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As a dane I still cannot believe we thought we ever could defeat prussia. What were we smoking then? Far more reasonable to invade sweden as in tradition.
In fact my lectorer Rasmus Glenthøj (search him up if youre Danish) denies that. The Danish politicians knew this could only be resolved by another conflict because of the London protocol. No major nation (Britain, France and Russia) would like a great power in central Europe that would disturb the balance. Therefore they knew they could drag this conflict into a major war, and it would resolve itself into a Danish favor. It was an active attempt from the Danish politicians in the Nationalliberals that ended horribly.
For starters the "Dannewerk myth" justified the policy of the NationalLiberals. Also mind that during the campaign of 1849, Denmark fought alone against Prussia and 35 other German states, but still (narrowly) came out on top. Because of basic geopolitics, Great Britain and the mighty Russian Empire were meant to intervene at the behest of Denmark, Great Britain actually coming close to such action. Denmark also had total supremacy at sea, and was in theory supposed to militarily withstand the Prussian / Austrian incursion, until a political solution could come in place, which also almost happened, until Danish premier D G Monrad took it too far and squandered any posibility of a feasible peacemaking.
@@Thomgxx100 Plus as as i recall while on the battlefield it was the polictians fault that interfere with military command that squandered any of Danes attempt of favorable a defensive war.
As soon as professional armies became fashionable did Denmark become a backwater in power politics. During the middle ages was it truely a military powerhouse, and not just during the viking age, but also during the baltic crusades with its modern army and large country when the rest of europe was divided. Denmark also had a large population - but was hit the hardest of the black death of all the scandinavian countries because of its high population density, and the result was a shift of balance of power in scandinavia away from Denmark. During the middle ages it fielded one of the largest if not the largest navy in europe. It was also early to form a national navy - earlier than England and Sweden. But it never really gained any remarkable land forces. As a strong continental power it was easy to come into contact with the European mercenary markets and hire germans to fight Denmarks wars and the strong Danish nobility refused to donate any of their farmers to the military for selfish economic reasons. So Denmark never managed to build any army traditions and a professional army until very lately - but by then it was already too late and Sweden had already stolen Denmarks crown jewel provinces such as Scania, Gotland, Halland and Bohuslän.
Albeit that Christian IX was vehemently anti-prussian (Himself being a Holstein prince, speaking Danish with a pronounced German accent during his entire life), he was in fact against the ratification of the November constitution of 1863, expressing unequivocally, that the only reason he would sign the treaty was because: "This had been the intend and wish of my predecessor!" - Bismarck on the other hand, urgently needed a justification for his policy on the Prussian Army Act of 1860 that nearly toppled King Wilhelm I from the throne. Therein lays the real reason for the Danish War of 1864. War against Denmark would justify military expenditure and the Prussian Army Act of 1860. For Bismarck everything went as planned succeeding the armistice of 1864. Bismarck was allowed to stay in power, King Wilhelm I suddenly became popular, and nobody in Prussia ever again questioned the Army Act of 1860.
That was really interesting. I'd only found out that context of the situation today. How influential that was to fueling the war has me curious, but still pretty cool
King Christian IX didn't want to sign the November constitution, but as a constitutional monarch he had to do it, because the parliament with its majority of the National Liberal party had voted for it.
Lord Palmerston: "Only three people have ever really understood the Schleswig-Holstein business - the Prince Consort/Price Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, who is dead - a German professor, who has gone mad - and I, who have forgotten all about it."
There is an interesting follow up story to tell about the the reunification of Denmark 1920. Germany had lost WWI in 1918 and a new border had to be drawn. Instead of just the taking the disputed Schleswig back from Germany the population voted on which country they wished to belong to. Northern Schleswig returned to Denmark while Central and Southern Schleswig stayed german. The border has stayed the same since 1920 and as far as I know there has been no hostilities between local german or danish populations on either side of the border since (related to national affiliation).
I remember reading about it in school as a young boy. Pretty sure the people knew a vote was going to happen (first suggested not long after 1864), so Germans and Danes alike moved accordingly so for example Flensburg would become German and Tønder would become Danish. I think otherwise there would be some areas with almost 50/50 Danes and Germans, meaning a plebiscite wouldnt really resolve the issue long term
There actually is a far right movement in Denmark which want southern Schleswig back. But the german and danish people get along very good. At least in my hometown Eckernförde.
1:40 that's a German interpretation. The Danes would say they are German *"SPEAKING"* Danes. And the anthropologists on the ground would call it multifaceted and mix synthesis of both.
Its odd how Bornholm is rarely included as Danish, despite being on the map. The final solution in 1919 eventually split it in a manner where even Hitler found it resonable (especially since the UK had attempted to give it all back to Denmark, which Denmark refused seeing as it would just cause problems down the road).
