I re-watched this now that I'm further along on my bag journey. There's a lot of info packed into this vid!!! There's stuff I missed the first time around! Thanks for all the work and perspective you put into bag reviews! It's really interesting to see the difference in design philosophy and design choices of different manufacturers! Everything is intentional and they made choices and trade-offs.
Exactly. One of my first bags, the Tortuga Air, I didn't like because of the laptop sleeve position and a few other design choices. But then after years of traveling and trying new bags, I actually like that bag a lot more now because other bags have similar or worse design features. There are a lot of tradeoffs and often a bag that creates a feature you like will cause another feature to be worse. There are a lot of tradeoffs and it's impossible to have everything you want in one pack.
The greatest thing about compression straps imho is that they relieve pressure on the zippers. The second best thing about compression straps is that you can now easily temporarily attach stuff to the outside of your bag, say a light jacket if it's suddenly warm and the bag itself is already packed to capacity.
Your fantastic…. I’ve had several personal bags in the ($100-200) range.. My 2 all time bags that are my 100% favorite are: 1) Osprey Porter 30 The older model..It’s far better then the newer version.. 2) Knack Bag Small (Blue) I use that daily and it’s by far the best everyday small bag you can buy.. It holds my Apple MacBook 13 Air and it has a lot of organized pockets.. Blessings Greg
I'm assuming you have the Series 1 Knack Pack? I haven't tried the latest update, but I think it only comes in Large and Medium for now. The Osprey Daylite 26+6 is a solid option for a personal item sized pack too, but not an EDC bag. It would have made it into this video but I didn't have it yet.
Haha, the wood box is awesome. Great review as always. Looking forward to the packing episode. It's gonna be einteredting to see the real aka prsctical volume
Love your reviews! I’m considering the Osprey Daylight 26+6 for that added versatility. What makes it not good enough for this list? I also considered the Patagonia MLC 30L, but I realize that I might risk not being able to squeeze that one in as a personal item.
Really helpful video! It would be valuable to compare weight as well. Many countries (pretty much all of Asia and Australia for instance) have weight limits in addition to size restrictions and weigh all bags at the gate, so it's essential to have a light-weight pack.
This was a fantastic review. Really looking forward to your next video. Looking at the dimensions on the website, I didn't think the aer would fit under the seat. The box test is a brilliant idea. I wish more reviewers would do something like that.
Love your detailed packing demos and please please please do a review on the underseat pro backpack, I'm really shocked you haven't done a review on that bag, it fits in both the frontier and spirits personal items sizers perfectly
Awesome video. For my personal item I use the Topo Designs Core Pack, Patagonia Tres and Timbuk2 Jet Pack. I also have the Arcido Axon but it does not hold as much as the previously mentioned bags.
I have a Kanken & it works great! I have taken it on trips, & also just use it to take with me to the store, shopping! For me it's just the right size.
Great video, plan to take a trip to Germany next year and want to take a carry on and a personal bag. This video gives me a lot of good ideas, thanks !
Thanks, buddy! You are one of the FEW here who do not seem to be a "scheister"! I know you have to make money, and advertise. Of course, you do. But, you are not like the others! I will subscribe and like. These packs are for going under the seat, right? I want to take a "carry on" and a personal item bag. Not fair that women seem to be able to take a purse with all this!!
Thanks, I try not to be a sheister =) Yes these bags are under the seat, but most of them are bordering on being too large, so you need to make sure not to overpack.
Me too! I used to live near an airport and I would sometimes run down there and see if my bag fit in the bin. It's nice having your own at home though, and it helps with the review videos =)
@@OneBagTravels I’ve heard of people running down to the airport to check. I might have to steal your idea and make one of these boxes for home. Thanks again!!
at the time of watching Patagonia Tres 25 - sold out Cabinzero Military 28 - sold out Aer Travel Pack 2 Small - sold out Evergood CPL 24 - sold out Interesting times
Sheesh, I know companies are having supply chain issues but that's kind of ridiculous! Sometimes you can sign up for a notification when the bag is back in stock. I did that with Patagonia, they were sold out of almost everything, I got it a few weeks later when it came in.
@@OneBagTravels Thanks for that tip. On the upside they are not discontinued altogether unlike the MED Vapour bag... Cotopaxi has a direct relationship to the factory manufacturing its bags in the Philippines, and even has a picture of it on the website. Who knew that treating people well insulated you from supply shocks!
Since I want a water bottle holder on the outside and am looking for a personal travel backpack with a suitcase style, I feel like I am down to the Osprey Daylight, Aer Travel Pack 3 Small, and the Thule Aion 28L. It feels really hard to decide thought. Thanks for all the info!
Please do a review for the north face base camp duffel XS, I feel that's one of the one of the most slept on duffel packs that can be versatile especially as a personal item
@@OneBagTravels please do! Lol I'm shocked as well that there's not many reviews on the base camp duffel as well but I done traveled with it alot that I used it as a personal item with spirit, jetblue, delta and frontier even tho with frontier it's a bit more risky cause their personal item sizers are slightly tighter cause they're more anal about their bag policies but the base camp duffel proved to be good in those cases if packed right, I feel it's a bit better than that Cotopaxi alpa 28l with an inch shorter in length, slight bigger in depth and width but soft enough to squish along with compression straps to compress the bag even more
Hi I really like your videos really good info. I’m looking for a bag that I can you use as a personal item bag and a weekend trip bag. I’m between the Thule Aion 28l and the Cotopaxi Allpa 28l. Which one would you recommend?
