12:18 Thanks for the added info (re: alternated bolts) which now satisfies my opinion as to why not. That's a great addition to the video - an explanation of the why - that miniature needs less of, than doing it the same as larger railways.
Millbrook .....What a wonderful friendship...Amazing.....Bill ? Oops if wrong name, Seems like a neat person...love him Ballast cars &Ballast temple....The wonderful thing WE have notice about you guys is " Well looks like we need to build something. ".... Congratulations.....on another Addition ..Hope you continue to Share your Beautiful RAILWAYS. ......As much as you enjoy visiting this RAILWAYS. ..It is actually a division of Millbrook. ...Since it's so wonderful how you two inspire each other....He's a lot like my dad Thomas Thompson of Anacortes RAILWAYS. ... You three would have enjoyed each other Company. ....Wish more Crews were like each other ..."sharing and inspiration of Ideas ".....You two are very fortunate. ...
My father was a live steamer and built 2 locomotives using a lathe and Bridgeport in our garage. This brings back good memories, as I grew up at the local tracks.
10:50 You should have noticed that all "factory drilled" fishplate holes, in the rail ends, are NOT circular but slotted. That's to allow the fish-bolts an ability to slide with the expansion / contraction of the rails, in summer & winter. Simply drilling a circular new hole, in one rail, means you have limited that rails ability to have a correct expansion / contraction slot If you had to redrill all four holes, you'd find yourself breaking fish-bolts every summer/winter. The way we (the track gang on the NZR) got around that problem, was to drill slightly larger holes than the bolts needed, as (after all) the two fishplates (one either side) held the bolts no matter how long the slot, nor how big the drilled circular hole. If you drill the new circular hole, about the size of the slotted length, you'll have the same length of drift capacity as a fully slotted rail.
Funny, never had the screws break on mine and the track is going on being down for 40 years. All I have is the clearance size for the #8 screws. I am currently taking up the track in expectation of a move. Interesting thing also is that there is no need for the tie plates. #10 hex head screws with a washer hold just fine and it only takes a year or so for a scaled railhead to wear to match the wheel profile's angle. Stainless screws, no need. About the time a Zinc coated one rusts out it is time to replace the ties anyways. And interesting thing is, when you pull the rails off the ties, the wood if it hasn't rotted under the tie, it will look like there was a tie plate there.
@quixnz....rail expansion & contraction certainly applies to steel rails, but I highly doubt that aluminum rails undergo the same temperature-related process.
So awesome. That’s always been one of my dreams. Ever since my first memory of Travel Town growing up in SoCal. To have my own scale railroad. Miles of track winding through a beautiful piece of property. Having friends and family over to help occasionally and enjoy a ride, with several lines to choose from.
The wonderful part about it is, you don't actually need miles of track to have fun. All you need is to connect places. Chicken coop to compost pile, wood shed to house, hay shed to manger, garbage can storage to curb, vegetable garden to house, the list goes on.
For some odd reason this video came up on my recommended, and now usually I wont watch a video more than 20 minutes long, nor am I all that much interested in trains but Ill be damned because Im about 30 minutes into this and its about the most interesting thing Ive seen in a long while, hope yall keep making these videos because Im genuinely interested to see where this goes.
Interesting/informative entertaining. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what the orator is describing. " Choo choo...moo moo the miniature R.R. @ Beckers dairy farm. once located in Rowland N.J. A 7K foot rail way line for visitors to ride & enjoy May thru October. I vaguely remember the dairy farm 🐄 train 🚂 ride perhaps 60 years ago. It operated 1940 thru 1972. Wishing viewers a safe/healthy/prosperous ( 2024 ) 🌈🎉😉
Dear Mill Brook Railroad guys. 👍👌👏 Absolutely fantastic! Utube just recommended this to me and I'm glad that they did! I will definitely watch more of your inspiring stuff. Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing. Best regards luck and health to all of you.
Cool fellows! Glad your doing the work. At 67 my back aches just sweeping the floor. To much time in my youth playing superman and failing to jump over tall buildings I suspect.
