Icom IC-705 PAT Winlink Setup | Ham Radio Raspberry Pi
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- Hello Operators
Todays video is a Ham Radio Raspberry Pi tutorial for the Icom IC-705 and eventually other radios. We will be using a new setup script call the Easy Mode setup for PAT Winlink running on a raspberry pi. This raspberry pi project will be the fastest and easiest version of PAT Winlink available, and perfect for someone just learning ham radio basics with a raspberry pi. Where traditional organisations like ARES have focused on EMCOMM (emergency communications) for disaster relief, regular people are increasing their skills and capabilities, by adopting asynchronous modes like Winlink and JS8Call, for preparedness communications. I beleive this PAT Winlink update, will both both camps.
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if you're having connection problems, Here's one of the short answers.
ATM the CIV for the ic-705 needs to mimic the ic-7300 94h, for rig control. This will change in future updates.
it's also important to understand the 705 is quite picky about your USB cables. Make sure you use a quality USB cable. you can test a good connection for your Raspberry Pi by looking at the audio inputs and outputs icon on your top/bottom menu. You'll see a USB Codec or Input once you 705 is plugged in. if not try a new cable.
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Julian #oh8stn
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Hello Operators.
If you're having connection problems, Here's one of the short answers.
ATM the CIV for the ic-705 needs to mimic the ic-7300 94h, for rig control. This will change in future updates.
it's also important to understand the 705 is quite picky about your USB cables. Make sure you use a quality USB cable. It can be tested by checking the audio inputs and outputs icon on your top/bottom menu. You'll see a USB Codec or USB Input once the 705 is plugged in. if not, try a new cable.
As always thank you for your testing. Please feel free to share your testing results even if it's a fail, in the comments. This way we all learn and the get-help can be updated.
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Julian oh8stn.
Excellent video as always, Julian, but I get an error message on startup saying "could not initiate connection with rig on /dev/ttyACM0". My 705 is working fine with WSJT-X so I believe the USB cable and CIV settings - 94h - are correct. If you have thoughts I'd welcome them! Thanks in advance.
I'm not a technical guru and I have nothing against the raspberry pi system, but what I'm wondering is why we're even bothering when we all got a mini computer with a built-in screen, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, battery, and charge controller system in our pockets. It's called a cell phone. It seems to me the real issue is why these great programs haven't had a baby and slapped it on the Android or ISO system. We are still patchworking things. I understand the issue is technology isn't quite there yet but I think that's something we need to be striving towards. 🤷🏻♂️
Kenneth you're preaching to the choir man. I completely agree with you! In fact I just posted an Instagram post today asking this very question. I even said ffs, I would pay a ridiculous amount of license fees if I could just have an Android version of winlink and/or JS8Call.
@@OH8STN you might be on to something there. 🤔
I'd pay $20 for a android version of js8 and Winlink and maybe they should do enterprisale license to help fund the development on platforms outside of windows. We got these great proven systems and we just need to get them merged into one suite like ham radio deluxe and transmission schemes just get uploaded to on board library. Once the base system is established, uploading different transmission algorithms should have a much lower dev cost. Like FLmsg. You just pick the mod you want and go with it. 🤷🏻♂️
You could even pay a license fee to open up the mode inside of the program like a micro transaction. The old stuff is free and the new stuff gets a license fee to help the developer. 🤔
Great seeing the 705 in action for what it does best combined with a Pi. At my QTH, will still run Winlink Express because of the availability of VARA FM stations in my area. But when running portable, PAT on the Pi is the way to go. To me, I get the best options no matter where I am at. Thanks Julian for helping make it easy ! 73 de KM6TRZ
You're very welcome Don. I fully agree on your assessment. When portable I'll use the Raspberry Pi. When I have good power or enough power for example at home, I'll use my yoga laptop with Vara and Winlink Express. I'll tell you guys about the next project in the other group we have together.
As always thanks for the support and the kindness.
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Thank you for these instructional videos, I've been trying several as learning projects. Also, love your intros - its your brand and very recognizable. Please keep these videos coming... ;)
Very interesting Julian and informative, I just ordered my F loop 2.0 Plus and hope it turns up tomorrow so I can try some of you experiments with my 705. 73's
You're going to have a blast with a 7:05 and the F Loop Steve. Thanks for watching and for the comment. It's very much appreciated.
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@@OH8STN hopefully it helps me null out the local qrm i get at times and gives me a better performance than my very compromised antenna situation i am in.
Hi julian,
I have watched your video, this all is new for me.
