Wanted to clarify any miscorrect information I made regarding the entries on my behalf. Apologies in advance. I make mistakes sometimes. It happens. Hope you understand. 6:31 The Whsiper of Room 209 was initially believed to be a voice actor rehearsing gibberish, but it was later found out to be stock audio. 11:13 Ernest Baldwin is the name i meant to say. I accidentally said James Baldwin by mistake. Born From a Wish was not an unlockable but rather was included in the Restless Dreams Edition from the start.
Lots of detail sall good. 14:00 This may have already been pointed out but there are similar fans in SH2. There is literally a fan with a save point on it in the original.
The pyramid head fight lasts 3min without putting any damages , about 1m40 with hitting him with the wooden plank , and about 1m20s with the pistol (standard difficulty )
The letter becomes blank right after beating Eddie, after the letter disappears completely, a short time later the envelope also disappears, implying that there was no letter ever and it's slowly being dissolved by reality
Imo the reason James looks to the side while using the final save point is because he can’t look at himself in the reflection anymore. The save points have a glossy and reflective surface after all
9 squares represent 9 types of enemies he encounters. All enemies are a manifestation of him/Mary. Since he realized what he has done, can't look at it. :) at least my theory.
@@tutiso The enemies are also each reflections of different aspects of Jame's psyche and actions. Hes looking away from what hes down now that he remembers what hes done and has collected them all (with the 9 square save point).
Another cool fact: if you inspect the alcohol bottle that Maria poured from, its brand is "Fifth River." The fifth river of the underworld in Greek mythology washes away the memories of dead spirits. I think this references the fact that James has deluded himself into forgetting that he killed Mary
I remember that after you meet Maria, and you go to a red square to save - she'd freak out and ask if you are okay because she says that you "just froze".
@@StarStarbreez Yes. She only mentioned it once on my playthrough. But I figured I mention it here because there was a mention of Jame's feeling when saving by the well.
@@Outdated_App I think it's proof that no one else can see the red squares (we still don't know what those are) but James. Maybe the red squares are also his manifestations.
I just finished the game twice and I'm baffled on how well Bloober did their research. I always had faith on them but wow, I was not expecting this many references and carefully crafted details, this is a true love letter to not only SH2 but the entire franchise, top 3 games of the year for me.
Mary’s body is def in the backseat due to the resurrection ending where he takes her body to the island to perform the resurrection ritual after acquiring the correct objects in the game.
I think it's neat that in the "Stillness" ending, Maria will talk to James from the backseat, adding additional substance to the backseat corpse theory
The reason why Silent Hill 2 it became a classic is because eventually people began to see how unique, eerie, melancholic and authentic the game's atmosphere it really is, and took the time to enjoy its deeply thoughtful narrative and symbolism. To this day it’s by far one of, if not the most mature examination of grief, sexual trauma, suicide, and morality all combined. It’s an intelligent game that does not hold anyone’s hand and comes at the player with utmost confidence in itself. It’s fantastic stuff. The rest of the original 4 are great in their own right and have their own well written stories, but they don’t hold the same emotional weight to them. I think SH2’s maturity by comparison is something that a lot of people are drawn to. ☯️
Yeah the gameplay was dated even at the time of the original release honestly. The themes and atmosphere are the best of the best. Seriously some of the deepest lore and storytelling ive ever seen in any form of media.
I really appreciated how mature and "thick" the dialogue in this game was. Each line felt important or symbolic in some way and I felt the voice acting was superb too.
The mocap and facial animations are also incredible. Best example is probably every scene with Eddie, whom is surprisingly significantly better overall than he was in the original in part because of this.
You can actually find the blanket James threw over Marys body in the car... It's on a couch somewhere in the Labyrinth. Not a major easter egg, but I thought it was a cool detsil
Speaking of the letter When you enter the elevator that requires you to remove your items because of weight, you can actually bring the letter with you cause…. You know….
I feel like the reason James is looking to the side in the last save point is because, after accepting that he killed Mary, he can no longer look himself in the eye.
The room 209 voices triggered my ape brain to actually fly out of my chair when i was playing because it sounded like someone was behind me talking IRL. Good game
man, that was my first time ever experiencing silent hill 2. the whole time i figured the glimpses of the past were hints to where the story was going!😂 i read so much into it at the time, turns out its just nostalgia core for the original lol
Came to comment this. I saw it in Nubs video. The sound comes from The Nightingale Voice Box Volume 1&2" th-cam.com/video/fiy29yYRwfg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=aeZXdGrBxs0keGaq At 53:40 in this vid.
In Toluca Prison, there is a deep voice that speaks if you hang out in the prison cell with the cult iconography long enough. I couldn't catch if it was saying actual words.
Also in the Silent Hill Historical Society when we enter it, there are paintings on the walls and on one of them is the picture of hole we jump in to get to the prison segment and I believe it is literally a still taken from the og SH2 when we enter that room with hole. I immediately recognized it when I saw it!
