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Not necessarily--lonely--there are alot of groups. Unity Churches, Spiritual Speakers, etc out there to support you !! Classes, podcasts, you'll be universally supported ❤
I remember that a physics professor I dated a couple of times was intrigued that I have seen ghosts. She never met a person who would admit to it. Being an engineer probably led credibility to my claims. Throughout my life I must have had over a dozen stranger, unexplainable events.
OK please tell us your most confident abnormal experience, Im coming from the pov that values and understands the authority of measurement and Naturalistic local cause amd effect paradigms. Im asking from the perspective obsessed with Anomalies that violate Normative Science but who values the empirical authority of Naturalism. Im critical of both cultures and dont dichotomize or value Us vs Them mentalities...thanks!
@@pcb8059 About a decade ago I saw a "Ghost Cat" in a cottage on Cape Cod. It appeared almost like a reflection in my glasses, and it was a black and white longhaired cat. After everybody went to bed, about half of the people there heard a cat scampering around the cottage throughout the night. There was no cat there, and strange things were know to happen in that cottage previously.
Yet another profound discussion w/ J. Kripal. I particularly liked his relaxed attitude toward causality, that it moves from the future to the past in many cases. He also makes good use of the inclusive idea that both/and is often more useful than either/or. Finally, it's a fact to me that we'll never get solid stories about the paranormal or a host of other things. The unsolved mysteries in life are the best ones to keep us humble!
Such a wonerfull conversation. I myself could give Jeffrey several experiences to ponder. Not that it would solve the riddle. I so appreciate New thinking allowed. Thanks gentlemen. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Great conversation. I've always been interested in the paranormal/super natural. I was brought up in christian household involving regular Sunday church attendance. By the time I was 20 I'd completed a move away from religion but if anything my interest in the bigger spiritual questions arose and interestingly was when unexplainable events started to happed which led me to joining a mediums development circle for a number of years. I read just about every book I could get my hands on for British mediums and for the last couple of years spent many hours reading/listening about NDEs and broader spiritual experiences.
I love this professor, thank you for inviting him onto your show. So much of what he says resonates with me so my psyche is experiencing a lot of relief. I won’t bore you with the ‘to do’s of the religious cult neighbors ‘communications’ I’m currently experiencing. I’m sure, in fact, that this is what a good proportion of the population also need to hear!
lachman & kripal w/ in weeks of each other!? i'm going to get spoiled. thank you for featuring some of my favorite authors & thinkers. the show is always great, but these have been fantastic.
Wonderful interview. While lIstening to it, I did not realize how the time went by, Thanks a lot. I would like to see these two Jeffries together more often. 😊💐
Hi His totally right. Every experiences,we never forget . When i take pictures,things manifest even on some videos. The most recent is unbelievable, Around 9 pm,2 years ago winter time. Sitting in my patio,during the confinement,nobody were outside and I saw walking across a young very skinny boy,wearing white pants ,shirt and jacket but two odds strange things. He had a silver helmet on his head,how could he breathe and like having a hard time to walk normally,his head was tilting to the right and his foot at the same time. Few regular steps and then tilting,taking my coat,went downstairs,across there’s a park with a bridge and when reaching the bridge with closed doors,nobody was there. It was not a form of a plasma but a real entity.helmet was silver,like a mirror but could see the face. I wanted to help but it vanished. His right with so many things. We are all connected and we are not alone. Cordially
Energy represents what something does, not what something is. But we make verbs into nouns and then talk about the nouns as if they actually exist in the physical world.
In magick or religious practice it makes much more sense to communicate with something using the idea of an entity rather than the idea of energy. They're both human constructed concepts though. It's just that one works in practice and the other one works only as a description.
Fascinating. Just fascinating. Reminds me of how in quantum physics you can either pinpoint the position or the function (wave or particle?) of the phenomenon you are studying, but not both at the same time. You try to pin down the paranormal, to measure an experience with precision, and you end up with something whose significance has been lost ... At least, the most vital part ... Because physics alone IS only a tool for measurement.
