I always wanted to play blades but was told I’m not good enough (15 handicap). Finally decided to try some used Titleist 690 mb’s and my first round with them I beat my personal best by 5 strokes and had zero double bogies. Never let anyone tell you what you “should” be playing: As Matt said, if you hit them well and you like how they look/feel, they’re meant for you
This might be complete bullshit but I feel like when you play blades your brain knows that there is less margin for error so you intern make better swings which makes better strikes and better scores
I play the 620 MB and I absolutely love them. I tried out the MP20, MB-101, Blueprint, Apex, and P7TW (this was back in May) and I gotta say, they were all great but the 620 MB and MP20 really separated themselves from the pack for me. I really found that the most important thing was shaft (surprisingly to me, Modus 105X). It was my first time having a formal fitting, and I was shocked. I'd been playing S300 and X100's my whole life. Once I had the right shaft in these bad boys (MP20 and 620 MB), it was like heaven on earth. Seriously, go get properly fitted y'all! I went with the Titleist because I play TP-5's which make them feel soft enough (like you said) while still feeling solid and crisp, but the MP20 got a little mushy for me with the softer ball. They had negligible difference in numbers on the Trackman. Also, I found the polished finish of the MP20 a bit distracting. Not gonna lie, I was surprised, because I've always been a Mizzy fan-boy, but these 620 MBs are gonna be in my bag for a long time. Get properly fitted y'all. I can't emphasize that enough, regardless of the size of the cavity on your irons. I always thought I was playing the correct equipment, but the second I had a shaft that has a weight and flex points that complement my swing, I realized that I had never actually felt what an effortless, natural swing feels like. It made golf that much more fun! Alright my rambling is done. Love your channel, I'm a numbers nerd and have watched pretty much every video. I get so excited whenever y'all release a new one. Keep em coming!
Craig Berry so easy to swing easy and natural but can get after one if I need to with em. Agreed, total weight is most important, but I think how it loads is around as important. I love how these shafts load up
@@georgekyriazi its difficult for me because I play longer length so for example when I put AMT S300 in depending on the manufacturers head weight the club can feel silly heavy. Modus at 112g is nice, the PXI are similar weight and nice. Curious what SS are u with a 7 or 6 iron?
I'm with you George. I got a fitting, and the 620 MB stood out to me as well. The MP-20s are a close 2nd, but I felt even on slight miss hits I wasn't losing much yardage. Plus I like the leading edge.
I have been playing the (two generations back) Mizuno MP4s with a Nippon 1150 GH shaft in Regular flex for about 4 seasons now...that's like 340 rounds. I just adore the way that shaft loads up. In a recent fitting I found the Modus 120 (actually in Stiff flex) with the MP20s were the match for me. I really need to get in and getta TXG iron fitting, as the groves on my existing set are pretty much gonzo and I would like to suss out my options for the optimal shaft.
I used blades for over 40 years up until 2018 when age (in my 60s) and injury (back/hip) forced a switch so I could keep some of the distance (now TM P770s with Recoil 780 F4). I love blades for their work-ability and my last set of MIzuno MPs were buttery soft.
Question for txg, with how much testing you guys do is there any thought to creating a data base of data? I think having a database or spreadsheet of things like strike point, spin, efficiency , etc would be useful from an equipment analytic point of view. I don't know how easy GC quads exports the data but I guess it can be done by hand into an excel sheet? I can't think of anyone who does analytics on equipment and publishes it, I presume the manufacturers have the data but they won't ever publish it. S3 does it for shafts which is really useful to get past the marketing. For example here it would be interesting to correlate strike location, efficiency , and spin. Kind of an indirect measurement of cg locations and forgiveness.
Now I gotta use my phone to watch this cause my iPad, tv and com have us open coverage on it. Lol what a great morning!!! Can y’all do a best players distance irons??? I need that in my life. My favorite channel on TH-cam and maybe all types of media
Moved to blades a couple of years ago when I played in the 90's. It actually helped me make better contact and am now shooting in the low 80's. Practice does help, but these irons are fantastic for shot shaping!
Katsuhiro Miura says the sweet spot on Miura irons is toward the heel. The machine might not have misread the strike on the first shot with the 901s. It was heel side and sounded perfect.
As a guy who has combo'd Miura blades with Miura cavity backs for the last 3 years I couldn't even wait to see the video before I had to comment that I have been waiting forever to see you guys review Miura. Well done guys!
@Robert Bogdan They have done Miura stuff before...go to the TXG Channel Pagey and click Videos and just search (Magnifying Glass Icon) for Miura. There has to be at least half a dozen videos with Miura irons in there, if not more.