One more reference is in dialogue with Maria while entering the bowling building. James says that she can wait outside and Maria answers with surprise - why would she want that. In the original Maria stayed outside when James visited the building.
you missed how Brahms is suppossed to be the next town over from Silent Hill but throughout the series it's inconsistent and the distance to Brahms sign being worn off could be a reference to this. also the newspaper referencing Walter isn't in the same place it used to be. these are some of the few minor details you didn't mention, other than that this is great.
The 9 red squares can represent the 9 circles of hell. James is not staring at himself anymore as he is ashamed and guilty of what he had done. Incredible detail.
Really? It clicked for me immedietly with the first one. You trigger the first one by walking up to the entrance to the town you normally go through in the original, and I walked up to it assuming thats where I was supposed to go before the camera angle shifted.
There is another little Easter egg in the dialogue when you go to Pete’s Bowl-o-Rama with Maria. In the remake, James will tell Maria she can stay outside if she likes, to which she responds asking why she’d want to do that. That’s a reference to the original, as under the same circumstances, when James gets to Pete’s Bowl-o-Rama, Maria says she’ll wait outside, as it’s not her thing (or something like that, I don’t recall the exact wording)
The room in Woodside Apartments where James hides in the closet from Pyramid Head (i think its 201?) The bedroom looks suspiciously like the one James killed Mary in. And when you first walk in theres a faint gasp from a woman, I could only hear it with headphones. I heard it again at the entrance to Rosewater Park. Also that same apartment is seen again in the Ruined section of the labyrinth. I think its meant to be a recreation of James' and Mary's actual home
The room you enter into Bluecreek apartaments is the mirror of the Woodside one, only in the otherword Pyramid Head has smashed the closet with his sword where James was hiding in the Woodside's counterpart.
Born from a wish was never unlockable in the original release, it was only ever available in the Xbox release and the later released ps2 greatest hits version where it was available from the start.
Damn catching Angela's nails, its a cool detail but its easy to miss. I'm glad I know it, it gives her an extra boost, which shes already pretty damn fleshed out but this is a cool detail. So small and yet effective. I'm glad they gave the pizza reference, one of the best lines in gaming.😂❤
You can actually find the blanket James threw over Marys body in the car... It's on a couch somewhere in the Labyrinth. Not a major easter egg, but I thought it was a cool detail
James has two different animations with the chainsaw, the pose in this video, and another where he holds it above his head and grunts. In the original game, he would make a rather comical scream instead.
I thought the same thing, but its actually the shadow from your flashlight while its turned on. If you turn off your flashlight its hard to see, but there isn't a stain on the clothing.
Here's a detail I've noticed and haven't seen mentioned anywhere: in the original SH2, after killing Eddie, James utters "I've killed a person". In the remake, James only rubs his hands in the same way he rubbed his hands at the beginning of the game.
13:23 - just to clarify, there are several frames that can be seen, if the player waits and watches long enough. Each time the screen flickers it shows a different frame / section of the tape, until presumably it cycles through them all. I didn't count specifically but I believe I saw at least 6 different ones before getting bored and moving on. I did note though that these can also be seen from up in the first projector room, before you squeeze through into the second where Laura is seen running away.
That VO whisper thing is actually just some weird stock sound thing from something else entirely. The one dude that said it was rehearsing lines or whatever was apparently him not remembering properly.
@@Walamonga1313 if it looks just like the one in this video, it's my mod. I only saw one other mod that touches his jacket textures, but it does not restore patches, but adds an angel on his back.
1:49 - Worth mentioning: the distance to Brahms has been worn away, but can be seen to real 265 (presumably miles). This is a dual reference. The HD Collection changed the number to something much smaller (I think like 16 miles?) and this became a whole debate in the community. There was some speculation that the original was meant to be 26.5, but I don't think we've ever gotten confirmation on that, at least as far as I'm aware. The fact that it's rubbed away in the Remake seems like Bloober's way of saying "nobody knows how far Brahms really is", but they also left remnants of the original number.
I finished the game the other day and kept checking the letter. It doesnt fade slowly but only changes after the labyrinth area. The text disappears when you reach Lakeview and progressing further, even the envelope is gone
There’s also a short part after Maria’s death, where you look at Mary’s picture and you can see a scar near her mouth. When ya look back again, it’s gone! Shocked the heck out of me.
Old Silent Hill and Brahams being in the road sign at the beginning was also in the original version of the game. It WAS pretty cool nod to SH1 still, though.
Most people don't know, but actually most 2000s games bought music licences and remixed them. The classical RE4 save theme and SH2 "whispers", both of them are remixes.
@@xAustishxYup the movie is called Cube and was also in a Samurai Jack Episode (“Jump Good”), first Monster Hunter Swamp area, and in Devil May Cry 1’s “Ancient Castle Stage”.
