As Grier would say, "You're more worried about the OLine than we are." Yeah, we also know the history of the game and a good OLine gives a team the best chance to win.
@YoungGates37 pass blocking hasn't been a problem when Tua has been in because he gets rid of the ball so fast but if he has to hold the ball that extra second then it's a problem
@lorenpotaczek125 but that's the issue. This offense and Tua can evolve if the offense line can play better. Till then, Tua is playing within a 20-yard box.
Love needed 3 years on the bench to get where he is, he was a huge project coming out of college. That opportunity was never gonna be there with the dolphins
@@blindwatcherseye2229 he didn't need that time on the bench, he had no choice in the matter, they had Aaron Rodgers ahead of him, who was at that time having mvp seasons...
Tua has gone for the lead or tied a game when needed. Just never got the chance to go for the win cause the defence failed in Buffalo and against the Cardinals.
Kyren Williams is pretty comparable to Jacob's. Dolphins are a top 10 pressure team and Love is a bottom 3 QB when pressured. That's going to be the biggest key IMO.
5:33 that question is hard because if Love was drafted here he would not have gotten to sit for years. He might have struggled and been forced out of town. Who knows?
Bruh I hate when people say the Rams are not a good team when everyone had the Rams winning ! And the rams was hot at that time don’t start switching up now saying the rams are not good they have a Olson record because they been banged up most of the season
Nobody said Herbert. It was love. The source came from inside the team. He didn't name names for obvious reasons but he confirmed it came from within the team.
@mroverdose14 how do you know where it came from? There were plenty of stories written in Miami newspapers that have actually said Herbert and love. Did you work for the Miami dolphins? I didn't think so
This morning scraping frost from my truck in 20 degrees thinking this isn't so bad. After about ten minutes I'm thinking, damn this is cold! Dolphins wear good gloves!!!
Tua haters tend to forget about the Dolphins road win over a good the Detroit Lions team . Since that lost to the Dolphins at home , the Lions have been on a tear .
@parrott113 Take a look at the Lions roster for that game and while you are at it , count how many games the Lions won consecutively after the lost to the Dolphins . The Dolphins beat an elite Lions team that football Sunday ! That game shows that the Dolphins can beat the best the league has to offer .
I can’t with this kids logic. He makes no sense every episode. So playoffs wins are now the only stat that matters? Ok then Daniel Jones, baker mayfield, Ryan Tannehill are all Better than Tua😂😂😂
I know you guys aren't going to like this, but... Brian Flores would still be the head coach of the Miami Dolphins if they went o-line at 5, and Jordan love at 18. I guaranfukntee it
No way that guys doesn’t ruin Jordan. Remember no good coaches would come her with Flores. IF we took Jordan he would have struggled more than Tua and because he wasn’t as high of a pick Flores would have pushed the trade for Watson.
@ he was not all in on Love he just wasn’t sold on Tua. You can tell because the love stuff came out after Tua was the starter. He definitely was all in on Watson. He took the owner down to picking him or the GM over a Watson. He didn’t make that kind of stand for Love.
Tua gave Flores all those wins . All that smack talking Brian Flores was doing to Tua . Tua was going on a win streak making Flores look like a good head coach
Me and Omar think a lot !! When he ask which 1 player from both sides who needs to step it up . I was saying for offense The trenches in the run game has to step up and for defense I was saying the D line steady getting pressure at first but then I was like Jevon Holland I feel he’s having a step down year . Not the jevon holland we use to seeing
Since Flo wanted to go OT then QB, the question should have been... would you draft Tua or Love ....AND Tristan Wirfs, or Michael Becton or Jedrick Wills.
I've watched the Dolphins closely since Shula's first press conference. To my eyes Tua is a fine QB...but the only time the Dolphins have gotten to the SB (outside of the '84 team) is when their defense led the league...and the only time we have won the SB is when we had one of the best OL's in the league. If I was building the team I would spend my money on the defense and the OL, and add the skill players once we had teh ability to beat the other teams in physical games.
A better question would be what if Flo would have trusted his rookie qb drafted lineman and add that same defense he put together that won 7 ina row to end the season? Where would they be rn
Tua and Mike tag team know the entire country will be watching and judging on the question. Are you for real? Some third receiver needs to step-up and help the offense. River Cracraft? Can Odell answer the call? Become some resemblance of his old self? For one game? Had two such games last year with Baltimore.
16:35 you damn near got accused of having never had a mind to lose. On the list of problems posed by Green Bay’s offense, Josh Jacob’s is #1-#4, by himself.
Here they go again going stupid over Tua against sorry team 🛑 lets go stupid when he does it against good teams, when he don't, yall talk about him like he's trash, so save it, pumping fake fans up to be let down! FACTS 💯
As a Packer fan, I couldn't agree more, it is fricken freezing here and I live in it! However as a Packer Fan and stock holder I am so glad they stayed warm :) I thought cold was cold until I went to Colorado and got out of my car in 13 degrees below zero weather with a short sleeve shirt to fill up the tank expecting to get it started and then go back into the car. However 13 below zero was warm in Colorado where as here in Wisconsin it's a much more damp cold and goes to your bones. So that 13 below felt like 35 but 20 degrees here is very cold and yes we do get to negative 30 below :)
Even if which is a huge if the Dolphins beat the Packers, they aren’t beating the Browns and Jets 2 times. They’d lose one of those other games anyway. I’m not falling for it this year after that Titans game last year. Been here plenty and seen this movie before.