I wish i had seen this video when i was younger, my parents had 20 acres of bush. Always wanted to build a logging railway, rolling hills and hills where spring water did flow. MOUNT FOREST ONTARIO CANADA . It would have been great, could never figure how to easily lay track or where to get rail. That property and them too are long gone. And now i live in a big town of SWIFT CURRENT SK CANADA. No major bush on CANADIAN prairies. So no logging railway dream any more, but i still like watching. Thanks for answering so many questions, Where do you buy your rail ?
He might be a millionaire if he sold off his business and everything he owns. The center cab is the most expensive piece of equipment he has. It was $8,000 new and he bought it used. He built pretty much everything else himself.
nylon lock nuts are great in that they prevent water seeping from one side. the dryer the less possible formation of rust. great tools to pre form the rail. and your templent for the joiners is great! along with the rail sections set up for the ties to rails to be uniform will not cause irregularities in each rail sections. thank you for sharing your videos. barry
It's just unreal what the Human Mind can Accomplish! To have a Miniature active working Railroad as if it was actual scale is just a Beautiful thing! But there's tons of work and Man hours involved! And the constant upkeep that running any kind of Railway is Back Breaking work! 🚂
You're in luck there. I have some videos about that very topic. th-cam.com/video/5l3r4jnEnz4/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/o1MDIJWMUNA/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/O2RoSngjN3k/w-d-xo.html I have a very similar locomotive build coming soon.
@buddywayne1 The track costs about $9-$12 per foot (after earth work), but you only buy it once, and there's a lot you can do yourself. Maintenance, on the other hand, is forever ongoing.
Very rewarding getting a complete line down. Would have liked to have gotten a little more info. Like how much ballast the tipple and cars hold and how much it takes per hundred feet of track. Very interesting!
We're still figuring that out. Ballast per hundred feet should be more than what we're using here. We didn't have any under the track, so there's going to be at least twice as much as we put down during this video.
Nicely done Boys. Would there be any advantage to using a powered tamper, to help "shake" the ballast into place. You do seem to have a good method for the trackage. Well done.
I don't think it'll ever be open to the public. It is at the end of a long, winding dirt road. Even if it were public, I don't think many people would visit. If, on the other hand, someone were to call ahead and ask to schedule a visit, I don't think he'd have a problem with that. The Mill Brook Railroad is similarly not necessarily open to the public but people can and do call and make appointments to ride. [UPDATE: Bill has mentioned the possibility of having meets at his track.]
It's purpose will be forestry management. Most of the trees in this part of the forest died off our are dying. The railroad will help get the dead stuff out and help keep the non-native invasives from dominating. Also, as the line trees are dying off, the maples are taking over. That means there will be plenty of trees to tap for maple sap, which will be boiled down to maple syrup.
We sure do! The shop is full at the moment, though. Bill is building a steam engine for one customer and stock cars and box cars for other customers. I help him out on the paying jobs for shop time on Mill Brook Railroad projects.
You’re lucky. It’s fall, Let’s build some track panels! If you lived in north Texas where I do, summer was 8 months long this year. And fall only lasted 3 weeks.
nice job. looks like you folks could use a Caboose with a Leaf Blower hidden in it to clear away the leaves from the ballast. mayhaps 4 Flatcars to move track panels and other material instead of stacking atop the Hoppers. stalling on a curved Grade usually is the result of not enough power being applied to the track resulting in wheelslip. is there room inside the loco's hood to add some additional weight for better grip. or is there consideration toward adding a 6 axle loco to the railroad for more power that can handle those loads and not lose it's grip mid grade.
Using steel allen head bolts with stainless steel nuts is a much better idea than using stainless bolts with stainless nuts. All stainless fasteners have a nasty habit of 'cold welding' themselves together, making removal a very painful job.
When I was a kid some 65 years ago I helped build an amusement park railroad called "The Carolyn Road". It was located near Albany, New York in the Village of Guilderland. Has anybody ever heard of it?
btw, I'm using allen head screws.....
I think you made that very clear hahaha
This is beatiful. Now I just need to see someone build a backyard miniature canal with functional locks
That would be interesting! Not practical here in the mountains but somewhere that has flat ground, for sure!
