferable, but if you're going to use both electric and acoustic get one of the models that does both.
I think the hall reverb sounds better on the 10c prob the wider separation , I actually prefer the 10c but it’s more expensive and feature loaded
Yeah, in the video the10C definitely sounds bigger and better, but in the room they sound extremely comparable.
@@Hoodrio for low volume playing would you recommend the 10 c or the 10 newer mark ll ?
@@benallmark9671 I would get the latest model.
@@Hoodrio thanks for the response
Hey absolutely great insightful video! If you are going to play Classic Rock, like Beatles, Rolling Stones, Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Green Day, AC/DC, what do you recommend. I'm trying to decide which one to buy!
Thanks! As indicated in the video, I would get the original 10:
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/THR10--yamaha-thr10-10-watt-2x3-inch-modeling-combo?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI94TKpabG2QIVxLjACh24iwB_EAQYAiABEgIxK_D_BwE
Thank you, oh, that's what you meant by the original! Sorry, I thought you were talking about the THR5. Thank you again, for clearing that up!
@@Hoodrio really c'mon for classic rock the 10c all the way
The 5 sounds like its in a box or playing mic'd down a cardboard tube. If you could get that sound you played at the start through the 10c then maybe but you never got rid of that boxy/farty sound.
I wanted a blues junior but thought I would have to always play loud to get tone so would this amp satisfy me for that?
I have just bought Yamaha p115 piano and HS-5 studio monitors and love them too!
Yes.
Lol I have the blues Junior and I'm looking at the thr5 or 10. Anazing tube with killer tone but need something for a smaller space (were in a condo now).
@Hoodrio, do you have talbs from this spanish song?
Here you go: th-cam.com/video/f-ZYzOKIYmo/w-d-xo.html
sometimes I like to play loud in a detached house, can it play fairly loud?
The clean tones are not really loud, but overdriven it can crank a bit. Not as much as the original THR10.
I like the 10 c ..better .
Does the THR5 work well with pedals? Is it possible to use pedals through it? :)
Yes, you can use pedals, although it kind of defeats the purpose of having a small simple portable rig. I never tried it, but people do say they take pedals pretty well. Let us know how it goes.
I'm a bit torn with the original or 10C since i like the amps, especially for blues, but like you say if you want more gain for some reason it isn't there. Shame this can't be edited in to a least one model on the 10C. I can see why that have marketed it this way and it means you have to buy more than one. Thanks for the video, think I will go for the original in the end.
You've answered your own question. They want you to buy more than one.
OR , if you want a little of everything across the spectrum of amps ( and music genres) , you would still buy just one . But it would have been an 1st Gen No Suffix, or a current ii .
The C and the X were specialized for one end of the spectrum or the other .
not sure why anyone would get one of these over a Fender Mustang or Vox Valvetronix which are essentially the same price. while the tone is nice, you can really hear the dinkyness of the tiny speakers in these things.
There are a lot of reasons, including the size and portability. But in terms of the sound, I agree. I much prefer the bigger sound of my Fender Champion 20 with the 8 inch speaker.
@@Hoodrio thanks, i actually like the tone, but the speakers just had that really dinky sound(no balls) i have heard other demos where it actually sounded more ballsy...thanks again, great demo!
@@giantessmaria they actually sound pretty huge overdriven. Check out this example where I am playing the five and hanging with a larger amp and drum machine. th-cam.com/video/BZ_sWon6Xcs/w-d-xo.html
Does the original 5 model have Tap Tempo?
Mine does
So is the original a THR10 or THR5? I realize the black one is a 10C
The original is a 5, so I feel confident that the original 10 will sound even bigger/better than my 5, and be more versatile than the 10C.
THR10C or TRH10ii for clean breakup boutique tone?
The newer versions have all the models from each of the originals, including the 10C, so it’s a no-brainer to buy the new one.
The II series looses battery support in the lower priced model. While they do have the amp models of the C and X, I still prefer the sound from the original C. The 10II is better - in some way, but not $150 better. And sonically, and physically I prefer the original version
Which is the newer one?@@Hoodrio
Which one would you recommend buying?
@@nlprelated4375 at the time I made the video, the 10C was the newer one. Yamaha has since come out with version two these THR amplifiers, so if I was starting from scratch I would probably buy the THR10ii.
There’s a fellow here on YT (m.th-cam.com/video/RBWFYHlmq94/w-d-xo.html) who insists his older version Roland Microcube is still better than this THR5, which I find hard to believe. If you’ve tried the Microcube. what’s your take on this?
I liked the Microcube but they are not comparable, THR far superior.
what is "fartyness"?
Flubby bass
You may have saved me from buying the C