The 1920 plebiscites were, though sensible, not unquestioned. The German-speaking minority of Northern Schleswig demanded that the border was moved northward to the Tiedje Line. That really didn't change until the Copenhagen-Bonn Declarations of 1955 de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Tiedje#/media/Datei:Tiedje-Linie.svg
@@kimdrejernielsen Yes, but at that point the majority of each side was "where they felt hey belonged", and there had been an actual vote on these things. While not everyone is happy, the border ended up in the place most could agree on it belonged.
Perfect timing. I've been thinking a lot about the Danish Wars lately. Which is interesting in itself. Perhaps non-Danes like myself will soon begin to appreciate these less-well-known conflicts?
Schleswig wasn't ethnically German per se, because in the 17th Hundreds there was a language shift from Danish to German after German was chosen as the administrative language in the duchy. Consequently, during the 17th hundreds, the Danes in South Schleswig slowly over time began speaking German, despite being ethnically Danish. This situation was a major trigger, as these Germanized Danes in South Schleswig felt they belonged to the German identity. However, the Danes perceived the South Schleswig people as Danes with an identity crisis, who should either move to Germany proper or stop the German 'nonsense' and revert to speaking Danish. And in an effort to make them speak Danish again, German was banned in all public affairs which just further alienated the South Schleswig people and made them double down on the german identity It's really a complicated affair, but to say that Schleswig was ethnically German is misleading. It's more accurate to say that South Schleswig had been Germanized. (North Schleswig stayed Danish throughout)
@@MuddieRain Well, it's all public knowledge. You can begin your research on Wikipedia, but I do recommend diving into more insightful literature afterwards. You shouldn't be sour about it.
Thank you for this informative video on the Dano-Prussian War. It was a fascinating and complex conflict, and I learned a lot from your explanation. I was particularly interested in the role of the Schleswig-Holstein Question in the war. It seems like this was a long-standing dispute that was finally brought to a head by the war. I also found it interesting to learn about the involvement of other European powers in the conflict. It's amazing how one war can have such a ripple effect throughout the continent. Overall, I highly recommend this video to anyone who is interested in learning more about this important historical event.
Denmark ended up regaining northern Slesvig again after WW1 due to minimizing the German Empire and is now called South Jutland instead. The rest of Schleswig-Holstein is still part of Germany. DANMARK TIL EJDEREN!!! Btw, I'm pretty impressed of how you pronounced some of the names as danish as possible.
This videos overall really good but I can't help but notice that you gave Bornholm the island of the coast of Skåne(Southern Sweden) to Sweden, but it's Danish dough
Poor Danes. Over the centuries, they lost almost everything: Scania to the Swedes in the 17th century, Norway after the Napoleonic Wars and finally Schleswig-Holstein to Prussia.
I guess they mostly have themselves to blame... the general pattern since the 1600s was to declare war on sweden and then lose it along with lots of land. The war of 1645 was the result of many years od Denmark trying to stab Sweden in the back when it was involved in the 30 years war. In 1658 it declared war on Sweden and lost catastrophically. And neither the Scanian war or the war in 1700 were any successes either.
@@nattygsbord And in this time it was them that broke the treaty and agreement believing that the other power like Britain will help them again like the last time.
@@thanhhoangnguyen4754 I think Denmark made some stupid foreign policy decisions. Christian II pissing off Swedens population so it declared independence from Denmark was unnecessarily provocative. The Danish participation in the 30 years war was poorly handled and the country lost the war. And its attempts to backstab Sweden during the 30 years war by offering to broker peace in the war (in a biased anti-swedish manner, and even secretly offer Swedens enemies to join their side in the war after the first swedish military defeat did anger Sweden a lot). This unnecessary behaviour led to Sweden unexectadly moving its troops out from Germany when the fighting there had cooled down a bit, and then sweden quickly moved its army in Germany up to invade Denmarks heartlands and dealt the country a crushing blow - and multiple provinces had to be given up to Sweden in the peace deal. The next disaster of 1658 was even worse. It was a war Denmark started against Sweden while Sweden was busy fighting wars against Poland and Russia... and many other countries angry with Sweden also wanted to join in - Netherlands, Denmark, Brandenburg, Austria etc. A good time to start a war with Sweden one might think. There was only one problem. And that was that the Danish army was sh*t and had been badly underfunded for a long time. While the Swedish army was considered the best in Europe at that time. So when the Swedish troops left the war in Poland and marched towards Denmark instead did things become a disaster for Denmark. So one could on one hand just feel that they deserve what they did get. But on the other hand it does feel sad to see a maritime empire go down so pathetically. It was once a great power. Norwegian vikings were great seafarers and explorers who found Iceland, Greenland and America. Swedish vikings were great traders who founded Ukraine and Russia. And the Danish vikings were the most succesful warriors who managed to take control of England, Northern France and northern Germany. It was a great power during the middle ages with the most power navy in Europe and it made crusades in the Baltic. And Danish Kings ruled over the largest country in medieval Europe with their control over Denmark, Norway and Sweden/Finland. They controlled the access to the Baltic sea through the sound which was by far the most important economic zone for maritime trade for England and the Netherlands during the 1600s and 1700s - far more important than their trade in the pacific or America. And Denmark did also have much more success as a colonial power in Africa and India than Sweden. And its east India company was also more succesful. It was a maritime power with much potential but they wasted their chances. Which is a bit sad for a Scandinavian. Copenhagen is a beautiful city with lots of statues and old buildings. It is really a maritime capitol.