For some reason I didn't realize horror games existed until the Xbox 360 generation, so I missed out on the original Resident Evil and Silent Hill games. I am so blown away by this game, I've been playing it every day since it released, I have 5/8 endings so far. I REALLY hope Konami contracts Bloober Team to make more Silent Hill remakes.
James, as I'm sure you already know, does 2 different things with the chainsaw..the 1 you showed in the video as well as another 1 where he holds the chainsaw over his head and slightly shakes it lol 😂 Awesome video! My mind is blown about the rumor or whatever about Mary's body being in the backseat under a blanket the whole time! 🤯 😲 But it makes the 1 ending make more sense when he looks back at the backseat 👍
About the echoes, I kind of wish they gave us an explanation to what those memories were in the collectables screen. When I first experienced it, I was confused to why it does that, I thought there was a hidden puzzle that I needed to do. lol
I suppose it would be super confusing to someone out of context lol The idea with most of em early game though is that you wouldnt interact with them unless you played the original. Like the original entrance to the town you go through in the original game being in front of your in view, but off path. You logically would only interact with it if you are familiar with the original and did so on instinct.
Can’t wait to watch this after I get all the endings. I did find the ones on the thumbnail tho. First thing I did was check the back of the car during my first play through 😂
A fun little one that I discovered yesterday is, when you go to Happy Burger, on the wall is their menu and prices. All the drinks are super cheap given the time period except one, the milkshake which is $5.00. This is an absolute nod to the movie Pulp Fiction.
one detail i havent seen anyone mention is that the mirror in the bathroom at the start is the only mirror we can see james reflection in. i think this kinda comfirms the game is a dream. you cant see your own reflection in a dream
do u know why the sign to bhrams is blurred on the distance to it? its another easter egg due to the fact the sign was changed for HD collection and changed again for enhanced edition mod, which i know they have played due to the cord on the fridge, only enhanced has that and its in remake as another easter egg, also the whisper is from stock footage, i forget the actual soundtracks name but its from an old spooky stock sounds album, u can find the exact whisper, jaremy only THINKS it may have been a voice actor but it was actually just a stock sound
After my playthrough of the new remake of sh2 I think I finally may have answered a persisting question regarding the 3 year inconsistent lapse of time between Marys death and when James talks to Laura about it and she says that's wrong. I'm starting to believe the reason why James keeps saying 3 years because in his mind when Mary first got so unmanageably sick 3 years ago that it consumed his life that's when in his mind she died as apposed to her official passing. He then kills her, puts her body in the baskseat of his car, stops by a local restroom to compose himself before he pursues his next coarse of action, then time for him stops after 9 and it's reflected on all of the clocks and he is trapped in an psychological eternal recurrence.
well i mean the game kinda obviously explains it when laura reveals that she turned 8 a week before the events of the game. james killed mary, took her body to silent hill to do god knows what with, has a psychotic break in the bathroom and then the game happens. this is why he checks his hands at the very start and when he kills eddie. mary didnt die 3 years ago, and we know she never sent him a letter. the letter and his line of thought is all pure delusion. i personally believe that yes the entire game does happen inside of his head because the mirror in the bathroom at the start is the only mirror in the game that you can see james reflection in and you cant see yourself in dreams.
Regarding the letter from Mary, it goes thru several state changes thruout the game after big story moments, just like the original game. Once you kill Eddie, the writing disappears from the letter and it is just a blank piece of paper. And then the letter disappears and it is just an empty envelope. Finally, the entire envelope disappears from your inventory leaving just the knife, the handkerchief, and your photo of Mary. These state changes match the original game.
Right under the sign with the Old Silent Hill reference there is a Pyramid Thing Easter egg. One board has a "hilt" and a triangle shape in the fence behind it.
The Walter news report and gravestone were actually in the original game. Silent Hill 4 was famously. Built entirely off of that news report and a seperate note you can find in Silent Hill 3 by a journalist whom is relevant to 4's plot.
Haha, James comments that looking at the square makes it feel like someone is "groping around [his] skull", not "someone going in his skull to grope him". Slightly different implication there!
The Born from a Wish sub scenario actually wasnt in the very original at launch. It was added to the Restless Dreams version when it got ported to Xbox, and then later added to the Greatest Hits version on PS2. To me, I know SH2R is Playstation Exclusive for a year, itd be pretty great if Born from a Wish is added to the Xbox release when it goes there as homage to how it originally was added. Make it DLC for Playstation of course haha, but launching it around that time would be a neat little repeat of time.
also James didnt REMEMBER he killed Mary, he always knew he did, it was just his hope that maybe it didnt take. Thats kind of the powerful thing about SH2, its not amnesia, its just punishment.
In the prison, there is a cell you can open, and every time i walked close to a certain wall i would hear a sound come from one of the wallls from an enemy i didnt encounter in the entire game that confused me a little.
The save point location in the Nightmare Hotel is just similar to the one in the OG game. The fan is smaller and there´s no garbage in there with it, but it´s pretty much the same setting.