@@OneBagTravels Any chances this video is in the works? I'm looking for a bag for EDC and travel through airlines like Ryanair and am very curious what would my options be.
@@OneBagTravels ah fair enough. Hope you have a great trip! In the meantime I think I found something that may suit my needs at least at first glance : DSPTCH Mini Utility Ruck from the dimensions it seems it will fit RyanAir and similar smaller sized personal items airlines. Thanks for swift response!
I'd like to do an Island Hopper vs Cotopaxi Allpa video, same bag but $70 cheaper. Bento bag isn't really my style but I might check it out, thanks for the suggestion.
Thanks for the awesome review, any reason ULA Dragonfly did not make the cut? I saw your review before, any thoughts compared to the packs reviewed here?
I was looking for packs that were under the personal item size. The Dragonfly is a great pack but it's a little long at 19.5". However you could probably get away with it as a personal item, it doesn't look big and I doubt an airline would check. I like the Dragonfly more now that they removed the logo and added some new colors. Still one of my favorite minimalist packs, just a tad large for this video.
I don't look at much wheeled luggage, but I'd look at Osprey. They make great packs and some of their wheeled luggage looks good, like the Farpoint wheeled Travel Pack, it's wheeled but can be worn as a backpack. Wheeled Transporter looks good too.
I commented on another video I'm looking at the Cabin Zero. Then while watching this video I was interested in a different one. That is, until I checked the price. Ouch, I guess I'm staying with the cabin zero
Cabin Zero makes great packs, very high quality for the price imo. Another option for you could be a packable daypack, like the Aer Go Pack 2. It's small enough to fit in your carry-on when it's empty, but allows you to have a nice sturdy daypack for EDC. Also it's a good to pack light when you leave, and have an option for overflow for extra snacks, souveniers etc. on your return flight.
Since it's been a year, any updated recommendations? I've searched all over youtube and honestly, I like the fact it's dedicated to 18x14x8. You'd get a lot more hits if you updated the title as it seems like people are looking for this size, vs international smaller versions.
I'd add the Osprey Expandable 26+6, ULA Dragonfly, Patagonia Black Hole pack, and REI Ruckpack 28. I agree that people are looking for under the seat 18x14x8 bags. I think I need an updated video, and acually a few of these are technically over those dimensions, but can fit if underpacked.
@@OneBagTravels Thanks for the update. I'm not sure the Patagonia is worth the extra $ ?? over the Osprey. Thoughts on Osprey 30? I've read that as long as it's not extremely overpacked it will work. I wish they had the same compression on the 26+6 which is hard to find at the moment, my other conern is I wish it actually had a dedicated laptop area instead of a zipper into the jain compartment, the 30 solves this a think. I just need to ensure it fits. :) I also sent you an email. I assume you own the website. Incredible data, it would be amazing if that was searchable base on size and a few other of your valuable data points.
@@christaylor9895 The Osprey Porter 30? I haven't tried it as a personal item only, but I've also heard it will work. It's a decent pack, not a great carry system but the 30L isn't very big so not as much of an issue. You can search my bag table, I have categories for laptop size and style. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xIMBaSlyFbQ7FSU5nKXn8VICaOkASUOR9HaKxRYAheE/edit?usp=sharing
Thanks! ULA Dragonfly is great if you want something very lightweight and minimalist and don't need a lot of extra bells and whistles. I have a good comparison video here that includes the Dragonfly. th-cam.com/video/XinTvIESOIY/w-d-xo.html
@@OneBagTravels Thank you, I'll check the video out! Generally speaking, are ultralight bags more comfortable than their heavier counterparts? I don't particularly care about weight, but I'd be happy to shed the extra pounds and go for a more minimalist option if it would be more comfortable.
@@FadilKarim I'd say generally speaking ultralight bags are less comfortable because they use less materials and padding for the shoulder straps and back padding on the bag. Ultralight bags rely more on good design to make a pack comfortable because they can't rely on just a thickly padded shoulder strap. Some bags do well with this like the Dragonfly, it's a small pack, but they managed to make it decently comfortable with fewer materials.
Thanks for the video, so many great options ! I was also looking at the Tortuga outbreaker laptop backpack, is there a reason it wasn't in the comparison ? Would you say it's less good then the ones presented here ?
Probably, but check the airline's dimensions because they're all different. That bag is a little tall but it looks soft so as long as you don't pack it full it should fit.
Most European airlines have strict size and weight limits on personal item bags, typically 2 kg. As such be careful if you come here and intend to take short haul flights on European carriers. Those bags empty have near on half your weight limit so you won't be able to carry much in them. Additionally they are obviously far larger than your approved laptop case size so they are going to attract the attention of the gate agents.