I’ve never felt so much draw toward a set of blades like the titleist 620 mb. I own a set of Miura mb 101s and they are incredible. To own miuras and still be envious of the 620 is a huge compliment to titleist for making such a good looking club! Great video Matt and Ian. Would love to see Matt play a round with those 620 MBs. I know he hit them super well when out in California when they were released.
This was my Dream Video! A lefty (like me) testing all blades. Was the Taylormade standard deviation on distance really 0? that's insanely consistent, no? which one had the best dispersion for Matty Boy? Again, GREAT video IMHO
This is the golf TH-cam channel I didn't know I was looking for. Such a great commentary. You guys work great together. Happy with this find and subscription.
I recently started watching your videos and I really enjoy how thorough and in depth you go with all the numbers to back it up. Watching some of your older videos it looks like Matt’s swing has really improved. I’m curious to know how often you practice and how often you play. Maybe you can do a video outlining your practice sessions?
I envy u. I have been spending a lot of family resources in lessons for me and my wife. I bought a practice mat and net. Also invested in prov1x for the season. However, $1300 bucks for a set of mp20s r a budget buster for me. I hope u r hitting them well and taking care of them.
I’m a lefty and just ordered the SEL’s so going back and watching these again for that confirmation again too, even though I know they’ll be incredible!
Beautiful clubs! I would love to see a video with Ian's pick for a comparison in each category. Maybe, throw the Hogan Icons into the mix. Although, you gave those away and not to me. :(
I bought the MP-5s back in 2016 and I remember trying the Titleist 716 MB and they were tiny and about half a club shorter than the Mizuno's. Probably the most intimidating iron I've ever hit. Glad to see they've made some changes.
Great comparison for these blades. I’ve tried blades but I just don’t hit them pure enough. They look beautiful. In this era of soooooo many quality choices, it’s great but difficult to say one is better than the other. Great job guys. Looking forward to the next. 👍👍
Great vid as always guys. I appreciate y’all taking the feedback and including how the clubs look at address, shows y’all are paying attention to the viewers. Would love to see a comparison vid of the p7mb vs the p7tw
I just recently got Mizuno MP 20 SEL. Man, the good hit feels really good but the bad hits vibrating my hands like crazy. It's almost like a punishment if I don't hit it correctly lol. I upgraded from my Taylormade M2 which was also really good. I just need something more workable and begin to control ball flights the way I want it. Mizuno definitely looks stunning in the bag. I guess I need more time to master this bad boy.
I currently play MP-20, I appreciate the feedback even for less well struck shots... They do feel awesome when struck well - worth some of the lesser shots 🤔😀
All of them are stunning irons for sure. Fortunately looking at them is where my love affair with blades ends. Every once in a while when I catch my MP18SC 9 iron a little high in the the toe I thank myself for not going with my first instinct of “yeah...I could play blades 8-PW.” 😂. All of the “why didn’t you test....” comments remind me of the tongue lashing you guys took a couple years ago when you left Mizuno out of the first “best players cavity” test! 😉
I’m off to my local fitter on Monday night to hit the P7MB, MP20 & 620MB’s. Although I’ve always gravitated towards titleist as a brand (use SM8 Wedges, have the 917D2 driver, and currently game 716 AP2’s) I do have a sneaky feeling I’ll be waiting for a Mizuno box to arrive at my door in a few weeks.
A video on various blade sweet spots would be interesting. After watching Adventures In Gof where Erik Anders Lang visits the Miura factory, he gets told the sweet spot (perhaps just in their wedges?) was towards the heel. Do different brands of blades have different sizes and locations of sweet spots?
Sad you didn’t put in the Wilson Staff Models in here 😔 as a lefty, blades are pretty tricky (up until the last few years to be fair!) but when Wilson launched the Models in lefty I was very happy! Grabbed a set and they were so much better than my Apex MB that I had in the bag up until then
I was fitted into the 620MB 4-PW irons in the spring. I've hit all of these (except the T MB7s) and felt similar results. The MB-20s are really good irons and they feel a bit softer that the 620s, but the slight firmness of the Titleist make them feel like they have a bit more punching power. Miura hit well to but I didn't like the look. Srixon Z Forged felt good as well, but a little chunky. Another big note is the grinding on the leading edge feels really good on the Titleist 620MB's. They really melt through the turf.
The strike was a bit higher, could possibly be the reason its going further if the CG is just a bit lower than with the other club. Similar to when you tee up an iron and get the CG slightly below the ball and you get that lower spin higher launching shot.
Most people who haven’t played them because they’re “scared”, don’t understand how much feedback helps ball striking - I can hit a cavity back all day and will struggle to tell you where I hit it if it’s a miss.
