When History Gets it Wrong: David Zucchino on the Wilmington Massacre | Amanpour and Company
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- The city of Wilmington, North Carolina once stood out as a vibrant, mixed-race community. That came to a dramatic end in 1898 when white supremacists staged a bloody coup in which the city’s government was overthrown and 60 black men were killed. Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist David Zucchino chronicles it all in his new book, "Wilmington’s Lie." He sits down with Walter Isaacson to talk about the origins of the uprising and its lasting impact.
Originally aired on February 4, 2020.
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We never got a chance to pull myself up by bootstraps every time we had a leg up they cut your legs off
This the one 💯
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Like nearly everyone in this comment section I have lived in Wilmington for 22 years and was NEVER taught this in school or elsewhere. This isn't even just an important local piece of history this is also the only successful Coup in this history of America. Absolutely shameful that this gets hidden from the public or watered down
I've lived in Wilmington for 28 years now and I have only heard of watered-down version of this. I need to get that book and read it
Please do...
Me too I'll have to get this book . I'm from Virgin Island but my son was born here in Wilmington ...
There are older books with more info
Check out "Wilmington on Fire" documentary. Also Karen Hunter and Greg Carr on TH-cam.
@@darleenthompson3803 check out Karen Hunter on TH-cam
You can start change by not calling it a "war". Its like saying mom and dad were in a fist fight when you know mom was totally defenseless against dad's blows.
Fact.
Please don't use the tired gender narratives. Women are seldom helpless. Women initate more domestic violence than men.
Born and raised in the Port City and I was never told/taught about this history. While sitting in the Airport in Wilmington in December of 1998, a white man from the North who taught at UNCW told me about this great atrocity.
This was a massacre (not a riot). I still feel that pain and grief that is has caused me from not knowing whether my grandmother's mother and other relatives that were among those murdered in the swamps/woods or in that town by the Gatling gun(s).
When crimes like this happen, it all explains why too many black families to this day are impoverished, and how they have been uprooted from what moral character they had but are now and clearly DYSFUNCTIONAL which is so hard to shake off. .My entire family is definitely owed reparations!!!
This!!!
By your logic, any white person that is killed by a black person, the white person's great grandchildren should get reparations to? Fair is fair right?
@@davidgoodman6924 What is actually sick is that you are justifying these foul takeovers of these towns. If Blacks had not been murdered and constantly attacked they would have far surpassed the white supremacists and the white supremacists being cowards were fully aware. Being that the white supremacists and those who share their ideology whether they have white skin or not are cowards they can only resort to violence because they are savages.
@@davidgoodman6924 Why did some Jews get reparations from the Holocaust and there are still organizations in place today to help Holocaust survivors? Only when the victims are Blacks reparations are not due but everyone else is entitled to reparations, which sounds really fair right?
@@davidgoodman6924 What about Jews during the Holocaust that sold out other Jews? That did not stop Jews from getting reparations. What about Jews that took part in the African slave trade? What about white on white crime? Also many people argue that African chiefs were tricked because the European concept of slavery and the African concept of slavery were different.
Rosewood, Black Wall Street,Wilmington I wonder how many more
There are so many, many, many more of these cities overthrown that got pushed under the rug, never to be discussed. With a little patience and research we can find out and expose the wrongs that have occurred.
Just look up Red Summer 1919 where they murdered and burned more than three dozen cities!
My family is from Wilmington NC and I am sicken still to this day. I believe my Grandmother's mother was among those murdered on that wretched day November 10, 1898.
@@dirkdillary4925 Thanks for the reminder of Red Summer 1919 which is among so many many, many of these injustices that kept occurring over and over again that some refer to as the United Snakes of AmeriKKKa. Wrong is wrong and right is right. Wilmington NC did not receive justice to this day and there is blood that has to be avenged.
The phrase of "liberty and justice for all" sounds like the biggest joke of all times.
@@deowil1 You are welcome for the reminder! ✊🏿
Red Shirts...........red hats
Exactly when they say we want only legal votes counted, they mean only white votes are legal
Wow u guys are right in opposite world lol. Look at what the dems did in Wilmington. The dems seperated Populists and reps by spreading racist hate so they could retain power which lasted for the next 100 yrs. They got this power off of a coup where after their dem racist tactics didnt kick out all the reps/populistthey wanted, they killed the rest and threaten the municipality. The dems tactics haven't changed. They still use race to divide and conquer. And you ppl have the balls to compare that to Reps!? Look at your party! Its always been your party. The party of slavery, jimcrow laws, lynching, and coups. The party responsible for the Wilmington insurrection is the dems, you idiots! And again the dems push their racist ideology by telling you black ppl are inferior, and you tools eat it up.