2kg is a little low. Most allow 7-12 kg personal item, for example RyanAir has a 10kg limit. But yes, European budget airlines tend to be more restrictive than US airlines. There aren't any standards for personal item sizes and I'm not trying to imply all of these bags will work as a personal item on all airlines. Many of these bags will fit many US airline sizers, but not the more restrictive budget European airlines, for example RyanAir (40x25x20 cm).
@@OneBagTravels I stand corrected although TAP has a 2kg limit and others have combined carry on/personal item limits. All I am saying is that people should aware that the limits here are generally less generous that US carriers.
The Cabin Zero Military is almost perfect. I just need them to finally fix the laptop compartment. It'll be a $2 of added material for some padding, false bottom, and a velcro lock. That's it. I don't want the Tech. I want the military with an internal laptop compartment. It's either that or the updated Osprey 26+6.
Hi, Geoff, I hope you received my " coffee donation" ! Are you comfortable with telling me which brand/size you like best for my "personal items bag"? I will be flying on British Airways, and can't find dimensions for this on their site. I know you like the green Cotopaxi Alpha there. It is fantastic. I would like to spend around $100, but the $170 for the Coto might be OK. I will not be using my personal items bag much at all. Perhaps maybe 3 or 4 times in my life. Thanks, Joey Also, I will not be taking my laptop. I hope this gives you an idea of what I need. And, I trust you for simply telling me what you recommend.
This is the British Airways site Cabin Bag: 56 x 45 x 25cm (22 x 18 x 10in) Hang Bag: 40 x 30 x 15cm (16 x 12 x 6in) www.britishairways.com/en-us/information/baggage-essentials That's a pretty small hand bag, I don't think any of the bags in this video are that small. I don't even know if I own a bag that small, it's basically a small daypack. The Cabin bag can be basically anything, that's quite a large bag. Cotopaxi is good if you like the clamshell style. A good budget brand is Cabin Zero, most of their bags have a very simple design, but they're good quality for the price, and tend to be pretty inexpensive. I think the Military 28 is
@@OneBagTravels Buddy, thanks so much for all this info! I'll think of you when I'm in England! gotta have another cup of coffee on me!!! Thanks, Geoff.
@@OneBagTravels I think only the length is slightly larger than British Airways require. This thing of "fear" or stress at being in the airport and having then say, "Sorry! Go back!!" is awful. I probably will try to go with something actually less than what the requirements are. You are helping me a great deal, Geoff. Thanks, Joey
@@josephcollins6033 Just put the bag on your opposite shoulder and walk throught like nothing. The won't turn you away, worst case they gate check your bag or charge you extra. Not the end of the world.
@@ootz0rzIt's more the size, 24L is much easier in warm areas because you don't need to pack as much. It would be much more difficult if you needed to fit a jacket in there. Good point on the air ventilation though. It's not great on this pack, but that isn't usually the highest consideration on my list. I'd much rather have a comfortable, well made pack with great organization. My back will get sweaty either way, just slightly less quickly if it has good ventilation.
@@OneBagTravels gotcha, fair enough when considering hot+humid destinations on the ventilation! I've been looking for a good all-around day-bag lately and have found myself fixating on strap/back ventilation, but perhaps it's not as big of a deal as it is in my head. Currently considering the Aer Flight Pack 3, Boundary Supply Stasis Sling, Boundary Supply Errant Sling, Mission Workshop Spar Sling, and Alpaka Bravo X Sling. Have experience with any of them? I was considering having something I can toss my iPad + airpod max into during the flight... and then use during the day at my destination. This being separate from my normal main carry-on bag (Peak Design Travel 40L) The flight pack is a bit of an outlier as it's the biggest and a backpack. But I could use it as a daily bag for when I'm working remotely and heading to cafes and such too which is appealing; getting more use out of it!
I’m sorry to report that they are all too big for travel to or within Europe. Even major airlines like Lufthansa, now list size limits for personal item (30x40x10cm or 80cm total).
Yes, my criteria is 18x14x8" (46x36x20cm) which is a common personal size limit in the US. But many airlines are much smaller, especially European carriers. I'm flying Airbondi next week (40x30x20 limit) and I'm worried my bag is just a little too large 😣 I'd like to do another post sometime looking at bags that fit these types of smaller personal size limits.
Great video, very informative. Curious if you have any information on any of these packs: COR Surf Island Hopper 28L Db Ramverk 26L Solo Grand Travel TSA Tucano Tugo Thanks again. Always in search of the perfect personal item!
COR Surf Island Hopper is an almost exact knock-off of the Cotopaxi Allpa. I've never tried it, but it's $70 cheaper, could be worth trying but risky because you don't know about the company. I've never heard of the DB Ramverk 26L, it looks interesting, kind of heavy (3.5 lbs) for a 26L pack though. I haven't tried anything from Solo, they have a lot of laptop pack options. I get the impression their packs are lower on the quality scale, but again I havent tested them. Tucano is another brand I haven't tried. They have so many packs it's kind of overwhelming, the Tugo is the only one that seems like it would work for travel, reminds me of packs from Cabin Zero, simply made with decent quality.
@@OneBagTravels Thanks for your response. I ordered an Island Hopper to see if the quality is anywhere near Cotopaxi and will report back. Db looks interesting for the top pouch; company used to be called DoucheBags (yes, really).
