Neapolitan Chords: Favorite Examples from Mozart

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  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +299

    I just want someone to want me as much as that high note D wants to resolve into C# in 8:59.

    • @citizent6999
      @citizent6999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I played it through on the piano but found that a c# doesn't resolve anything. It was a disappointing effect.

    •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@citizent6999 If you only played G-B-D, sure, of course it has no tendency to resolve, because you play it like you're in G major. In G major, this note D is perfectly stable and has no desire to resolve into C#. But, remember, in this context here, we are in F# minor. You have to play from the beginning of the movement, not just jump into this measure. It is the context that makes it require resolution.

    • @JonathanDavis7
      @JonathanDavis7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@citizent6999 a very disappointing D then?

    • @citizent6999
      @citizent6999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JonathanDavis7 D will often disappoint

    • @MrAdamNTProtester
      @MrAdamNTProtester 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That will NEVER happen...

  • @DJKLProductions
    @DJKLProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The Neapolitan chord with the rising slow arpeggio in the 2nd movement of 23rd piano concerto by Mozart always let me hold my breath and let time stand still for a moment. Absolutely increadible!

    • @petermerelis
      @petermerelis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      has always been a favorite moment of mine as well. nice to now know how it works.

  • @pinecone8722
    @pinecone8722 5 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    These are the kind of videos I have scoured TH-cam for but are hard to find---there are tons of videos analyzing pop and jazz songs, but few that break down classical music in such a great way. For somebody interested in classical music but not deeply classically trained, I benefit so much from your breakdowns of these pieces. I look forward to your future videos on the individual Mozart pieces. I hope you'll take requests some time too!

  • @Joshburger196
    @Joshburger196 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I need a channel like yours. I came for the neopolitan chord, and I stayed for the analysis and (small) history lesson.

  • @sebclax5073
    @sebclax5073 5 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    That orchestra entry after the piano neapolitan is so luscious

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      One of the most inspired Mozart passages!

    • @thomaspick4123
      @thomaspick4123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Really? What did it taste like?

    • @seoulstn
      @seoulstn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomaspick4123 😂😂

    • @alexandrugheorghe5610
      @alexandrugheorghe5610 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@thomaspick4123 in Romanian we do have a word "napolitană" which means "wafer" so, therefore, I did giggle, understandably. 😅🤭😁😜✌🏻🙌🏻😝👌🏻 Tasty. 😂🤣🤔☺️😌🙂😁

    • @DanielFahimi
      @DanielFahimi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thomaspick4123 Neapolitan ice cream

  • @tobyelms6148
    @tobyelms6148 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My personal favourite is in Pamina’s lament called “Ach such Fuhl’s” from Die Zauberflote- give it a listen if you don’t know it; it’s so beautiful and difficult to sing!

  • @alexshih3747
    @alexshih3747 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    4:46 I've always loved the suspensions in the oboes here. Not many other composers could've thought of something so fitting to this particular moment. It really shows Mozart's gift for idiomatic woodwind writing.

    • @simpletwo4768
      @simpletwo4768 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Makes it sound like organ!

    • @elleboman8465
      @elleboman8465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mozart sure loved his woodwinds, and the feeling is mutual! /A bassoonist

    • @liangseng7474
      @liangseng7474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Another part that sounds similar can be found in the Overture to Cosi Fan Tutte

    • @davidbruce7244
      @davidbruce7244 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For me its the most beautiful part of a wonderful concerto.

  • @MartyMusic777
    @MartyMusic777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That sounds like the Levin interpretation of the Mozart Piano Concerto in D minor - no other player I know plays along with the orchestra before the written entrance because that's how it was done in Mozart's day.

    • @Sshooter444
      @Sshooter444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had the pleasure of hearing Levin play this live

    • @kuraga9147
      @kuraga9147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But there isn't it in the original manuscript. Although it appears in NMA score for the first time.

  • @brianbernstein3826
    @brianbernstein3826 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    my favorite Neapolitan chord is used throughout Chopin's F# minor polonaise (you'll know which one I mean ). he puts it in 3rd inversion, which Chopin does a lot, and sounds amazing

  • @alexshih3747
    @alexshih3747 5 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    1:58 My two biggest criticisms of music pedagogy (at least in the context of common-practice music theory) are that 1) most of the time, students are taught to blindly follow the rules of the period without being given adequate explanations for why the rules exist (in fact, they're often not even told that the rules are mainly relevant in a common-practice context) and 2) the almost exclusive focus on harmony, to the detriment of other important musical features. This is especially problematic because most forms of modern popular music have relatively unsophisticated harmonies and relatively sophisticated timbres and rhythms. If students think music is just harmony, they'll automatically dismiss some of the greatest 21st century music as boring or unsophisticated.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I agree with both of those. That's why I hardly ever focus on roman numeral analysis, which often just leads to fruitless arguments about the several possible accurate ways of labeling something.

    • @vivvpprof
      @vivvpprof 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Like what, Lady Gaga? :D

    • @alexshih3747
      @alexshih3747 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@vivvpprof I don't know much about Lady Gaga, but I'd say that Kendrick Lamar has produced some of the greatest music of the last few decades.