I read that there's supposedly a corpse in the prison with a spoon on its neck that is a nod, or even the corpse of, Walter Sullivan who killed himself that way
Not sure if it's a reference or not but in the saul street apartments at the top level inside of the bathroom where you put your hand in. It reminds me of the bathroom from silent hill 4 sort of like a very similar design with the hole being there and very similar layout from the one in sh4
I am absolutely loving silent hill 2 remake the puzzle got me at first cuz I never played the original 😅 but I finally beat it and got the leave ending reloaded my save and got the in water ending
James seeks to be punished for his crime, hence he sees all corpses in the city as himself. Eddie, however, is killing his bully/tormentor over and over, not James. It is one of many hints that James, Angela, Eddie, and Laura are each seeing very different versions of Silent Hill. James is decaying, like Mary and her disease, full of feminine monsters reflecting his thoughts about Mary. Eddie's is cold, reflecting his growing enjoyment of killing, Angela's is always ablaze, like flames of torment and hatred, and Laura - the only completely innocent person - sees nothing out of the ordinary.
Wanted to clarify any miscorrect information I made regarding the entries on my behalf. Apologies in advance. I make mistakes sometimes. It happens. Hope you understand.
6:31 The Whsiper of Room 209 was initially believed to be a voice actor rehearsing gibberish, but it was later found out to be stock audio.
11:13 Ernest Baldwin is the name i meant to say. I accidentally said James Baldwin by mistake. Born From a Wish was not an unlockable but rather was included in the Restless Dreams Edition from the start.
Lots of detail sall good.
14:00 This may have already been pointed out but there are similar fans in SH2. There is literally a fan with a save point on it in the original.
The pyramid head fight lasts 3min without putting any damages , about 1m40 with hitting him with the wooden plank , and about 1m20s with the pistol (standard difficulty )
Mary's letter doesn't only disappear. If you check it late enough in the game before it's disappeared, it'll be just a blank piece of paper.
The letter becomes blank right after beating Eddie, after the letter disappears completely, a short time later the envelope also disappears, implying that there was no letter ever and it's slowly being dissolved by reality
Imo the reason James looks to the side while using the final save point is because he can’t look at himself in the reflection anymore. The save points have a glossy and reflective surface after all
And he probably doesn't wanna look at the player. Its a very "you know what I did now.." look
9 squares represent 9 types of enemies he encounters. All enemies are a manifestation of him/Mary. Since he realized what he has done, can't look at it. :) at least my theory.
@@tutiso The enemies are also each reflections of different aspects of Jame's psyche and actions. Hes looking away from what hes down now that he remembers what hes done and has collected them all (with the 9 square save point).
@@tutisothere's also another reading into the 9 Red squares, I forgot what😅 though
Another cool fact: if you inspect the alcohol bottle that Maria poured from, its brand is "Fifth River." The fifth river of the underworld in Greek mythology washes away the memories of dead spirits. I think this references the fact that James has deluded himself into forgetting that he killed Mary
or that maria is trying to get james to forget about finding mary and his delusion and just move on with his life
I wish there’s a video on YT with all the items he interacts with that are actually nudging him towards the truth. Like slogans and the letters etc.
I remember that after you meet Maria, and you go to a red square to save - she'd freak out and ask if you are okay because she says that you "just froze".
the hotel save point at car only place she sais it and does it saved at bowl o rama and she had zero reaction
@@StarStarbreez Yes. She only mentioned it once on my playthrough. But I figured I mention it here because there was a mention of Jame's feeling when saving by the well.
@@Outdated_App I think it's proof that no one else can see the red squares (we still don't know what those are) but James. Maybe the red squares are also his manifestations.
@@Outdated_App you mean James' right?
@@aaron75fyHaha. Yes.
I just finished the game twice and I'm baffled on how well Bloober did their research. I always had faith on them but wow, I was not expecting this many references and carefully crafted details, this is a true love letter to not only SH2 but the entire franchise, top 3 games of the year for me.
Only top 3 of the year? This is very well my favorite game of all time now
@@Locked4ever easily in my top 2 of all time as well. what other game this year even comes close to this one? I can't think of any
The level of detail is crazy.
@@duckypiee yeah i cant even think of another two good games that came out this year
Mary’s body is def in the backseat due to the resurrection ending where he takes her body to the island to perform the resurrection ritual after acquiring the correct objects in the game.
I can't believe that you didn't mention Eddie's fog breath from his every cutscene
Yes! This! His Silent Hill is more like Harry's from Shattered Memories.
