Saw your little annotation to the lower left it said "against the wind" I instantly started hearing that Bob seger song of the same name... ya know just watching this burn playing that in my mind ...yeah... that's really cool.
Our family homestead from 1865 was saved by a number of first responders. Including national forestry to volunteers and even national guard. 5 departments that I know of possibly more. A new respect for proper forest management. Love the information, I’ll leave the burning to the professionals the fire burned 360 around the homestead and feet from the barn. Not possible to thank them enough. . Can’t wait to see the changes that will come!
I use cool burning for forest management. There is not good nor bad fire - only the right fire. Burn against the win and start at the top of the hills. Black ground and white smoke - Not white ground and black smoke.
Great information once again. I have been pushed around by fire, having had to evacuate once, but I think it would be good to push the fire around as you do.
Very informative and perfect way to combat wildfires which could start in the hot season, instead of planning to spread some fire retardant chemicals all over the woody areas.
Fire isn't a toy anywhere but here in the pacific northwest, and really get a kick out of your endings. Be safe and try not float away since the Washington and Oregon areas are set to get a long stretch of wet days. Classic late April here,
I watch as much for the dry humor as well as the timber stuff. Last fall the forest service did this a couple days into deer season. They had pulled lots of piles of dry duff and log chunks and limbs, and they were all over the place, I'm sure it was a couple square miles at least. Hunters were camped in the area and we were driving through a huge smoke screen. They even burned close behind my camp but the smoke went the other way fortunately. Odd timing I thought.
I hope my neighbors don’t see this episode…I can just see it now, shoot I can do that in my over grown back yard !!! 🔥🔥🔥 🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒 🚒 🚒 Thanks Wilson !!!
Prescribed burns? YES! Prescribed burns with Poison Oak in the range fan? Aaauugh! Another likeroo. Cheers from your Poison Oak-hating neighbour to the North.
The best sensation ever is hot water on poison oak especially if it’s on, well never mind. You said you don’t get poison oak anyway 😁 Btw, I didn’t either until I was 40 and had to machete through a large dormant bush of some kind that a day later I was able to correctly identify. Now I get it 🤬
@@dgoodman1484 Ah, the old, "learned to ID Poison Oak the hard way" lesson... One of the horrible experiences endured by so many of us. (I learned it in my misspent youth.)
I typically don’t get it if I’m just walking through it. I can be in it all day and not get it. If I come in contact with a fresh cut piece and some sap dribbles on me, in that case I can get it.
It didn’t help much as the leaves were off and it was a single bush about the size of a garage. Never seen it look like that before or since. Thankfully lol
Kinda like a horror film to me. Dad worked for the forestry there in Oregon and sometimes on forest fires. I don't know what I'm doing in that kind of situation. Really glad you do.
Hi what we are talking about here is forest ground fire not a forest fire do the trees like hot roots.There are places in certain forests where the pine mushroom grow where some pickers use rakes to pull back the moss cover to find the mushrooms major destruction. You may get lots of new growth on the ground but what does it do for the trees. A chipper would make a better ground cover to feed the trees ind the pines
I’ve been planning on doing a video about how to both repair and replace the tape. I’ve been waiting for a long time for my tape to break so I could do that. But when I want it to break it’s not breaking. I have had a few requests to do that so I may get a new refill and do it anyway.
@@WilsonForestLands I can help you with that. Let the nail on the end hand hang in your pants. Make to snap come off your belt loop while your skidding on the tractor. This will allow the tape to fall out behind you and unspool while you skid over it with the logs. I heard a story about a fellow doing this but I'm not sure if it's true.
That reminds me of another technique that is quite effective. And that is to have a log start rolling down the hill after you buck it with the nail still in the log. As the tape gets wound around the log as it is rolling, I have found that to be an effective way to break a tape out of the spool if it rolls far enough.