    • @vivvpprof
      @vivvpprof 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alexshih3747 I listened for a while to his "DNA" and it's basically re-worked folk music, e.g. th-cam.com/video/epKIGQOkm5c/w-d-xo.html

    • @rockifythis
      @rockifythis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@vivvpprof You're technically correct but that's a very reductive and simplistic view of hip-hop. It's like saying Chopin's mazurkas and polonaises are basically reworked Polish folk, that's right but it doesn't even begin to describe it, does it?

  • @sarahm5936
    @sarahm5936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the way Mozart handles the N6.

  • @jonathanp935
    @jonathanp935 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can't wait for k. 466 1st movement to be analyzed.

  • @airpanache
    @airpanache ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love when you said almost every Mozart’s piano concerto deserved its own video :) I’m sure he would’ve been proud of his piano concertos.

  • @richardyu3591
    @richardyu3591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you! beautifully explained! now that i see how Mozart used the Neapolitan sixth so masterfully within the context of each example, it has made me appreciate these (some of my personal) favourite Mozart pieces even more :D

  • @ze_rubenator
    @ze_rubenator 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Well this sure was an unexpected Christmas present. It's not even Christmas!

  • @gideonels
    @gideonels 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the best description and explanation of the N6 I have ever seen. It is true what you said - textbooks provide the 'theory' but actually listening and seeing the chord in 'action' like you did made so much more sense.

  • @byronrakitzis
    @byronrakitzis 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My favorite Neapolitan in Mozart: 40th symphony, last movement, second theme in the recapitulation. A sublime rising Ab major arpeggio in the winds.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@byronrakitzis I also love that one! Especially when the woodwinds take over.

    • @byronrakitzis
      @byronrakitzis 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Richard.Atkinson there are a lot of treasures in that recap: the rising chromatic scale in the 1st violins, followed by the "sighing" syncopated reply. The chromaticisms in the bassoons, accompanied by a horn pedal which suddenly drops all the way down to the fundamental. It shows he used exceptional care crafting this passage.

  • @mcnultyfp
    @mcnultyfp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like plenty! As a partially trained musician picking up his lute again, I couldn't be more pleased to find your channel. Both K.466 and K.488 are being recorded this week by Olga Pashchenko and Il Gardinello, using one of my fortepianos. It helps so much to try to get inside these pieces.

  • @cris.cooper
    @cris.cooper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Excelent video! Could you make a video about augmented 6ths? Italian, german and french. It’s a topic that I’ve never understood since school. Thanks!

    • @tangsolaris9533
      @tangsolaris9533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Awesome suggestion, I'm glad it's now been realized!

  • @matthiasm4299
    @matthiasm4299 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sweet, I attended a performance of the D minor concerto by Mitsuko Uchida just last week and was listening to the Levin recording earlier today. Seems like Mr. Atkinson has impeccable timing when it comes to his uploads! 😄 Great job as always!

    • @simonsmatthew
      @simonsmatthew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try and see and support other performers. A problem is the dominance of a few performers - Uchida, Ashkenazy etc that demand outrageous fees. To understand why this happens you need to understand the industry - which has tendencies towards monopolistic accumulation, like any other. It pays the major labels to have fewer artists and to promote them as 'great'. It allows them to avoid the higher risks and costs of promoting new and different artists. This convenient and self-serving arrangement keeps a certain hierarchy in place. For the health of music (and society) itself, it is a cycle that has to be broken.

  • @yehudaost.7039
    @yehudaost.7039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you are simply amazing. i listen to your lectures hypnotized!

  • @brettaspivey
    @brettaspivey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Actually the last example, the Dies Irae, I think is one of the most iconic uses of Neapolitan in all of music

  • @MaggaraMarine
    @MaggaraMarine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mozart also uses N6/4 and the tonicization of the Neapolitan in Piano Concerto No.24 (last movement).

  • @juanlamanna2574
    @juanlamanna2574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    K488, 2nd mov, is sublime. I understand it's the only movement he ever composed in the key of f sharp minor. I have struggled for decades to find the right tempo. Traditionally, Siciliani are a bit faster than what is usually played in this movement. Same can be said of Magic Flute's Ach, ich fuhl, which is often sung too slowly. However, it's hard to pull off the amazing depth of both of these masterpieces at a slightly quicker pace. I can't figure it out.

  • @jvenegas8868
    @jvenegas8868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally figured out why I like your videos so much. They remind a lot about my older brother's classes (university professor though in the completely unrelated discipline of physical therapy). I've had the pleasure of attending and helping with a few, and I love your videos as much as I loved those classes :)

