Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )
стих о святых Боге Откровение 12:17 Версия короля Джеймса 17 И разгневался дракон на жену, и пошел воевать с остатком семени ее, соблюдающим заповеди Божии и имеющими свидетельство Иисуса Христа.
I agree with Justin Martyr on everything except in not following the Law. Hebrews quotes Jeremiah 31:33 TWICE - the new covenant is about the LAW on our hearts. Ezekiel 36:27 is about His Spirit which causes us to walk in His statutes and ordinances. And, when Jesus comes to reign, He will be enforcing the Law in His Kingdom - viewing it another way: Jesus will judge and rule us based on what standard? The Law. But we also have an advocate in Him.
I read somewhere Justin was arguing with himself you could say. It said he was acting as Trypho and Trypho didnt exist and wrote out the argument like he was having dialogue with another person. YOU ever heard this??
7:00 Interestingly enough there is the idea of Messiah Son of Joseph and Messiah Son of David in Rabbinical Judaism. One suffering and humiliated, and the other a triumphant conquerer.
there is so much Justin Martyr gets right and explains well, but he is not infallible. he seems to have some good ideas, i like the explanation the son is begotten of the father in the way that fire begets fire. also the typology he taught is really awesome. some other things Justin said are plain wrong. the law and circumcision were most certainly not a punishment as Justin called them. The law, including circumcision, is good and holy. (Romans 7:12, but you should just read the whole chapter Romans 7 to understand the law). The psalmists delight in the good law of God many times throughout Psalms. Also in this dialogue, Justin Martyr teaches replacement theology which is an anti-biblical idea. In reality, we (Christian Gentiles) are grafted in, not replacing Israel. (Romans 11:17-19, but you should just read all of Romans 11 for more about Gentiles and Jews).
verse about the saints God Revelation 12:17 King James Version 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
This video is so troubling on so many levels... First it's Relacement Theology saying that God has replaced the Jewish people with the church :( Is God a man that He should lie? Is God a divorcee? Did not the Apostle Paul say that God gave the oracles to the Jewish people Rm.3:2-4. To begin with, the Jews were entrusted with the oracles of God. 3 What if some were unfaithful? Does their faithlessness nullify the faithfulness of God? 4 By no means! Justin Martyr was anti-semitic.... and it appears as if the creators of this video forget that God said He would curse anyone who curse Abraham and his seed, and bless those who bless him! Did God change His mind about the Jewish people? If God did, (WHICH HE DID NOT) then NO CHristian has a leg to stand on, cause He can change His mind about you too! There is so much in this video to unpack and dispute, but space will not allow. Believers who follow Yeshua/Jesus, follow Him and NOT cleverly devised teachings that are against the scriptures. 2 Peter 1:16
Well said. This channel is full of hate for Jews and so are the Christians. They must be going insane knowing that Jesus was actually Jewish and only deceitful politicians have crafted the Christians theology for them. Oh wait... Christians don't even realize they have been deceived so they aren't too bothered about things like truth or actual history.
The circumcision interpretation is fictitious and also the kashrut law(food law)! You cannot simply interpret it that way GOD does not explain things why you don't need to eat certain things, but the weight certainly in obedience, period! And Jewish Messianic( Christian) will still practice their through their heritage! Read Acts 21:15-26, so I think this is replacement Theology, I agree!
Justin Martyr must have been the type of person that the Apostle warned us against when he said "Let no man carry you away with the philosophies ..after the rudiments of the world". ( Colosians 2:8) . Justin Martyr surported the philosophies of Soractes & Hereaclitus for example ( see Apologia x1vi). I listen to Paul, who was chosen & inspired to write By Jesus, not human non Christian philosophers!
@@cheeseface6328 Its only tradition that Justin was in fact martyred in 165AD. If his motive was a true faith in Christ then I commend him! However the point I was making is this; He was one of a group of 'church fathers' who tried to reconcile greek, hellenistic philosophy with the true teachings of Jesus & the apostles. After extensive research I say these things! One example is; 'The Early church Fathers' By Henry Bettenson page 10 under 'Justin. In part it reads "Though more doctrinal than the other apologists , he is not really a theologian. rather he is a philosopher of a somewhat superficial kind. For whom Christianity is a rational truth & way of life . HE IS ONE OF THE FIRST TO STRIVE TO RCONCILE CHRISTIANITY AND HELLENISM thought ( ie; greek philosophy). (Caps mine). Both Jesus, Paul & Peter warned that such men would infultrate the the congregation & lead some astray from the true faith. ( Please read Acts 20:28-30). I am not judging anyone, just stating facts that affect true faith!