@@MillBrookRailroad nahhh youd just need more locks 😂😂😂
@@benhawkins4245 There must be a clever reply but I'm afraid I've just run dry. :-)
If he did that he would of course need to build miniature luxury liners and tankers and cargo ships, sailboats, etc.
I'd watch those videos. ;)
I need one lol
Now, all you need to do is put up a sign: "40 feet of track in one day!"
An absolute dream. Big kids playing with their toys and extending the field.
I absolutely love it.
12:18
Thanks for the added info (re: alternated bolts) which now satisfies my opinion as to why not.
That's a great addition to the video - an explanation of the why - that miniature needs less of, than doing it the same as larger railways.
Made for good viewing guys so thanks for taking us along bro. Safe travels
Man, that railway is so cool! Love the tipple, and love using trains for MoW!
Loving these in depth building video’s.
Quite relaxing to watch. And the autumn vibes are a wonderful scenery.
Thanks for watching!
I think that the rock dispenser was the coolest part. It's all great though
You're not wrong. The tipple is the coolest part. Thanks for watching!
Millbrook .....What a wonderful friendship...Amazing.....Bill ? Oops if wrong name, Seems like a neat person...love him Ballast cars &Ballast temple....The wonderful thing WE have notice about you guys is " Well looks like we need to build something. ".... Congratulations.....on another Addition ..Hope you continue to Share your Beautiful RAILWAYS. ......As much as you enjoy visiting this RAILWAYS. ..It is actually a division of Millbrook. ...Since it's so wonderful how you two inspire each other....He's a lot like my dad Thomas Thompson of Anacortes RAILWAYS. ... You three would have enjoyed each other Company. ....Wish more Crews were like each other ..."sharing and inspiration of Ideas ".....You two are very fortunate. ...
The ballast hopper sure made life easier !!! Great job 👊
I like the Ballast Dump Cars. That would make for a nice video on building them!
Paranormal activity
My father was a live steamer and built 2 locomotives using a lathe and Bridgeport in our garage. This brings back good memories, as I grew up at the local tracks.
Do you still have your dad's Locos? Railroad? What a kool Memory
@@bernardc2553 He donated them to the Lake Shore Live Steamers here in Ohio.
10:50
You should have noticed that all "factory drilled" fishplate holes, in the rail ends, are NOT circular but slotted.
That's to allow the fish-bolts an ability to slide with the expansion / contraction of the rails, in summer & winter.
Simply drilling a circular new hole, in one rail, means you have limited that rails ability to have a correct expansion / contraction slot
If you had to redrill all four holes, you'd find yourself breaking fish-bolts every summer/winter.
The way we (the track gang on the NZR) got around that problem, was to drill slightly larger holes than the bolts needed, as (after all) the two fishplates (one either side) held the bolts no matter how long the slot, nor how big the drilled circular hole.
If you drill the new circular hole, about the size of the slotted length, you'll have the same length of drift capacity as a fully slotted rail.
Funny, never had the screws break on mine and the track is going on being down for 40 years. All I have is the clearance size for the #8 screws. I am currently taking up the track in expectation of a move. Interesting thing also is that there is no need for the tie plates. #10 hex head screws with a washer hold just fine and it only takes a year or so for a scaled railhead to wear to match the wheel profile's angle. Stainless screws, no need. About the time a Zinc coated one rusts out it is time to replace the ties anyways. And interesting thing is, when you pull the rails off the ties, the wood if it hasn't rotted under the tie, it will look like there was a tie plate there.
@quixnz....rail expansion & contraction certainly applies to steel rails, but I highly doubt that aluminum rails undergo the same temperature-related process.
Andre. It so happens that the coefficient of linear expansion is substantially much more than steel.
So awesome. That’s always been one of my dreams. Ever since my first memory of Travel Town growing up in SoCal. To have my own scale railroad. Miles of track winding through a beautiful piece of property. Having friends and family over to help occasionally and enjoy a ride, with several lines to choose from.
Where was Travel Town?