  • @rabbibarrykornblau9877
    @rabbibarrykornblau9877 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Mozart didn't notate the 17:14 in flats as would be normal for Neapolitan harmony. He intentionally used sharps. Why? Because in addition to the passage and its C#m chord "simply sounding cool" as commenter above rightly observes (even as its chromatic voice leadings follow "the rules"), his sharps show us his harmonic intent.
    Previously he made an unusual move from Neapolitan (Db 6/4) to V to VI (A minor), messing with listeners' heads by successively using both available versions of the sixth pitch of the scale, Ab and A and their respective corresponding flatted and natural scale pitches.
    Now, he doubles down and uses the Neapolitan and all its implied flatted pitches to *briefly modulate* to plain old A minor with all its natural pitches - except G#.
    So he uses sharps all the way, with G# pedal (the only shared pitch between this Neapolitan and Am). First, C#M (over G#). Then G#7 (over G#). Then E# becomes E natural, leaving C#m (over G#). Then the D# becomes D natural 🤤 so we hear a E7 chord (still over the G#!), which resolves "conventionally" to the A minor chord (the other sharps we've been hearing now go away, too) which has been his destination all along - just as it was 1st time we heard it few measures back.
    In short, the sharps (in place of the expected flats) tell the reader and performers that he plans to redo his earlier highly unusual resolution of VI flat to VI natural (from the perspective of the C major which is the background to this whole paasage) but even more intensely than before (G#/Ab pedal, use of temporary dominant E7, etc).
    Anyway that how this man's ears hear it - and that's how Mozart notated it, too!

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I think you win!

    • @rabbibarrykornblau9877
      @rabbibarrykornblau9877 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Master Teacher, @@Richard.Atkinson - your approval made my day!

    • @shirakornblau5911
      @shirakornblau5911 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@rabbibarrykornblau9877 As his daughter, I can attest to the fact that it made his day. He is quite proud of his achievement 🏆🏆😄

    • @pnocella
      @pnocella 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nicely done--both the video and the analysis! So, the 2nd time (17:14) Mozart may have notated initially with flats but with the serendipitous move to the minor Neapolitan(!) saw an opportunity to move directly to VI (Am) by skipping the "middle man" V (G) thus deciding to use sharps, instead?

    • @oneeyemonster3262
      @oneeyemonster3262 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There're just Harmonic min b2 or Melodic min b2...or Enigmatic scales.
      Like the Double harmonic min or Harmonic min #4
      or Loc Maj7, ion #6, dor #5, phry#4, lyd #3, mix #2, aeo#1
      Aeo#1 transfer to (loc bb3, b4, bb7)
      oh..if you're familar with different scales..you'll be familar with variations of
      loc...loc bb7.. loc b4..loc maj6.. loc b4, bb7...ect..... Loc bb3, b4, bb7
      or Loc maj7.lol.....why Not?
      Keys are just PITCH of the MAJOR scale ( Reference)
      There's different ways to keep track of the 10-ea scales
      aeo dor
      Harmonic min melodic min
      Harmonic min b2 melodic min b2
      Harmonic min b5 melodic min b5 ( why not? :-P)
      Harmonic min #4 melodic min #4
      Ion #6
      .....
      What if I list it like this?
      aeo maj7 Harmonic min
      dor maj7 melodic min
      phry maj7 Harmonic min b2
      mix maj7 Ionian
      loc maj7 Ion #6
      dor b2 maj7
      dor #4 maj7
      dor b5 maj7
      aeo b2 maj7
      aeo #4 maj7
      aeo b5 maj7
      ......................
      dor b5 is the ii mode of Harmonic MAJOR
      mix b6, maj7 = Harmonic MAJOR
      mix b6 = V of Melodic min
      Aeo b5 is the iv mode of Melodic min
      Harmonic min b5 is the iii mode of HUNGARIAN MAJOR
      aeo#4 is the iv mode of Harmonic min b2
      aeo #4, maj7 is AKA Hungarian minor.
      They had to call them something..
      but I dont have a problem playing A min C dim into C# min
      I could had play A min B7 into E Major or E min
      ( A lydian b3 ( melodic min #4 = E Harmonic MAJOR)
      I could had play G#7 phrygian b4 ( 1, b4, 5, b7) into C# min..
      But hey.. C dim into C# min....works.
      it's the same as playing G7....B dim/G into C Maj..or C min
      but the A lydian b3 is also a possible dim or full dim
      Bb maj or Augment to G min G harmonic , melodic min
      Just incase you wanna play the G Mix #2 (A# note instead of Bb) :-P
      Any ways....back to the C# min/E MAJOR
      C# min....D maj7 E7 F# min /A MAJOR
      C# min D dim E7 A harmonic min or A harmonic MAJOR
      C# min D7 E7 A Melodic min
      C# min D min E dim into F MAJOR or F min....sort like F melodic min
      C# min D maj E Maj F# dim into G MAJOR or G min
      Do you see the D7......F#dim/D into G MAJOR or G min ?
      Notice the D, E or F chords....how they relate back to
      C MAJOR/Amin....if i want to modulated back to A min
      After the E MAJOR
      or I could had easily played F dim into F# min/A MAJOR
      F dim, G# dim into A min.
      or F maj. Fdim#G maj G# dim into A....whatever ..
      it'll be sort of the same movement...if
      I did it between the A Natrual min/C Major
      A min BbMaj, B dim, C maj, C# into D min
      Then the same from Dmin/F Major
      D min, Eb maj E dim F Maj F# dim G Maj G# into A
      or the same from E min/G MAJOR G# dim/aug into A
      or play the G# Maj to D7 ( V of G Major)
      Then play Eb Maj( apply it again)
      to the C min chord. ( as lydian b3 to G Harmonic MAJOR)
      I can play C dim ( B7) D# dim into E min
      or D7 into the G MAJOR..again
      There's all kinds of cool stuff you can do.
      I could had easily play C Maj C# dim into D min, EbMaj to C min
      Then G min, F min, E7 into A min again...
      Notice the Db/C# is a Maj3 stack below the F min DIAD
      G# or Ab is WH or b3 from
      F lydian #2 ( A harmonic min) Lydian b3 ( C Harmonic MAJOR)
      it'll sound sort of like play F min G7 into C Maj...
      You'll see/hear the iv as min....from time to time...
      for Cadence...or flavoring
      I can even play the Bb Maj after the A min...then alter the A to A MAJOR.
      it'll be as if I play A Maj. Bb maj, C Maj D min ( typical spanished guitar
      or using the D Harmonic min..A7 into D min
      or C# augmented into the D min chord ( II V I) back to C MAJOR..again
      if I wanted to...Then alter the C to C7 into F min, E7 into A min again.lmao
      Or play the Db..stack over the F min E min A min...for cadence.lol
      Then Bb dim C# dim into D Min again...hahahaaaa