Just this weekend i have my Raspberry pi 4 running with js8call.
I see the benefit of winlink and all the equipment
i will start at the begin off all your video to understand more of this.
So far , many thank👍🏻
Ron,Pd3ron
Enjoyed learning that -Thanks
Looking forward to seeing how you get on with the TX-500 once you are finished with the 705
Hi Julian, the only trouble with 60m in the UK is that most Winlink Gateways are outwith the UK allocation which is a pity. I had to drop down to 80m to send any messages at the weekend due to the RTTY contest. Thanks for another great video. De MM0XET
Awesome video Julian! You always provide excellent information that is very useful for those of us who operate in challenging environments (I live a bit further north than you in Alaska) Happy New Year...looking forward to your future videos! Cheers
FWIW, I actually did manage to get the Winlink sysop software + VARA FM working on my Raspberry Pi 4B (albeit with Windows 10 for ARM installed instead of Linux)--and headless, too. I imagine one would at least be able to run Winlink Express on a similar setup. Still, I wish VARA HF/FM would get ported to Linux, even if it's binary-only or something.
BTW, you'd definitely want to boot it off of an SSD and not an SD card if you go this route. And you'll want at least 4GB RAM on your rPi, if not 8GB. (Plus, it's Ethernet only at the moment--no built-in Wi-Fi support--so you'll need a Wi-Fi dongle or Ethernet support on your laptop/tablet.)
This is definitely one option. Unfortunately the Raspberry Pi running Windows is not very stable, but you did as an option. The bigger problem is software Developers weren't thinking about mobile platforms when they started developing things like winlink express. Thanks for sharing your experience. Perhaps this is something we should do on the channel as well.
Thank you and what you showed is a very good improvement for the rest of us. Something as important as email in an emergancy you need an easy way to get it messages working. PS you have good points on the 705 but I will keep my KX2.
Thanks.
I was hoping PAT would become easier to install for non-Linux users. JS8Call, FLDigi, WSJT-X are all well done and easy to deploy on Raspberry Pi. So thinking, why not PAT!?
KX2 is a nice rig. I just wish the internal battery could be charged in the field.
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Good stuff again, Julian! Happy New Year to you and yours! 73 de KF5RHI
Thanks Richard, got to keep moving forward. Happy New Year and I hope you guys are safe in that craziness back home.
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@@OH8STN Yup, doing fine. Thanks! I'm working from home for a couple weeks then going back to the office!
I have been looking forward to this video! Thank you for doing this!
Great video, this information is much appreciated.
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Julian oh8stn
Another great video, Julian. I hope things are going well in the “old country” (my grandparents left Finland in 1880-1908 time frame). I have been licensed for a couple of years and haven’t been on HF yet. I have a Kenwood TS-590SG with a RSP1a for pan adapter for my QTH. I am considering setting up a Pi (Pi & Linux are my happy place). You videos have been helpful to give me ideas. Oh, one question on the Buck Converter - have you monitored that small Buck for RFI? Thanks again for your videos. All the best, 73 de KI5HXM
Julian, thank you for the great video!!
I hope that in future it will perhaps also work with the Yaesu FT817
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You are very welcome. Max VK2XOR has already planned on expanding the list of radios supported. I have an 81x here to test, and am willing to do so :)
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Two questions 1 what version of pat is included within this install and can new versions be installed under this software. 2 can the forms like those in winlink express be loaded and updated ? Thanks for a great video. This is something I have been looking for.
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Russ
KC7WVQ
Hi Julian. I finally was able to configure PAT on the Pi and get it to see the IC705, yesterday night I just did a quick test and it was keying the radio and transmitting. This morning it only keys the radio for a split second and then stops with out transmitting anything. I then get this error in the terminal "ALSA lib pcm.c:2565:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM ARDOP". How can I resolve this? Did you have similar issues. As always, thanks for your time.
Hello Julian. Wonderful video, as always. Wishing you and your family all the best in the coming year. John N6NRO
Thanks for the kindness John. Also wishing you and your family a wonderful New Year.
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I cannot wait to try this once I get my Pi set up! (I forgot to get a micro HDMI adapter so I'm stuck waiting till next week :cry:). I do have one question somewhat incidental to this video. Is there a particular cable you are using to connect your LightSaver Max to the ic-705 or did you make your own? I have noticed that the ic-705 uses a 2.5mm barrel for DC in and the LightSaver uses 2.1mm for DC out. I have just settled on using an adapter to convert the 2.1mm to 2.5mm but I'd prefer a cleaner solution.