@@aikidoka00 stop the dems of that day are like the Republicans of today in the 1960's it flipped again your acting like the same democrats of today were exactly same back then no you can't go back 150 years put it like this you would've been a Democrat back then as simple as that....
@@johnlea29 oh Im sorry are reps exploiting blacks for their own political gain? No thats Dems..its always been Dems
@@aikidoka00 they do that on both sides but don't act like Republicans back in 1800's are the same ones now it flipped in the 60's and many blacks were forced to walk away because all they wanted was some respect that would be right after my grandfather came back from Korean War he went to steelmill worked and raised his family and here I am working in a steelmill but I believe you have to explain real history there was a time were blacks were loved and became office holders look at Wilmington 1898 its sad what they did to those people probably did whatever they wanted to smashing babies heads and laughing you gotta tell the truth it wasn't about cutting down cherry trees...
They never want black people to have anything! Some of this history was passed down in my family as “ They burned it down because they weren’t having it anymore.” I’m so interested in finding out the details and sharing it with my family.
If you haven't done so already. There is a documentary on Amazon titled "Wilmington on fire" it's very informative. If you have any decedents of Wilmington New Hanover NC. Great Grandparents and the like...they may be able to help you as well. ✌🏾
@Mansa Mussa 🍀
We had these cities built before whites came to America. The immigrant who lived in trailers did this to us all over the country
I live here and did not know about this . 😤
Of course, it's not your fault... They keep this kind of shit burried man.
@@gnomeking6568 100% they do try... I will not allow myself to be intimidated or manipulated outta voting.
Just like the rest of us.
Imagine the trauma. The survivors of these massacres rarely speak about it.
Bro downtown
I went to school in NC public schools from 1st grade to 12th. Why was I never taught this? This is what they should be teaching us! Not making us memorize speeches by MLK or Frederick Douglas.
We should have been taught this along with other Black History facts.
Well, You could have been working as a child and not had the blessing of going to school at all! What have you contributed to society that gives you any right to demand what teachers should or should not have taught you.
They teach you what they want you to know. By teaching you selected things and hiding other things or "massaging" the truth, they can control your thoughts, feelings and actions. If they taught you this and other things, then you might not act in their best interest. You would start to question, wonder and maybe even.... act.
@@shawnaweesner3759 this is the stupidest comment I've ever read
I read about Bacons Rebellion and was amazed that it’s not taught in schools. However, teaching such things would open poor whites eyes to see who their real enemy is. Hint: it ain’t people of color.
Reconciliation or not, these historic heinous acts have led to today's 1. Wealth disparity, 2. Policing disparity, 3. Housing disparities, 4. Health disparities, and 5. Educational disparities!
Had no idea about this local piece of history. Very interesting thank you
It’s a national piece of history. If you think about it, the roles of the parties have reversed, today. And the same thing is going on. When one party wants to prevent people from voting, and takes power by preventing people from voting, history is repeating itself. And on a national level. 1898, meet 2012, 2016 and 2020. (P.S. I’m a native North Carolinian.) And oh, also. The white supremacy move,ent was funded by the “Secret Nine”. Nine rich guys who overturned an election and funded the whole thing. Frankly, you can’t make this shit up, eh?
you dont know it because it was hidden from history and the library's would not even release info about it im not sure what year it was released i think 1997
There are a lot more pieces of history that they do not teach or even acknowledge it has been subsequently whitewashed in HIs-Story. The would burn houses down and kill to destroy evidence. Many incidence were hardly publicized because of racism. Wilmington was a city that both black and white were living without conflict. The south was so racist and people want us to forget about the past? HELL NO! We did not do it, they did. America enslaved then oppressed people that were peaceful until you brought violence in our communities.
Now you expected today to be peaceful and wait until America owns its actions and stop lying and whitewashing its insidious history. "WE WILL NOT STAND DOWN AGAINST OPPRESSION THEN AND NOW"!
MARK LAWRENCE
I'm going to have to create a post, that REALLY TAKES THIS TO THE ROOT...
I'll be right back.... and hope you will as well...
@@marklawrence6176 BUT IN THE MEANTIME, MR MARK,...
STOP SAYING "AMERICA"... as it is most certainly NOT AMERICA causing all of this chaos and injustice...
----IT IS THE FEW----
-THE POWERS THAT BE-
---IT'S THE CORRUPT---
IT'S OUR GOVERNMENT❗️❗️❗️
Still happening today 2020.