Good video Mike. Sorry miss W😊 Or if your place is like mine , anywhere you burn will birth, a whole bunch of Mullien weeds. I swear those things will grow if a seed blows in from 8 miles away and they land on horrible soil they will find a way to grow and duplicate like nothing I’ve ever seen. Around here, the log truck bring it in and anytime someone does earth work with the caterpillar or similar implement
Is your mill on a trailer? I have wanted a mill for some time but it would never pay for itself. I have a few logs down and the neighbor has a small pile. Problem is that the butt end is about 36" so a small mill would be hard to work on the bigger logs
As with all things related to Woodland Management, the answer is: "It Depends." It depends on the County, or State ordinances. I agree with Dog Soldier below: Some Counties impose burn bans at various times of the year and depending on atmospheric conditions. Even in what could be described as "perfect conditions" a ban will be placed if there's a high pressure moving in -- as it holds the smoke down to ground levels and decreases the winds. In Linn County, Oregon, the bans are sometimes, um, capricious in nature. (No seeming logical reason...)
Concerned for your lungs as the fire was working through poison oak in some places. People who are allergic to poison oak (a high percentage) could have severe troubles if breathing in the smoke. Otherwise, love it. Where I live in Oregon they're wanting to clamp down too much, putting city rules on rural folk that are trying to take care of the land with things like slash burns, or prescribed burns.
I have been burning in poison oak since I was a kid. I’ve never had a problem with it. Fortunately I’m not allergic to it. A lot of people are trying to clamp down on burning. But at least around here a lot of people are for it. Especially the Department of Forestry.
@@WilsonForestLandsI think I got a rash just watching you walk around out there! I’m surrounded by the stuff here in Oregon and I was going to request a video on the subject, but if you’re immune to it I suppose you don’t give it much thought. Thanks for another great video. Informative and entertaining, as always!
Yes I do have a technique for dealing with the poison oak. My technique is have genes that make you not allergic to it. It works for me but that probably doesn’t help a lot of people. 😁 Since I don’t have a problem with it I don’t really have any good wisdom there other than stay up wind from the fumes.
Ok. I see that Im not the only fire bug. I've started on burning the sides of the creek that's behind the house. I think that I cooked a couple of snakes in the process
typically during the spring there are no burn bans and timing your burns for where there is going to be rain in the near future helps it a lot. spring is usually the perfect time of year where you can have dry fuels on top of the duff layer while the duff itself keeps its moisture. perfectly safe with planning and proper conditions.
We are known for our bad wildfires in the West. But for much of the West that is only during the summer dry season. Late Fall through early Spring we have conditions that would make it very difficult for a wildfire to happen. It’s too damp much of the year. It’s allowed then but if we tried this during wildfire season, some government people would get very angry with us. And they would let us know how angry they are.
These trees are specifically adapted so their boughs and needles burn quick, but their bark burns very punky and slow. Look up ablative heat shielding.
Believe in Wilson. He wouldna steer ye wrong. Believe also in that many/most PNW trees are in fact, fire adapted and most require low-mid intensity fire to propagate. The cedars, Ponderosa pine and older Douglas-firs shrug it off, literally. The White oak savannahs were kept open in just this manner by the First Nations peoples, until the superior intellect of the white man made them stop and the fuel-loads began building into mega-fire producing conditions.
What I have found is if I knock everything else down, sometimes lupine and other plants outcompete the poison oak and shade it out. That’s part of my long term strategy in that spot.
Now this is not bad, BUT the ancestors who did this mustered a whole bunch of people to do the containment Doing this alone without the absolute perfect conditions will send your adrenaline to 11
@@WilsonForestLands Exactly so. Prescribed burn returns the forest floor to its "natural" state, and you be amazed at the native plants which pop up immediately after a low intensity burn.
@@edwardenglish6919 Buwhahahaahahaha! Let Oregon BAN Gasoline powered equipment! My dream! I NEVER use a gas-powered chainsaw!!! Change my mind? Not regarding politics in a Burn-ban video discussion. Attacking my and your President Biden, or future President Newsome, is ill-timed and out of place.
@@edwardenglish6919 Buwhahahahah! I literally dream that Oregon and all other states BAN gasoline powered equipment! I advocate for only battery/electric saws at every opportunity. I stand by my original statement -- current political figures, Gov. Newsome or my (and your) President Biden have no place in the discussion about Burn Bans. Not the time or place.
I don’t know what it’s like to be normal either! That’s probably why I watch this channel. Thanks.
I like a water barrel and watering can for keeping it in check
Saw your little annotation to the lower left it said "against the wind"
I instantly started hearing that Bob seger song of the same name...
ya know just watching this burn playing that in my mind ...yeah... that's really cool.
I heard it too.