94jettameowpsst just a thin line between responsiveness and forgiveness with blades which why I think most are scared of blades. Combo set is great way to introduce players to a blade
94jettameowpsst pure blades aren’t even being played by tour pros usually. They are made and market for those vanity players who think it will improve their ball striking
dubnessIII there’s a lot more to golf than score.. tour players livelihood depends on their score so they want forgiveness, I personally don’t really care if I’d save 3-4 strokes from using cavity’s, the craftsmanship and feel of a good shot with a blade is where I derive my enjoyment in golf and a pured blade feeling never gets old
dubnessIII you’re missing the point regarding not being on tour.. secondly, get good at hitting them and then switch to a cb and see how much better you hit the ball, consistently I guess is the better word. I game a 3i that’s a cb, it has zero feel aside from a slight trampoline effect when struck well.
Having coffee these would be good for me to butter my toast LOL. Most of us love to dream about these blades. Great stuff well done fellas. Cheers from NorCal
Are the Miura s the same spec as the 101 s but just in left handed? You mentioned the Taylormade digging a bit. I’m pretty steep take big divots would I be better with something with a pre worn leading edge or something like the Taylormade?
Great video, as always fellas. I really appreciate the level of detail and analysis you guys provide in your testing; it is truly a breath of fresh air to a fellow analytic. One question, if I may: I have noticed that Matt's swing path has seemed to be moving a little more from the inside in recent weeks, but was there anything in particular about the Titleist and Miura irons that would cause him to be swinging 1-1.5 degrees more from the inside? You mentioned the Miura was considerably heavier than the standard for the segment: was the Titleist also a bit heavier than the others? Is that what's in play here or is it something else?
Titliest 620 performed better than I expected. But yes they're forgings are fairly harsh feeling compared to others. I was also surprised to see the mizuno ballspeed even lower than the TM. In my experience TM blades are almost always a tad bit shorter than other blades for some reason. The 35 degree loft is part of it but so is titliest
Great comparison of the best lefty players irons. There might be a couple more out there, but not as common. I bought the MP20 and had buyers remorse when I noticed P7MB came out in left. After test I dont feel so bad, lol.
It's interesting how Matty Boy rated the Miura's 3 out of 4 when it was apparent they out-performed the others. From an optics and data standpoint he couldn't find anything wrong with the Miura's other than they were too soft, too straight and too long.. I'll be switching from my Baby Blades to the Tournament Blade real soon.. Nice video guys
I went mp20 pw to 7 and 6,5 in hmb but the biggest benefit is there is no uplift in shaft cost. I really liked the Recoil shaft and I found these clubs very forgiving compared to the TP18s I played with 25 yrs ago and that now sit in my garage. They come out occasionally to scare off the youngsters ... a 3 iron butter knife gives a bit of perspective. But Mizuno probably have got this market covered for value as well on the shaft policy.. if you did a cost analysis, it might highlight some big differences.
Just wondering if you have done a video on fitting club lofts to optimize carry distance. As you know there are clubs that have 6 degrees of loft between clubs which is not good for a golfer with higher swing speeds and just the opposite for a slower swing speed. I've had a number of people coming to me that have gotten clubs off the rack without any fitting. Because you are a fitting guru this maybe a good topic to do a video on.
Love your channel, very disappointed that you didn't have the W/S Staff Model blades. W/S consistently make the best as well as affordable blades. Most tour pros using cavities these days, but the ones that play blades W/S has the most share. perfect clubs.
I have Miura MB 5002s and they are the bees knees. The thing about blades is that they force you to hit the center or take a massive penalty, and that is why my play improved more than anything.
Nice video guys would have like to have seen the Wilson's in as well also any chance of a review on the wilson staff utility iron or a hollow head driving iron bracket test
Very interesting side by side comparison. Thanks! It seems that low impact reduced spin and high impact increased spin. But isn't that contrary to the vertical gear effect? Or is it different from irons to drivers?
I'm wondering if you played a good amount of time with each club would you be saying the same findings. Also would you swing improve more because there's more feedback..
The reason I like blades is just based on the fact that they have little to no offset most times. If they made nice cavity back irons that had no offset, I'd love them. Tour heads are hard to find though.
P7MB is basically a Srixon Z945 with a Taylormade logo .not really new technology but of course taking from the detailed clublakers in Japan. I played the Z945 still a fantastic iron thats soft like butter. Now playing the mizuno pro 120 Japan edition. And like Ian side ball should melt in the iron, for that hands down Mizuno in my book is the hot knife.
Changing balls definitely goes to show how important it is to find a ball you like and get properly fit for clubs with that ball, ball changes the perception of how the club feels.
i'm not sure how common knowledge this is, but the makers of muira actually put the sweet spot more towards the heel than any other brand, which is why they might have turned and had lower spin on most of the shots. what felt like a middled strike is actually slightly toe in terms of what the club is designed to do.
