I do wonder how much of what I think of as jazz harmony is appropriated c19 harmony. We’d call this dom13th. I’d expect Tin Pan Alley to have borrowed a lot of this stuff ‘off the shelf’ so to speak. Standards often have 3-1 as a final melodic cadence. All of me and All the things being good examples
Well, a lot of older jazz is mostly based on ii V I in different keys. Giant Steps too. I think that's pretty "classical logic" - not sure how it differs from the logic presented in this video. What made Giant Steps unique wasn't the fact that it used ii V I to modulate to keys a major 3rd apart (there was nothing new about that on its own back then). What made it unique was how fast it modulated from one key to another. It never spends more than 2 measures in a single key. And since it only uses keys a major 3rd apart, it kind of creates a "never ending loop" where none of the keys feels like the "main key". It's pretty much equally in all of the three keys. And because these keys are quite distant from one another, it makes improvising over the tune quite challenging (especailly considering its fast tempo). The modulation here works differently, though, because it uses a common tone in the melody. Giant Steps doesn't do that. But the melody of Giant Steps is still mostly based on a sequence. Why this also reminds of Giant Steps is because the latter half uses a similar descend with scale degrees 3 and 2 in the melody. It doesn't continue to the tonic, though, but leaps up to the 5th instead.
6:40 der Neapolitaner mit Nonenvorhalt hat mich gerade völlig von den Socken gehauen, und dann noch die darauf folgende #1 Stufe, auf die ich noch weniger vorbereitet war... bII -> #I ?!? Wow. Mein harmonisches Repertoire wurde wieder erweitert. Danke für das Video!
@@en-blanc-et-noir Yes! Thank you, I have watched that video but I was wondering if you could do a video specifically on Rachmaninoff. Everything from his structural integrity, harmony, smart writing and attention to detail which is fascinating. I am sure that you could pull off a 20 minute video.. It's up to you.. I like your videos very much.
I personally love the piece at the end ❤ , it's so emotional ... Thanks for the awesome content,as an amateur composer your videos are really helpful, keep up the good work ❤
A very interesting Chopin resolution I’ve came across (2nd piano concerto, fantasy in F minor) is resolving the V7 in a dominant of the Neapolitan, therefore resolving the leading tone upwards as normally but going a semitone down with the bass. Example, G7 with B in the soprano leads to Ab7/Gb with C in the soprano. Very emotional and unexpected resolution
YO that's a classic! There is a comparable device used by Mozart and Czerny occasionally where you have e.g. a G7/F where the 7th in the bass resolves into an E7 as Dominant to A Minor, Mozart would pic up such a device in the developements of the piano concertos. What you're describing is a very interesting thing though, those strategies to tonizise the Neapolitan are obviously a thing that romantic composers had a certain tendency towards. IMO Scriabin is the king of that game...
Whats the way to learn the various RO's? Which is your favorite or the most use in your opinion? Maybe even make a video running through how it works or how we can come up with "our own".
00:00 Intro
00:18 Basics
02:04 Level 1
03:07 Level 2
04:16 Level 2 Modulating Exercise
06:22 Level 3
08:07 Level 3 Modulating Exercise
Put this in the description, so the video will be properly divided
As a Jazzer, that’s just a standard D13 for me! With the 13th on top it’s great for voice leading and resolution to the tonic. Great video as usual!
I do wonder how much of what I think of as jazz harmony is appropriated c19 harmony. We’d call this dom13th. I’d expect Tin Pan Alley to have borrowed a lot of this stuff ‘off the shelf’ so to speak. Standards often have 3-1 as a final melodic cadence. All of me and All the things being good examples
Funny how quickly something “contemporary” like the descending M3rds of Giant Steps can be generated with “classical” logic.
2nd example I immediately thought of Coltrane's "26-2" :D
But the modulation that created Giant Steps actually came from classical music theory. That’s where Coltrane got it from.
I‘ll check out that tune
@@pjbpiano don't tell it to a jassist, their brains might melt
Well, a lot of older jazz is mostly based on ii V I in different keys. Giant Steps too. I think that's pretty "classical logic" - not sure how it differs from the logic presented in this video.