  • @Martill3
    @Martill3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for this!! Absolutely love the example from the Dies Irae, what a breathtaking moment.

  • @CalebCarman
    @CalebCarman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’ve actually heard some musicologists make the case that tonality in the 18th century was still utilizing extended meantone tuning rather than equal temperament, which essentially means that a diatonic semitone - G#-A- is aurally wider than its cousin, the chromatic semitone - Ab-A. That would mean the section from the C Major Quintet in c-sharp minor is ever so slightly LOWER than the parallel passage in D-flat. Weird.

    • @cindytartt4048
      @cindytartt4048 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve tried to make the case that in parts of Italy this wasn’t always the situation (for want of a better word).

  • @paulanderson6834
    @paulanderson6834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favourite use of the Neapolitan chord is the one at the end of Bach's Passacaglia and Fugue.

  • @moirbasso7051
    @moirbasso7051 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This made theory fun! Love Mozart; all of his music bespeaks genius.

  • @mwong987
    @mwong987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome! I was analyzing that particular opening in the 2nd movement of the 23rd piano concerto last week and kept wondering why the G major chord felt so right in the key of F# minor. D major certainly has the effect of tonicizing the Neapolitan, and is result of the upward chromatic deceptive cadence at C#7. The effect is tremendous on the listener even if they don't know how it works!

  • @jillum89
    @jillum89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It probably doesn't count. I don't know enough about music theory. But I'm reminded of Mozart's Ach Ich Fuhl's, a death aria which constantly makes you believe that the music is about to modulate back to tonica, and then it takes a turn. (In my opinion, perfecly illustrating the agony and torture of wanting to die, and you feel so close, but you can't.) Half way through the music, it modulates to the dominant, and you're sure it's about to modulate to tonica and wrap up. But the chord rises by a semitone ... and btw, then the soprano explodes in an ff highnote of agony. I know it's not a neapolitan chord because it's over the dominant not the tonica. But I love it. I hope that explanation of a layman made somewhat sense. :'D

    • @Pawel_Malecki
      @Pawel_Malecki 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Ach, ich fühl's" is a break up aria, not a death aria.

  • @pawncube2050
    @pawncube2050 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I could pass at least 3 hours without stop watching your videos. Or even the whole day. +1 Subscriber, really good quality content there.

  • @adrianomeis184
    @adrianomeis184 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Super interesting! You have explained in the best and easiest way the N chord :)

  • @Jose-tl6uy
    @Jose-tl6uy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just wanted to say that I love your videos and always learn something new! Thanks for taking the time to share you knowledge!

  • @topquark22
    @topquark22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learned to compose music kind of like a language, the way I fluently use words, not thinking too much about the details of theory. But when I started to explore, for instance, the exposés of the Bach's WTC by Tim Smith, my musical productivity exploded. Now I know what I was really doing when I used Neapolitan chords in my own works! Thank you very much.

  • @michaelbrodsky1221
    @michaelbrodsky1221 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful video. The substance is frequently beyond my competence. But the video has been fashioned with love and that love is contagious.

  • @flaviocalaon__
    @flaviocalaon__ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have revolutionary my music life! THANK YOU!!!

  • @HaydenofEverything
    @HaydenofEverything 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tfw the orchestra kicks in after the piano solo in the K. 488 A Major Piano Concerto Movement 2 and you hear that violin arpeggio.

  • @citizent6999
    @citizent6999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's some lovely examples in the Rondo in A minor, K.511

  • @francescoperi7810
    @francescoperi7810 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, informative and clear (and really spot-on Italian pronunciation!)

  • @orb3796
    @orb3796 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have genuine love for how informative your videos are. Keep up the good work!

  • @eliasss8229
    @eliasss8229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    also the 3rd mov of schubert sonata in a minor d784 uses different Times the neapolitan chord in those arpeggios in contrary motion

  • @christopherphelps7917
    @christopherphelps7917 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's great that we can all look at Mozart's music and, even on as specific a point as the use of Neapolitan 6th chords, there can still be people saying "what about this one that you missed.." My personal favourite is omitted here: it's in the Act II finale of the Magic Flute, in the chorale prelude/fugue section, where Mozart adds an extra phrase to the Lutheran chorale he is quoting, puts a N6 into it, and uses this as a precursor to a modulation to Db that is quite possibly my favourite moment in his entire output, partly because of the audacity of the moment itself but partly because of the way he then resolves this conflict in the most sublime way possible over the next couple of minutes. Genius.