I think it's neat that in the "Stillness" ending, Maria will talk to James from the backseat, adding additional substance to the backseat corpse theory
she’s there. It’s not really a theory anymore at this point
Yeah she's there, no discussion. In water ending we see her blurred out dress in the backseat
The reason why Silent Hill 2 it became a classic is because eventually people began to see how unique, eerie, melancholic and authentic the game's atmosphere it really is, and took the time to enjoy its deeply thoughtful narrative and symbolism. To this day it’s by far one of, if not the most mature examination of grief, sexual trauma, suicide, and morality all combined. It’s an intelligent game that does not hold anyone’s hand and comes at the player with utmost confidence in itself. It’s fantastic stuff. The rest of the original 4 are great in their own right and have their own well written stories, but they don’t hold the same emotional weight to them. I think SH2’s maturity by comparison is something that a lot of people are drawn to. ☯️
Yeah the gameplay was dated even at the time of the original release honestly. The themes and atmosphere are the best of the best. Seriously some of the deepest lore and storytelling ive ever seen in any form of media.
I really appreciated how mature and "thick" the dialogue in this game was. Each line felt important or symbolic in some way and I felt the voice acting was superb too.
The mocap and facial animations are also incredible. Best example is probably every scene with Eddie, whom is surprisingly significantly better overall than he was in the original in part because of this.
Voice acting was the biggest disappointment.
You can actually find the blanket James threw over Marys body in the car... It's on a couch somewhere in the Labyrinth. Not a major easter egg, but I thought it was a cool detsil
The Pizza for Eddie has the same function as Maria for James, they represent props for them to keep going further into the town madness.
wonder if eddie hears the spiderman 2 pizza theme lol drives him to madness
Can't stop imagining Eddie witnessing Pyramidhead eating Eddie's pizza over and over again to punish him for his sins
Yeah it's a manifestation of their desires. In James' case, his sexual frustration, and in Eddie's case, his gluttony.
Speaking of the letter
When you enter the elevator that requires you to remove your items because of weight, you can actually bring the letter with you cause…. You know….
cause its non existant? wow so many details of this game
Oh my god...what insane detail
And this is also one of the things you can do to get a specific ending.
I mean, you can bring photo too. Does it mean it's a picture in James's mind, of a better, healthier Mary he is looking for?
Really? I swear I tried bringing the mary related stuff and still triggered the weight warning
I feel like the reason James is looking to the side in the last save point is because, after accepting that he killed Mary, he can no longer look himself in the eye.
You missed Eddie’s van in the parking lot with the Bible reference license plate about being kind to one another.
Wait, i thought eddie came to silent hill with laura? This is all new to me 😂
@@juniordriver487yeah they did, she carpooled with him
@@helianthe3457 interesting
Hey! That’s Eddie’s van!
*10 minutes later*
Hey! That’s Eddie’s van!
It isn't James Baldwin, it's Earnest Baldwin. There's actually a little joke where Maria assumes his last name would be Hemingway
The room 209 voices triggered my ape brain to actually fly out of my chair when i was playing because it sounded like someone was behind me talking IRL. Good game
The empty envelope at the end is so heartbreaking
Wait why?
@@eskindermamo4178 bc it implies Mary never wrote the letter bringing him to Silent Hill - James is just a wackjob
man, that was my first time ever experiencing silent hill 2. the whole time i figured the glimpses of the past were hints to where the story was going!😂 i read so much into it at the time, turns out its just nostalgia core for the original lol
That whisper Easter egg is actually a stock sound and not the voice actors
Wasn’t it revealed to be one of the actors speaking nonsense to himself from the og?
No it was speculated by the translator that it was a clip from those sessions but later was confirmed to be a stock audio
I remember when someone found that out they got harrassed by some community members for "ruining the mystery"
@@Thatitchyguy …I suppose it’s fitting for a series that regularly deals with mental illness to attract the mentally ill.
Came to comment this. I saw it in Nubs video. The sound comes from The Nightingale Voice Box Volume 1&2"
th-cam.com/video/fiy29yYRwfg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=aeZXdGrBxs0keGaq
At 53:40 in this vid.
In Toluca Prison, there is a deep voice that speaks if you hang out in the prison cell with the cult iconography long enough. I couldn't catch if it was saying actual words.
It's saying "ritual" over and over again. I read about it on the Silent Hill wiki (not the Fandom version).
@@abomasnow4 Sick. Also, that makes sense.
It’s very very unsettling. I hated that basement floor 😂
Also in the Silent Hill Historical Society when we enter it, there are paintings on the walls and on one of them is the picture of hole we jump in to get to the prison segment and I believe it is literally a still taken from the og SH2 when we enter that room with hole. I immediately recognized it when I saw it!
One more reference is in dialogue with Maria while entering the bowling building. James says that she can wait outside and Maria answers with surprise - why would she want that.
In the original Maria stayed outside when James visited the building.
I didn't realize what the flashback moments were. Now they make sense, especially with the loop theory being very plausible
the bread one got me, NICE ONE
you missed how Brahms is suppossed to be the next town over from Silent Hill but throughout the series it's inconsistent and the distance to Brahms sign being worn off could be a reference to this. also the newspaper referencing Walter isn't in the same place it used to be. these are some of the few minor details you didn't mention, other than that this is great.
The 9 red squares can represent the 9 circles of hell. James is not staring at himself anymore as he is ashamed and guilty of what he had done. Incredible detail.