@@nattygsbord Very unfortunately if the Nordic countrys could the best version of a Kalmar Union then they will be a major power in the Baltic. Also if Scandinavia nation do happen where the capital of it should be. And in my opion it be any of he Nordic countries current capital. I know the Danes are not happy if it Stockholm or the Swedes if it was Copenhagen.
@@thanhhoangnguyen4754 I think the natural place would be Gothenburg as it is the middle between Norway, Denmark and Sweden and have the largest harbor in Scandinavia which is used for all three countries for shipping most of their goods. Oslo is also pretty close so it could be used just as well. In the past could one have argued Stockholm would have been the natural choice as it was in the middle of the Baltic sea surrounded by Finland, Ingria, the Baltics, Danzig, Pomerania and Sweden which all were controlled by Sweden. However today all this is forgotten, and most Swedes today do not even realize that Sweden used to be a great naval power in the past. However to tie togheter all those areas scattered around the Baltic sea and to be able to send troops to defend them it was necessary to have a strong navy. Denmark capitol would perhaps have been the more natural choice back in the middle ages when it was the largest and strongest country in Scandinavia. But those days are now gone. Personally do I not care about Stockholm. And I bet most Swedes don't as they don't live there.
Always felt bad for Christian de Meza. His withdrawel from the Danevirk line saved the Danish army and quite possibly Danish independence, yet he got villified and called a coward by the irresponsible politicians who got Denmark into this mess. Ironically he received far more respect from his Prussian counterpart Moltke.
Good to know that the Danish-German war and resulting treaty was justified and lawful, contrary to the dismay of anti-German haters. It's important to clarify history around Germany like these
The Treaty of Ribe dates from a time where the ethnicity and language of the people involved mattered nothing to the sovereigns. They were just chattel, and it was about which king owned the land. After WW1, they let a plebiscite decide the matter, and drew the line where it is now, which made a complicated "question" all too simple. 100 years later, both sides are happy.
Super wonderful historical coverage video about that complicated historical issue, which had ethnicity competition between Viking origin and Garmanic origin rather than competition between protestant and Catholic doctrinal competition. British, Russian, and austerian Empire's interventions poured 🫗 oils into that local conflict flames
Nuh, the roots of cause of the conflict go waaaaay further back throughout the centuries. Denmark always laid claims to lands down to the Elbe River and beyond, even demanding submission from the Free City of Hamburg (which usually replied that will vote on the matter, but did not actually do so 😆). The Nordic Wars (Denmark, Sweden, Norway) started the loss of Territory for Denmark. Denmark is not innocent in this, attacked Cities south of it quite often throughout the centuries, most notably in 1712-14. Anyhow, I prefer everyone being good neighbours instead, as it is the case nowadays - mostly. 😅
The solution would have been to split Schleswig in two so the northern part became Danish and the Southern part whatever it chose to be. This is what finally happened in 1920 based on a referendum, and that is the border we still have today. However, in 1864 a myriad of issues - emotional, historical, nationalistic, financial, military, political and even personal - made that impossible back in 1864.
We for sure werent. However with a lot of smaller nations within the German Confederation, Denmark was considered one of the greater ones in a local perspective.
For starters the "Dannewerk myth" justified the policy of the NationalLiberals. Also mind that during the campaign of 1849, Denmark fought alone against Prussia and 35 other German states, but still (narrowly) came out on top. Because of basic geopolitics, Great Britain and the mighty Russian Empire were meant to intervene at the behest of Denmark, Great Britain actually coming close to such action. Denmark also had total supremacy at sea, and was in theory supposed to militarily withstand the Prussian / Austrian incursion, until a political solution could come in place, which also almost happened, until Danish premier D G Monrad took it too far and squandered any posibility of a feasible peacemaking.