  • @davidmccourt9949
    @davidmccourt9949 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thankyou Richard. Yet another very informative and brilliant work.

  • @kevinmoore4237
    @kevinmoore4237 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your idea of teaching theory using the most insanely great passages. All of these are passages that jumped out at me as timeless hooks when I did a non-scholarly binge listening of all mozart's mature pieces.
    This part (@ 8:45) almost sounds like it's changed key temporarily to G.

  • @alialloush3579
    @alialloush3579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wounderful effort and knowledge ❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏 much appreciated.. i hope to see videos analysing whole peices

  • @Geopholus
    @Geopholus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Your examples and analysis,,, VERY INSPIRING ! ! !

  • @brunogripp
    @brunogripp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Die Zauberflöte has two Neapolitan chords I like a lot. At the end of Pamina's aria Ach ich fühl's, which reinforces the characters pain and in the beginning of the ending sequence in Der, welcher wandert diese Strasse voll beschwerden, which gives a kind of mysterious flavor.

    • @liangseng7474
      @liangseng7474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And also near the end of the Queen of the Night aria in Act II

  • @misi1979
    @misi1979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish that such a good audio and visual presentation such as this to have in My music school..SO clear and understandable...make Me wonder how it was so hard to understand this? Thank You Richard for this!:)

  • @hanemaung5293
    @hanemaung5293 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making this excellent video. That quintet is truly sublime. The subtle harmonic complexity and depth are extraordinary, especially given the deceptive simplicity of the thematic material and overall form. The enharmonically altered Neopolitan chord and C# minor chord in the recapitulation are utterly mystifying, yet somehow he know they'd make perfect sense. For me, this exemplifies what sets Mozart's music above everyone else's.

  • @thomasjohn5037
    @thomasjohn5037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved your analysis!! I just take the opportunity to mention one of my favourite neapolitan chord passage which is the codetta of 1st mvt of Beethoven's Waldstein sonata. Its a passage with two repeating phrases which are an octave apart. The Neapolitan doesn't appear in the exposition but only in the recapitulation, and that too only in the 1st phrase which is quite a memorable moment.

  • @de31.8
    @de31.8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an amazing, well produced video!
    You better believe that after watching it to the end I liked it and subscribed!

  • @stevegandy4203
    @stevegandy4203 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your analyses. They make me gain a deeper appreciation of these well known pieces. I wondered if you will ever analyze a piece by Tsaikovsky?

  • @StevenRogers-mero909
    @StevenRogers-mero909 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mozart's 20th Piano Concerto is, imo, the greatest piece of music I have ever heard. I think I listened to only this piece for an entire summer.

  • @mikegrossmanmusic
    @mikegrossmanmusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this.

  • @tomhamilton5707
    @tomhamilton5707 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great to understand this chord in context. Thanks a lot

  • @donaldgoodell7675
    @donaldgoodell7675 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Speaking of the Mozart Requiem, why not examine all the weird suspensions and otherworldly Harmonies in the Oro Supplex et Acclinis section (which apparently was just about done hen Constanza (they say) took the score away from him after 20th Nov 1791 when he had become bedridden with an apparent streptococcal infection which caused Rheumatic fever recurrences involving severe swelling of arms and legs...at any rate the lead into the Lacrymosa with the fermatas seem to have been a shortcut of what he might have originally intended (Eybler’s fussy handwriting seems to be involved in the last two bars before the Lacrymosa) - another video to put into your stable of Mozart studies !!

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Trying to analyse and situate that C sharp minor chord harmonically around 17:38 is a bit difficult.
    Still, I would say that the chord belongs to another tonality (hence, it modulates briefly) - to *A Major* - because it is easier to classify the chord and to understand the overall harmony.
    The C# chord and the next chord (E7 dom) don't, however, have a tonic quality in my analysis, hence I would analyse them both as one single chord that changes in quality in the second measure for two reasons:
    1) Because the bass tone is the same and;
    2) Because you can actually read the C# chord as a dominant (despite not sounding like one) and it would be labeled V6 (all in A Major).
    I hope I've been helpful and that my analysis makes perfect sense to you!
    Greetings!

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree that it makes most sense to describe the passage in terms of other tonalities, but the only one that makes sense to me is C# itself. I'm not sure how anything in that passage relates to A major at all. Can you explain what you mean?

    •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Richard.Atkinson I would label the overall harmony as A Major because I see the C# in that chord not as a tonic, but as a false anticipation to the tonic A. Still, there's no resolution of the tone, so instead it functions as a leading tone to the seventh of the dominant chord (D), that then resolves deceptively to A minor.

  • @fredrikhiller7238
    @fredrikhiller7238 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lovely! Thank you so much for creating these.

  • @threethrushes
    @threethrushes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a mere amateur music lover, I envy your command and fluency in the most beautiful language ever created.

  • @mozessiwang7751
    @mozessiwang7751 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a remarkable analysis video!Thanks Richard! And there's a tiny mistake, before the D7 It should be the K64 at the 12:57

  • @silverstonegg2349
    @silverstonegg2349 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, Richard! I agree too, that musical education tends to avoid 'adventurous' chords in harmony lessons.
    Edit: for anyone wondering, there is also a Neapolitan chord used in act 1 no 4 of the magic flute.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, three of the four examples in this video are not really that "adventurous." I'm more against using mundane, boring examples than I am against using simple examples.