Miura all day long. I have mp20s and like them but Miura look 😍. Don’t know if it’s price that makes me think they look amazing. Wonder if I d still think they looked great at $150 a club
I'm looking to go at pins with irons, and by far, missing short is safer than going long, which is what you get with blades, if you hit it well, you will hit your number, poor, it will be short. Some clubs that are more forgiving, if it hit it too well, I may fly the green, which can be very bad, both for my score and mentality - score, can easily add +2 to strokes, mentality, I don't want to have it in my mind, that if I make a good swing & contact, it could actually hurt my score and I may lose a ball, I've done this before.
Interesting that Jack & Tiger prefer longer blades (both Miura ex-players and Jack's new set with them), and that is the type of Blade they now produce as their spec. I was a Taylormade C300 Cavity Player (the Lehman Miura clubs) and also like the longer blade - just far less intimidating. I also like the built-in 3-yard draw - as it is easy to play a hold off fade when you want it. Miura's are my easy pick - I actually tried to get their Nicklaus release and missed out.
Are the Wilson Staff Model blades more forgiving for a blade as I have read? I saw a RH set and the blade looked a bit larger vs TM PMB. No where to demo a LH club. Beautiful iron.
it would be interesting to add the direct to consumer blades to this comparison. like Matt said, just get what you like and hit the best, regardless of reason.
Bonanza....See I knew Mr Fraser has been thinking of investing in a TXG Ponderosa for us. I am either old or starting to catch onto the Professor’s hints. 👍
I guess there aren’t too many lefty sets to test? Might be worth seeing Ian try a bigger range, it’s all about dispersion and feel and control with blades. Shot shaping is easy, but boy you know when you hit a bad one on a frosty morning! 🥶😱😰great piece but needs a bigger field and outdoor to get the turf interaction and play with some shapes! 👍
I always wanted to play blades but was told I’m not good enough (15 handicap). Finally decided to try some used Titleist 690 mb’s and my first round with them I beat my personal best by 5 strokes and had zero double bogies. Never let anyone tell you what you “should” be playing: As Matt said, if you hit them well and you like how they look/feel, they’re meant for you
same here. went from game improvement irons to titleist 620s and dropped 7 stokes immediately
This might be complete bullshit but I feel like when you play blades your brain knows that there is less margin for error so you intern make better swings which makes better strikes and better scores
@@ericgomez6425 I don't think that's bullshit whatsoever
Ditto
Same man. I’m a 13 and play blades. We play what we want man. Others opinions means about zero.
I play the 620 MB and I absolutely love them. I tried out the MP20, MB-101, Blueprint, Apex, and P7TW (this was back in May) and I gotta say, they were all great but the 620 MB and MP20 really separated themselves from the pack for me.
I really found that the most important thing was shaft (surprisingly to me, Modus 105X). It was my first time having a formal fitting, and I was shocked. I'd been playing S300 and X100's my whole life. Once I had the right shaft in these bad boys (MP20 and 620 MB), it was like heaven on earth. Seriously, go get properly fitted y'all!
I went with the Titleist because I play TP-5's which make them feel soft enough (like you said) while still feeling solid and crisp, but the MP20 got a little mushy for me with the softer ball. They had negligible difference in numbers on the Trackman. Also, I found the polished finish of the MP20 a bit distracting. Not gonna lie, I was surprised, because I've always been a Mizzy fan-boy, but these 620 MBs are gonna be in my bag for a long time.
Get properly fitted y'all. I can't emphasize that enough, regardless of the size of the cavity on your irons. I always thought I was playing the correct equipment, but the second I had a shaft that has a weight and flex points that complement my swing, I realized that I had never actually felt what an effortless, natural swing feels like. It made golf that much more fun!
Alright my rambling is done. Love your channel, I'm a numbers nerd and have watched pretty much every video. I get so excited whenever y'all release a new one. Keep em coming!
I'm a modus 105 X man myself. I find total weight is the most important thing in an iron. Not overly difficult to load either.
Craig Berry so easy to swing easy and natural but can get after one if I need to with em. Agreed, total weight is most important, but I think how it loads is around as important. I love how these shafts load up
@@georgekyriazi its difficult for me because I play longer length so for example when I put AMT S300 in depending on the manufacturers head weight the club can feel silly heavy. Modus at 112g is nice, the PXI are similar weight and nice. Curious what SS are u with a 7 or 6 iron?
I'm with you George. I got a fitting, and the 620 MB stood out to me as well. The MP-20s are a close 2nd, but I felt even on slight miss hits I wasn't losing much yardage. Plus I like the leading edge.