I didn’t hear then, but now that you mention it, it’s probably going to be stuck in my head. Thanks a lot. 😂
Our family homestead from 1865 was saved by a number of first responders. Including national forestry to volunteers and even national guard. 5 departments that I know of possibly more. A new respect for proper forest management. Love the information, I’ll leave the burning to the professionals the fire burned 360 around the homestead and feet from the barn. Not possible to thank them enough. . Can’t wait to see the changes that will come!
I use cool burning for forest management.
There is not good nor bad fire - only the right fire.
Burn against the win and start at the top of the hills.
Black ground and white smoke - Not white ground and black smoke.
Great information once again. I have been pushed around by fire, having had to evacuate once, but I think it would be good to push the fire around as you do.
I have had to evacuate from firetoo. I prefer to be the pusher instead of the pushee.
Quite the one man crew you have!
It can be quite a chore keeping us all in line.
Great discussion and demonstration of low-tech, careful burning!
I've got a lot of burning to get done at a new property and about 6+ trees to fell. Hope I can get at it before the heat hits here. Bulgaria.
Very informative and perfect way to combat wildfires which could start in the hot season, instead of planning to spread some fire retardant chemicals all over the woody areas.
Fire isn't a toy anywhere but here in the pacific northwest, and really get a kick out of your endings. Be safe and try not float away since the Washington and Oregon areas are set to get a long stretch of wet days. Classic late April here,
Excellent lateral thinking, if there were only more people like you! 😊
Looking forward to your next video, Wilson.....
I watch as much for the dry humor as well as the timber stuff. Last fall the forest service did this a couple days into deer season. They had pulled lots of piles of dry duff and log chunks and limbs, and they were all over the place, I'm sure it was a couple square miles at least. Hunters were camped in the area and we were driving through a huge smoke screen. They even burned close behind my camp but the smoke went the other way fortunately. Odd timing I thought.
I hope my neighbors don’t see this episode…I can just see it now, shoot I can do that in my over grown back yard !!! 🔥🔥🔥
🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒 🚒 🚒
Thanks Wilson !!!
Hopefully your neighbors don’t watch this channel. I can be a bad influence. 🔥
Done this a thousand times. Love doing it.
id be too scared to do this on my own without a good water source but this looks great and manageable.
Always usual information. Thanks for putting it together.
Plus this: “I don’t even know what it’s like to be a normal people.” 😂
Why not rake the thickest slash away from the tree trunks before you burn?
Prescribed burns? YES!
Prescribed burns with Poison Oak in the range fan? Aaauugh!
Another likeroo.
Cheers from your Poison Oak-hating neighbour to the North.
Like my dad says, poison oak isn’t so bad. It itches a little but it feels kinda good when you scratch it.
The best sensation ever is hot water on poison oak especially if it’s on, well never mind. You said you don’t get poison oak anyway 😁
Btw, I didn’t either until I was 40 and had to machete through a large dormant bush of some kind that a day later I was able to correctly identify. Now I get it 🤬
@@dgoodman1484 Ah, the old, "learned to ID Poison Oak the hard way" lesson...
One of the horrible experiences endured by so many of us. (I learned it in my misspent youth.)
I typically don’t get it if I’m just walking through it. I can be in it all day and not get it. If I come in contact with a fresh cut piece and some sap dribbles on me, in that case I can get it.
It didn’t help much as the leaves were off and it was a single bush about the size of a garage. Never seen it look like that before or since. Thankfully lol
Kinda like a horror film to me. Dad worked for the forestry there in Oregon and sometimes on forest fires. I don't know what I'm doing in that kind of situation. Really glad you do.
I dug a cone pit and I've been making biochar and Terra Preta.
Poison oak... ❤❤❤
Good information today, Michelle.😉👍
Michael?
@lpeterman Woops 😬 stupid me. Hopefully, Michael's mom doesn't yell at him for my mistake
@@DanielAtkinsFirewood 😬 He might not notice...!
Don’t worry, I didn’t notice and her computer is broken. You might at least be safe until she gets it fixed.
@@WilsonForestLands 🤣🤣
Just watching you working in burning poison oak is making me itch…I think I might have to go take a shower in Tecnu…
I know burning poison oak will make some people miserable but I never had a problem with it.
Where was the failing part? Looked like it went well.