That Maslow/Eselen story sounds like Dean Radin being conjoured up by the guy in the next office who wanted to meet him, which he talked about with you when talking about his book Real Magick. I read btw. I've just finished Roland in Moonlight, by your interviewee David Bentley Hart, which was wonderful. I recommend it.
One thing I got from this _wonderful_ interview is the idea that maybe the Dialectic: thesis antithesis synthesis is a barrier to understanding "The Phenomena". Dialectic has become a cognitive habit - if it wasn't always - that has reached its point of diminishing return. We _have to_ break it if we're gonna be able to solve the big problems that are plaguing us right now. The UAP Phenomenon won't allow us - mostly materialists - to find a large story that explains everything. Every time we think we've got it wrapped up, we find out something that breaks the narrative. People right now are almost entirely doubling down on trying to find that synthesis. But that may just be digging us deeper into the hole. I think we need an alternative to Dialectic and other _antique_ epistemologies that includes everything that we are unaware of. *_Everything!_* What we are unaware of about the world "out there", of course. But most importantly, what we are unaware of about the worlds inside of us. This doesn't have to mean woo. Knowing myself well enuf to know why I prefer one narrative over another is not woo. It's just self-awareness. We keep wanting to anchor our narratives on stuff out there, but that's not where the resolution is. Our narratives are anchored inside of us. That's why we argue over narratives and no amount of "proof" will convince us or others to believe a different narrative. Denial is not a well-understood coping mechanism. Right now, denial is having its way with almost everyone and it's in the way of learning from new information. Seeking truth about the Object cannot help us here. We need truth about the Subject. It's all inside. We have to break this habit.
Regarding the 1h mark, Matías De Stefano suggests there are 9 dimensions, and that the ones involved in communicating with us are on the 5th dimension. It's definitely very strange sounding, but once you accept that whatever way life/consciousness really works, its going to be much stranger than our usual waking reality. Speaking of sound, I normally watch at 2x, but this time, in addition, for whatever reason I had the "Jon Hopkins - Music For Psychedelic Therapy" running in the background. It really gave the interview the right tone!
But there is no a priori contradiction between traditional forms of religion and science either. There is a contradiction between fundamentalist-literalist interpretations of religion and science; but "traditional religion" is not the same as fundamentalist. The Catholic Church, for instance, sees no contradiction between faith and science once both are properly understood.
I’ve been questioning since I was 4 years old, and can’t imagine I’m the only one. Are you sure teens haven’t just matured out of it? It’s possible you’re underestimating them.
I was questioning things like where was I before I was born and what exactly are thoughts when I was at that age too. Idk exactly what caused that, but it definitely wasn't midlife crisis. 😂
@@amandaterrio4823 I didn’t have any past life experiences, I just wanted answers about the existence of god and my Catholic dad couldn’t answer them. Nor did he like my questioning. 5 decades later, we’re still debating, less arguing and fighting about it though, only because I let him win now 😉 I will say my 2 year old granddaughter has me almost believing in reincarnation. She seems to be an old soul.
All the materialistic advertising has created Consumerism as the ultimate goal. What can anyone expect? It's simple and nearly instantaneous. Religion? No pazazz there!
It's a subtle and excellent point: materialism is not science and science is not materialist. Physics is the story of our interpretation of information (qualitative, binary, repeatable observables specifically), it's not whatever the information is itself... a description of description as Niels Bohr might say. It's very easy to slip into thinking that cosmology is reality and not a story. That doesn't mean it's 'wrong,' just as mathematics isn't wrong because it can never be consistent, complete, or decidable. In the end, science, through Gödel specifically, open the door to a much more awesome and infinite potential behind reality, even if a specific description is impossible. This subtle distinction is mostly unknown, even to 'scientists' and skeptic cynicism.