The glimpse of the past moments are soo cool, didn’t realize exactly what was happening at first and when it clicked it was so exciting
Really? It clicked for me immedietly with the first one. You trigger the first one by walking up to the entrance to the town you normally go through in the original, and I walked up to it assuming thats where I was supposed to go before the camera angle shifted.
There is another little Easter egg in the dialogue when you go to Pete’s Bowl-o-Rama with Maria. In the remake, James will tell Maria she can stay outside if she likes, to which she responds asking why she’d want to do that. That’s a reference to the original, as under the same circumstances, when James gets to Pete’s Bowl-o-Rama, Maria says she’ll wait outside, as it’s not her thing (or something like that, I don’t recall the exact wording)
The little details in this game are incredible.
The room in Woodside Apartments where James hides in the closet from Pyramid Head (i think its 201?) The bedroom looks suspiciously like the one James killed Mary in. And when you first walk in theres a faint gasp from a woman, I could only hear it with headphones. I heard it again at the entrance to Rosewater Park. Also that same apartment is seen again in the Ruined section of the labyrinth. I think its meant to be a recreation of James' and Mary's actual home
The room you enter into Bluecreek apartaments is the mirror of the Woodside one, only in the otherword Pyramid Head has smashed the closet with his sword where James was hiding in the Woodside's counterpart.
That gasp is in the tape at the exact moment he starts to smother Mary. Its literally Mary's last breath haunting james throughout the game
@@telefrag. Omg 😳 I'll have to look closer on my next run, that's so sick!!
@@patokia8619 I'm love that Bloober added more details and subtle foreshadowing like that ❤️
@@telefrag. strange though since pyramid head doesn't usually get the knife until you get the knife from Angela.
Born from a wish was never unlockable in the original release, it was only ever available in the Xbox release and the later released ps2 greatest hits version where it was available from the start.
Still.
@@PackageCatness ending
Damn catching Angela's nails, its a cool detail but its easy to miss. I'm glad I know it, it gives her an extra boost, which shes already pretty damn fleshed out but this is a cool detail. So small and yet effective.
I'm glad they gave the pizza reference, one of the best lines in gaming.😂❤
You can actually find the blanket James threw over Marys body in the car... It's on a couch somewhere in the Labyrinth. Not a major easter egg, but I thought it was a cool detail
its also on a bed in the saul street apartments.
James has two different animations with the chainsaw, the pose in this video, and another where he holds it above his head and grunts. In the original game, he would make a rather comical scream instead.
8:27 after the hospital, go back to the closet: the outfit will be steined with blood where Pyramid Head hit Maria.
I thought the same thing, but its actually the shadow from your flashlight while its turned on. If you turn off your flashlight its hard to see, but there isn't a stain on the clothing.
Nope. Wrong
Multiple reality
There are a lot of references to Walter Sullivan - I wonder if they'll re-make 'The room' eventually too, since this was such a success... Great vid 😊
there are a lot of references to sullivan in the original too.
Here's a detail I've noticed and haven't seen mentioned anywhere: in the original SH2, after killing Eddie, James utters "I've killed a person". In the remake, James only rubs his hands in the same way he rubbed his hands at the beginning of the game.
13:23 - just to clarify, there are several frames that can be seen, if the player waits and watches long enough. Each time the screen flickers it shows a different frame / section of the tape, until presumably it cycles through them all. I didn't count specifically but I believe I saw at least 6 different ones before getting bored and moving on. I did note though that these can also be seen from up in the first projector room, before you squeeze through into the second where Laura is seen running away.
That VO whisper thing is actually just some weird stock sound thing from something else entirely. The one dude that said it was rehearsing lines or whatever was apparently him not remembering properly.
Oh I see you used my mod for James's jacket 💙
I'm using it too, thanks for uploading that mod :)
I was hoping someone would make this. Youre doing the lord's work
Thanks for the mod. Unsure if I used yours but if I did, it was excellent
@@Walamonga1313 if it looks just like the one in this video, it's my mod. I only saw one other mod that touches his jacket textures, but it does not restore patches, but adds an angel on his back.
I used it also. It's sooooo good.
I swear the whisper was one of the creepiest things in the game, it made my skin crawl
I think we'll be finding secrets in this game for years to come y'know
1:49 - Worth mentioning: the distance to Brahms has been worn away, but can be seen to real 265 (presumably miles). This is a dual reference. The HD Collection changed the number to something much smaller (I think like 16 miles?) and this became a whole debate in the community. There was some speculation that the original was meant to be 26.5, but I don't think we've ever gotten confirmation on that, at least as far as I'm aware. The fact that it's rubbed away in the Remake seems like Bloober's way of saying "nobody knows how far Brahms really is", but they also left remnants of the original number.