@@OneBagTravels I just got back from a trip using the Island Hopper 28. It was very good, but not sure if it's a keeper for me. It's pretty close to a Cotopaxi Allpa 28 clone. I can't tell the zipper brand or fabric speifics, but everything felt sturdy. Outside zippers were smooth, inside zippers are tiny - I would add pulls if I keep it. The pack isn't terribly rigid, which is good for overstuffing, but if you do, it makes the laptop section hard to close, so always pack that first. The hidden storage pouches on the back are small, but perfect for travel docs/money, and the bottom one is very well hidden under the luggage strap. Fit under seat on Southwest flights without an issue. Nice having a water bottle holder - fits at most a 24oz plastic bottle you'd get at 7-11, but not a thicker thermos style bottle, Biggest problems for me were the backpack straps. They were not comfortable and I always had a hard time cinching them tighter against my frame. The chest strap wasn't big enough and too tight on me, and no hip belt. Also, straps can't tuck into bag. The luggage strap was useful, but it's a little thin and the bag would wobble a bit when moved on top of roller bag. Wish it had handles on all sides. Nitpick for me is that the outside color options are just okay, but I appreciated for the black bag the interior is lime green and easier to find things. I think I'll end up with an Allpa 28 or 35 - bag is strictly for maximizing personal item volume and not for walking around.
The only one of these packs that comes with a shoulder strap is the Patagonia Tres. However it's discontinued. The new version of the Mini MLC is similar, also comes with a shoulder strap.
@@OneBagTravels You showed the sizing box in this video. Also said you'd make a seperate vid physically fitting the bags in it in another video bc this one was "a bit long".🤔🤔
Many of the viewers wanna see the largest packed bags (like the osprey porter 46) fit into the smallest dimensions like... the Frontier airlines personal item container, since the all-you-can-fly deal 'everyone' purchased starts in May. Wait, do any these companies compensate you in any way for content?
@@Chupabrah Osprey 46 won't fit in a personal item sizer. I buy most of the gear myself but occasionally companies send me gear to review. I don't take money or compensation for reviews though.
Idk man, not sure if I would risk trying to board with both a rolling carry on and a 28 backpack…would hate to have the agent force me to check one of them, especially if I have valuables in them which I usually do… For me, 25L is about my limit for a personal item.
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Love that you built your own sizing box. That's actually super helpful to see.
Thanks!
I re-watched this now that I'm further along on my bag journey. There's a lot of info packed into this vid!!! There's stuff I missed the first time around! Thanks for all the work and perspective you put into bag reviews!
It's really interesting to see the difference in design philosophy and design choices of different manufacturers! Everything is intentional and they made choices and trade-offs.
Exactly. One of my first bags, the Tortuga Air, I didn't like because of the laptop sleeve position and a few other design choices. But then after years of traveling and trying new bags, I actually like that bag a lot more now because other bags have similar or worse design features. There are a lot of tradeoffs and often a bag that creates a feature you like will cause another feature to be worse. There are a lot of tradeoffs and it's impossible to have everything you want in one pack.
Your videos are like a well-packed bag - so much good stuff in so little space, and well-organized! 👏👏👏
Thanks 😊
One of the best reviews out there. Organized and straight to the point!
Thanks! 😊
The greatest thing about compression straps imho is that they relieve pressure on the zippers.
The second best thing about compression straps is that you can now easily temporarily attach stuff to the outside of your bag, say a light jacket if it's suddenly warm and the bag itself is already packed to capacity.
Great points, compression straps are indeed handy
Man that Cotopaxi bag seriously looks so good
It is good! Did you see the review? th-cam.com/video/nnd8-DJPOsY/w-d-xo.html
Your fantastic….
I’ve had several personal bags in the ($100-200) range..
My 2 all time bags that are my 100% favorite are:
1) Osprey Porter 30
The older model..It’s far better then the newer version..
2) Knack Bag Small (Blue)
I use that daily and it’s by far the best everyday small bag you can buy.. It holds my Apple MacBook 13 Air and it has a lot of organized pockets..
Blessings Greg
I'm assuming you have the Series 1 Knack Pack? I haven't tried the latest update, but I think it only comes in Large and Medium for now. The Osprey Daylite 26+6 is a solid option for a personal item sized pack too, but not an EDC bag. It would have made it into this video but I didn't have it yet.
Haha, the wood box is awesome.
Great review as always. Looking forward to the packing episode. It's gonna be einteredting to see the real aka prsctical volume
The box was fun to make =) They all fit in the box, but some of them are kind of a squeeze 😬
Love your reviews! I’m considering the Osprey Daylight 26+6 for that added versatility. What makes it not good enough for this list? I also considered the Patagonia MLC 30L, but I realize that I might risk not being able to squeeze that one in as a personal item.
This video is 3 years old so the 26+6 hadn't come out yet, otherwise I would have included it.
Great video. Thank you. Do you think the Cotopaxi 35 also fit as personal item??
It's a carry on but a little too big a personal item for most airlines
Somewhat unrelated: it's thanks to your review of the MEC 35L Vapour Overnight that I enjoyed a trip this weekend with it being my 'one bag.'