    • @silverstonegg2349
      @silverstonegg2349 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Richard.Atkinson I know what you mean. I'm currently studying music in higher education in the UK, and when we learn how harmonise a melody in the style of Bach, its all I IV V, despite diminished 7ths often being used in chorales we've studied.

    • @valentins6279
      @valentins6279 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As I study music and therefore also music theory I totally agree with you.
      Speaking of the magic flute: I always loved the unexpected Neapolitan chord in the next-to-last bar of the no.17 Aria - it effects such a sadness truly summing up Pamina's despair.

  • @brucermorgan
    @brucermorgan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are doing a great service to music studies .

  • @lucadenti7219
    @lucadenti7219 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! I advise you to make a video about the use of the IV minor chord.

  • @liangseng7474
    @liangseng7474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also like the use of N6 at the Andante part of the Don Giovanni Overture, with the use of tremolo in the upper strings

  • @musik350
    @musik350 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The neapolitan chord also has a big role in Beethoven's op. 106.

    • @Ivan_1791
      @Ivan_1791 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello mate. :)

    • @elaineblackhurst1509
      @elaineblackhurst1509 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noah As does Haydn; this Neapolitan chord is actually quite common and part of the everyday language across all three of these composers.

    • @musik350
      @musik350 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@elaineblackhurst1509 What I meant to say though is that the Neapolitan chord does have a way bigger role in op 106. It acts as the harmonical antagonist to the main key in a fashion that can't be compared to anything that has been composed earlier.

  • @AndreaSergon
    @AndreaSergon ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for all this precious work ♥

  • @guitaraldo
    @guitaraldo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome, thank for this jewel!!

  • @matteogenerani5097
    @matteogenerani5097 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please, do “Best moments from each piece of Bach’s WTC I & II”

  • @Legomyegoorj
    @Legomyegoorj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the reasons why we call it the Neapolitan 6 chord has to do with its other name in the Music Theory Verse: flat II 6 (bII6). In some ways I prefer this other name because it more clearly conveys the idea of this harmony’s function in a phrase-it is a chromatic inflection of the iio6 in the Minor mode (most commonly). The bass note is the same, and the low form of the submediant (diatonic in Minor, of course) is also the same.
    This also helps to illuminate why it most often appears in 1st inversion rather than in root position. The iio triad (not seventh chord, just the triad) is extremely rare in nature since the fifth above the bass is a dissonant tritone. As such, in Minor, we really only see the iio6 triad, hence the chromatic inflection of that-bII6-is way more common than the root position version of that.
    Yes, I’m aware there are notable exceptions, like in that one C Minor Chopin Prelude everyone plays. It’s a great moment, but in that case the reason it works is because earlier in the piece, a root position Db chord occurs functioning as a predominant within a tonicization of VI. Then, when that Db occurs again in the same sequence as before, we are expecting an Eb chord (as the dominant to Ab) but instead get the G7 as the dominant to C Minor. Great piece.
    Also, although I wrote this long comment about one tiny comment you made about the name of the chord, I liked this video. You used very nice musical examples. What I would also have done is shown some ways that bII6 resolves to V. There’s at least three distinct ways I can think of: straight to V(7), having a viio7 of V in between the Neapolitan and the dominant like Mozart does in the Queen of the Night aria (works because contrary chromatic motion in outer voices), and also resolving to the cadential 6/4 to 5/3, as Mozart does in the A Major piano concerto you showed us.
    Cheers from a music theorist and pianist!

  • @TheMafouin
    @TheMafouin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great lesson, thank you for it

  • @cosmicsprings8690
    @cosmicsprings8690 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brilliant insight..plus Mozart is 300 years young this year.. you still rock Amadeus..

    • @jbckk8671
      @jbckk8671 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bryan Sturgeon
      He was born in 1756...

    • @cosmicsprings8690
      @cosmicsprings8690 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      jbckk ok thanks the guys on radio bbc3 did a concert for him last week you better tell them they was wrong

    • @cosmicsprings8690
      @cosmicsprings8690 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      jbckk nice one for the detail and maybe they played a study of his father so this would be the 300 year of that piece.

    • @ashleythorpe7933
      @ashleythorpe7933 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      265 years

  • @taylorpoole1053
    @taylorpoole1053 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the bit at 16:30. The Neapolitan section sounds to me like a tonicization of the Neapolitan, but the augmented 6th chord-the same exact notes as the dominant of the Neapolitan-sounds like a completely different chord.

  • @sockneman
    @sockneman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting. Thank you!

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The K. 488 example is one of my favorites, too! But I have to admit that the first example of a Neapolitan chord that came to mind was the ending of a Waltz in A-flat major (Act I, No. 2) from Swan Lake. In fact, that instance of the Neapolitan was exactly in the form you showed at 1:50.

  • @petergreen1869
    @petergreen1869 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant stuff.
    Many thanks sir.