Meaning. That was the focus of my first book “The Textbook of the Universe: The Genetic Ascent to God”. ❤️🔥 I developed a statistical scientific method to get traction on the idea explained in the book. A method of investigation of the phenomena. It’s a statistical archaeology in a sense. I tried to tell Francis Crick a long time ago when he was still here about the primacy of meaning but he was just too materialist. It was vexing because when I first contacted him, he said I would be “amused to know” that when he opened my paper “MEANING” was written in large letters on the blackboard behind his desk… 😂 but his materialistic view was extremely important to highlight and frame what IS meaningful. At least that’s how I see it. Yes! There are real truthful stories and then there are ignorant ones and then nefarious ignorant ones… I also show how to discern them. It’s important because our lives depend on it. Anyway thanks for this. Love you guys. Awesome as usual. Jeffrey is so skilled at seeing and steering and prospecting for the “Gold” in his guests. It indicates a higher viewpoint and he himself is of unbelievably high value for that mutant skill, for the connectivity of his soul. 🥰Definitely going to look into those books from the other Jeffrey ❤️🔥🙏🏻
Fabulous. So much of this resonated with the trauma of my experiences which led to my spiritual Epiphany. I have come from a hardcore materialist atheist stance to being an open-minded observer of things that leave me in awe. Thank you. I needed this.
You have a problem on this episode, with your mic Jeffery. I do hope you sorted it out- it was picking up movement noise. Also the quality is weak and maybe a more expensive model might be worth investing in. Certainly mic placement needed addressing. If its a headset combo I would recommend replacement.
I just try too do the best I can. Problems occur when society pigeonholes and stereotypes people, like why does TH-cam think I only want to see ads with black people in them. A rhetorical question.
I studied political science when I was in my 20s, always thought science people are smarter. In my 30s I study chemistry, I live with people who have PhDs in physics, chemistry and math. All I can say that people who are into humanities have the advantage of looking at the bigger picture and more prone to seeking the nature of reality. Albeit the modern slavery system is not interested in waking up people.
What a beautiful rational unknowing yet genius take on the fact that yes its all us dinosaurs aliens aunt Ida ....and us we are all the mirror and these stray reflections of craziness is impossible to piece back but then again if anyone can do it it's guys like u him and hoffman and kastrup and Deepak et al who knew the guitar player from blondie would be a genius what a great show u offer us Mish keep going baby !!!! ( I miss jorjani but I get it...he needs a xanax)
interesting.......without a connection to God, no meaning will exist for those people. Unfortunately religion is very abstract, it needs to be more connected to human experience. I am praying and yelling at God a lot!
The subject of near death experiences is difficult. I remain on the fence about this. On the one hand, the optimist in me hopes that there is something 'cosmic' and 'post mortal' to them. On the other hand, the pessimist in me is far less sure. The obsession these experiences have with keeping us here, ie in physical life, despite all talk in them to the contrary, is perturbing, if not actually disturbing. And then the content. Obviously, they are not literal. But how 'not literal' are they and what do we even mean by that? One NDEr is told we are here to "learn lessons" (a point of view which, I must confess, presses all the wrong buttons for me in all the wrong places). Another NDEr is told (and I'm not making this up) "there are no lessons to learn." Which one of these two people is correct? Or is the NDE something that applies only to that individual and thus doesn't have collective truth? One NDEr is told we all reincarnate hundreds of times. But is this *literally* true, or is it *psychologically* true for that particular individual? in other words, is it something that enables them to reinvest in their own biological life to be lived, but which isn't necessarily true in some objective philosophical sense. This is a thorny question about NDEs (and by extension similar experiences) and it has many branches, not all of which I'll plod through here. But for one example: the life review. It seems very ethical, but this is because most normal people have some exposure to the structure and experience of 'conscience'. There are some unique people, though (those with a psychopathic personality type) who do not even have a normally functioning conscience. It's not that they turn away from one - they just don't function that way to begin with. A person with a psychopathic personality type could kill someone and then watch the death process, fascinated. They might even take notes on that process. They would have none of the usual reactions of shock or remorse. You or I, and any normal person in that circumstance, would experience an adrenalin spike, your hands would shake, you would feel ill and you might actually vomit. Not so someone with a psychopathic personality type. Now the key question there is whether such a person would EVEN have an NDE in which there was some kind of ethical component, like a "life review" or whether that component actually extends in the first place from having a conscience (even if a suppressed or redirected one). We hear "redemption narratives" in NDE lore all the time, but so far I am not convinced that any of these actually refer to a true psychopathic personality, as defined by the AMA. It's similar to the question of whether the blind really see in these experiences and how that question can be answered. On the surface it seems like they can, but there's a devil in the details. I'm disappointed by the fact that a large scale hospital study aimed at actually demonstrating a paranormal element to NDEs entirely failed to do so. How long can that go on?