The wonderful part about it is, you don't actually need miles of track to have fun. All you need is to connect places. Chicken coop to compost pile, wood shed to house, hay shed to manger, garbage can storage to curb, vegetable garden to house, the list goes on.
For some odd reason this video came up on my recommended, and now usually I wont watch a video more than 20 minutes long, nor am I all that much interested in trains but Ill be damned because Im about 30 minutes into this and its about the most interesting thing Ive seen in a long while, hope yall keep making these videos because Im genuinely interested to see where this goes.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
One video in and I’m hooked! This is simply awesome, I just had to subscribe!
Looking forward to binge watch all the previous videos on your channel.
Interesting/informative entertaining. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what the orator is describing. " Choo choo...moo moo the miniature R.R. @ Beckers dairy farm. once located in Rowland N.J. A 7K foot rail way line for visitors to ride & enjoy May thru October. I vaguely remember the dairy farm 🐄 train 🚂 ride perhaps 60 years ago. It operated 1940 thru 1972. Wishing viewers a safe/healthy/prosperous ( 2024 ) 🌈🎉😉
Dear Mill Brook Railroad guys.
👍👌👏 Absolutely fantastic! Utube just recommended this to me and I'm glad that they did! I will definitely watch more of your inspiring stuff.
Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards luck and health to all of you.
From the Netherlands, you got a new subscriber!! Love this craftmenship en hobby projects. Thanks for sharing the videos.
Thanks!
The extreme emotional outbursts were barely tolerable. I don't know how you can maintain your composure under the stress. Beautiful work.
Now all you need is a Tamper, just love the idea of running these units through Woodland
I've already welded the frame to the tamper. Not sure when I'll finish it.
Always exiting and relaxing for us to see more trackage being added.
Thank you for the video. Brings back memories of me and my daughter riding the rails when she was young.
Awesome video and a great railroad. Those tipper cars saved a lot of work ballasting.
This man is very well organized in assembly and laying of new track. Nice!!
Cool fellows! Glad your doing the work. At 67 my back aches just sweeping the floor. To much time in my youth playing superman and failing to jump over tall buildings I suspect.
Can't wait to see more line construction...
We'll see how much more gets done before winter puts a stop to it.
This is so cool. I have Family into this and haven't seen it in real life yet. Some day I will. Thanks
A fabulous video. As a well informed model engineer, this is great. You are so lucky…
It is very good organized and effective to do it this way. Love it. Thank you for sharing.
Then ballast cars are nice to put rock out instead of a shovel full at a time. Hope to see more of laying new track. Have a great day be safe.
I love the passion you have for your hobby!
Well done sir! That’s a lot of work done realistically.
Great job, that looks awesome! That's what I call working smart. Thanks for sharing. I really enjoyed this video.
Thanks!
@@MillBrookRailroad I like your railroad tracks it’s awesome
I wish i had seen this video when i was younger, my parents had 20 acres of bush. Always wanted to build a logging railway, rolling hills and hills where spring water did flow. MOUNT FOREST ONTARIO CANADA . It would have been great, could never figure how to easily lay track or where to get rail. That property and them too are long gone. And now i live in a big town of SWIFT CURRENT SK CANADA. No major bush on CANADIAN prairies. So no logging railway dream any more, but i still like watching. Thanks for answering so many questions, Where do you buy your rail ?
I'm mad that you're not my dad or grandad, this is so incredible what you have here.
brilliant way of assembling track.
You are living the dream.
What a grand escape from a mad world
Wow. What an incredibly beautiful property. Like a dream. Really enjoyed watching this. ..guy must be a multi-millionaire😂
He might be a millionaire if he sold off his business and everything he owns. The center cab is the most expensive piece of equipment he has. It was $8,000 new and he bought it used. He built pretty much everything else himself.
Not sure how I got here but man am I glad I did! Awesome video
Thanks! We feature work on three different railways and visits to many more on this channel.
16:21 stepping between cars! Uhoh! Good thing you are the C.E.O. AND OWNER of said railroad! 😊
Just so Beautiful!!!
Great video. Thanks for documenting it all.