I have been playing the (two generations back) Mizuno MP4s with a Nippon 1150 GH shaft in Regular flex for about 4 seasons now...that's like 340 rounds. I just adore the way that shaft loads up. In a recent fitting I found the Modus 120 (actually in Stiff flex) with the MP20s were the match for me. I really need to get in and getta TXG iron fitting, as the groves on my existing set are pretty much gonzo and I would like to suss out my options for the optimal shaft.
I used blades for over 40 years up until 2018 when age (in my 60s) and injury (back/hip) forced a switch so I could keep some of the distance (now TM P770s with Recoil 780 F4). I love blades for their work-ability and my last set of MIzuno MPs were buttery soft.
Question for txg, with how much testing you guys do is there any thought to creating a data base of data? I think having a database or spreadsheet of things like strike point, spin, efficiency , etc would be useful from an equipment analytic point of view. I don't know how easy GC quads exports the data but I guess it can be done by hand into an excel sheet? I can't think of anyone who does analytics on equipment and publishes it, I presume the manufacturers have the data but they won't ever publish it. S3 does it for shafts which is really useful to get past the marketing.
For example here it would be interesting to correlate strike location, efficiency , and spin. Kind of an indirect measurement of cg locations and forgiveness.
Now I gotta use my phone to watch this cause my iPad, tv and com have us open coverage on it. Lol what a great morning!!! Can y’all do a best players distance irons??? I need that in my life. My favorite channel on TH-cam and maybe all types of media
Moved to blades a couple of years ago when I played in the 90's. It actually helped me make better contact and am now shooting in the low 80's. Practice does help, but these irons are fantastic for shot shaping!
Katsuhiro Miura says the sweet spot on Miura irons is toward the heel. The machine might not have misread the strike on the first shot with the 901s. It was heel side and sounded perfect.
"It's a blade bonanza!"
Love the idea for this series!
You’ve just got to love this channel ❤️ best TH-cam channel going 👍🏻
Absolutely! The TXG boys just rip 'em up.
As a guy who has combo'd Miura blades with Miura cavity backs for the last 3 years I couldn't even wait to see the video before I had to comment that I have been waiting forever to see you guys review Miura. Well done guys!
@Robert Bogdan They have done Miura stuff before...go to the TXG Channel Pagey and click Videos and just search (Magnifying Glass Icon) for Miura. There has to be at least half a dozen videos with Miura irons in there, if not more.
I’ve never felt so much draw toward a set of blades like the titleist 620 mb. I own a set of Miura mb 101s and they are incredible. To own miuras and still be envious of the 620 is a huge compliment to titleist for making such a good looking club! Great video Matt and Ian. Would love to see Matt play a round with those 620 MBs. I know he hit them super well when out in California when they were released.
This was my Dream Video! A lefty (like me) testing all blades. Was the Taylormade standard deviation on distance really 0? that's insanely consistent, no? which one had the best dispersion for Matty Boy? Again, GREAT video IMHO
This is the golf TH-cam channel I didn't know I was looking for. Such a great commentary. You guys work great together. Happy with this find and subscription.
I recently started watching your videos and I really enjoy how thorough and in depth you go with all the numbers to back it up.
Watching some of your older videos it looks like Matt’s swing has really improved. I’m curious to know how often you practice and how often you play. Maybe you can do a video outlining your practice sessions?
My handicap says no, but god damn they are so beautiful. Played blades for the better part of the last 15yrs.
I just can’t get over how good the 921 Tours are.. kept the feel and shape I love in my 919 tours but they got even better looking
I feel even better about my MP-20s now :) loved em already but thanks for the third party validation boys!
Just ordered some MP20’s yesterday so thank you for giving me confirmation bias Matt 😂😂😂
I envy u. I have been spending a lot of family resources in lessons for me and my wife. I bought a practice mat and net. Also invested in prov1x for the season. However, $1300 bucks for a set of mp20s r a budget buster for me. I hope u r hitting them well and taking care of them.
I’m a lefty and just ordered the SEL’s so going back and watching these again for that confirmation again too, even though I know they’ll be incredible!
Beautiful clubs! I would love to see a video with Ian's pick for a comparison in each category. Maybe, throw the Hogan Icons into the mix. Although, you gave those away and not to me. :(
Gotta include the Blueprints, Wilson's and the TW blades. Awesome video though guys, the best golf equipment channel on TH-cam nowadays for sure!
Seems a few people have mentioned this, but it would definitely be nice to see the Wilson Staff Model Blades in any blade comparison . . .
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I bought the MP-5s back in 2016 and I remember trying the Titleist 716 MB and they were tiny and about half a club shorter than the Mizuno's. Probably the most intimidating iron I've ever hit. Glad to see they've made some changes.