Thing is, you probably can't believe it until/unless you experience it. Then it's a matter of knowing, not believing. And it's so hard to articulate, and there are so many negative responses, that it's hard to come out of the closet Most experiences have no investment in another's belief. It's irrelevant. I have never tried to convince anyone. It's a waste of energy. Good luck with your journey.
@@amanitamuscaria7500 Sure, but there is *still* the issue of whether these experiences are philosophically true and not just psychologically true for the individual. To establish philosophical truth will require more than just ardent conviction on the part of the individual. I don't doubt for a second that a person's powerful experience seems 100% true to that person.
I think the value is found in the redundancy and patterns of NDE data. Public testimony is proven to have scientific value which Normative Science culture ignores for decades until it creates a Crisis (Thomas Kuhn) Much like Ufos( and 1700s meteorites)..too many testimonies exist to dismiss.
@@pcb8059 indeed. And they all have so much in common. Not all the same...I didn't have a life review for eg, but the end result of completely changing one's life/outlook is a constant. For me, it was the first dawning of "I am NOT this body. I'm something else". It can't help but make one curious. But it cannot be adequately described, although many make valiant efforts and I applaud them. Best wishes to you.
Its the ilusion we are born in we teach out of memory of oure parents because the als are made in this whit out no choise just take it whit out wondering who the ai is we are so teach love just love . I seen it al walking this earth to long seen to much and seen how the 1 in power alwase make history in there point of view . I say love is the best religion. We teach the world of those in power
Does he really think that people within religions don't have these "flips" and that they see no contradiction between the numinous experience and their faith? Kripal is looking at this from the perspective of a 21st century American with a prejudice against "religion"
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I'm 25 and these questions are all I think about
Good luck to you. You'll be lonely in life :-(
Not necessarily--lonely--there are alot of groups. Unity Churches, Spiritual Speakers, etc out there to support you !! Classes, podcasts, you'll be universally supported ❤
I remember that a physics professor I dated a couple of times was intrigued that I have seen ghosts. She never met a person who would admit to it. Being an engineer probably led credibility to my claims. Throughout my life I must have had over a dozen stranger, unexplainable events.
OK please tell us your most confident abnormal experience, Im coming from the pov that values and understands the authority of measurement and Naturalistic local cause amd effect paradigms. Im asking from the perspective obsessed with Anomalies that violate Normative Science but who values the empirical authority of Naturalism. Im critical of both cultures and dont dichotomize or value Us vs Them mentalities...thanks!
@@pcb8059 About a decade ago I saw a "Ghost Cat" in a cottage on Cape Cod. It appeared almost like a reflection in my glasses, and it was a black and white longhaired cat. After everybody went to bed, about half of the people there heard a cat scampering around the cottage throughout the night. There was no cat there, and strange things were know to happen in that cottage previously.
Yet another profound discussion w/ J. Kripal. I particularly liked his relaxed attitude toward causality, that it moves from the future to the past in many cases. He also makes good use of the inclusive idea that both/and is often more useful than either/or. Finally, it's a fact to me that we'll never get solid stories about the paranormal or a host of other things. The unsolved mysteries in life are the best ones to keep us humble!
