As the completion of the repairs, repainting, and refitting of the USS Texas, Battleship Texas, BB-35 draws closer, is there anything your channel can do to spotlight this excellent legendary warship?
Captain Brown certainly earns respect as a premiere test pilot-likely in the top 5 of any list. However, his comment that the P-47 could not fight at high altitude I have an issue with. Too bad he didn't speak with Colonel Francis Gabreski or LTC Robert S. Johnson-both high scoring aces in the Thunderbolt. I suppose if your skill in a fight is turning and climbing, you're not going to like the P-47. Learn what your aircraft can do well and don't fight the opponent's game just as with any weapon. Test flight has its own set of problems to deal with, while I imagine air to air combat has significant issues too.
He's talking about compressibility, which was a problem for both the 38 and the 47. They would both lock up if you got into a dive faster than mach .78. While a Spit could dive at mach .91. All accidental because no one understood it at the time. But German fighters could just dive away from 47s. The 47 arguably won the air war. That doesn't mean it was a better plane, and that the 8th were wrong in moving over to the 51 to replace it.
It seems there are two factions, one that worships him, and one of detractors. Calling his biased is none other than a biased comment itself. Just listen to his interviews about German aircraft. They are full of praises, and also full of critiques. He certainly showed less love for his American cousins, perhaps being more biased, but I also think he did not appreciate, as an aviator, certain things the British government agreed to (rightfully repaying the U.S. for all the help offered during the war).
@@Dronescapes We all have biases, even the experts. I think that the truth is likely somewhere between the two factions you describe. It's one thing for a keyboard jockey to dismiss him outright as biased. However, it's entirely different to disagree with his claims if they are backed up by evidence and people with relevant expertise. I'm a scientist by training and one of the most important lessons is that many experts who are equally brilliant and qualified can disagree on important issues. This even occurs for topics with a multitude of experiments and decades of research. In contrast, aerial warfare is far more subjective and no single person can know everything. I'm a big fan of Brown and am in gratitude to all of the pilots who defended us from tyranny. Nonetheless, I think we can respectfully disagree with some of his claims, provided we back this up with evidence.
The crated Subject of this video, P-47C S.N. 41-6067 was written off for unknown reasons 5 February 1943 in Brookhaven, NY. Unlike 15,000+ other Jugs - this Bird never left the nest. "If one got tired of flying, you could always go for a walk around the Stick" lol
He was certainly qualified to speak about these aircraft and knew more than any of us keyboard pilots know. However, I still wouldn't treat any single person's opinion as gospel. We should ask if his opinions represented a consensus or if other experts had different views.
The Spitfire was much stronger and considerably heavier than the German Me 109. The huge P-47 was the end of an escalating series of related Seversky/Republic fighters each getting increasingly bigger and heavier. There wasn’t all that much the USAAF could do to keep the enormous weight down, all the American high altitude Allison V-12 single engine fighters were bad failures so they had to use the really oversized P&W R-2800 engine. The U.S. Navy very successfully used the same engine with much lighter multi-stage multi-speed mechanical superchargers instead of the Airforces’ turbo-supercharger choice. Winkle was wrong about the P-47 wing, it was just as thin and sophisticated.
Eric Brown flew almost 500 different aircraft, NOT including variants! He was definitely the most experienced test pilot that ever lived, and probably for the rest of history
Yes it’s a M model . The 56th Fighter Group were the only users of the M model out of RAF Boxted . They had a few issues to start with mainly because it was discovered that the engines hadn’t been properly protected before the aircraft were shipped to the U.K.
Keep your eyes on the skies as i should be airborne in an hour or two :) and to think most men in 2024 would struggle assembling a flat pack bookshelf from Ikea lol
Eric Browns claims about the P47's mach limit was disproved by the RAF, he's hilarious, the P47's destroyed as many luftwaffe planes in 2 years than the spitfire did in 5 years. And they did it over enemy territory....
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As the completion of the repairs, repainting, and refitting of the USS Texas, Battleship Texas, BB-35 draws closer, is there anything your channel can do to spotlight this excellent legendary warship?