Awesome! Hope it went great, glad I could be of help =)
Really helpful video! It would be valuable to compare weight as well. Many countries (pretty much all of Asia and Australia for instance) have weight limits in addition to size restrictions and weigh all bags at the gate, so it's essential to have a light-weight pack.
Great point, weight is very important, I put the specs in the description but don't really go into tha in the video
A lot of work went into this video!
Indeed, thanks!
This was a fantastic review. Really looking forward to your next video. Looking at the dimensions on the website, I didn't think the aer would fit under the seat. The box test is a brilliant idea. I wish more reviewers would do something like that.
Thanks! It fits but it's tight 😀
Love your detailed packing demos and please please please do a review on the underseat pro backpack, I'm really shocked you haven't done a review on that bag, it fits in both the frontier and spirits personal items sizers perfectly
It's on my list but will take me a bit to get around to it, I have a stack of bags in the queue 😆
@@OneBagTravels I can only imagine lol and I look forward to when you get to it 😎 and don't forget about the north face base camp duffel XS
Awesome video. For my personal item I use the Topo Designs Core Pack, Patagonia Tres and Timbuk2 Jet Pack. I also have the Arcido Axon but it does not hold as much as the previously mentioned bags.
There are so many good options, I had a hard time narrowing it down to a reasonalbe number of packs for a video! 😣
I have a Kanken & it works great! I have taken it on trips, & also just use it to take with me to the store, shopping! For me it's just the right size.
Kanken is a good pack, maybe it will make it on my next update!
Great video, plan to take a trip to Germany next year and want to take a carry on and a personal bag. This video gives me a lot of good ideas, thanks !
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for your consistently excellent content!
Thanks, glad you liked it =)
Thanks, buddy! You are one of the FEW here who do not seem to be a "scheister"! I know you have to make money, and advertise. Of course, you do. But, you are not like the others! I will subscribe and like. These packs are for going under the seat, right? I want to take a "carry on" and a personal item bag. Not fair that women seem to be able to take a purse with all this!!
Thanks, I try not to be a sheister =) Yes these bags are under the seat, but most of them are bordering on being too large, so you need to make sure not to overpack.
Love the box idea!
Me too! I used to live near an airport and I would sometimes run down there and see if my bag fit in the bin. It's nice having your own at home though, and it helps with the review videos =)
@@OneBagTravels I’ve heard of people running down to the airport to check. I might have to steal your idea and make one of these boxes for home. Thanks again!!
Thank you. Very helpful to see the Cabin Zero as WestJet (Canada) has a personal item allowance of 16” x 13” x 6”
Cabin Zero does a great job making packs designed to fit as personal items
I have the 27L greenroom 136 rainmaker. It worked like a champ on frontier.
I need to add this bag to my collection.
at the time of watching
Patagonia Tres 25 - sold out
Cabinzero Military 28 - sold out
Aer Travel Pack 2 Small - sold out
Evergood CPL 24 - sold out
Interesting times
Sheesh, I know companies are having supply chain issues but that's kind of ridiculous! Sometimes you can sign up for a notification when the bag is back in stock. I did that with Patagonia, they were sold out of almost everything, I got it a few weeks later when it came in.
@@OneBagTravels Thanks for that tip.
On the upside they are not discontinued altogether unlike the MED Vapour bag...
Cotopaxi has a direct relationship to the factory manufacturing its bags in the Philippines, and even has a picture of it on the website.
Who knew that treating people well insulated you from supply shocks!
Bunch of Cabin Zero bags back in stock FYI
@@OneBagTravels thank you!
Since I want a water bottle holder on the outside and am looking for a personal travel backpack with a suitcase style, I feel like I am down to the Osprey Daylight, Aer Travel Pack 3 Small, and the Thule Aion 28L. It feels really hard to decide thought. Thanks for all the info!
Those are all great packs, took the Aion 28 to Argentina last year, worked great for me
Hello there, good comparsion and in Like the Box. Good Video. 🤘
Thanks! 😀
Please do a review for the north face base camp duffel XS, I feel that's one of the one of the most slept on duffel packs that can be versatile especially as a personal item
Interesting that there aren't many reviews on this, guess I'll have to do one!
@@OneBagTravels please do! Lol I'm shocked as well that there's not many reviews on the base camp duffel as well but I done traveled with it alot that I used it as a personal item with spirit, jetblue, delta and frontier even tho with frontier it's a bit more risky cause their personal item sizers are slightly tighter cause they're more anal about their bag policies but the base camp duffel proved to be good in those cases if packed right, I feel it's a bit better than that Cotopaxi alpa 28l with an inch shorter in length, slight bigger in depth and width but soft enough to squish along with compression straps to compress the bag even more
Hi I really like your videos really good info. I’m looking for a bag that I can you use as a personal item bag and a weekend trip bag. I’m between the Thule Aion 28l and the Cotopaxi Allpa 28l. Which one would you recommend?
Those are both good, I tend to like the Aion design better. Osprey 26+2 is good too.
I would love to see a video of you using the size of the Ryanair sizer dimensions as the measurement
I like this idea too. A Ryan Air approved box and review of bags that fit I think would be awesome.