Actually you can check Maria's letter throughout the game and it slowly fades
I finished the game the other day and kept checking the letter. It doesnt fade slowly but only changes after the labyrinth area. The text disappears when you reach Lakeview and progressing further, even the envelope is gone
There’s also a short part after Maria’s death, where you look at Mary’s picture and you can see a scar near her mouth. When ya look back again, it’s gone! Shocked the heck out of me.
Old Silent Hill and Brahams being in the road sign at the beginning was also in the original version of the game. It WAS pretty cool nod to SH1 still, though.
Very excited for all these deep exploration videos of the Remake!
Most people don't know, but actually most 2000s games bought music licences and remixed them. The classical RE4 save theme and SH2 "whispers", both of them are remixes.
Re4 safe room theme is also in a movie, as well as monster hunter and devil may cry I believe
@@xAustishx Yes, it's almost a classic like the Wilhelm Scream
@@xAustishxYup the movie is called Cube and was also in a Samurai Jack Episode (“Jump Good”), first Monster Hunter Swamp area, and in Devil May Cry 1’s “Ancient Castle Stage”.
the blanket is not only covered in flowers - they're forget-me-nots.
For some reason I didn't realize horror games existed until the Xbox 360 generation, so I missed out on the original Resident Evil and Silent Hill games. I am so blown away by this game, I've been playing it every day since it released, I have 5/8 endings so far. I REALLY hope Konami contracts Bloober Team to make more Silent Hill remakes.
I would not be surprised if they were already doing another SH remake, but haven't announced it yet.
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Preferably the first one.
James, as I'm sure you already know, does 2 different things with the chainsaw..the 1 you showed in the video as well as another 1 where he holds the chainsaw over his head and slightly shakes it lol 😂 Awesome video! My mind is blown about the rumor or whatever about Mary's body being in the backseat under a blanket the whole time! 🤯 😲 But it makes the 1 ending make more sense when he looks back at the backseat 👍
I just wish that in when the Remake a game you can have it to where the characters end up wearing the outfits from the original game
About the echoes, I kind of wish they gave us an explanation to what those memories were in the collectables screen. When I first experienced it, I was confused to why it does that, I thought there was a hidden puzzle that I needed to do. lol
I suppose it would be super confusing to someone out of context lol
The idea with most of em early game though is that you wouldnt interact with them unless you played the original. Like the original entrance to the town you go through in the original game being in front of your in view, but off path. You logically would only interact with it if you are familiar with the original and did so on instinct.
Ernest Baldwin. James Baldwin is the author and civil rights activist.
Lmao
Please devs, make the born from a wish dlc
And somehow make it super long and expanded
In the rebirth ending you can definitely see that Maria's corpse is covered with the blanket
There is an Easter egg in Blue creek that has the bathroom from Sh4. With the the hole and the mirror
15:51 JAMES LOOK OUT
Dude was like: "Ey! Get away from my snacks! 😂😂😂
0:30 I see you installed the mod to restore the patches on James’ jacket
The whole game and story is pure genius. Absolute masterpiece
Can’t wait to watch this after I get all the endings. I did find the ones on the thumbnail tho. First thing I did was check the back of the car during my first play through 😂
I feel like the inventory screen from the very beginning is also the videotape of you killing Mary, but zoomed in?
Awesome video ! And James looks so much better with the patches on the jacket !
Wasn’t it reveled that the whispering from room 209 is some stock sound ?
A fun little one that I discovered yesterday is, when you go to Happy Burger, on the wall is their menu and prices. All the drinks are super cheap given the time period except one, the milkshake which is $5.00. This is an absolute nod to the movie Pulp Fiction.
Thank you for all details you shared ❤
one detail i havent seen anyone mention is that the mirror in the bathroom at the start is the only mirror we can see james reflection in. i think this kinda comfirms the game is a dream. you cant see your own reflection in a dream
do u know why the sign to bhrams is blurred on the distance to it? its another easter egg due to the fact the sign was changed for HD collection and changed again for enhanced edition mod, which i know they have played due to the cord on the fridge, only enhanced has that and its in remake as another easter egg, also the whisper is from stock footage, i forget the actual soundtracks name but its from an old spooky stock sounds album, u can find the exact whisper, jaremy only THINKS it may have been a voice actor but it was actually just a stock sound
After my playthrough of the new remake of sh2 I think I finally may have answered a persisting question regarding the 3 year inconsistent lapse of time between Marys death and when James talks to Laura about it and she says that's wrong. I'm starting to believe the reason why James keeps saying 3 years because in his mind when Mary first got so unmanageably sick 3 years ago that it consumed his life that's when in his mind she died as apposed to her official passing. He then kills her, puts her body in the baskseat of his car, stops by a local restroom to compose himself before he pursues his next coarse of action, then time for him stops after 9 and it's reflected on all of the clocks and he is trapped in an psychological eternal recurrence.
well i mean the game kinda obviously explains it when laura reveals that she turned 8 a week before the events of the game. james killed mary, took her body to silent hill to do god knows what with, has a psychotic break in the bathroom and then the game happens. this is why he checks his hands at the very start and when he kills eddie. mary didnt die 3 years ago, and we know she never sent him a letter. the letter and his line of thought is all pure delusion. i personally believe that yes the entire game does happen inside of his head because the mirror in the bathroom at the start is the only mirror in the game that you can see james reflection in and you cant see yourself in dreams.