Denmark is one of the largest countries on the planet. In terms of geographic size, it's bigger than Germany, Turkey, and France - combined. And if russia is super power, then Denmark is a super power as well. With its enormous soft power through Lego, Aqua and beer and the viking influence it left on England, France and Germany. It is a country that invented a national flag before anyone else did. It is also controlling the entrance to the strategically and economically important Baltic sea. The country is rich and have the happiest people on the planet.
Denmark was in fact a great power until the reign of Christian the fourth by then losing its hegemony to Sweden. Still during the Napoleonic Wars Denmark had the 3rd largest fleet in the world, a naval force to be reckoned with.@@TheLoyalOfficer
Wasn’t it really about Germany’s gateway to the Baltic, about having the lands in which to dig the canal as a way for the German navy and cargo ships other than around Denmark through the Kattegat?
Chinese history: Emperor Xi dies; His two twin sons, Prince Qi and Prince Zi, fight for the throne. 100 million dead, 250 million displaced, 1 million canibalized during the siege of Zhang city. European history: Emperor Haineschaiss and King Funflaftenn fight for the Free City and Grand-Duchy of Poopenennfarten (10 km^2 of area, 1000 inhabitants). This dispute is now known as the most complex diplomatic and military conflict ever, historians have died and fallen into insanity trying to figure out how it worked. 10 casualties (including 5 horses)
as a Dane we have not in our deepest of conscience not forgot nor really forgiven even while we are Friends whit the Germans today we would be very much oblige if Germany would nearly double Denmarks size
I would have liked some information on the importance of the area. Geo-strategy, farmland? Or was it mostly German lebensraum? My family originates from Danish northern Anglia and I think the division should have been south of Slesvig along historic border of the river Eideren, north of Kiel. I am not at all in favor of any royalty or dutches, just language and culture, so there's that.
This was a war fought mostly because radical liberal nationalists wanted a German ethnostate in Schleswig. They believed that they couldn't have a functioning society if ethnic Danes were allowed to live in the state and that the creation of an ethnostate would cause the economy and prosperity to skyrocket and crime to plummet. They also wanted all ethnic Germans to be unified under one powerful state. It was very widely and correctly predicted that this fanatical progressive ideology would evolve to have many of the characteristics that we now associate with nazism, socialism or communism and these predictions began immediately during the French revolution and continued during the American Civil War both of which saw victories of radical liberal nationalist movements over traditional, aristocratic ones. I've recently become fascinated by this subject because just as fascism, communism, and monarchism have all failed and we're all taught how silly and racist they were, we are now witnessing the twilight of our own equally silly and racist ideology and continue, as a society, to mostly live in denial of our own corruption and inferiority as we witness its final days.
In 1864 danes were in majority in slesvig in 1920 they only were a third of the population and only in the north.....reason german ethnic cleansing and dilution by mowing gernman from the south......this should not be forgotten
@@3chmidt I am a Danish Sydslesviger and one thing we have in common with the German majority population in Southern Slesvig is the fact that we would be better off with Denmark in every respect, so keep my fingers crossed for a reunification asap 🤞
This video is missing a crucial part of the final outcome. The border today is NOT where its drawn in the final part of the video. Why did you leave out what happened after WW1? Or at least explain that the border show finally in the video is not the same as today
@@nicolaijeppesen1528 men folkets mening af 1920 er ikke folkets mening i 2024. Også her i Sydslesvig siger mange tyskere at de hellere vil være en del af Danmark igen
my ancestors fled there to dodge the draft (JoHan Broecker) {ellis island americanized it to John Brocker,my great grandfather I have Blond hair & Blue eyes,und ich spreche Deutsch
Well the Great Powers should have supporterd Denmark and stopped Prussia then. Such action might have saved Europe from the Great War. One of the big iffs of history. Within 2 years Prussia humiliated Austria and took the duchy awarded to it after defeat of Denmark. Prussia also took over Hanover, Hesse und bei de Rhine and other German independent states. Bavaria, Saxony etc became lesser states. Axis Powers And Triple Alliance all duly came about hence WW1.
Also we humans are unraveling like all of creation, not as some would have you believe, hurrying towards some modern day eutopia where qll your dreams will finally come true....and "blah, blah, blah, blah ,blah, blah blah!"... The Lord God Almighty Spoke The End for om the beginning into existence. He holds up the universe in The Palm of His Powerful Right Hand. His are The Everlasting Arms. In Him we live and move and have our very being. All The Fullness of The God Head are revealed and rest in Him. Amen.