Such a wonerfull conversation. I myself could give Jeffrey several experiences to ponder. Not that it would solve the riddle. I so appreciate New thinking allowed. Thanks gentlemen. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
huge fan of Jeff Kripal, always eloquent and composed.
Decent bloke
Great conversation. I've always been interested in the paranormal/super natural. I was brought up in christian household involving regular Sunday church attendance. By the time I was 20 I'd completed a move away from religion but if anything my interest in the bigger spiritual questions arose and interestingly was when unexplainable events started to happed which led me to joining a mediums development circle for a number of years. I read just about every book I could get my hands on for British mediums and for the last couple of years spent many hours reading/listening about NDEs and broader spiritual experiences.
Always great to hear Jeffrey Kripal !!! Please bring him back again and again !!!!
Absolutely loved this wonderful conversation ❤
I love this professor, thank you for inviting him onto your show. So much of what he says resonates with me so my psyche is experiencing a lot of relief. I won’t bore you with the ‘to do’s of the religious cult neighbors ‘communications’ I’m currently experiencing. I’m sure, in fact, that this is what a good proportion of the population also need to hear!
Kripal is da man!
I’m glad to see someone like Dr Kripal in a senior academic position at a serious university.
Need more Jeffreys in the world (both). Really at the forefront of new thinking.
"Religion is a big big story that people live inside of." wow, brilliant
What a wonderful chat!!! Thank you very much to both of you.
Fascinating perspectives on this Quest of ours. Love it, thank you.
Fantastic discussion!
lachman & kripal w/ in weeks of each other!? i'm going to get spoiled. thank you for featuring some of my favorite authors & thinkers. the show is always great, but these have been fantastic.
I love Kripal. He nails it!
Wonderful interview. While lIstening to it, I did not realize how the time went by, Thanks a lot. I would like to see these two Jeffries together more often. 😊💐
This was another great one Jeffery. It certainly contained some issues that I want to continue to think about. Thank you.
Hi
His totally right.
Every experiences,we never forget .
When i take pictures,things manifest even on some videos.
The most recent is unbelievable,
Around 9 pm,2 years ago winter time.
Sitting in my patio,during the confinement,nobody were outside and I saw walking across a young very skinny boy,wearing white pants ,shirt and jacket but two odds strange things.
He had a silver helmet on his head,how could he breathe and like having a hard time to walk normally,his head was tilting to the right and his foot at the same time. Few regular steps and then tilting,taking my coat,went downstairs,across there’s a park with a bridge and when reaching the bridge with closed doors,nobody was there.
It was not a form of a plasma but a real entity.helmet was silver,like a mirror but could see the face.
I wanted to help but it vanished.
His right with so many things.
We are all connected and we are not alone.
Cordially
Sorry couldn’t see the face
I absolutely loved so much of what Jeffrey Kripal said. I'm really looking forward to discovering more of his work.
Most people treat the energy, as an entity, that's what we go wrong. The power of imagination of creativity becomes meaning
Energy represents what something does, not what something is. But we make verbs into nouns and then talk about the nouns as if they actually exist in the physical world.
In magick or religious practice it makes much more sense to communicate with something using the idea of an entity rather than the idea of energy. They're both human constructed concepts though. It's just that one works in practice and the other one works only as a description.
Fascinating. Just fascinating. Reminds me of how in quantum physics you can either pinpoint the position or the function (wave or particle?) of the phenomenon you are studying, but not both at the same time. You try to pin down the paranormal, to measure an experience with precision, and you end up with something whose significance has been lost ... At least, the most vital part ... Because physics alone IS only a tool for measurement.
That Maslow/Eselen story sounds like Dean Radin being conjoured up by the guy in the next office who wanted to meet him, which he talked about with you when talking about his book Real Magick. I read btw. I've just finished Roland in Moonlight, by your interviewee David Bentley Hart, which was wonderful. I recommend it.