@@OneBagTravels Any chances this video is in the works? I'm looking for a bag for EDC and travel through airlines like Ryanair and am very curious what would my options be.
@@HangmansWalk not yet, I'm in Ecuador right now and have a pile of gear to review when I get back. It may be a few months until I can get to this
@@OneBagTravels ah fair enough. Hope you have a great trip! In the meantime I think I found something that may suit my needs at least at first glance :
DSPTCH Mini Utility Ruck
from the dimensions it seems it will fit RyanAir and similar smaller sized personal items airlines. Thanks for swift response!
Great review! Have you ever tested the Nomad Lane Bento Bag or the CorSurf Island Hopper Travel Backpack? Thanks.
I'd like to do an Island Hopper vs Cotopaxi Allpa video, same bag but $70 cheaper. Bento bag isn't really my style but I might check it out, thanks for the suggestion.
@@OneBagTravels My wife would be interested. Bento is not my style either, but if you want female subscribers.....
Like a recommendation for backpacks that fit under the airplane seat please. Thanks.
The bags in this video are all great!
Thanks for the awesome review, any reason ULA Dragonfly did not make the cut? I saw your review before, any thoughts compared to the packs reviewed here?
I was looking for packs that were under the personal item size. The Dragonfly is a great pack but it's a little long at 19.5". However you could probably get away with it as a personal item, it doesn't look big and I doubt an airline would check. I like the Dragonfly more now that they removed the logo and added some new colors. Still one of my favorite minimalist packs, just a tad large for this video.
@@OneBagTravels Thank you for the reply, going to order mine soon. =)
Please suggest a personal item size compliant bag with 2 wheels. Purpose: for use as wheels for a carry on duffel + a small bag to store under seat.
I don't look at much wheeled luggage, but I'd look at Osprey. They make great packs and some of their wheeled luggage looks good, like the Farpoint wheeled Travel Pack, it's wheeled but can be worn as a backpack. Wheeled Transporter looks good too.
I commented on another video I'm looking at the Cabin Zero. Then while watching this video I was interested in a different one. That is, until I checked the price. Ouch, I guess I'm staying with the cabin zero
Cabin Zero makes great packs, very high quality for the price imo. Another option for you could be a packable daypack, like the Aer Go Pack 2. It's small enough to fit in your carry-on when it's empty, but allows you to have a nice sturdy daypack for EDC. Also it's a good to pack light when you leave, and have an option for overflow for extra snacks, souveniers etc. on your return flight.
Since it's been a year, any updated recommendations? I've searched all over youtube and honestly, I like the fact it's dedicated to 18x14x8. You'd get a lot more hits if you updated the title as it seems like people are looking for this size, vs international smaller versions.
I'd add the Osprey Expandable 26+6, ULA Dragonfly, Patagonia Black Hole pack, and REI Ruckpack 28. I agree that people are looking for under the seat 18x14x8 bags. I think I need an updated video, and acually a few of these are technically over those dimensions, but can fit if underpacked.
@@OneBagTravels Thanks for the update. I'm not sure the Patagonia is worth the extra $ ?? over the Osprey. Thoughts on Osprey 30? I've read that as long as it's not extremely overpacked it will work. I wish they had the same compression on the 26+6 which is hard to find at the moment, my other conern is I wish it actually had a dedicated laptop area instead of a zipper into the jain compartment, the 30 solves this a think. I just need to ensure it fits. :) I also sent you an email. I assume you own the website. Incredible data, it would be amazing if that was searchable base on size and a few other of your valuable data points.
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The Osprey Porter 30? I haven't tried it as a personal item only, but I've also heard it will work. It's a decent pack, not a great carry system but the 30L isn't very big so not as much of an issue. You can search my bag table, I have categories for laptop size and style.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xIMBaSlyFbQ7FSU5nKXn8VICaOkASUOR9HaKxRYAheE/edit?usp=sharing
check out the North Face Base Camp Duffel XS - I cannot believe how much I can fit in that little bag
I would love to see a review of the MEI Voyageur Mini, it is a similar size.
I haven't reviewed that one yet but you're the second person to mention it this week, so now it's on my list!
I recently discovered your channel and i enjoy how thorough your content is! How do you think the ULA Ultra Dragonfly would compare to these options?
Thanks! ULA Dragonfly is great if you want something very lightweight and minimalist and don't need a lot of extra bells and whistles. I have a good comparison video here that includes the Dragonfly. th-cam.com/video/XinTvIESOIY/w-d-xo.html
@@OneBagTravels Thank you, I'll check the video out!
Generally speaking, are ultralight bags more comfortable than their heavier counterparts?
I don't particularly care about weight, but I'd be happy to shed the extra pounds and go for a more minimalist option if it would be more comfortable.
@@FadilKarim I'd say generally speaking ultralight bags are less comfortable because they use less materials and padding for the shoulder straps and back padding on the bag. Ultralight bags rely more on good design to make a pack comfortable because they can't rely on just a thickly padded shoulder strap. Some bags do well with this like the Dragonfly, it's a small pack, but they managed to make it decently comfortable with fewer materials.
Thanks for the video, so many great options ! I was also looking at the Tortuga outbreaker laptop backpack, is there a reason it wasn't in the comparison ? Would you say it's less good then the ones presented here ?