Kind of like Ukraine Russia Conflict about donbass region + Krim. In the end Russian Troops win🥇. NATO is getting unfortunately punished in the face for lack of leadership, Mediawar + Zelenskis Slush fund won’t change gound truths about the donbass regions efforts to rejoin Russia 🇷🇺. It won’t change the fact the American killed peaceful protestors in Maidan.
Nice video and topic, but using the german tricolore for that time period is pretty much confusing and outright misleading. This is neither the modern Federal Republic, nor the Weimar republic. The german confderation also had a flag, ould have been more appropriate to use it instead. Like, using the modern PRC flag for the ming dynasty would also be plainly wrong. Otherwise, splendid work. Edit: I see the tricolore is dated to 1848, so my argument here is wrong mostly. I was in the assumption, the tricolore was nothing official until the weimar republic (so not the Northern German conferdation for example). I apologize and hope you guys can still see where I was coming from.
1848 was a case of "the Deutscher Bund" is under attack and thus it would send Bundestruppen (aka "federal troops) which of course were Prussians. But those Prussians werent there as "Prussians" but as federals. So, black-red-gold is appropiate.
@@madcat4633I just dug in a bit just about the history of the tricolore and yes you are right. It is actually dated to 1848. I really hate to admit it, but I was wrong here mostly. But I hope, from my initial comment that guys can see where I was coming from, so to say. I will put an edit in it. Thank you for pointing that out.
@@DocuAddict666 To add more info: it was also the time of the 48 national assembly. An attempt of creating a German nation. The assembly wanted to continue the war (fighting for a unified nation), but like I said the troops belonged to the king of Prussia. When the British threatend Prussia with war, the king called the army back and made peace. Which was one of the reasons the German unification in 48/49 failed: the assembly was powerless and had no executive. It was just a parliament with noone to command.
Whoooh! "The German nation is finally rising"?! That's what you hear from extreme-right parties, basically Neo-Nazis in Germany today, whenever talking about the the empire from 1871. I am sure you don't mean it that way but this is a very bad thumbnail. Besides, even without the Nazi connotation it wouzld literally say that this empire is only "rising" through military expansionist wars against its neighbours, which I find highly questionable.
Denmark knew that Germany wanted to take the Iron Mines in Norway and that the didn’t have a chance against the German army, so the capitulated to don’t waste life’s in an unwinnable war.
We kicked swedens ass just as much bro. Battle of oland 42 dutch danish vs 57 swedish ships. We only lost 100 men. Sweden lost 1400. 5 ships sunk, 6 captured.
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As a dane I still cannot believe we thought we ever could defeat prussia. What were we smoking then? Far more reasonable to invade sweden as in tradition.
In fact my lectorer Rasmus Glenthøj (search him up if youre Danish) denies that. The Danish politicians knew this could only be resolved by another conflict because of the London protocol.
No major nation (Britain, France and Russia) would like a great power in central Europe that would disturb the balance. Therefore they knew they could drag this conflict into a major war, and it would resolve itself into a Danish favor.
It was an active attempt from the Danish politicians in the Nationalliberals that ended horribly.
For starters the "Dannewerk myth" justified the policy of the NationalLiberals. Also mind that during the campaign of 1849, Denmark fought alone against Prussia and 35 other German states, but still (narrowly) came out on top. Because of basic geopolitics, Great Britain and the mighty Russian Empire were meant to intervene at the behest of Denmark, Great Britain actually coming close to such action. Denmark also had total supremacy at sea, and was in theory supposed to militarily withstand the Prussian / Austrian incursion, until a political solution could come in place, which also almost happened, until Danish premier D G Monrad took it too far and squandered any posibility of a feasible peacemaking.
@@Thomgxx100 Plus as as i recall while on the battlefield it was the polictians fault that interfere with military command that squandered any of Danes attempt of favorable a defensive war.
As soon as professional armies became fashionable did Denmark become a backwater in power politics. During the middle ages was it truely a military powerhouse, and not just during the viking age, but also during the baltic crusades with its modern army and large country when the rest of europe was divided. Denmark also had a large population - but was hit the hardest of the black death of all the scandinavian countries because of its high population density, and the result was a shift of balance of power in scandinavia away from Denmark. During the middle ages it fielded one of the largest if not the largest navy in europe. It was also early to form a national navy - earlier than England and Sweden.
But it never really gained any remarkable land forces. As a strong continental power it was easy to come into contact with the European mercenary markets and hire germans to fight Denmarks wars and the strong Danish nobility refused to donate any of their farmers to the military for selfish economic reasons. So Denmark never managed to build any army traditions and a professional army until very lately - but by then it was already too late and Sweden had already stolen Denmarks crown jewel provinces such as Scania, Gotland, Halland and Bohuslän.