Great comparison for these blades. I’ve tried blades but I just don’t hit them pure enough. They look beautiful. In this era of soooooo many quality choices, it’s great but difficult to say one is better than the other. Great job guys. Looking forward to the next. 👍👍
P7MB to 6 and MC down the rest for me. Going to be next years set!
Same here, P7MB P-6 iron, combo with P7MC 5-3 iron
Great vid as always guys. I appreciate y’all taking the feedback and including how the clubs look at address, shows y’all are paying attention to the viewers. Would love to see a comparison vid of the p7mb vs the p7tw
Wilson Staff Model Blades look the best to me
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Lefty?
Yes, lefty. Matty boy has hit them on a previous TXG video
Chris Caruso 100% agree. But Wilson aren’t the. ‘In’ manufacturer
Those are nice as well, my 2 tops choices are the Cobra MB and the Titleist 620 MB.
I just recently got Mizuno MP 20 SEL. Man, the good hit feels really good but the bad hits vibrating my hands like crazy. It's almost like a punishment if I don't hit it correctly lol. I upgraded from my Taylormade M2 which was also really good. I just need something more workable and begin to control ball flights the way I want it. Mizuno definitely looks stunning in the bag. I guess I need more time to master this bad boy.
I have no business hitting blades, but I'm here watching lol 😂 still going strong with my JPX 825 pros
Matt strikes the ball so well
I currently play MP-20, I appreciate the feedback even for less well struck shots... They do feel awesome when struck well - worth some of the lesser shots 🤔😀
Would love to see a video of MP20 vs. Wilson Staff Model Blade.
I play the Srixon Z forged 5-pw, they look so friendly to the other blades I tested. ⛳
Love the video! 🏌️
I think Srixon clubs are very underated. I have the 965 they are great cant fault them
Please do more best in class! Asap. Im so excited about this new series
Love these kinds of comparos. Great content as usual!
I've played the Cleveland TA1s, Mizuno MP32s and the Hogan FtW blades but can't beat my Srixon Z Forged. Love you guys.
Those MTB X balls are literal rocks. I can't believe you used those in testing.
Thanks for making this video so I can appreciate them from afar! Always tempted to put them in the bag when I see em
Give Matt any club he's banging it out there!! Pure athlete !!! Nice job guys best info out there!!! Ty
Nothing feels like a mizuno
All of them are stunning irons for sure. Fortunately looking at them is where my love affair with blades ends. Every once in a while when I catch my MP18SC 9 iron a little high in the the toe I thank myself for not going with my first instinct of “yeah...I could play blades 8-PW.” 😂.
All of the “why didn’t you test....” comments remind me of the tongue lashing you guys took a couple years ago when you left Mizuno out of the first “best players cavity” test! 😉
Really enjoyed this fellas, great job! 👍
Great video! I love especially when you guys are talking about the blades. Tour level Cavity irons on the next video?
I’m off to my local fitter on Monday night to hit the P7MB, MP20 & 620MB’s. Although I’ve always gravitated towards titleist as a brand (use SM8 Wedges, have the 917D2 driver, and currently game 716 AP2’s) I do have a sneaky feeling I’ll be waiting for a Mizuno box to arrive at my door in a few weeks.
Kudos to you all! Love the discussion and knowledge exchange between you guys. Thanks for sharing.👍🏼
A video on various blade sweet spots would be interesting. After watching Adventures In Gof where Erik Anders Lang visits the Miura factory, he gets told the sweet spot (perhaps just in their wedges?) was towards the heel. Do different brands of blades have different sizes and locations of sweet spots?
That is common among blades in general.
@@lowcodelucas1088 I did not know that.
Great video as always. Will you guys be testing the Srixon zx7 and zx5 irons soon? Really curious to see that review from you guys.
Sad you didn’t put in the Wilson Staff Models in here 😔 as a lefty, blades are pretty tricky (up until the last few years to be fair!) but when Wilson launched the Models in lefty I was very happy! Grabbed a set and they were so much better than my Apex MB that I had in the bag up until then
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I was fitted into the 620MB 4-PW irons in the spring. I've hit all of these (except the T MB7s) and felt similar results. The MB-20s are really good irons and they feel a bit softer that the 620s, but the slight firmness of the Titleist make them feel like they have a bit more punching power. Miura hit well to but I didn't like the look. Srixon Z Forged felt good as well, but a little chunky. Another big note is the grinding on the leading edge feels really good on the Titleist 620MB's. They really melt through the turf.
Loving my P7MB's. Sold the MP20's and havent looked back. Just couldnt get along with them for some reason
The strike was a bit higher, could possibly be the reason its going further if the CG is just a bit lower than with the other club. Similar to when you tee up an iron and get the CG slightly below the ball and you get that lower spin higher launching shot.