David Bentley Hart has not been interviewed on this channel.
@@NewThinkingAllowed oh sorry Jeff. It was Rupert Sheldrake's channel. David is wonderful. Right up your street, I should think. Lots of love ❤️
Thank you as always
One thing I got from this _wonderful_ interview is the idea that maybe the Dialectic:
thesis
antithesis
synthesis
is a barrier to understanding "The Phenomena". Dialectic has become a cognitive habit - if it wasn't always - that has reached its point of diminishing return. We _have to_ break it if we're gonna be able to solve the big problems that are plaguing us right now. The UAP Phenomenon won't allow us - mostly materialists - to find a large story that explains everything. Every time we think we've got it wrapped up, we find out something that breaks the narrative.
People right now are almost entirely doubling down on trying to find that synthesis. But that may just be digging us deeper into the hole. I think we need an alternative to Dialectic and other _antique_ epistemologies that includes everything that we are unaware of. *_Everything!_* What we are unaware of about the world "out there", of course. But most importantly, what we are unaware of about the worlds inside of us. This doesn't have to mean woo. Knowing myself well enuf to know why I prefer one narrative over another is not woo. It's just self-awareness. We keep wanting to anchor our narratives on stuff out there, but that's not where the resolution is. Our narratives are anchored inside of us. That's why we argue over narratives and no amount of "proof" will convince us or others to believe a different narrative. Denial is not a well-understood coping mechanism. Right now, denial is having its way with almost everyone and it's in the way of learning from new information.
Seeking truth about the Object cannot help us here. We need truth about the Subject.
It's all inside.
We have to break this habit.
Regarding the 1h mark, Matías De Stefano suggests there are 9 dimensions, and that the ones involved in communicating with us are on the 5th dimension. It's definitely very strange sounding, but once you accept that whatever way life/consciousness really works, its going to be much stranger than our usual waking reality.
Speaking of sound, I normally watch at 2x, but this time, in addition, for whatever reason I had the "Jon Hopkins - Music For Psychedelic Therapy" running in the background. It really gave the interview the right tone!
That was boss, truly uplifting.
But there is no a priori contradiction between traditional forms of religion and science either. There is a contradiction between fundamentalist-literalist interpretations of religion and science; but "traditional religion" is not the same as fundamentalist. The Catholic Church, for instance, sees no contradiction between faith and science once both are properly understood.
Ty
I’ve been questioning since I was 4 years old, and can’t imagine I’m the only one. Are you sure teens haven’t just matured out of it? It’s possible you’re underestimating them.
I was in my preteens. 4 is early. Have you thought about maybe reincarnation? They say at the young ages remember
I was questioning things like where was I before I was born and what exactly are thoughts when I was at that age too. Idk exactly what caused that, but it definitely wasn't midlife crisis. 😂
@@amandaterrio4823 I didn’t have any past life experiences, I just wanted answers about the existence of god and my Catholic dad couldn’t answer them. Nor did he like my questioning. 5 decades later, we’re still debating, less arguing and fighting about it though, only because I let him win now 😉 I will say my 2 year old granddaughter has me almost believing in reincarnation. She seems to be an old soul.
An honest witness.
thanks!
In Equador and Colòmbia, the Paqo are shamans that have been struck by lightning. You can not become a Paqo unless you are chosen.
All the materialistic advertising has created Consumerism as the ultimate goal. What can anyone expect? It's simple and nearly instantaneous.
Religion? No pazazz there!
It's a subtle and excellent point: materialism is not science and science is not materialist. Physics is the story of our interpretation of information (qualitative, binary, repeatable observables specifically), it's not whatever the information is itself... a description of description as Niels Bohr might say. It's very easy to slip into thinking that cosmology is reality and not a story. That doesn't mean it's 'wrong,' just as mathematics isn't wrong because it can never be consistent, complete, or decidable. In the end, science, through Gödel specifically, open the door to a much more awesome and infinite potential behind reality, even if a specific description is impossible. This subtle distinction is mostly unknown, even to 'scientists' and skeptic cynicism.