@ sorry add is real
I noticed the eye bags on James during the "YOUR Mary?" Scene with angela
Brahms itself is also a reference to a town from Castlevania II.
Regarding the letter from Mary, it goes thru several state changes thruout the game after big story moments, just like the original game. Once you kill Eddie, the writing disappears from the letter and it is just a blank piece of paper. And then the letter disappears and it is just an empty envelope. Finally, the entire envelope disappears from your inventory leaving just the knife, the handkerchief, and your photo of Mary. These state changes match the original game.
Right under the sign with the Old Silent Hill reference there is a Pyramid Thing Easter egg. One board has a "hilt" and a triangle shape in the fence behind it.
Also he does the Chainsaw reference to The Texas Chainsaw Massacre that was in the OG as well.
The og voice line is a sound bite of a cd they used for stock sound.
Wait you can have Maria follow you to the mansion? My playthru I was alone for that whole sequence. Can you stop her from dying maybe?
I re-did the fight with pyramid head when it ended and i realized it was just timed, was not walking away after dumping all that ammo. 😂
The Walter news report and gravestone were actually in the original game. Silent Hill 4 was famously. Built entirely off of that news report and a seperate note you can find in Silent Hill 3 by a journalist whom is relevant to 4's plot.
You know what that Original Maria Outfit Easter egg gives? It gives DMC: Devil May Cry "Not in a million years" energy, but done right. 😂
Haha, James comments that looking at the square makes it feel like someone is "groping around [his] skull", not "someone going in his skull to grope him". Slightly different implication there!
love this game
The Born from a Wish sub scenario actually wasnt in the very original at launch. It was added to the Restless Dreams version when it got ported to Xbox, and then later added to the Greatest Hits version on PS2. To me, I know SH2R is Playstation Exclusive for a year, itd be pretty great if Born from a Wish is added to the Xbox release when it goes there as homage to how it originally was added. Make it DLC for Playstation of course haha, but launching it around that time would be a neat little repeat of time.
also James didnt REMEMBER he killed Mary, he always knew he did, it was just his hope that maybe it didnt take. Thats kind of the powerful thing about SH2, its not amnesia, its just punishment.
In the prison, there is a cell you can open, and every time i walked close to a certain wall i would hear a sound come from one of the wallls from an enemy i didnt encounter in the entire game that confused me a little.
The save point location in the Nightmare Hotel is just similar to the one in the OG game. The fan is smaller and there´s no garbage in there with it, but it´s pretty much the same setting.
The whisper was actually just a stock sound fx. Feels like you only did some surface level research for this.
He missed that several things were from the original or were references to the original as well.
It would be awesome if they created dlc for Maria, Eddie, Angela and Laura
I read that there's supposedly a corpse in the prison with a spoon on its neck that is a nod, or even the corpse of, Walter Sullivan who killed himself that way
the whisper in 209 is from an audio cd of sound effects that they used. It has not been recorded by anyone on the team. It's been debunked before
I heard the 9 squares represents all the creatures James comes across throughout the game
The empty envelope is from the original game. The only difference is that it's a blank note.
Not sure if it's a reference or not but in the saul street apartments at the top level inside of the bathroom where you put your hand in. It reminds me of the bathroom from silent hill 4 sort of like a very similar design with the hole being there and very similar layout from the one in sh4
I am absolutely loving silent hill 2 remake the puzzle got me at first cuz I never played the original 😅 but I finally beat it and got the leave ending reloaded my save and got the in water ending
11:18 White Chrism!
Everybody has missed silent hill too much. I hope this hype may force konami to make other games’ remakes
15:52 James look out, James, bro looK OUT
"Yeah Steven, look oooooooout"
Lmao
Another interesting detail I noticed is that the corpses that Eddie has killed are all actually James if you look close enough. No idea why tho.
ALL of the corpses in the game look James. This was actually a detail carried over from the original game.
James seeks to be punished for his crime, hence he sees all corpses in the city as himself. Eddie, however, is killing his bully/tormentor over and over, not James. It is one of many hints that James, Angela, Eddie, and Laura are each seeing very different versions of Silent Hill. James is decaying, like Mary and her disease, full of feminine monsters reflecting his thoughts about Mary. Eddie's is cold, reflecting his growing enjoyment of killing, Angela's is always ablaze, like flames of torment and hatred, and Laura - the only completely innocent person - sees nothing out of the ordinary.
James Baldwin? You mean Ernest Baldwin?
another idle chainsaw animation is the leatherface chainsaw dance from TCM2. this animation was also in the original game.
The first Pyramid Head encounter is 3 mins long, not 6.