  • @GianlucaCagnaniJSBGLORY
    @GianlucaCagnaniJSBGLORY 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Osmin's aria 'Trallalera' (Wer ein liebchen hat gefunden) from Mozart's Serail, has an incredibly intense N6 on the second 'Trallalera' ritornello, with a 9th over cellos and Cb!

  • @montanaricello
    @montanaricello 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video and great Italian pronounce!

  • @mariored4600
    @mariored4600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you recommend about a book who can teach how to read music like you do? It's such a great method!!

  • @brechelt1
    @brechelt1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Jazz explains this easier (subjective, I admit). Neopolitan chords = Tritone substitution of the V7. If the N had it's 7th (N7), both the N7 and V7 share the same 3 and 7 (but they're flipped). ie. C: N7 = Db-F-Ab-Cb, and V7 = G-B-D-F. They both have an F and B (Cb for the N7, but it's enharmonically the same note). (That "IF" is big, because in Mozart's writing the N7 wasn't used. However, it was a stepping stone to the modern treatment of the TT sub. One could say)

    • @JuanLucangioli
      @JuanLucangioli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting point of view. But I would say that the most similar thing to a Tsub at that time was the augmented sixth chord. Not just for its construction but also for its usage. It is a dominant chord and it's resolved half step down exactly like a V/V sub (Ab7 - G7 or Ab7-C/G-V7 if you wanna sound more mozart). In fact, the french augmented six chord has D in the Ab7 chord which is the #11 giving you the famous lydian b7 scale which is also the first scale any jazz musician would play over a Tsub. By the way Richard if you see this comment: a video explaining what scales mozart uses over the augmented sixth chord would be sooo interesting.

    • @ADarkandStormyNight
      @ADarkandStormyNight 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, I usually just avoid getting into it on things like a youtube comment thread, but actually this is an erroneous way to teach the N6. You frequently see it taught as a major triad built on the flat second scale degree, and this is totally wrong. The acoustic root of the N6, is in fact the fourth scale degree, which is why it is usually doubled. The flat second scale degree is functioning as a tendency tone, and is not at all functioning as the root. Much like how a cadential 6/4 is spelled like a I 6/4 but its in fact the V harmony, with two tendency tones, a similar thing is occurring here. Even in Rameau's treatise on Harmony, where,in 1722, the concept of chords having a root was first proposed, he made this distinction. The N6 is very much an alteration of the iv harmony. Having said that, your observation is still of course correct in that if you make it into a Dominant 7 chord it is the same pitch classes as a Tsub for the V. A similar constant misunderstanding related to the deceptive cadence, but that is a rant for another day lol. Anyway, that was my youtube comment quota for the year :)

  • @galenbrubaker5603
    @galenbrubaker5603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Parts of the second Mozart example really reminded me of Chopin with the way Mozart wrote the piano part

  • @lorenzmueller2355
    @lorenzmueller2355 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for pointing out those great examples!
    In German music theory, the standard term is "Neapolitanischer Sextakkord". Most music theorist would be extremely hesitant to simply call the string quintet example a "Neapolitan". The standard explanation consists in claiming that it basically is a minor IV with a flat sixth instead of the fifth (usually pointing out to the fact the chord originated in minor tonalities and subsequently spread to major tonalities). Yet there seems to be more to it; you simply cannot deny its link to a flat II.
    As in many other cases (whats a iii actually??) some aspect of mystery remains :)

  • @rilke1791
    @rilke1791 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should make a video of you explaining how to avoid composing mistakes and how make your writing better.

  • @violinhunter2
    @violinhunter2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Flute Quartet in D and the Sinfonia Concertante would have been nice choices, too - if you had picked them. Nevertheless, you did choose three of my favorite Mozart masterpieces. Thank you.

  • @ironmaz1
    @ironmaz1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks I am too happy to be watching this before sleep :) My amateur brain, still a fledgling in music, always wondered what a Neapolitan chord was. The examples you give and the explanation help me feel its sound... and ofc Mozart equals

  • @fe12rrps
    @fe12rrps 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you. great video!

  • @pietrotralongo3655
    @pietrotralongo3655 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Complimenti da Palermo! Wonderful video

  • @caterscarrots3407
    @caterscarrots3407 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The Neopolitan chord reminds me of the minor key, even though I see it used about equally in major and minor. Why is it that when I hear a Db major chord resolving to G major, I expect the tonic resolution to be C minor, when realistically, it is just as likely to resolve to C major? Is it because of the closer relationship between C minor and Db major, Ab major being the bridging chord between the two? Is it because the Neopolitan resolution is more powerful in minor keys?

    • @jamesoconnell1022
      @jamesoconnell1022 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      My guess is maybe because the neapolitan is the diatonic II chord in the phrygian, which is a minor mode and is used reasonably commonly as a brief modal variation on the natural minor in romantic music.