Captain Brown certainly earns respect as a premiere test pilot-likely in the top 5 of any list. However, his comment that the P-47 could not fight at high altitude I have an issue with. Too bad he didn't speak with Colonel Francis Gabreski or LTC Robert S. Johnson-both high scoring aces in the Thunderbolt. I suppose if your skill in a fight is turning and climbing, you're not going to like the P-47. Learn what your aircraft can do well and don't fight the opponent's game just as with any weapon. Test flight has its own set of problems to deal with, while I imagine air to air combat has significant issues too.
He's talking about compressibility, which was a problem for both the 38 and the 47. They would both lock up if you got into a dive faster than mach .78. While a Spit could dive at mach .91. All accidental because no one understood it at the time. But German fighters could just dive away from 47s.
The 47 arguably won the air war. That doesn't mean it was a better plane, and that the 8th were wrong in moving over to the 51 to replace it.
Winkle fought Bf/Me 109s, he saw many comrades killed. He knows more than we do.
It seems there are two factions, one that worships him, and one of detractors.
Calling his biased is none other than a biased comment itself.
Just listen to his interviews about German aircraft. They are full of praises, and also full of critiques.
He certainly showed less love for his American cousins, perhaps being more biased, but I also think he did not appreciate, as an aviator, certain things the British government agreed to (rightfully repaying the U.S. for all the help offered during the war).
@@Dronescapes He travelled in pre-war Germany and learned the language. Udet was a friend. He did it all.
@@Dronescapes We all have biases, even the experts. I think that the truth is likely somewhere between the two factions you describe. It's one thing for a keyboard jockey to dismiss him outright as biased. However, it's entirely different to disagree with his claims if they are backed up by evidence and people with relevant expertise. I'm a scientist by training and one of the most important lessons is that many experts who are equally brilliant and qualified can disagree on important issues. This even occurs for topics with a multitude of experiments and decades of research. In contrast, aerial warfare is far more subjective and no single person can know everything. I'm a big fan of Brown and am in gratitude to all of the pilots who defended us from tyranny. Nonetheless, I think we can respectfully disagree with some of his claims, provided we back this up with evidence.
Finally, i can get those crates off my trailers.
Absolute favorite airplane ever along with its son the A10 Thunderbolt ii! Gonna take a while but I will finish this video!
The crated Subject of this video, P-47C S.N. 41-6067 was written off for unknown reasons 5 February 1943 in Brookhaven, NY. Unlike 15,000+ other Jugs - this Bird never left the nest. "If one got tired of flying, you could always go for a walk around the Stick" lol
Of course he'd say the Spitfire was better. I'll take the P-47 any day of the week over the Spit!
Depends where…if it was mainland Europe p47 but spitfire if had to take off from England and stay there. P47 must be found short at climbing
I feel like this man might have flown both....so (in regards to the areas he was critical) I'll take his word lol.
He was certainly qualified to speak about these aircraft and knew more than any of us keyboard pilots know. However, I still wouldn't treat any single person's opinion as gospel. We should ask if his opinions represented a consensus or if other experts had different views.
The Spitfire was much stronger and considerably heavier than the German Me 109. The huge P-47 was the end of an escalating series of related Seversky/Republic fighters each getting increasingly bigger and heavier. There wasn’t all that much the USAAF could do to keep the enormous weight down, all the American high altitude Allison V-12 single engine fighters were bad failures so they had to use the really oversized P&W R-2800 engine. The U.S. Navy very successfully used the same engine with much lighter multi-stage multi-speed mechanical superchargers instead of the Airforces’ turbo-supercharger choice.
Winkle was wrong about the P-47 wing, it was just as thin and sophisticated.
Eric Brown flew almost 500 different aircraft, NOT including variants!
He was definitely the most experienced test pilot that ever lived, and probably for the rest of history
Is that an M in the thumbnail? Love the code “FUN” lol
Yes it’s a M model . The 56th Fighter Group were the only users of the M model out of RAF Boxted . They had a few issues to start with mainly because it was discovered that the engines hadn’t been properly protected before the aircraft were shipped to the U.K.
Remember reading where in the North African Campaign they (the USAAF) were farming out the assembly to the locals and all the headaches THAT created.
Keep your eyes on the skies as i should be airborne in an hour or two :) and to think most men in 2024 would struggle assembling a flat pack bookshelf from Ikea lol
Eric Browns claims about the P47's mach limit was disproved by the RAF, he's hilarious, the P47's destroyed as many luftwaffe planes in 2 years than the spitfire did in 5 years. And they did it over enemy territory....