I didn't include it because I haven't tested that one yet. I'll be doing a video on their new V4 pack coming out in a few weeks though
Do you think the little America 25L Herschel backpack is an okay size for a personal item?
Probably, but check the airline's dimensions because they're all different. That bag is a little tall but it looks soft so as long as you don't pack it full it should fit.
Any thoughts on the Dakine Essentials 26Liter?
Looks like a pretty basic pack, probably work well if you pack light enough
Most European airlines have strict size and weight limits on personal item bags, typically 2 kg. As such be careful if you come here and intend to take short haul flights on European carriers.
Those bags empty have near on half your weight limit so you won't be able to carry much in them.
Additionally they are obviously far larger than your approved laptop case size so they are going to attract the attention of the gate agents.
2kg is a little low. Most allow 7-12 kg personal item, for example RyanAir has a 10kg limit. But yes, European budget airlines tend to be more restrictive than US airlines. There aren't any standards for personal item sizes and I'm not trying to imply all of these bags will work as a personal item on all airlines. Many of these bags will fit many US airline sizers, but not the more restrictive budget European airlines, for example RyanAir (40x25x20 cm).
@@OneBagTravels I stand corrected although TAP has a 2kg limit and others have combined carry on/personal item limits.
All I am saying is that people should aware that the limits here are generally less generous that US carriers.
Will the ULA ATLAS fit in the box assuming you don’t pack it to the max
Not the Atlas, it's too long. But the Dragonfly will.
Thanks!
The Cabin Zero Military is almost perfect. I just need them to finally fix the laptop compartment. It'll be a $2 of added material for some padding, false bottom, and a velcro lock. That's it. I don't want the Tech. I want the military with an internal laptop compartment. It's either that or the updated Osprey 26+6.
Military 28 is great, but yes the laptop sleeve isn't very good
I wish you had added links . Thanks for the video.
Good point, I added them to the description. The Patagonia Tres is no longer available.
Sorry I don’t find your video “comparation of capacity “ could you please help me. Thanks
Here's the packing demo video th-cam.com/video/7Bp-eLyREnM/w-d-xo.html
@@OneBagTravels thanks 🙏
What about CTB26
Yes, I'd add that now, this video is a few years old
Hi, Geoff, I hope you received my " coffee donation" ! Are you comfortable with telling me which brand/size you like best for my "personal items bag"? I will be flying on British Airways, and can't find dimensions for this on their site. I know you like the green Cotopaxi Alpha there. It is fantastic. I would like to spend around $100, but the $170 for the Coto might be OK. I will not be using my personal items bag much at all. Perhaps maybe 3 or 4 times in my life. Thanks, Joey Also, I will not be taking my laptop. I hope this gives you an idea of what I need. And, I trust you for simply telling me what you recommend.
This is the British Airways site
Cabin Bag: 56 x 45 x 25cm (22 x 18 x 10in)
Hang Bag: 40 x 30 x 15cm (16 x 12 x 6in)
www.britishairways.com/en-us/information/baggage-essentials
That's a pretty small hand bag, I don't think any of the bags in this video are that small. I don't even know if I own a bag that small, it's basically a small daypack. The Cabin bag can be basically anything, that's quite a large bag. Cotopaxi is good if you like the clamshell style. A good budget brand is Cabin Zero, most of their bags have a very simple design, but they're good quality for the price, and tend to be pretty inexpensive. I think the Military 28 is
@@OneBagTravels Buddy, thanks so much for all this info! I'll think of you when I'm in England! gotta have another cup of coffee on me!!! Thanks, Geoff.
@@OneBagTravels I think only the length is slightly larger than British Airways require. This thing of "fear" or stress at being in the airport and having then say, "Sorry! Go back!!" is awful. I probably will try to go with something actually less than what the requirements are. You are helping me a great deal, Geoff. Thanks, Joey
@@josephcollins6033 Just put the bag on your opposite shoulder and walk throught like nothing. The won't turn you away, worst case they gate check your bag or charge you extra. Not the end of the world.
@@josephcollins6033 That sounds like a fun trip, glad to help, thanks for the extra coffee!
So, which one do you carry? I’m guessing the CPL? I have the AER flight pack V2 and am eyeballing that CPL pretty hard. Wish it had a luggage strap
Generally the CPL for shorter trips or warm areas. However I'm constantly testing packs so it changes a lot 😆
@@OneBagTravels why the CPL for warm areas, it seemed like the carry had very little ventilation?
@@ootz0rzIt's more the size, 24L is much easier in warm areas because you don't need to pack as much. It would be much more difficult if you needed to fit a jacket in there. Good point on the air ventilation though. It's not great on this pack, but that isn't usually the highest consideration on my list. I'd much rather have a comfortable, well made pack with great organization. My back will get sweaty either way, just slightly less quickly if it has good ventilation.
@@OneBagTravels gotcha, fair enough when considering hot+humid destinations on the ventilation! I've been looking for a good all-around day-bag lately and have found myself fixating on strap/back ventilation, but perhaps it's not as big of a deal as it is in my head.