We won against them multiple times though in this conflict, just not at the very end when they had Austria's support
I do prefer the term "Schleswig Wars". I've never heard anyone call it the Dano-Prussian Wars lol
Yeah same. It's also the name it goes by if you google it/look at wikipedia and history books.
It's probably about making it obvious to the viewer who was involved.
Or "The Danish War of 1848" and "The Danish War of 1864"
You're correct, I read and thought "what" the title is complete b****cks
In Germany it’s called Deutsch-Dänischer Krieg (German-Danish war) because the German Federation fought the war
Albeit that Christian IX was vehemently anti-prussian (Himself being a Holstein prince, speaking Danish with a pronounced German accent during his entire life), he was in fact against the ratification of the November constitution of 1863, expressing unequivocally, that the only reason he would sign the treaty was because: "This had been the intend and wish of my predecessor!" - Bismarck on the other hand, urgently needed a justification for his policy on the Prussian Army Act of 1860 that nearly toppled King Wilhelm I from the throne. Therein lays the real reason for the Danish War of 1864. War against Denmark would justify military expenditure and the Prussian Army Act of 1860. For Bismarck everything went as planned succeeding the armistice of 1864. Bismarck was allowed to stay in power, King Wilhelm I suddenly became popular, and nobody in Prussia ever again questioned the Army Act of 1860.
That was really interesting. I'd only found out that context of the situation today. How influential that was to fueling the war has me curious, but still pretty cool
King Christian IX didn't want to sign the November constitution, but as a constitutional monarch he had to do it, because the parliament with its majority of the National Liberal party had voted for it.
Lord Palmerston: "Only three people have ever really understood the Schleswig-Holstein business - the Prince Consort/Price Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, who is dead - a German professor, who has gone mad - and I, who have forgotten all about it."
This is from Flashman
There is an interesting follow up story to tell about the the reunification of Denmark 1920. Germany had lost WWI in 1918 and a new border had to be drawn. Instead of just the taking the disputed Schleswig back from Germany the population voted on which country they wished to belong to. Northern Schleswig returned to Denmark while Central and Southern Schleswig stayed german. The border has stayed the same since 1920 and as far as I know there has been no hostilities between local german or danish populations on either side of the border since (related to national affiliation).
Fun fact: As of today, the Danish-German border is still the only one made/decided by an election.
@@Rollo37 The Austrian-Slovenian border can be considered too, same with Austrian-Hungarian
I remember reading about it in school as a young boy. Pretty sure the people knew a vote was going to happen (first suggested not long after 1864), so Germans and Danes alike moved accordingly so for example Flensburg would become German and Tønder would become Danish. I think otherwise there would be some areas with almost 50/50 Danes and Germans, meaning a plebiscite wouldnt really resolve the issue long term
There actually is a far right movement in Denmark which want southern Schleswig back. But the german and danish people get along very good. At least in my hometown Eckernförde.
There's always some nutters who enjoy having a controversial point of view.
1:40 that's a German interpretation.
The Danes would say they are German *"SPEAKING"* Danes.
And the anthropologists on the ground would call it multifaceted and mix synthesis of both.
Its odd how Bornholm is rarely included as Danish, despite being on the map.
The final solution in 1919 eventually split it in a manner where even Hitler found it resonable (especially since the UK had attempted to give it all back to Denmark, which Denmark refused seeing as it would just cause problems down the road).
The 1920 plebiscites were, though sensible, not unquestioned. The German-speaking minority of Northern Schleswig demanded that the border was moved northward to the Tiedje Line. That really didn't change until the Copenhagen-Bonn Declarations of 1955
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Tiedje#/media/Datei:Tiedje-Linie.svg
@@kimdrejernielsen Yes, but at that point the majority of each side was "where they felt hey belonged", and there had been an actual vote on these things. While not everyone is happy, the border ended up in the place most could agree on it belonged.
2:31 You forgot the island of Bornholm located under sweden which is Danish territory and always has been.
Not always, It was under Sweden during their peak
They Had it for 2 years 💀And Denmark had Sweden for over +26 Years lmfao@@SimonDman
@@TheDaneOfficial yes, but not "ALWAYS"
Also denmark stinks -Swede
thats because in the context of the world nobody cares about that island
Perfect timing. I've been thinking a lot about the Danish Wars lately. Which is interesting in itself. Perhaps non-Danes like myself will soon begin to appreciate these less-well-known conflicts?
Schleswig wasn't ethnically German per se, because in the 17th Hundreds there was a language shift from Danish to German after German was chosen as the administrative language in the duchy. Consequently, during the 17th hundreds, the Danes in South Schleswig slowly over time began speaking German, despite being ethnically Danish.