Thanks, Dave!
You still have an open invitation at the MLBK.
So cool I really appreciate what you guys are doing keep up the great work
Very nice. What a lovely little railroad coming to life on such a nice wooded property. I loved it! Hope to see more of it.
The Stoddard Hill Farm Railway is a regular feature here on this channel. You'll definitely be seeing more of it.
nylon lock nuts are
great in that they prevent water seeping from one
side. the dryer the less
possible formation of rust. great tools to
pre form the rail.
and your templent
for the joiners is great!
along with the rail
sections set up for
the ties to rails to
be uniform will not
cause irregularities
in each rail sections.
thank you for sharing
your videos.
barry
That is really nice. Very neat!
I just wanted to say that I enjoyed the channel so far
@@richfabian6534 thanks!
Perfect Konstruktion ! Top !!! I like it !!
My god, that’s awesome! Ripe with envy😊
Great work!
Now that's really playing trains! Wonderful!
And tunnels and trestle bridges and wow your living my dream nice work guys
Not sure about tunnels but we'll do plenty bridges.
@@MillBrookRailroad we used to have a small kids train at the Iowa state fair years ago and I've always wanted to have one good job
It's just unreal what the Human Mind can Accomplish! To have a Miniature active working Railroad as if it was actual scale is just a Beautiful thing! But there's tons of work and Man hours involved! And the constant upkeep that running any kind of Railway is Back Breaking work! 🚂
There have been railways of this size for over 130 years.
This is the coolest thing I have ever seen.
Thanks!
Bloody brilliant, you guys roick, attention to detail great stuff. Love to see how the engines were made.
You're in luck there. I have some videos about that very topic.
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I have a very similar locomotive build coming soon.
And transporting the panels is wher a few flatbed’s are handy 😁👋👍and did not know that the yellow side dumpers were bottom dumpers too 😁
He'll have flat cars eventually.
I need this in my life. I just need a car with a hammock on it. I'd sleep like a baby
Nice job with everything, looks fun!
I can't imagine the costs involved, but that is so cool. I love it.
@buddywayne1 The track costs about $9-$12 per foot (after earth work), but you only buy it once, and there's a lot you can do yourself. Maintenance, on the other hand, is forever ongoing.
this is legendary and so inspiring
That scale 80 tonner looks nice in Genesee & Wyoming paint!, and the staggered rail joints look & work better too!
Very rewarding getting a complete line down. Would have liked to have gotten a little more info. Like how much ballast the tipple and cars hold and how much it takes per hundred feet of track. Very interesting!
We're still figuring that out. Ballast per hundred feet should be more than what we're using here. We didn't have any under the track, so there's going to be at least twice as much as we put down during this video.
That little diesel train looks awesome
Nicely done Boys. Would there be any advantage to using a powered tamper, to help "shake" the ballast into place. You do seem to have a good method for the trackage. Well done.
Would be cool to do a meet up on this railroad of other local railroads of the same or similar Guage. An run it like train mountain. Lol
That's exactly the plan.
That railroad is awesome..is there at some point a plan to open it to the public for rides or maybe meets with other railroaders?
I don't think it'll ever be open to the public. It is at the end of a long, winding dirt road. Even if it were public, I don't think many people would visit.
If, on the other hand, someone were to call ahead and ask to schedule a visit, I don't think he'd have a problem with that.
The Mill Brook Railroad is similarly not necessarily open to the public but people can and do call and make appointments to ride.
[UPDATE: Bill has mentioned the possibility of having meets at his track.]
Is there a video on how you load the ballast tiple with rock? That's pretty sweet 👍
Thanks for the video!
What is the tie length and spacing on these panels being built?
Ties, I believe are 16 inches long and about 4 inches apart.
You have the best life.
A barn broom will work really good for doing that ballast, to help spread it out.
Looks like time we’ll spent!
Time very well spent.
I like the ‘combined’ rotary screw driver bit and screw pickeruperer.
The screwdriver bit is magnetic.
Ride the mini trains once in Klamath, OR. It is a fun trip.
very cool. I was going to say before watching, you have to have a jig that allows you to make them quick. Prob one for curves too?