    •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In major keys, the Neapolitan chord has two altered notes, the lowered second scale degree and the lowered sixth scale degree. It is the latter of the two that is like a descending leading tone, that has this burning desire to resolve into the fifth scale degree (you can feel it a few seconds after 8:40, the note D in the N6 chord just cries to resolve to C#). This gives it this very dark, very predominant sound, that we associate with minor keys, even when it happens in major, because in minor, this is not an altered note. I would argue that when it comes to minor keys, it is their sixth scale degree that is more characteristic than their third scale degree (i.e. it is the sixth scale degree that gives the minor keys their "minorness" more than the third scale degree). This is why the ascending melodic minor scale, with its raised sixth and seventh degrees, sounds like a major scale to me (with the third degree being just an altered or misplayed note).
      Unrelated to the Neapolitan chord, this sixth scale degree is also the reason why plagal cadence in minor (iv-i) was avoided throughout the history of music, until the 19th century. It lacked that calmness that plagal cadences have and was considered soul-crushingly depressing to the point of being bad taste, and composers almost always added the so-called Picardy third to the final chord (iv-I). This is also one of the reasons why some musicologists believe that it was not Bach who composed the famous Toccata and Fugue in d minor (at least not in its current organ arrangement) but that it is perhaps a 19th century arrangement of some lost violin work by Bach, because the Fugue ends with a minor plagal cadence without the Picardy third, which would have been rather offensive to the 18th century ear.

    • @alexshih3747
      @alexshih3747 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@jamesoconnell1022 Also, the fifth of the Neapolitan chord is diatonic to the minor mode, not the major mode. It also probably helps that the past few centuries of composers have mainly used the Neapolitan in the minor mode.

    • @tinibari456
      @tinibari456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      yeah, it just seems to be more common in minor from what I've heard, and James got it right, the Neapolitan chord essentially is a chord in minor, but minor with a flat second, aka Phrygian.

    • @camerongreider6447
      @camerongreider6447 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Neapolitan is much more common in minor.

  • @PrinceWesterburg
    @PrinceWesterburg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the outstanding video. You should break up the chat and explanations into shorter chunks though - explain as the piece unfolds then replay the whole section.

  • @lr1594
    @lr1594 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Do you think Mozart's Siciliano could have been inspired by the famous Siciliano in BWV 1031 (the flute sonata), seeing as the first 5 notes of the melody are identical (but in a different key)?

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe! It's funny because I knew the BWV 1031 Siciliano before I knew any of Mozart's piano concerti, because there was a simplified version in the piano books of my older siblings. I remember having the same reaction you did when I first heard K. 488.

    • @giobrach
      @giobrach 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kind of like how, in turn, the famous opening of the slow movement of BWV 1056 (in its previous form as an oboe concerto) was inspired by a Telemann concerto!

  • @alpe3929
    @alpe3929 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job, so clear to understand. thanks.

  • @MasonIshida
    @MasonIshida 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love that example from Mozart’s string quintet. Also, I’m curious what you would have to say about the strange harmonic shifts Carlo Gesualdo’s music.

  • @giomejia11
    @giomejia11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro, I understand everything, great explication!

  • @smuecke
    @smuecke 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    9:05 reminds me quite strongly of _Qui tollis_ from Bach's Mass in B Minor. I wonder if Mozart drew inspiration from that.

  • @danal81
    @danal81 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice presentation. Carefully thought out. Thank you

  • @babbayagga100
    @babbayagga100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting that at 12:26, the strings all have pizzicato marked, but the violins continue to use the bow. Anybody know why?

  • @harczymarczy
    @harczymarczy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For me, the term "Neapolitan sixth chord" seems to be borrowed from the German terminology which is WAY more precise than the Hungarian one, and, at least at basic level, it may also be easier to learn. First of all, the terms Grundstellung, Sextakkord (~"sixth chord") and Quartsextakkord ("fourth-sixth chord") are used for root position, first and second inversion (of triads) respectively. Any literal translations of these terms may lead to confusion BUT IMHO they are way more straightforward to learn because they reflect the actual structure of the inversions relative to the bass. The English-terminology "sixth chords" are better to be called "added-sixth chords" (cf. French "sixte ajoutée"). But, in fact, they are the same as the first inversion of seventh chords (in German: Quintsextakkord "fifth-sixth chord"). The other two inversions of seventh chords are called "Terzquartakkord" ("third-fourth chord") and "Sekundakkord" ("second chord").
    NB. I'm Hungarian and the Hungarian terminology is very close to the German one (which is indeed, in fact, way more elaborated).
    N6 is the Neapolitan sixth chord, but it also exists in several other forms (N46, N, N7, N56, N34, N2 where N7 etc. actually are the Neapolitan major seventh chord and its inversions). And, yes, n6 ("minor Neapolitan sixth chord") etc. also exists, although it's predominantly a chord of the Romantic era.

    • @phl0w666
      @phl0w666 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a German native speaker I have to concur. German nomenclature in harmonics makes it so much easier for students to translate triads/chords, and arpeggios to the keys.

  • @ThatViolaKid
    @ThatViolaKid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That ending is soooow wild!!! Hard to believe it was Mozart O_O I really wish he could have lived longer :(

  • @i-told-you-sodear1526
    @i-told-you-sodear1526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let me understand it right. The Neopolitan chord is a substitution of the supertonic chord. For example: Instead of II-V-I it would be IIb-V-I. That somewhat similar to the tri-tone substitution in Jazz. In Jazz, the dominant V7 can be substituted for a IIb7 because their 3rd and 7th note of those two chords are the same. For example in the key of C: Dm G7 C can be tri-tone substituted for Dm Db7 C.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, it's just the jazz theory name for the same thing (though I don't believe it's describing the same function).