The biggest trouble we have with Winlink on the Pi is that it doesn't have all forms! Our ARES uses the forms. I have seen some information about the forms can be put in the Pi Winlink but don't update automatically.
Yes forms are a big issue. Ultimately what we really need can't be done with PAT. We need a full port of Winlink Express for Linux
Great video. I installed PAT WINLINK with the handy Build-A-Pi script but I need to start using it before I need to use it.
Much as I love the Pi as a fully functioning shack computer, for mobile operations it would be great to have a rugged Android tablet with its own user interface. Maybe someone will develop that. It would immediately become THE portable comms solution.
Have you configured Pat yet?
Hi Julian,
I can't get WSJT to work on my Raspberry Pi with the 705, FLRig works but then WSJT-X crashes so I've given up for now and use my small Windows 10 notebook, but did you ever discover if DATA audio could be used via Bluetooth ? I managed to connect my 705 Bluetooth serial port and WSJT-X will enable PTT but no sound card codec appeared in Windows so I couldn't use it cable free.
Thank for the videos.
Best 7 3 Mike G1ZRN.
Freaking fantastic man, thanks.
I know this is an old video. I do have a question though. I am the EC for my county's ARES group. Regular winlink uses forms to format messages for various agencies such as RedCross, fema, Salvation Army, and other government and NGOs. Does the latest version of Patwinlink support forms yet or are there plans to support forms.?
Thanks and 73
Russ Harmon
Kc7wvq
Salt Lake County ARES EC
There is no good way to get forms with Pat winlink that I know of. This was one of the reasons for moving back to a Microsoft Surface.
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Julian oh8stn
Were you broadcasting with the loop indoors when you made it 800+km?
Unfortunately I don't remember.
Has a version of the PI come out with all of this preloaded and ready to go? Thanks
Unfortunately not. In fact it's quite difficult to even find a Raspberry Pi these days.
Nicely done, thank you Julian. 73, dd5uk
You are very welcome
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julien, i struggle to make it work with the xiegu g90 ... have you ever got that combination working? i suspect the "CV-V" code configuration ... it does not seem to find the rig
(js8call works on the same raspi/rig.. so the low hanging fruits have been harvested :-))
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I had exactly the same problem with Pat winlink on the X5105 Angie 90. I've never got them to work sorry 😒
@@OH8STN then i feel less like an idiot hi. should i ever figure out how it works I'll let u know.
Hi Julian - Looking at the video it appears that you are using a Raspberry Pi 4 - micro USB to USB-A, is this correct? Any thoughts how this might work on a Pi 3? (Pi 4's are hard to find in the USA) Best ... Ken
The OTG cable is the key not the rpi model 👍
@@OH8STN Just a short follow-up, happy to report all is working fine (Pi4, IC-705, Winlink, Fldigi, Flrig, etc.) -- just one USB cable between the Pi4 and 705, one power connection to each and using the Build-a-Pi install. I still like the idea of a Pi and wireless interface from any device, I can have redundancy of another Pi and MicroSSD card on standby and yet use any device to connect. -- I'm just a year late to the party!
Very nice video. I think you can run the raspberry pi as a virtual machine on Android...
Fantastic guide! Is there any technical reason VARA isn’t supported? Or is it just a software delay thing? Thank you Julian! 73
It's all about the Vara HF developer. He has no plans to port Vara HF to Linux 😥 at the this forces many of us to use ARDOP portable working, Vara HF when on the desktop. Perhaps when we shine a light on this, we might change the developers mind. I've definitely buy a license.
Thanks for watching and for the kindness. Much appreciated.
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Hi Julian...I have serious problems with noise, when i connect Pi to 705. Waterfall full of noise ( every 10kHz ) ... I have try many different USB cables, but no luck. Any ideas? Thanks, DE OM4MO and thanks for awesome vids! 73
Disable USB charging in the 705 settings, when you connect the 705 to a Raspberry Pi. In addition to this choose a quality power supply for your Raspberry Pi.
@@OH8STN it runs on bateries, usb charging is disabled...
VARA is awesome but must run on low power devices (Pi) in order to be a useful for emergency. can not carry a notebook. as soon as VARA is running on PI I will pay USD 70
Installation worked smoothly, but it won't see my IC-705. I just grabbed a random micro USB cable I found in the house - it's possible that cable only carries power. Will find/buy a good quality micro USB cable and try again.