I love this project, I’m just curious if it will have a final purpose other than being a fun/hobby miniature rail system?
It's purpose will be forestry management. Most of the trees in this part of the forest died off our are dying. The railroad will help get the dead stuff out and help keep the non-native invasives from dominating.
Also, as the line trees are dying off, the maples are taking over. That means there will be plenty of trees to tap for maple sap, which will be boiled down to maple syrup.
@@MillBrookRailroad That sounds really cool. I can imagine a fleet of miniature tank-cars full of maple sap.
@@romanrat5613 Sometimes, it's 25 gallon tanks on flat cars but the idea is the same. Either way, it's still cool.
Hey! I was wondering where you guys got your track… I’m looking for the best rails compatable with what I have now and I think you guys have it!
How tall is your rail and how wide is the foot of your rail?
@ the only time I have to check is next Saturday, I’ll get back to you then
@@NSWGR_3203 Sounds good.
Hey! I was wondering if it would be helpful if I measured the width of the head of the rail?
These are the measurements:
Width of foot: 30mm
Height of rail: 28mm
Width of head: 15mm
Fantastisch!!! Wie immer!!!
Danke!
Very nice, you guys need another flatbed car for rails too lol
We sure do! The shop is full at the moment, though. Bill is building a steam engine for one customer and stock cars and box cars for other customers. I help him out on the paying jobs for shop time on Mill Brook Railroad projects.
Thank you for sharing
Nice. Maybe get some nice rolling stock. Expensive of course, but you cant rely on just the one engine.
A tanker full of rubbing alcohol and one of Modge Podge would make setting that ballast easy.
Just don't light a match.
Are you extending your main line. Or are you building a branch line? Do you use your Railway to bring in logs for firewood to be cut up at the house
We're extending the mainline on this railroad. It'll be used to pull all the dead trees out of the woods when it's big enough.
Parabéns pelo belo vídeo.
great job,
Keep up the good work
You’re lucky. It’s fall, Let’s build some track panels! If you lived in north Texas where I do, summer was 8 months long this year. And fall only lasted 3 weeks.
Fall lasted four weeks this year. It's winter already.
nice job.
looks like you folks could use a Caboose with a Leaf Blower hidden in it to clear away the leaves from the ballast.
mayhaps 4 Flatcars to move track panels and other material instead of stacking atop the Hoppers.
stalling on a curved Grade usually is the result of not enough power being applied to the track resulting in wheelslip.
is there room inside the loco's hood to add some additional weight for better grip.
or
is there consideration toward adding a 6 axle loco to the railroad for more power that can handle those loads and not lose it's grip mid grade.
Currently, the discussion is more on adjusting the grade itself.
24:30 as I was saying, several factors work together, and thus against rolling stock "staying" on the rails.
We hadn't leveled the track yet. There hasn't been a derailment there since the track was leveled and tamped.
Let member this right. The ballast load needed a helper ? This is the collect thing ever, and the big kid I am , is jealous.
Heheh so cute. Such precious times :3
Hobo shoestring would be proud.
Indeed, he would.
Using steel allen head bolts with stainless steel nuts is a much better idea than using stainless bolts with stainless nuts. All stainless fasteners have a nasty habit of 'cold welding' themselves together, making removal a very painful job.
How does Bill fill the ballast triple? Front loader on tractor? You're tempting with a poker... I'll have to try that on my one inch scale.
It gets filled with the tractor bucket.
Would love to have a go doing that.
When I was a kid some 65 years ago I helped build an amusement park railroad called "The Carolyn Road". It was located near Albany, New York in the Village of Guilderland. Has anybody ever heard of it?
The amount of time and money that goes into must be crazy but if you ask me it looks to be worth it. Its beautiful
It's not as much money as you might think, but probably ten times the time you think.
Thanks for watching!
@@MillBrookRailroad nice job sir
That’s a beautiful layout.
I came across your video by accident, is this a leisure track or do you use is to haul stuff for the farm?
At the moment, it's not long enough to be useful yet but it'll be used for forestry management.