@mroverdose14 are you serious? Lol that's one mf who cried about the position he played who cares. Everyone else had no problem going to work doing what they get paid to do
One of the narratives of Tua was that he is a one read quarterback. Well we are seeing that isn't true either.
Get Tua an offensive line that can hold the defensive line for more than 1.7 seconds and he may be the best quarterback in the league.
facts
Oline havent been that bad as far as the passing game run block is more of a concern
As Grier would say, "You're more worried about the OLine than we are." Yeah, we also know the history of the game and a good OLine gives a team the best chance to win.
@YoungGates37 pass blocking hasn't been a problem when Tua has been in because he gets rid of the ball so fast but if he has to hold the ball that extra second then it's a problem
@lorenpotaczek125 but that's the issue. This offense and Tua can evolve if the offense line can play better. Till then, Tua is playing within a 20-yard box.
Love needed 3 years on the bench to get where he is, he was a huge project coming out of college. That opportunity was never gonna be there with the dolphins
He’d have been ruined by Flores.
FACTS!!!! And Flores couldn't even get a "decent" offensive coordinator or QB coach to develop said QB.
@@blindwatcherseye2229 he didn't need that time on the bench, he had no choice in the matter, they had Aaron Rodgers ahead of him, who was at that time having mvp seasons...
@@AnEyeRackyDid you see Love play games Rogers miss? He needed time
@@mroverdose14 what games would that be exactly?
He did it against Buffalo as well this season, they just won on that last second field goal, defense, didn’t hold up
A 61 yard FG is kind of rare. 80% of the time that distance would be good enough to keep opponent from scoring.
Tua has gone for the lead or tied a game when needed. Just never got the chance to go for the win cause the defence failed in Buffalo and against the Cardinals.
Kyren Williams is pretty comparable to Jacob's. Dolphins are a top 10 pressure team and Love is a bottom 3 QB when pressured. That's going to be the biggest key IMO.
Tua with the sheisty mask is no joke
Super excited to freeze my arse off tomorrow! 😂
Tua Da Super Bowl 2024 !
5:33 that question is hard because if Love was drafted here he would not have gotten to sit for years. He might have struggled and been forced out of town. Who knows?
Behind that line with Parker as WR1? Love would be out the league
Hi guys a must win game happy Thanksgiving ❤ thanks for the show
It concerns me that Tua is 0-7 in cold weather under 40 F
Let’s see if he can slash this narrative
I’m leaning towards Tua all day. Over all QBs
Bruh I hate when people say the Rams are not a good team when everyone had the Rams winning ! And the rams was hot at that time don’t start switching up now saying the rams are not good they have a Olson record because they been banged up most of the season
Raheem has torched the packers in lambeau before . Need him
Agree!
Jordan Love is the better investment because he doesn't have the concussion issues.
If that's what is being prioritized, then yes.
Omar 100% in this episode. Keep it coming.
Green Bay isn't any better than Buffalo.
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Miami wins.
Finsup!
Wide 9 defensive OC I think was Vance Joesph in Miami
Omar, you’re a professional writer. There is no word “supposebly”
Daniel Jones has playoff win. So I guess he's better than Tua
😂😂😂
Who told omar that Flores wanted Love at 18? Who is the source? We've also he wanted Herbert. So which one is it? Who's the source?
Nobody said Herbert. It was love. The source came from inside the team. He didn't name names for obvious reasons but he confirmed it came from within the team.
@mroverdose14 how do you know where it came from? There were plenty of stories written in Miami newspapers that have actually said Herbert and love. Did you work for the Miami dolphins? I didn't think so
This morning scraping frost from my truck in 20 degrees thinking this isn't so bad. After about ten minutes I'm thinking, damn this is cold! Dolphins wear good gloves!!!
Miami could prorate Barrett's signing bonus to be fair. Good idea ?
Tua haters tend to forget about the Dolphins road win over a good the Detroit Lions team . Since that lost to the Dolphins at home , the Lions have been on a tear .
Lol no they were just rebuilding😂😂😂
@parrott113 Take a look at the Lions roster for that game and while you are at it , count how many games the Lions won consecutively after the lost to the Dolphins . The Dolphins beat an elite Lions team that football Sunday ! That game shows that the Dolphins can beat the best the league has to offer .
I can’t with this kids logic. He makes no sense every episode. So playoffs wins are now the only stat that matters? Ok then Daniel
Jones, baker mayfield, Ryan Tannehill are all
Better than Tua😂😂😂
Love is better than Tua lol
Great episode! FINS UP
I know you guys aren't going to like this, but...