Yep nothing's changed from that.
Democrats are still segregating us
You know it! SMH JESUS CHRIST
And now 2021 thanks to MAGA mob
@@blastrevino770 Did you happen to catch the part where he mentions those two parties switched?
Cant just say, "let's heal and move on" this has to be reconciled through reparations and restitution and it will be. Just not how we think its gonna happen.
So every white person that has been murdered by a black get reparations to?
@@davidgoodman6924 You obviously do not understand the gravity of these massacre's nor do you care. If you have the ability to do so, please go and find an incident of this magnitute that was committed by a group of armed black men. This acts are not simply murders, they are mass killings of innocent black men and women who wanted nothing but simply a normal life.
@@johnwilson45 Then name those mass killings. Lets talk about who commits the majority of violent crimes in the US now. Whoops
@@davidgoodman6924 A black person who murdered a white person is a crime. What occurred in the massacres of black citizens was white supremacists aided by the government to persecute and annihilate black citizens with murder and deprivation of human rights, this was no isolated crime.
They spit in our faces daily but god will bring
what year did the libraries release this to the public earliest i can find was 1997
There are still lies being told between 1865 and 1877 Blacks held over 1500 offices and positions in city, state and Federal Government in the U.S.
Make Wilmington great again...The city of Wilmington owes a lot to the descendants of the people affected...
Born and raised there and was never told about this history. While sitting in the Airport in Wilmington in December of 1998, a white man from the North who taught at UNCW told me about this great atrocity.
This massacre (not a riot) caused me a lot of pain, not knowing whether my grandmother's mother and other relative were among those murdered in those swamps or in that town by the Gatling gun(s). My entire family is definitely owed reparations.
@@deowil1 that man was not "white", he was Caucasian...lets make it a habit to call them what they are....white is a color and they are not white....✊🏽
@@jaybrown3341 PWOC people without color. Is what I've taken to calling them.
Remi, I like that! We call y'all "D.A.N.".
My mother family roots are more than 10 generations this story was never told. Wow
I think it'll be better when the Most High exacts his vengeance against Europeans who think they are free from this racial hatred.
There is no "most high" you dillussional fool! It's entirely up to US!
Don't forget the African Chieftains & Muslim-Arabic traders who sold Africans into slavery.
I'd certainly not expect white supremacists to join with the leftists, but that in no wise means conservatives want them either! There is 1 thing racists & marxists do have in common. Ala Lenin, they think we're all "useful idiots."
@@thegypsyman9043 is that supposed to be a defense?
@@bobbymoore8 Not so much a defense, just fact. Until we can handle that nothing will ever change. Does injustice, prejudice, & discrimination still exist in 21st century USA? Of course it does, but bitterness, hostility, & a constant "victim" mentality only keeps the same old tired song & dance playing! Sadly, too many of our black men/women are still their own worst enemy.
I always wanted to know more about black history growing up in nc. They talked about everything else but black people. And they NEVER talked about this.
And I grew up 40 minutes from this. I heard through word of mouth but not the specifics. Shame on the them.
Black history & civil rights ARE American history with roots going back before there even was a USA! It needs to be acknowledged & taught year round, not just 1 month out of 12.
Check out "Wilmington on Fire"
A well made documentary from someone Black living in Wilmington.
Thank you 👍
Just watched part 2 trailer followed by discussion with film maker and participants from the film. This history would not have been widely known if not for film maker Chris Everett 2015 documentary film Wilmington on fire.
January 6th, 2021. History just repeated itself.
It was attempted but did not succeed. Now we know how it happens now we know what needs to be done because we can learn from the past to create a different future.
Continue to fight for a unified legacy.
Everything was too close: the attempted coup, GA election, the general election... It's like getting biopsy results, right? Now we see the extent of disease and can work intentionally on the remedy.
Your guess as to which racist party caused this slaughter, and coup d’état will say a lot about you.
All those blacks lynched on that day 😞
Far as I'm concerned every insurrectionist committed an act of treason and they should all be hung
It's about 1898 but it's really about today!!!! 🤔👀😉 Message pick it up ✌️
We haven't reached anything still 2020
no shit
So TRUE!
Seriously neither did I and this is not the only time this happend as I am learning...I am very thankful for this recounting...seriously I was never taught any of this history in school or life...thank you for the presentation...this helps me to understand my country's actual racist past and the anger and frustration from our minorities a bit better thank you again no matter how sad and disgusting this is
And to add... how messed up our system is right now
The Kenans were involved on this. Yep the same Kenans. The are on UNC Chapel Hill buildings and there football field. That is a fact.