@@kiwihans100 Sorry, I'm not interested in protestant nonsense. I left that behind a long time ago. I hope you can see your errors and become a part of God's only True Church!
@@kiwihans100 A Church in history convened to establish the Canon of Scripture that all protestants love so much. It isn't logical to believe that a specific Church established the Canon of inspired Scriptures via Council and then failed some years later. As our Lord said, "The gates of hell will not prevail." It seems to me that many protestants lack real faith, that God can establish a visible Church that will last until His return. No Christian for 1500 years held to what any protestant now believes. Paul writes to Timothy about the laying on of hands. The earliest Christian writings from the first centuries A.D. speak about bishops and the priesthood. These are just some points. Many more can be found. You're going to have to recognize and retire your protestant presuppositions to see your error. Praying for you, friend
When Jesus said I’ll be 3 day in the world, comparing hisself to Jonah, he meant he won’t die. Jonah DIDNT DIE. he survived. So Jesus didn’t die but god saved him and brought him to heaven. That’s why there is no body to be found. Jesus was eating after. Can a spirit eat?? Can a spirit have flesh and bones? So either people think god is a zombie or god can be humiliated by humans.
i believe you might be confused about resurrection. Jesus died on the cross which is one of the most well-established facts of history. However, some people will dispute his resurrection. But as you stated, Jesus was seen by many people to be eating and drinking after his public death on the cross. This is because he resurrected exactly as he had predicted many times during his ministry. He was not just a spirit, but it was his real flesh and bones body, truly resurrected from the dead! The reason we cannot find his body is because after he resurrected, he lived for 40 days to teach among the people in Jerusalem. After that, Jesus ascended into the clouds with the promise that he would return one day in the clouds. Since you have mentioned that Jesus who is God was humiliated by humans, I will share with you a bible passage about the topic of Jesus' humility from Philippians 2:3-11. 3 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, 4 not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others. 5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; 7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death- even death on a cross! 9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Jesus was deeply humble to suffer so great a humiliation. He was also deeply motivated by love. He loves us, including you personally, more than we can ever imagine. He came to Earth as a lowly human and offered his own life as a sacrifice for our sins, so that we may be made clean and pure before God. We can only go to heaven if the punishment for our sins is taken by a worthy sacrifice. The only sacrifice that is worthy to take the sins of every human being in the world, is someone who is both God and human and who has never sinned. Jesus is the only perfect sacrifice. I pray that you may experience and understand how much Jesus loves you. He showed his great love for you by dying a horrible and humiliating death for you. One day, Jesus will return and he will receive all the glory that he deserves, every knee will bow to him.
How could justin the martyr accused the Jews of misinterpreting important passages of scriptures, if he doesn't know how to interpret the torah. The Old testament (Tanakh) is a Jewish thing and cannot be interpreted by a gentile.
@@DrBased do you know how to interpret the holy Torah? Do ypu know what is written in the Talmud? Did you study the Torah and know what is written in it? Justin the Martyr interpreted it wrongly.
@@cheeseface6328 how about you? Do you know that to interpret the Torah, you need to use the Talmud to interpret it? If you are not going to use the Talmud to interpret the Torah, you will mislead the Jews and you will be accountable for it. The holy Torah is a very complicated thing. I am not against Justin the Martyr, he's one of the apostolic fathers and one of the pillars of Christian faith. I'm just sad that he was not able to interpret the holy Torah to the Jew correctly. In regard to his teachings, I can say that his teachings and testimonies are perfectly correct and inspired by our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
This is excellent. May all Scripture scholars have the faith of Saint Justin.
Indeed. Thank you Fr. John!!
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Good video and the animations are extremly awesome.
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Truly!
St. Justin the Patron saint of the Bible scholars
Can you reference these videos so that we can verify their accuracy? I'm dubious about some of the things you stated about Justin Martyr.
Excellent !
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time
The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits
So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply
Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )
Спасибо! Хороший канал, хорошая подача материала.
Thank you so much!!
стих о святых Боге Откровение 12:17 Версия короля Джеймса 17 И разгневался дракон на жену, и пошел воевать с остатком семени ее, соблюдающим заповеди Божии и имеющими свидетельство Иисуса Христа.
Excellent! Get over here! Fatality!
I agree with Justin Martyr on everything except in not following the Law. Hebrews quotes Jeremiah 31:33 TWICE - the new covenant is about the LAW on our hearts. Ezekiel 36:27 is about His Spirit which causes us to walk in His statutes and ordinances. And, when Jesus comes to reign, He will be enforcing the Law in His Kingdom - viewing it another way: Jesus will judge and rule us based on what standard? The Law. But we also have an advocate in Him.