This situation was a major trigger, as these Germanized Danes in South Schleswig felt they belonged to the German identity. However, the Danes perceived the South Schleswig people as Danes with an identity crisis, who should either move to Germany proper or stop the German 'nonsense' and revert to speaking Danish. And in an effort to make them speak Danish again, German was banned in all public affairs which just further alienated the South Schleswig people and made them double down on the german identity
It's really a complicated affair, but to say that Schleswig was ethnically German is misleading. It's more accurate to say that South Schleswig had been Germanized. (North Schleswig stayed Danish throughout)
Sure Dane
@@MuddieRain Well, it's all public knowledge. You can begin your research on Wikipedia, but I do recommend diving into more insightful literature afterwards.
You shouldn't be sour about it.
Average dane gaslighting himself that the people of schleswig and holstein are just dumb danes who think they are german.
danes and germans are ethnically the same,
@@Themrine2013 Not really. Danes and Germans are two seperate ethnicities, but they do come from the same language group - the Germanic Language Group
I love these videos so much, they are just the perfect lenght for when I'm eating at lunch break or when having dinner at home.
Thank you for this informative video on the Dano-Prussian War. It was a fascinating and complex conflict, and I learned a lot from your explanation. I was particularly interested in the role of the Schleswig-Holstein Question in the war. It seems like this was a long-standing dispute that was finally brought to a head by the war. I also found it interesting to learn about the involvement of other European powers in the conflict. It's amazing how one war can have such a ripple effect throughout the continent. Overall, I highly recommend this video to anyone who is interested in learning more about this important historical event.
One more fun fact, the Hochstein, Gottorp, Romanoff Dynasty is also a branch of the house of Oldenburg after the main Romanov became extinct
Denmark ended up regaining northern Slesvig again after WW1 due to minimizing the German Empire and is now called South Jutland instead. The rest of Schleswig-Holstein is still part of Germany.
DANMARK TIL EJDEREN!!!
Btw, I'm pretty impressed of how you pronounced some of the names as danish as possible.
I fully agree DANMARK TIL EJDEREN
Så er der langt til Fleggaard
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Småll peepee syndrome, lol
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This videos overall really good but I can't help but notice that you gave Bornholm the island of the coast of Skåne(Southern Sweden) to Sweden, but it's Danish dough
I quite admin in my fiction, Pruss and such overtook Denmark and when German Conference came, it became Denmark-Germany 😊
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@@vinlateosub hi nice to meet you
There is a great Danish mini series on this called 1864. It is the biggest tv series production out of Denmark ever.
Poor Danes. Over the centuries, they lost almost everything: Scania to the Swedes in the 17th century, Norway after the Napoleonic Wars and finally Schleswig-Holstein to Prussia.
I guess they mostly have themselves to blame... the general pattern since the 1600s was to declare war on sweden and then lose it along with lots of land. The war of 1645 was the result of many years od Denmark trying to stab Sweden in the back when it was involved in the 30 years war. In 1658 it declared war on Sweden and lost catastrophically. And neither the Scanian war or the war in 1700 were any successes either.
@@nattygsbord And in this time it was them that broke the treaty and agreement believing that the other power like Britain will help them again like the last time.
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I think Denmark made some stupid foreign policy decisions. Christian II pissing off Swedens population so it declared independence from Denmark was unnecessarily provocative. The Danish participation in the 30 years war was poorly handled and the country lost the war. And its attempts to backstab Sweden during the 30 years war by offering to broker peace in the war (in a biased anti-swedish manner, and even secretly offer Swedens enemies to join their side in the war after the first swedish military defeat did anger Sweden a lot). This unnecessary behaviour led to Sweden unexectadly moving its troops out from Germany when the fighting there had cooled down a bit, and then sweden quickly moved its army in Germany up to invade Denmarks heartlands and dealt the country a crushing blow - and multiple provinces had to be given up to Sweden in the peace deal.
The next disaster of 1658 was even worse. It was a war Denmark started against Sweden while Sweden was busy fighting wars against Poland and Russia... and many other countries angry with Sweden also wanted to join in - Netherlands, Denmark, Brandenburg, Austria etc.
A good time to start a war with Sweden one might think. There was only one problem. And that was that the Danish army was sh*t and had been badly underfunded for a long time. While the Swedish army was considered the best in Europe at that time. So when the Swedish troops left the war in Poland and marched towards Denmark instead did things become a disaster for Denmark.
So one could on one hand just feel that they deserve what they did get.