Brian Flores would still be the head coach of the Miami Dolphins if they went o-line at 5, and Jordan love at 18. I guaranfukntee it
Way better off with McDaniels and Tua. Flores is a great DC but not head coach.
No way that guys doesn’t ruin Jordan. Remember no good coaches would come her with Flores. IF we took Jordan he would have struggled more than Tua and because he wasn’t as high of a pick Flores would have pushed the trade for Watson.
@@synstro6198 not likely, he wanted Jordan Love. When a coach makes that type of call, they don't give up on it easy. Tua wasn't Flores' pick.
@ he was not all in on Love he just wasn’t sold on Tua. You can tell because the love stuff came out after Tua was the starter. He definitely was all in on Watson. He took the owner down to picking him or the GM over a Watson. He didn’t make that kind of stand for Love.
Tua gave Flores all those wins . All that smack talking Brian Flores was doing to Tua . Tua was going on a win streak making Flores look like a good head coach
Phins win, and Packers are a.bad team will be the title. Mark my words😂
Me and Omar think a lot !! When he ask which 1 player from both sides who needs to step it up . I was saying for offense The trenches in the run game has to step up and for defense I was saying the D line steady getting pressure at first but then I was like Jevon Holland I feel he’s having a step down year . Not the jevon holland we use to seeing
Since Flo wanted to go OT then QB, the question should have been... would you draft Tua or Love ....AND Tristan Wirfs, or Michael Becton or Jedrick Wills.
Jordan Love easy.
But can the Dolphins get it done on Thursday?
I've watched the Dolphins closely since Shula's first press conference. To my eyes Tua is a fine QB...but the only time the Dolphins have gotten to the SB (outside of the '84 team) is when their defense led the league...and the only time we have won the SB is when we had one of the best OL's in the league. If I was building the team I would spend my money on the defense and the OL, and add the skill players once we had teh ability to beat the other teams in physical games.
A better question would be what if Flo would have trusted his rookie qb drafted lineman and add that same defense he put together that won 7 ina row to end the season? Where would they be rn
Flo iz Min DC, what are they 9-2? 9-3?
Flo iz Min DC, what are they 9-2? 9-
Mostert’s game against the Packers was in San Francisco lol
Who is this wale 😂🤣👊🏿✌🏿️
Isaiah the Rams were a good team at the time they played them 4-4.
Tua and Mike tag team know the entire country will be watching and judging on the question. Are you for real? Some third receiver needs to step-up and help the offense. River Cracraft? Can Odell answer the call? Become some resemblance of his old self? For one game? Had two such games last year with Baltimore.
I think Miami needs to be done employing anyone by the name of Fuller. Anyone else agree? Will……Kendall….
16:35 you damn near got accused of having never had a mind to lose. On the list of problems posed by Green Bay’s offense, Josh Jacob’s is #1-#4, by himself.
Here they go again going stupid over Tua against sorry team 🛑 lets go stupid when he does it against good teams, when he don't, yall talk about him like he's trash, so save it, pumping fake fans up to be let down! FACTS 💯
Raheem can bust it loose against the Packers!
Why did Isaiah switch from a Yankees hat to Dodgers? Signed, a Dodgers fan since 1979
I was hoping Dolphins would get up there today to start acclimating! Bad decision to wait till tomorrow!
As a Packer fan, I couldn't agree more, it is fricken freezing here and I live in it! However as a Packer Fan and stock holder I am so glad they stayed warm :)
I thought cold was cold until I went to Colorado and got out of my car in 13 degrees below zero weather with a short sleeve shirt to fill up the tank expecting to get it started and then go back into the car. However 13 below zero was warm in Colorado where as here in Wisconsin it's a much more damp cold and goes to your bones. So that 13 below felt like 35 but 20 degrees here is very cold and yes we do get to negative 30 below :)
@ I run in 20 degree weather but playing football is another story, the ground is hard when it’s cold! Hope both teams don’t get too injured!
Even if which is a huge if the Dolphins beat the Packers, they aren’t beating the Browns and Jets 2 times. They’d lose one of those other games anyway. I’m not falling for it this year after that Titans game last year. Been here plenty and seen this movie before.
Run game 3rd down conversions 50/50 against Packers!
Can you both PLEASE get some better internet connections? Just upgrade to better wireless and expense it back to the Herald. 🙂
Tyson bowser is related to Jordan fuller. Those that know know lol.
Sounds like Brian Flores strategy would have been better
If players and coaches would play for him. Remember we lost minkah cause of him
@mroverdose14 are you serious? Lol that's one mf who cried about the position he played who cares. Everyone else had no problem going to work doing what they get paid to do
Face plant in Green Bay. Omar, ur qb and team sucks! Lol.
Omar you be low key hating..
Didn’t love get hurt this year? Lol
Packers - Dolphins 34 - 13, boring
Ok buddy stop snorting that white white
Jordan is clearly better than Tua . Comical to compare the two. lol
Clearly??😎
I wouldn't say that. If anything Tua has done more.