Nope. It's not the cable. Can't connect on /dev/ttyACM0
Hmmm.
Usually it is one of two things, a poor quality US cable, or the connectors menu has not been enabled for data modes on the 705. I had a tough time finding a good USB cable. Once I did, it all worked fine:
Having trouble with the Ras. I get a cannot connect error when trying to connect to local 127.0.0 for the WinLink setup. Any suggestions?
127.0.0.1
Sorry if I missed it, but what are you using as the wireless monitor?
An Android tablet or smartphone. Sometimes even my laptop. It doesn't really matter what you use oh, I just use what I have. In this video there was the Samsung Galaxy Tab S5e and S8
@@OH8STN thanks
Julian, have your heard about any possibility that there might be a Linux version of VARA? I really like VARA and wish it could run under PAT.
I straight-out asked the developer. He doesn't think anyone would support the development of Linux. So he's sticking with windows at the moment
@@OH8STN Has anyone tried to use WINE with VARA?
Once again, awesome video! Thanks! 73 de K6EF
You're welcome Mark. I hope this gets more people on Winlink 👍
Great show give me lots of ideas many thank 73 de 2e0ree
Interesting Andy, please share your ideas.
Someone can explain step by step how create accounts?
When you're running the installation with the easy mode patch script, leave the password field blank. When you start patwin link for the first time, create an email to anybody. Then connect with telnet to send that email out. The winlink system will send you a password when you connect to telnet a second time. Write that password down, then re-run the easy mode Pat script installation again. Use that password you received as the password during the installation. That's it.
Nice!! Can you run 2m packet as well as Pat? 73 de KF7VUT
Not yet, just HF at the moment.
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Yes via ax25 direwolf.
I make test p2p ax25 between Baofeng 82 and Ic706. Works.
Do you think that the IC-705 can be used as a digipeater using just a usb cable to connect to the raspberry pi running direwolf?
Definitely, but it won't be full duplex since the 705 only has a single radio. Other radios for example the d700 d710, they have dual transmitters receivers for full duplex repeater operation. The full duplex aspect is missing from the 705. But if it's a half duplex repeater or digi, 100%
@@OH8STN i just ordered mine, you literally sold me with your excellent videos. I was planning as using it as a portable digital mode system and when i am home, leave it on VHF APRS digipeater.
Julian, do I need to load the ICOM drivers on the PI 5?
Icom drivers were embedded in the kernel on previous versions. Plug it in a check. You can't damage anything
@@OH8STN Thank you Julian, when the PI 5 gets here I will check. I use NBEMS and WINLINK for EMCOMM via a LENOVO Thinkbook so far. I enjoy your videos very much. Thanks for all you do.
Hmmmm. No success here. Like a couple of others, I'm getting the "Initiating connection with rig...
Could not initiate connection with rig on /dev/ttyACM0. Is it plugged in, with the correct CI-V address set?
Hit Enter or close this terminal window." I've tried it at A4h and 94h. Also verified that FLRIG, when fired up, talks to the rig at either address. I get that it needs to be at 94h at this time, so have tried it that way multiple times but to no avail. If anyone else had this problem and figured it out, I'm all ears. In the meantime I'll keep plugging away. One other detail.... I'm using a Pi3b+.
same problem here
Same issue here. Any resolution yet?
What happened to the TX-500? Do you plan to buy one?
Definitely planning to nothing has changed. I'm just waiting for the official release. Hopefully this month or next month.
Looking foward for your excellent videos covering more of the TX-500! Keep the great job!
I need to be fair and say this. Technologi nice but make lots of HF interfarance. Many gateway's 80m band have freq to close Js8 pks31 etc.
I don't like this if I need wait 20 min because someone receive important email. For EmComm fine but....
Sorry
HELP: Whenever I click the Execute or Execute in Terminal Window the thermal window briefly flashes and then closes. No webpage is opened.
I've never seen that error before, and not sure what you mean by thermal window Timothy. I would suggest watching the entire video step by step, then starting the process from the beginning. I'm using Raspberry Pi OS with Chromium browser. Your Raspberry Pi should also be up to date. If you're not using a Raspberry Pi or Raspberry Pi OS, I'm not sure what's going on.
by the way, dont use the "execute in terminal button". Do exactly as I do in the video👍
@@OH8STN the only thing I did different is I did not enter a password during setup script run. According to the Winlink website you are supposed to use a client app to create an account.
@@OH8STN I am running a HamPi image made by w3DJS.
Not sure what is going on with his image. Maybe reach out and ask.