Thanks!! ✌️
the little laugh at the end from JK, it made me chuckle
The world of paranormal is soon going to make dinosaurs out of materialists.
Meaning. That was the focus of my first book “The Textbook of the Universe: The Genetic Ascent to God”. ❤️🔥 I developed a statistical scientific method to get traction on the idea explained in the book. A method of investigation of the phenomena. It’s a statistical archaeology in a sense.
I tried to tell Francis Crick a long time ago when he was still here about the primacy of meaning but he was just too materialist. It was vexing because when I first contacted him, he said I would be “amused to know” that when he opened my paper “MEANING” was written in large letters on the blackboard behind his desk… 😂 but his materialistic view was extremely important to highlight and frame what IS meaningful. At least that’s how I see it.
Yes! There are real truthful stories and then there are ignorant ones and then nefarious ignorant ones… I also show how to discern them. It’s important because our lives depend on it. Anyway thanks for this. Love you guys. Awesome as usual.
Jeffrey is so skilled at seeing and steering and prospecting for the “Gold” in his guests. It indicates a higher viewpoint and he himself is of unbelievably high value for that mutant skill, for the connectivity of his soul. 🥰Definitely going to look into those books from the other Jeffrey ❤️🔥🙏🏻
Did the dead radio set play Midnight, and the Stars and You by AL Bowlly and his Orchestra???
And also Jack Nicholson was at the bar , asking Lloyd for some hair of the dog that bit him
75, Jeff? No way! Must be that NM air...
Fabulous. So much of this resonated with the trauma of my experiences which led to my spiritual Epiphany. I have come from a hardcore materialist atheist stance to being an open-minded observer of things that leave me in awe. Thank you. I needed this.
You have a problem on this episode, with your mic Jeffery.
I do hope you sorted it out- it was picking up movement noise.
Also the quality is weak and maybe a more expensive model might be worth investing in. Certainly mic placement needed addressing.
If its a headset combo I would recommend replacement.
Give this man a super Nobel, and give Maslov one also.
According to Timothy Leary's autobiography, "Flashbacks," Maslow admitted that he had never actually had a peak experience.
I just try too do the best I can. Problems occur when society pigeonholes and stereotypes people, like why does TH-cam think I only want to see ads with black people in them. A rhetorical question.
I feel like where trying to fit a square peg in a round hole
Absolutely. If you want to learn philosophy, you should study Ancient Greek!!! That's hard.
I studied political science when I was in my 20s, always thought science people are smarter. In my 30s I study chemistry, I live with people who have PhDs in physics, chemistry and math. All I can say that people who are into humanities have the advantage of looking at the bigger picture and more prone to seeking the nature of reality. Albeit the modern slavery system is not interested in waking up people.
What a beautiful rational unknowing yet genius take on the fact that yes its all us dinosaurs aliens aunt Ida ....and us we are all the mirror and these stray reflections of craziness is impossible to piece back but then again if anyone can do it it's guys like u him and hoffman and kastrup and Deepak et al who knew the guitar player from blondie would be a genius what a great show u offer us Mish keep going baby !!!! ( I miss jorjani but I get it...he needs a xanax)
Is the WEF Great Reset of 2030 a flip?
interesting.......without a connection to God, no meaning will exist for those people. Unfortunately religion is very
abstract, it needs to be more connected to human experience. I am praying and yelling at God a lot!
On belief: "If my students really did know science, they wouldn't say such silly things."🦉🌈☑
Only "illogical" events can wise us up, but not even saints know where these events come from.
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The subject of near death experiences is difficult. I remain on the fence about this. On the one hand, the optimist in me hopes that there is something 'cosmic' and 'post mortal' to them. On the other hand, the pessimist in me is far less sure. The obsession these experiences have with keeping us here, ie in physical life, despite all talk in them to the contrary, is perturbing, if not actually disturbing.