Hi what we are talking about here is forest ground fire not a forest fire do the trees like hot roots.There are places in certain forests where the pine mushroom grow where some pickers use rakes to pull back the moss cover to find the mushrooms major destruction. You may get lots of new growth on the ground but what does it do for the trees. A chipper would make a better ground cover to feed the trees
ind the pines
Michael, could you show how to replace the tape on a logging tape if you haven't already? Let me know if I've missed this on a previous video.
I’ve been planning on doing a video about how to both repair and replace the tape. I’ve been waiting for a long time for my tape to break so I could do that. But when I want it to break it’s not breaking. I have had a few requests to do that so I may get a new refill and do it anyway.
@@WilsonForestLands I can help you with that. Let the nail on the end hand hang in your pants. Make to snap come off your belt loop while your skidding on the tractor. This will allow the tape to fall out behind you and unspool while you skid over it with the logs. I heard a story about a fellow doing this but I'm not sure if it's true.
That reminds me of another technique that is quite effective. And that is to have a log start rolling down the hill after you buck it with the nail still in the log. As the tape gets wound around the log as it is rolling, I have found that to be an effective way to break a tape out of the spool if it rolls far enough.
Leaf blowers
Curious what permitting, if any, that it takes in your jurisdiction for a burn like this?
Never seen something like this. It's prohibited in Austria as far as I know.
Good video Mike. Sorry miss W😊
Or if your place is like mine , anywhere you burn will birth, a whole bunch of Mullien weeds. I swear those things will grow if a seed blows in from 8 miles away and they land on horrible soil they will find a way to grow and duplicate like nothing I’ve ever seen.
Around here, the log truck bring it in and anytime someone does earth work with the caterpillar or similar implement
Is your mill on a trailer?
I have wanted a mill for some time but it would never pay for itself.
I have a few logs down and the neighbor has a small pile.
Problem is that the butt end is about 36" so a small mill would be hard to work on the bigger logs
Does your local government or authority require you to get either training or some kind of license?
Good question
In the PNW we have “burn ban” periods due to weather conditions
Sometimes states or counties require alerting the authorities prior to pile burning too
As with all things related to Woodland Management, the answer is: "It Depends."
It depends on the County, or State ordinances.
I agree with Dog Soldier below: Some Counties impose burn bans at various times of the year and depending on atmospheric conditions. Even in what could be described as "perfect conditions" a ban will be placed if there's a high pressure moving in -- as it holds the smoke down to ground levels and decreases the winds.
In Linn County, Oregon, the bans are sometimes, um, capricious in nature. (No seeming logical reason...)
@@lpeterman I forgot about the "it depends" reasoning. Thank you
Do you have a lot invasives on your property? Anything you are concerned about?
Not very many. Himalayan blackberries and medusahead grass are the only real ones of concern.
Burn baby burn..fire is hot!
It's a good burn day when nothing interesting happens.
That is very true.
Concerned for your lungs as the fire was working through poison oak in some places. People who are allergic to poison oak (a high percentage) could have severe troubles if breathing in the smoke. Otherwise, love it. Where I live in Oregon they're wanting to clamp down too much, putting city rules on rural folk that are trying to take care of the land with things like slash burns, or prescribed burns.
I have been burning in poison oak since I was a kid. I’ve never had a problem with it. Fortunately I’m not allergic to it. A lot of people are trying to clamp down on burning. But at least around here a lot of people are for it. Especially the Department of Forestry.
@@WilsonForestLandsI think I got a rash just watching you walk around out there! I’m surrounded by the stuff here in Oregon and I was going to request a video on the subject, but if you’re immune to it I suppose you don’t give it much thought. Thanks for another great video. Informative and entertaining, as always!
Native people burned in fall. I think you can probably burn in between rains when the ground is wet but the wood is less wet.
Is there anything "special" you do if your burning an area that has poison ivy/oak around your burn?
id like to know the answer to this too.
I would not want to breathe that smoke.
@@trenomas1 No, you really don't. Unless you have REALLY good medical insurance.
Avoid the oily smoke... (Hah! It follows me wherever I stand.)
Yes I do have a technique for dealing with the poison oak. My technique is have genes that make you not allergic to it. It works for me but that probably doesn’t help a lot of people. 😁 Since I don’t have a problem with it I don’t really have any good wisdom there other than stay up wind from the fumes.
Fire is hot?
I know, right?
The things we learn from YT....