Source? Or just or opinion? List the credible sources and which Kenans exactly. Hmmm??
Thanks PBS for shedding light on this. McKinley turning a blind eye is disappointing. Surprised no one has told this story either in a movie or mini series. North Carolina still feels the affect of this coup 120 years later.
There’s a documentary on it called Wilmington on Fire. You can probably access it through TH-cam
Wow. Red shirts and Red Hats. This is the same thing that was going on during Trumps campaign. Almost verbatim. See, History unchecked will repeat itself.
This needs to be taught in All public schools in fact its said that 100s of African Americans were throw in the cape fear river I believe A LOT more lives were lost, extremely sad and the actual facts are it's still bad here in New Hanover county, I have only lived in Wilmington since September and Its a beautiful town but I hope that this is a lesson of hate and an outline on what can happen I PRAY ALL PEOPLE PULL TOGETHER AND FLUSH OUT THE HATE, Its LONG over due!!! Black lives Matter, ONE HUMANITY!!!!
History is repeating itself again !
Red shirts Red hats .. SAME BULLSHIT
Same thing happened just now January 6th 2021
What frightens me about today’s Wilmington is the gross “whitewashing” and colorism among immigrants. It boggles my mind when I saw a few Honduran immigrants dye their hair blond. It looks ridiculous, especially when you grow that crap out....
It happened in a lot more cities and states!
Allot Of Cities and State This Has Happened correct
I need this book
A direct Replica of what had taken place Wednesday 6 January year 2021. Exact carbon copy!!! History repeats itself.
This today's MAGA.red shirts turned into red hats.
Watch when white supremacists overthrew a government
No it’s still the DEMONcrats. They just hide behind ideologies
You can try covering everyone with the same blanket but it still won't be truth! It was white democrat supremacist who protested against blacks in Wilmington! Blacks have continuously been trodden down by white democrats while telling them they're for them!
@@truthseeker1693 sure it's the white Democrats that are against black lives matter,voter suppression and have the full support of white supremacy!
Correction; the "red shirts" were all Democrats as well as racists.
I live in Wilmington and will buy this book!
Similarities with the January 6, 2021 Trump insurrection is astounding. Read this book. A lot of lessons to be learned.
Its crazy because I went there for vacation im black and never knew this history
The TRUTH IS THE FACTUAL STORY
15:30 Edward William Brooke III was an American Republican politician. In 1966, he became the first African American popularly elected to the United States Senate.
Why was this part of HISTORY SWEPT UNDER THE RUG???.This NEEDS TO BE TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS SO WE ALL CANNOT FORGET THIS TRAGEDY IN THE USA 🇺🇸
Thanks
The Marrow of Tradition was a historical fiction account of this event. Worth reading.
This should be taught in schools.
Got tear gassed today. Oh, Wilmington. I’m feeling a certain way about continuing to live here.
Doesnt matter if you stay or leave... Another white person from out of state will move there and take your place.
Why?
@@gnomeking6568
What do You Mean by That 👀 ?
Brushstroke
GOD Bless You For Protesting Human Right issues 🙌🏼 🙏🏼💞👍🏼👏🏼
My husband is working in Wilmington this week. He and his crew, 5 of them stopped in at a restaurant. They were asked if they had reservations (which they did not) and was told it would be awhile. While waiting, many people came in and were seated. When he mentioned that none of those people were asked about reservations, they were asked to wait outside. He called to tell me about what happened. I told him about this story. I looked for a link to send to him and landed here. They stole the land and destroyed black families of course they wouldn't welcome you to eat alongside them.
This sounds sounds so familiar to what is going on now.
I live in New York and it’s a segregated area. I feel very insecure now I see how the whites operate. I feel like a sitting duck.
the year 1910 jack johnson became the first black heavyweight champ of the world. race riots occured throughout the country. in memphis and new orleans. just to name a coulple cities. a 9yr-old louis armstrong(who became a american music icon) recalled having to hide from the mob in the city of new orleans. history always repeats itself.
It’s repeated Because the lessons are not learned
Explains Todd Vasos CEO of Dollar General.
This will never be taught in school
Donald Trump used some of these quotes smh
Trump has promised to make slavery legal again in 2025. HE MUST BE STOPPED’
He also stated that black people built this nation.
If you’ve ever wondered where did the january 6th coup came from, this is were. There are some people willing to burn their country to the ground rather than losing their grip on everything.