Love my MP20’s. I like the feel of bad shots with blades, gives me tons of feedback and pushes me to improve ball striking and consistency
Most people who haven’t played them because they’re “scared”, don’t understand how much feedback helps ball striking - I can hit a cavity back all day and will struggle to tell you where I hit it if it’s a miss.
94jettameowpsst just a thin line between responsiveness and forgiveness with blades which why I think most are scared of blades. Combo set is great way to introduce players to a blade
94jettameowpsst pure blades aren’t even being played by tour pros usually. They are made and market for those vanity players who think it will improve their ball striking
dubnessIII there’s a lot more to golf than score.. tour players livelihood depends on their score so they want forgiveness, I personally don’t really care if I’d save 3-4 strokes from using cavity’s, the craftsmanship and feel of a good shot with a blade is where I derive my enjoyment in golf and a pured blade feeling never gets old
dubnessIII you’re missing the point regarding not being on tour.. secondly, get good at hitting them and then switch to a cb and see how much better you hit the ball, consistently I guess is the better word.
I game a 3i that’s a cb, it has zero feel aside from a slight trampoline effect when struck well.
Having coffee these would be good for me to butter my toast LOL. Most of us love to dream about these blades. Great stuff well done fellas. Cheers from NorCal
I have a T 300- 4 Iron as my driving iron. It's a Rocket Launcher. Depending on the wind conditions, the ball flies 200-245 yards.
Are the Miura s the same spec as the 101 s but just in left handed? You mentioned the Taylormade digging a bit. I’m pretty steep take big divots would I be better with something with a pre worn leading edge or something like the Taylormade?
You guys planning to do another bonanza with Hogan's Icon?
Great video, as always fellas. I really appreciate the level of detail and analysis you guys provide in your testing; it is truly a breath of fresh air to a fellow analytic. One question, if I may: I have noticed that Matt's swing path has seemed to be moving a little more from the inside in recent weeks, but was there anything in particular about the Titleist and Miura irons that would cause him to be swinging 1-1.5 degrees more from the inside? You mentioned the Miura was considerably heavier than the standard for the segment: was the Titleist also a bit heavier than the others? Is that what's in play here or is it something else?
Blades actually give me more confidence because they are harder to play. It lets me know I’m a good player.
Same here haha until I hit a nice thin slice on a cold fall morning, reality hits you hard bro👀😂
Or a crappy player that "thinks" they're good. 🤣
@@Cdawgw the worst haha 🥶
@@scottmcneela3622 I bet pros that play blades don't even hit that percentage but I could be wrong
Titliest 620 performed better than I expected. But yes they're forgings are fairly harsh feeling compared to others. I was also surprised to see the mizuno ballspeed even lower than the TM. In my experience TM blades are almost always a tad bit shorter than other blades for some reason. The 35 degree loft is part of it but so is titliest
Great round-up of clubs I doubt I'll ever have the strike quality to play.
Would love to have seen blueprints and baby blades in there! oh well still a good watch but all preference to the individual.
I bought one miura blade from ebay, i use it at the range for practice and to remind myself my strike if far too terrible to ever buy blades
Great comparison of the best lefty players irons. There might be a couple more out there, but not as common. I bought the MP20 and had buyers remorse when I noticed P7MB came out in left. After test I dont feel so bad, lol.
It's interesting how Matty Boy rated the Miura's 3 out of 4 when it was apparent they out-performed the others. From an optics and data standpoint he couldn't find anything wrong with the Miura's other than they were too soft, too straight and too long.. I'll be switching from my Baby Blades to the Tournament Blade real soon.. Nice video guys
Miura is just better, plain and simple.
I went mp20 pw to 7 and 6,5 in hmb but the biggest benefit is there is no uplift in shaft cost. I really liked the Recoil shaft and I found these clubs very forgiving compared to the TP18s I played with 25 yrs ago and that now sit in my garage. They come out occasionally to scare off the youngsters ... a 3 iron butter knife gives a bit of perspective.
But Mizuno probably have got this market covered for value as well on the shaft policy.. if you did a cost analysis, it might highlight some big differences.
I hope you guys do this same test with Ian! I wonder if he would pick something else? Great video guys
Nice video👌 Be cool to see Matts reflection on the next tier, player cavity backs.
I would love to see you test the new New Level irons, they look really good especially the utility. Great video as always.
Just wondering if you have done a video on fitting club lofts to optimize carry distance. As you know there are clubs that have 6 degrees of loft between clubs which is not good for a golfer with higher swing speeds and just the opposite for a slower swing speed. I've had a number of people coming to me that have gotten clubs off the rack without any fitting. Because you are a fitting guru this maybe a good topic to do a video on.