Amazing
oy mate, you got a permit for that?
stay safe out there, a good fire beats a future bad fire!
I sort of have a permit.
Ok. I see that Im not the only fire bug. I've started on burning the sides of the creek that's behind the house. I think that I cooked a couple of snakes in the process
Yeah I think we fire bugs are in good company. How did those grilled snakes taste?
@@WilsonForestLands they're not bad. I think that I over cooked them though.
Never brought a spade to brush or slash burn. Thatching rake.
That’s the ticket.
Pile burn..... Why hot curries should be avoided by people suffering from haemorrhoids.
NOW, I learn this information.
Talk about being late to the party.... 😂
Ooooh, ouch! LOL.
You Brits...
TMI
DO NOT TRY THIS IN WYOMING! The enti🎉re area is to dry and I’ve cut down all the fire wood I need for winter, and then some!
I'm surprised this is allowed.
typically during the spring there are no burn bans and timing your burns for where there is going to be rain in the near future helps it a lot. spring is usually the perfect time of year where you can have dry fuels on top of the duff layer while the duff itself keeps its moisture. perfectly safe with planning and proper conditions.
@@cameronsmoot6386 Exactly so.
This should be allowed more often by the responsible landowner.
We are known for our bad wildfires in the West. But for much of the West that is only during the summer dry season. Late Fall through early Spring we have conditions that would make it very difficult for a wildfire to happen. It’s too damp much of the year. It’s allowed then but if we tried this during wildfire season, some government people would get very angry with us. And they would let us know how angry they are.
Why?
Find it hard to believe that flames climbing up the trunk of the tree do not harm the tree.
Do you believe that armor protected knights?
These trees are specifically adapted so their boughs and needles burn quick, but their bark burns very punky and slow.
Look up ablative heat shielding.
Believe in Wilson. He wouldna steer ye wrong.
Believe also in that many/most PNW trees are in fact, fire adapted and most require low-mid intensity fire to propagate.
The cedars, Ponderosa pine and older Douglas-firs shrug it off, literally. The White oak savannahs were kept open in just this manner by the First Nations peoples, until the superior intellect of the white man made them stop and the fuel-loads began building into mega-fire producing conditions.
Vintage, lots of knights died in their armor. 😂
Tren, I will look it up.
I see no reason to keep poison oak roots alive😊
An ironic thumbs-up from me.
(However, they are native plants and have their niche; but damned if I know what that niche is.)
What I have found is if I knock everything else down, sometimes lupine and other plants outcompete the poison oak and shade it out. That’s part of my long term strategy in that spot.
Now this is not bad, BUT the ancestors who did this mustered a whole bunch of people to do the containment
Doing this alone without the absolute perfect conditions will send your adrenaline to 11
Yes my adrenaline level has been to 11 or maybe 12 before because of that. That’s how I learned to only wait for the absolute perfect conditions. 😁
Who is normal? Jesus!
You must have smelled like smoked sausage. 😁
Maybe a little bit not in a good way. Forest duff is not the best smoke flavor. 😁
Hi you just killed off the natural cover that the trees use to feed off plus removed the cover that was to keep the sun from drying out the ground
That’s what these trees are adapted to. Not having fire in these forests is an unnatural situation.
@@WilsonForestLands Exactly so. Prescribed burn returns the forest floor to its "natural" state, and you be amazed at the native plants which pop up immediately after a low intensity burn.
In California, the government would lock you up for life for doing that. Lord help us if Newsom becomes president.
No room for current politics in this discussion.
If Trumputin becomes president, you could get locked up for life for posting this.
@@lpeterman When your state makes it illegal to sell a gas powered chainsaw you will change your mind.
@@edwardenglish6919 Buwhahahaahahaha! Let Oregon BAN Gasoline powered equipment! My dream!
I NEVER use a gas-powered chainsaw!!!
Change my mind? Not regarding politics in a Burn-ban video discussion.
Attacking my and your President Biden, or future President Newsome, is ill-timed and out of place.
@@edwardenglish6919 Buwhahahahah!
I literally dream that Oregon and all other states BAN gasoline powered equipment!
I advocate for only battery/electric saws at every opportunity.
I stand by my original statement -- current political figures, Gov. Newsome or my (and your) President Biden have no place in the discussion about Burn Bans.
Not the time or place.