And then the content. Obviously, they are not literal. But how 'not literal' are they and what do we even mean by that? One NDEr is told we are here to "learn lessons" (a point of view which, I must confess, presses all the wrong buttons for me in all the wrong places). Another NDEr is told (and I'm not making this up) "there are no lessons to learn." Which one of these two people is correct? Or is the NDE something that applies only to that individual and thus doesn't have collective truth? One NDEr is told we all reincarnate hundreds of times. But is this *literally* true, or is it *psychologically* true for that particular individual? in other words, is it something that enables them to reinvest in their own biological life to be lived, but which isn't necessarily true in some objective philosophical sense.
This is a thorny question about NDEs (and by extension similar experiences) and it has many branches, not all of which I'll plod through here. But for one example: the life review. It seems very ethical, but this is because most normal people have some exposure to the structure and experience of 'conscience'. There are some unique people, though (those with a psychopathic personality type) who do not even have a normally functioning conscience. It's not that they turn away from one - they just don't function that way to begin with. A person with a psychopathic personality type could kill someone and then watch the death process, fascinated. They might even take notes on that process. They would have none of the usual reactions of shock or remorse. You or I, and any normal person in that circumstance, would experience an adrenalin spike, your hands would shake, you would feel ill and you might actually vomit. Not so someone with a psychopathic personality type. Now the key question there is whether such a person would EVEN have an NDE in which there was some kind of ethical component, like a "life review" or whether that component actually extends in the first place from having a conscience (even if a suppressed or redirected one). We hear "redemption narratives" in NDE lore all the time, but so far I am not convinced that any of these actually refer to a true psychopathic personality, as defined by the AMA. It's similar to the question of whether the blind really see in these experiences and how that question can be answered. On the surface it seems like they can, but there's a devil in the details.
I'm disappointed by the fact that a large scale hospital study aimed at actually demonstrating a paranormal element to NDEs entirely failed to do so. How long can that go on?
Thing is, you probably can't believe it until/unless you experience it. Then it's a matter of knowing, not believing. And it's so hard to articulate, and there are so many negative responses, that it's hard to come out of the closet Most experiences have no investment in another's belief. It's irrelevant. I have never tried to convince anyone. It's a waste of energy. Good luck with your journey.
@@amanitamuscaria7500 Sure, but there is *still* the issue of whether these experiences are philosophically true and not just psychologically true for the individual. To establish philosophical truth will require more than just ardent conviction on the part of the individual. I don't doubt for a second that a person's powerful experience seems 100% true to that person.
@@greensleeves7165 good luck with your quest.
I think the value is found in the redundancy and patterns of NDE data.
Public testimony is proven to have scientific value which Normative Science culture ignores for decades until it creates a Crisis (Thomas Kuhn) Much like Ufos( and 1700s meteorites)..too many testimonies exist to dismiss.
@@pcb8059 indeed. And they all have so much in common. Not all the same...I didn't have a life review for eg, but the end result of completely changing one's life/outlook is a constant. For me, it was the first dawning of "I am NOT this body. I'm something else". It can't help but make one curious. But it cannot be adequately described, although many make valiant efforts and I applaud them. Best wishes to you.
Its the ilusion we are born in we teach out of memory of oure parents because the als are made in this whit out no choise just take it whit out wondering who the ai is we are so teach love just love . I seen it al walking this earth to long seen to much and seen how the 1 in power alwase make history in there point of view . I say love is the best religion. We teach the world of those in power
Does he really think that people within religions don't have these "flips" and that they see no contradiction between the numinous experience and their faith? Kripal is looking at this from the perspective of a 21st century American with a prejudice against "religion"
Exactly great point..
Your comment is one of the reasons why I like to scroll through a little bit BEFORE I listen to some interviews .. much appreciated
This is one interview. If you read any of his books there are an abundance of accounts of
Experiences within organised religions.