Honma rose proto is what I own, Honma is amazing and underrated
Really smooth tempo matty. Very nice
Love your channel, very disappointed that you didn't have the W/S Staff Model blades. W/S consistently make the best as well as affordable blades. Most tour pros using cavities these days, but the ones that play blades W/S has the most share. perfect clubs.
Matt: i would prefer the mp20 over the taylormade or the miura..
Me: matty boy my man! 👌🙌
I have Miura MB 5002s and they are the bees knees. The thing about blades is that they force you to hit the center or take a massive penalty, and that is why my play improved more than anything.
This would have a great test if you had included blades like Staff Modell, Z-Forged & BH Icon's as well.
Quality vid fella’s 🏌🏿♂️👍🏽❤️
The std deviations for ball speed, spin, and yardages were pretty ridiculous for the P7-MB. Good strikes Matty!
Nice video guys would have like to have seen the Wilson's in as well also any chance of a review on the wilson staff utility iron or a hollow head driving iron bracket test
Very interesting side by side comparison. Thanks!
It seems that low impact reduced spin and high impact increased spin. But isn't that contrary to the vertical gear effect? Or is it different from irons to drivers?
Combo sets, I still have a set of Maxfli A10s with Rifle Flighted shafts. LOL I must admit they have not seen the light of day in many years.
I'm wondering if you played a good amount of time with each club would you be saying the same findings. Also would you swing improve more because there's more feedback..
The reason I like blades is just based on the fact that they have little to no offset most times. If they made nice cavity back irons that had no offset, I'd love them. Tour heads are hard to find though.
I wish you had the Hogan Icons in this...
Miura is like a power blade... Taylormade is a real ball strikers head. Looks beautiful for all of them!
Could you do a test showing the difference between a "wedge" flex shaft and a normal iron shaft in wedges. Does it affect performance?
P7MB is basically a Srixon Z945 with a Taylormade logo .not really new technology but of course taking from the detailed clublakers in Japan. I played the Z945 still a fantastic iron thats soft like butter. Now playing the mizuno pro 120 Japan edition. And like Ian side ball should melt in the iron, for that hands down Mizuno in my book is the hot knife.
Great video and great video idea.
Changing balls definitely goes to show how important it is to find a ball you like and get properly fit for clubs with that ball, ball changes the perception of how the club feels.
i'm not sure how common knowledge this is, but the makers of muira actually put the sweet spot more towards the heel than any other brand, which is why they might have turned and had lower spin on most of the shots. what felt like a middled strike is actually slightly toe in terms of what the club is designed to do.
I have the mp-20s. Love em
Miura all day long. I have mp20s and like them but Miura look 😍. Don’t know if it’s price that makes me think they look amazing. Wonder if I d still think they looked great at $150 a club
I'm looking to go at pins with irons, and by far, missing short is safer than going long, which is what you get with blades, if you hit it well, you will hit your number, poor, it will be short. Some clubs that are more forgiving, if it hit it too well, I may fly the green, which can be very bad, both for my score and mentality - score, can easily add +2 to strokes, mentality, I don't want to have it in my mind, that if I make a good swing & contact, it could actually hurt my score and I may lose a ball, I've done this before.
Interesting that Jack & Tiger prefer longer blades (both Miura ex-players and Jack's new set with them), and that is the type of Blade they now produce as their spec. I was a Taylormade C300 Cavity Player (the Lehman Miura clubs) and also like the longer blade - just far less intimidating. I also like the built-in 3-yard draw - as it is easy to play a hold off fade when you want it. Miura's are my easy pick - I actually tried to get their Nicklaus release and missed out.
Love it!. MP 20 are awesome...actually I have them😍
Definitely should have more options to consider or at least Part 2 with more.
Are the Wilson Staff Model blades more forgiving for a blade as I have read? I saw a RH set and the blade looked a bit larger vs TM PMB. No where to demo a LH club. Beautiful iron.
How do you fit for 3 blades in a combo set when you only have a 6i? Very interested in that process and how you get to the right club and specs.
it would be interesting to add the direct to consumer blades to this comparison. like Matt said, just get what you like and hit the best, regardless of reason.
Bonanza....See I knew Mr Fraser has been thinking of investing in a TXG Ponderosa for us. I am either old or starting to catch onto the Professor’s hints. 👍
I guess there aren’t too many lefty sets to test? Might be worth seeing Ian try a bigger range, it’s all about dispersion and feel and control with blades. Shot shaping is easy, but boy you know when you hit a bad one on a frosty morning! 🥶😱😰great piece but needs a bigger field and outdoor to get the turf interaction and play with some shapes! 👍
You should have had wilson staff blades irons on here. 1 of the best irons out there.
Great review! I think the choice would come down to personal appearance. They're all beautiful clubs..