I read somewhere Justin was arguing with himself you could say. It said he was acting as Trypho and Trypho didnt exist and wrote out the argument like he was having dialogue with another person. YOU ever heard this??
this is, shockingly, true. justin was a very knowledgeable man, and he was answering all the arguments he could think of in his mind.
A smart man can do it. Even I myself can do it. But it is difficult to pull off because of our biases.
7:00
Interestingly enough there is the idea of Messiah Son of Joseph and Messiah Son of David in Rabbinical Judaism. One suffering and humiliated, and the other a triumphant conquerer.
i’m reading this rn , it’s funny how much justin talks though compared to trypho 😂
Love that you're reading the text now!!!
He was very learned and scholarly, logos was his life.
@@annak29 amen
God Bless you! Can you do Theophilus to Autolycus next?
We hope to cover more in the patristics in the next few months.
@@TheologyAcademy Alright! No pressure 👌
Many thanks!!
But Jonas never died in the belly of the fish. The comparison isn’t comparable at all.
there is so much Justin Martyr gets right and explains well, but he is not infallible. he seems to have some good ideas, i like the explanation the son is begotten of the father in the way that fire begets fire. also the typology he taught is really awesome.
some other things Justin said are plain wrong. the law and circumcision were most certainly not a punishment as Justin called them. The law, including circumcision, is good and holy. (Romans 7:12, but you should just read the whole chapter Romans 7 to understand the law). The psalmists delight in the good law of God many times throughout Psalms. Also in this dialogue, Justin Martyr teaches replacement theology which is an anti-biblical idea. In reality, we (Christian Gentiles) are grafted in, not replacing Israel. (Romans 11:17-19, but you should just read all of Romans 11 for more about Gentiles and Jews).
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Justin Martyr was more apologetic than philosopher
Both.
@@TheologyAcademy what do you think about Justin being "antisemitic"?
@@Benjamin-jo4rfHe had every right to be so, Jews actively persecuted the christians in the roman empire, they started it.
@@Benjamin-jo4rf lol
verse about the saints God
Revelation 12:17
King James Version
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
This video is so troubling on so many levels... First it's Relacement Theology saying that God has replaced the Jewish people with the church :( Is God a man that He should lie? Is God a divorcee? Did not the Apostle Paul say that God gave the oracles to the Jewish people Rm.3:2-4. To begin with, the Jews were entrusted with the oracles of God. 3 What if some were unfaithful? Does their faithlessness nullify the faithfulness of God? 4 By no means!
Justin Martyr was anti-semitic.... and it appears as if the creators of this video forget that God said He would curse anyone who curse Abraham and his seed, and bless those who bless him! Did God change His mind about the Jewish people? If God did, (WHICH HE DID NOT) then NO CHristian has a leg to stand on, cause He can change His mind about you too! There is so much in this video to unpack and dispute, but space will not allow. Believers who follow Yeshua/Jesus, follow Him and NOT cleverly devised teachings that are against the scriptures. 2 Peter 1:16
Please read Romans chapter 11 concerning Israel and the grafting of the gentiles.
To you, everyone, even Christ, is antisemitic.
Well said. This channel is full of hate for Jews and so are the Christians. They must be going insane knowing that Jesus was actually Jewish and only deceitful politicians have crafted the Christians theology for them. Oh wait... Christians don't even realize they have been deceived so they aren't too bothered about things like truth or actual history.
The circumcision interpretation is fictitious and also the kashrut law(food law)! You cannot simply interpret it that way GOD does not explain things why you don't need to eat certain things, but the weight certainly in obedience, period! And Jewish Messianic( Christian) will still practice their through their heritage! Read Acts 21:15-26, so I think this is replacement Theology, I agree!
Justin Martyr must have been the type of person that the Apostle warned us against when he said "Let no man carry you away with the philosophies ..after the rudiments of the world". ( Colosians 2:8) . Justin Martyr surported the philosophies of Soractes & Hereaclitus for example ( see Apologia x1vi). I listen to Paul, who was chosen & inspired to write By Jesus, not human non Christian philosophers!