Currently considering the Aer Flight Pack 3, Boundary Supply Stasis Sling, Boundary Supply Errant Sling, Mission Workshop Spar Sling, and Alpaka Bravo X Sling. Have experience with any of them?
I was considering having something I can toss my iPad + airpod max into during the flight... and then use during the day at my destination. This being separate from my normal main carry-on bag (Peak Design Travel 40L)
The flight pack is a bit of an outlier as it's the biggest and a backpack. But I could use it as a daily bag for when I'm working remotely and heading to cafes and such too which is appealing; getting more use out of it!
Oh and the Aer Day Sling 3 Max in the list!
I’m sorry to report that they are all too big for travel to or within Europe. Even major airlines like Lufthansa, now list size limits for personal item (30x40x10cm or 80cm total).
Yes, my criteria is 18x14x8" (46x36x20cm) which is a common personal size limit in the US. But many airlines are much smaller, especially European carriers. I'm flying Airbondi next week (40x30x20 limit) and I'm worried my bag is just a little too large 😣 I'd like to do another post sometime looking at bags that fit these types of smaller personal size limits.
Great video, very informative. Curious if you have any information on any of these packs:
COR Surf Island Hopper 28L
Db Ramverk 26L
Solo Grand Travel TSA
Tucano Tugo
Thanks again. Always in search of the perfect personal item!
COR Surf Island Hopper is an almost exact knock-off of the Cotopaxi Allpa. I've never tried it, but it's $70 cheaper, could be worth trying but risky because you don't know about the company. I've never heard of the DB Ramverk 26L, it looks interesting, kind of heavy (3.5 lbs) for a 26L pack though. I haven't tried anything from Solo, they have a lot of laptop pack options. I get the impression their packs are lower on the quality scale, but again I havent tested them. Tucano is another brand I haven't tried. They have so many packs it's kind of overwhelming, the Tugo is the only one that seems like it would work for travel, reminds me of packs from Cabin Zero, simply made with decent quality.
@@OneBagTravels Thanks for your response. I ordered an Island Hopper to see if the quality is anywhere near Cotopaxi and will report back. Db looks interesting for the top pouch; company used to be called DoucheBags (yes, really).
@@matthewfox3499 Hah, I'm glad they changed the name! Can't wait to hear about the Island Hopper, hopefully the quality is decent.
@@OneBagTravels I just got back from a trip using the Island Hopper 28. It was very good, but not sure if it's a keeper for me. It's pretty close to a Cotopaxi Allpa 28 clone. I can't tell the zipper brand or fabric speifics, but everything felt sturdy. Outside zippers were smooth, inside zippers are tiny - I would add pulls if I keep it. The pack isn't terribly rigid, which is good for overstuffing, but if you do, it makes the laptop section hard to close, so always pack that first. The hidden storage pouches on the back are small, but perfect for travel docs/money, and the bottom one is very well hidden under the luggage strap. Fit under seat on Southwest flights without an issue. Nice having a water bottle holder - fits at most a 24oz plastic bottle you'd get at 7-11, but not a thicker thermos style bottle,
Biggest problems for me were the backpack straps. They were not comfortable and I always had a hard time cinching them tighter against my frame. The chest strap wasn't big enough and too tight on me, and no hip belt. Also, straps can't tuck into bag. The luggage strap was useful, but it's a little thin and the bag would wobble a bit when moved on top of roller bag. Wish it had handles on all sides. Nitpick for me is that the outside color options are just okay, but I appreciated for the black bag the interior is lime green and easier to find things.
I think I'll end up with an Allpa 28 or 35 - bag is strictly for maximizing personal item volume and not for walking around.
@@matthewfox3499 Interesting, thanks for the thorough overview! It seems similar to the Allpa but I wonder how they compare with carry comfort.
Any have a shoulder strap?
The only one of these packs that comes with a shoulder strap is the Patagonia Tres. However it's discontinued. The new version of the Mini MLC is similar, also comes with a shoulder strap.
@@OneBagTravels thank you for the reply.
Dude, wow.. where are the videos putting them in the sizing box?
I think I didn't have my sizer box yet when I made this video
@@OneBagTravels You showed the sizing box in this video. Also said you'd make a seperate vid physically fitting the bags in it in another video bc this one was "a bit long".🤔🤔
Many of the viewers wanna see the largest packed bags (like the osprey porter 46) fit into the smallest dimensions like... the Frontier airlines personal item container, since the all-you-can-fly deal 'everyone' purchased starts in May.
Wait, do any these companies compensate you in any way for content?
@@Chupabrah You're right, apparently I forgot!
@@Chupabrah Osprey 46 won't fit in a personal item sizer. I buy most of the gear myself but occasionally companies send me gear to review. I don't take money or compensation for reviews though.
Idk man, not sure if I would risk trying to board with both a rolling carry on and a 28 backpack…would hate to have the agent force me to check one of them, especially if I have valuables in them which I usually do…
For me, 25L is about my limit for a personal item.
Yeah I don't think I would either. The intention is for this to be your only bag, while being as large as possible and still fit it in under the seat.
@@OneBagTravels ah, gotcha. One-bagger under-seater
@a re-read my comment.
Thanks+
All too big for Ryanair.
Yep, Ryanair limit is quite small