Good coverage 👍🏽🙏🏽( the Bible says what’s done in the dark will be shown in the light) 🙏🏽🕊️😔✊🏽 prayers to the Ancestors Ase
Wow. History repeated itself on jan 6th. I never knew this History , I'm going to dive into History today and put the pieces of the puzzle together.
The peices of the puzzle will shock you. You will be stunned and horrified to see the ugly side of what has been allowed to happen to other humans, who were enslaved and hated for the color of their skin when you embark upon your journey into history.
To this day descendants of those same evil doers who got away with murder, rape and sodomy, theft and all other heinous crimes have profited and have done NOTHING to correct their wrongdoing. They have swept it under the rug and now the truth is coming out.
@@deowil1 What about the black African tribal chiefs that sold there own people to the white man, do they get a pass? What about the black American slave owners, do they get a pass? You all seem to forget about that tid bit of history huh.
Wow, who was killed? Oh thats right a unarmed woman. All were unarmed and let into the Capitol building on Jan 6th...hardly a insurrection!! 😂😂😂
@@davidgoodman6924 What about Jews during the Holocaust that sold out other Jews? That did not stop Jews from getting reparations. What about Jews that took part in the African slave trade? What about white on white crime? Also many people argue that African chiefs were tricked because the European concept of slavery and the African concept of slavery were different.
@@davidgoodman6924 So this is hidden history that was never told. But you have history that a white man wrote to say slaves sold in Africa by black Africans. I wonder if he may have left the real criminal out bcause it's his story like this story 🤔 Truth + Wisdom = Peace ✌ 🙏.
The first comment since Feb. 4....
Very interesting?
Exactly
Exactly
The word says "You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies; you anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows."
It is now time for this information and much more to be put into American history. American history is Black history it's the only history that we have with any pride! This country should truly be a different place build on hard work not the backs of slaves or the misery of Mass massacre.... this is not the only place that this kind of thing happened it happened in greenwood, Archer, pine and many other places
@@Professionaltalent
GOD is GOOD💯🎯💞👍🏼
These history remind me of what today republicans was trying to do, Trump was there leader!
Remember Democrats.....you still are the party of slavery 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@andrewderry5156 and now Republicans will be remembered as the party of white hooded persons, swastikas, various confederate banners and chants of white power.😆😂🤣😂😂🥲
@@andrewderry5156 there were Republican slave holders too numbskull
The same thing now, nothing new under the sun 🌞.
The News and Observer is still published in 2023.
I lived there for 5 years
13:33 the bottom line. You are born in America you are American period.
No. You are an American citizen. You only become American when you racially integrate with the Indigenous people.
Horrific!!
So sad
Sounds like 1/6 2021 Washington
Teaching only good history that makes you feel great = propaganda. I’m a Tar Heel. They don’t teach this to this day. We must understand our history or are doomed to repeat it.
The was running Wilmington because we are the indigenous people of the land
Here because of Bill Burr.
Urr buddy no dat de blakk manz runnz da bess gubb-mintz an sheeit! Juss looks da Grate Zimbabwe! Since dey has gott it bak frum dem krakaz thangz iz way mo betta dan bee-fo! An Souff Africa izz way mo betta urr day! No watt ahm say-n!
WE WUZ KAINGZ!
This some shit , but hey that’s history.
Malcolm X warned us about liberals 55 years ago!🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
Those were CONSERVATIVES IN THAT ERA
The interviewer looks like he's relishing in the fact of what happen to the blacks,
Smh
My sense is he is proud to finally get the truth out. As some residents of Wilmington have written, they never heard about this. The author is pleased to finally educate us all.
I don’t think so
We need a black person telling thia story this guy watering it down
I swear the Democratic Party has not changed since 1890 ... wow just wow
They switched names in the 1960s
mr. meowgi that’s what you think
Yes, that is correct. Blacks were Republicans and as the clan began to rise, the republican party aligned themselves with the white supremacist (the only way for them to attain power over blacks who were educated and financially successful). The few Republicans that did not support the views of white supremacy switched to the democratic party. The Republican party continues to be aligned with clansmen today.
They completely switched....The party of white supremacy THEN was the democratic party now its clearly the republican party
@@Billybeer16 They think it and they are correct. You're wrong.
It was ok when the white man was rapping black woman
Emenimn is only white rapper that's any good. I sure hope he wasn't mixed up in this mess! Luda is way mo betta regardless!
A day of blood: The 1898 Wilmington Race Riot by LeRae Sikes Umfleet
im bout t go back and be a republican
He keeps saying white supremacy instead of Demacrates
Funny sounds like today's Republicans party.
The horrible Democrats have always been horrible.