What a horrible thing to say. Saint Justin Martyr died for his refusal to abandon our Lord. May God have mercy on us. I hope you can become Orthodox
@@cheeseface6328 Its only tradition that Justin was in fact martyred in 165AD. If his motive was a true faith in Christ then I commend him! However the point I was making is this; He was one of a group of 'church fathers' who tried to reconcile greek, hellenistic philosophy with the true teachings of Jesus & the apostles. After extensive research I say these things! One example is; 'The Early church Fathers' By Henry Bettenson page 10 under 'Justin. In part it reads "Though more doctrinal than the other apologists , he is not really a theologian. rather he is a philosopher of a somewhat superficial kind. For whom Christianity is a rational truth & way of life . HE IS ONE OF THE FIRST TO STRIVE TO RCONCILE CHRISTIANITY AND HELLENISM thought ( ie; greek philosophy). (Caps mine). Both Jesus, Paul & Peter warned that such men would infultrate the the congregation & lead some astray from the true faith. ( Please read Acts 20:28-30). I am not judging anyone, just stating facts that affect true faith!
@@kiwihans100 Sorry, I'm not interested in protestant nonsense. I left that behind a long time ago. I hope you can see your errors and become a part of God's only True Church!
@@cheeseface6328 Glad you have a Faith! What can you say to convince me you have the true religion? I am searching!
@@kiwihans100 A Church in history convened to establish the Canon of Scripture that all protestants love so much. It isn't logical to believe that a specific Church established the Canon of inspired Scriptures via Council and then failed some years later.
As our Lord said, "The gates of hell will not prevail." It seems to me that many protestants lack real faith, that God can establish a visible Church that will last until His return.
No Christian for 1500 years held to what any protestant now believes. Paul writes to Timothy about the laying on of hands. The earliest Christian writings from the first centuries A.D. speak about bishops and the priesthood.
These are just some points. Many more can be found. You're going to have to recognize and retire your protestant presuppositions to see your error. Praying for you, friend
When Jesus said I’ll be 3 day in the world, comparing hisself to Jonah, he meant he won’t die.
Jonah DIDNT DIE. he survived.
So Jesus didn’t die but god saved him and brought him to heaven. That’s why there is no body to be found.
Jesus was eating after. Can a spirit eat?? Can a spirit have flesh and bones?
So either people think god is a zombie or god can be humiliated by humans.
i believe you might be confused about resurrection. Jesus died on the cross which is one of the most well-established facts of history. However, some people will dispute his resurrection. But as you stated, Jesus was seen by many people to be eating and drinking after his public death on the cross. This is because he resurrected exactly as he had predicted many times during his ministry. He was not just a spirit, but it was his real flesh and bones body, truly resurrected from the dead! The reason we cannot find his body is because after he resurrected, he lived for 40 days to teach among the people in Jerusalem. After that, Jesus ascended into the clouds with the promise that he would return one day in the clouds.
Since you have mentioned that Jesus who is God was humiliated by humans, I will share with you a bible passage about the topic of Jesus' humility from Philippians 2:3-11.
3 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, 4 not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others.
5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death-
even death on a cross!
9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
Jesus was deeply humble to suffer so great a humiliation. He was also deeply motivated by love. He loves us, including you personally, more than we can ever imagine. He came to Earth as a lowly human and offered his own life as a sacrifice for our sins, so that we may be made clean and pure before God. We can only go to heaven if the punishment for our sins is taken by a worthy sacrifice. The only sacrifice that is worthy to take the sins of every human being in the world, is someone who is both God and human and who has never sinned. Jesus is the only perfect sacrifice. I pray that you may experience and understand how much Jesus loves you. He showed his great love for you by dying a horrible and humiliating death for you. One day, Jesus will return and he will receive all the glory that he deserves, every knee will bow to him.
How could justin the martyr accused the Jews of misinterpreting important passages of scriptures, if he doesn't know how to interpret the torah. The Old testament (Tanakh) is a Jewish thing and cannot be interpreted by a gentile.
Once Christ came in the flesh, those who accept Him are the True Israelites. Those who deny Him do not understand the Old Testament
@@DrBased do you know how to interpret the holy Torah? Do ypu know what is written in the Talmud? Did you study the Torah and know what is written in it? Justin the Martyr interpreted it wrongly.
@@DrBased go learn and study the holy Torah, the way Jews interpret it and you will agree with me that Justin the martyr interpreted it wrong.
@@rainierlontok2606 You are completely lost. You don't know what the Old Covenant is.
@@cheeseface6328 how about you? Do you know that to interpret the Torah, you need to use the Talmud to interpret it? If you are not going to use the Talmud to interpret the Torah, you will mislead the Jews and you will be accountable for it. The holy Torah is a very complicated thing. I am not against Justin the Martyr, he's one of the apostolic fathers and one of the pillars of Christian faith. I'm just sad that he was not able to interpret the holy Torah to the Jew correctly. In regard to his teachings, I can say that his teachings and testimonies are perfectly correct and inspired by our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.