What made Giant Steps unique wasn't the fact that it used ii V I to modulate to keys a major 3rd apart (there was nothing new about that on its own back then). What made it unique was how fast it modulated from one key to another. It never spends more than 2 measures in a single key. And since it only uses keys a major 3rd apart, it kind of creates a "never ending loop" where none of the keys feels like the "main key". It's pretty much equally in all of the three keys. And because these keys are quite distant from one another, it makes improvising over the tune quite challenging (especailly considering its fast tempo).
The modulation here works differently, though, because it uses a common tone in the melody. Giant Steps doesn't do that. But the melody of Giant Steps is still mostly based on a sequence. Why this also reminds of Giant Steps is because the latter half uses a similar descend with scale degrees 3 and 2 in the melody. It doesn't continue to the tonic, though, but leaps up to the 5th instead.
Mind blowing as always. That last piece is like chopin turned into something that could be a modern film score sound
6:40 der Neapolitaner mit Nonenvorhalt hat mich gerade völlig von den Socken gehauen, und dann noch die darauf folgende #1 Stufe, auf die ich noch weniger vorbereitet war... bII -> #I ?!? Wow. Mein harmonisches Repertoire wurde wieder erweitert. Danke für das Video!
More of this type of content please. We all love the romantic sound. Instant stank face. 😇
👏👏👏Thanks for the three different levels! Such a great way of learning even though I’ll be working on levels one and two for some time…
do something related to Rachmaninoff's harmony and texture
tried this one yet? th-cam.com/video/NCPueHsXQhA/w-d-xo.html
@@en-blanc-et-noir Yes! Thank you, I have watched that video but I was wondering if you could do a video specifically on Rachmaninoff. Everything from his structural integrity, harmony, smart writing and attention to detail which is fascinating. I am sure that you could pull off a 20 minute video.. It's up to you.. I like your videos very much.
The last prelude reminds me of Chopin op 45. You are the GOAT...beeeh
I personally love the piece at the end ❤ , it's so emotional ... Thanks for the awesome content,as an amateur composer your videos are really helpful, keep up the good work ❤
2:56 Giant Steps.
Wallah! Mit diese Romantic-Style kannst du die Ischen klar machen. Ischwör', Bruder! 😇
Funnily that sounded a bit more like Brahms than Chopin.
A very interesting Chopin resolution I’ve came across (2nd piano concerto, fantasy in F minor) is resolving the V7 in a dominant of the Neapolitan, therefore resolving the leading tone upwards as normally but going a semitone down with the bass. Example, G7 with B in the soprano leads to Ab7/Gb with C in the soprano. Very emotional and unexpected resolution
YO that's a classic! There is a comparable device used by Mozart and Czerny occasionally where you have e.g. a G7/F where the 7th in the bass resolves into an E7 as Dominant to A Minor, Mozart would pic up such a device in the developements of the piano concertos.
What you're describing is a very interesting thing though, those strategies to tonizise the Neapolitan are obviously a thing that romantic composers had a certain tendency towards. IMO Scriabin is the king of that game...
Whats the way to learn the various RO's?
Which is your favorite or the most use in your opinion?
Maybe even make a video running through how it works or how we can come up with "our own".
Und hab vallah Auge gemacht auf das Level 3 Modulation Exercise, ohne Spaß. 👀😅 Vielen, vielen Dank für deine Videos.
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2:53 giant steps ;-)
that end piece was incredible
What an excellent video, again! Thanks
Where can I get that t-shirt?!
1:18
This is fantastic! Many many thanks!
Wish you had marked the chords degrees used clearly like II V I
Instructive content !
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I wonder if chopin himself would ever do stuff like this to practice for later compositions and to play his own pieces
He sure did a lot of this kind of stuff in his young days. 👏
He was a master improviser so he almost certainly was a master of using any chord.
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@@en-blanc-et-noir haha touché
The piece at the end is giving big "Sad Count" vibes.
Amazing job ❤! The end was really nice and it's always nice to see you in action !
Very nice!
Great vid
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Who is the most right figure when you mention the GOATs at 7:35
you gotta recognize Scriabin✌️😝