But on the other hand it does feel sad to see a maritime empire go down so pathetically. It was once a great power. Norwegian vikings were great seafarers and explorers who found Iceland, Greenland and America. Swedish vikings were great traders who founded Ukraine and Russia. And the Danish vikings were the most succesful warriors who managed to take control of England, Northern France and northern Germany.
It was a great power during the middle ages with the most power navy in Europe and it made crusades in the Baltic. And Danish Kings ruled over the largest country in medieval Europe with their control over Denmark, Norway and Sweden/Finland. They controlled the access to the Baltic sea through the sound which was by far the most important economic zone for maritime trade for England and the Netherlands during the 1600s and 1700s - far more important than their trade in the pacific or America.
And Denmark did also have much more success as a colonial power in Africa and India than Sweden. And its east India company was also more succesful. It was a maritime power with much potential but they wasted their chances.
Which is a bit sad for a Scandinavian. Copenhagen is a beautiful city with lots of statues and old buildings. It is really a maritime capitol.
@@nattygsbord Very unfortunately if the Nordic countrys could the best version of a Kalmar Union then they will be a major power in the Baltic.
Also if Scandinavia nation do happen where the capital of it should be. And in my opion it be any of he Nordic countries current capital. I know the Danes are not happy if it Stockholm or the Swedes if it was Copenhagen.
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I think the natural place would be Gothenburg as it is the middle between Norway, Denmark and Sweden and have the largest harbor in Scandinavia which is used for all three countries for shipping most of their goods. Oslo is also pretty close so it could be used just as well.
In the past could one have argued Stockholm would have been the natural choice as it was in the middle of the Baltic sea surrounded by Finland, Ingria, the Baltics, Danzig, Pomerania and Sweden which all were controlled by Sweden.
However today all this is forgotten, and most Swedes today do not even realize that Sweden used to be a great naval power in the past. However to tie togheter all those areas scattered around the Baltic sea and to be able to send troops to defend them it was necessary to have a strong navy.
Denmark capitol would perhaps have been the more natural choice back in the middle ages when it was the largest and strongest country in Scandinavia.
But those days are now gone.
Personally do I not care about Stockholm. And I bet most Swedes don't as they don't live there.
It's dresen needle gun and it's op artillery, made the prussins come on top
Always felt bad for Christian de Meza. His withdrawel from the Danevirk line saved the Danish army and quite possibly Danish independence, yet he got villified and called a coward by the irresponsible politicians who got Denmark into this mess. Ironically he received far more respect from his Prussian counterpart Moltke.
Good to know that the Danish-German war and resulting treaty was justified and lawful, contrary to the dismay of anti-German haters. It's important to clarify history around Germany like these
Never heard about this, very interesting
Do the italian unification next and their wars of independence
Love your channel
The Germans (loosely defined) have always been a blessing for cartophiles.
Great video, but just a minor issue: Bornholm should be highlighted in red like the rest of the Kingdom.
The Treaty of Ribe dates from a time where the ethnicity and language of the people involved mattered nothing to the sovereigns. They were just chattel, and it was about which king owned the land. After WW1, they let a plebiscite decide the matter, and drew the line where it is now, which made a complicated "question" all too simple. 100 years later, both sides are happy.
Great little documentary
Super wonderful historical coverage video about that complicated historical issue, which had ethnicity competition between Viking origin and Garmanic origin rather than competition between protestant and Catholic doctrinal competition. British, Russian, and austerian Empire's interventions poured 🫗 oils into that local conflict flames
"Up ewig ungedeelt" / "Auf ewig ungeteilt" / "For ever undivided", ein Holsteiner
I’ve never heard this war called this but ok…..
still really good video even with the weird name
Is this about Paul Dano vs Prussia?
Make a new video where “Bornholm” is also Danish in your videoes!
bornholm was under sweden at that time
Nuh, the roots of cause of the conflict go waaaaay further back throughout the centuries.
Denmark always laid claims to lands down to the Elbe River and beyond, even demanding submission from the Free City of Hamburg (which usually replied that will vote on the matter, but did not actually do so 😆). The Nordic Wars (Denmark, Sweden, Norway) started the loss of Territory for Denmark. Denmark is not innocent in this, attacked Cities south of it quite often throughout the centuries, most notably in 1712-14.
Anyhow, I prefer everyone being good neighbours instead, as it is the case nowadays - mostly. 😅
Denmark once dominated Scandinavia and such. No more...
Very good
Thank you for talking about the history of my country.
One note:
I would have been so happy if you pronounciate Schleswig correctly 😅
Why is Bornholm alwyas forgotten :,(
The solution would have been to split Schleswig in two so the northern part became Danish and the Southern part whatever it chose to be. This is what finally happened in 1920 based on a referendum, and that is the border we still have today. However, in 1864 a myriad of issues - emotional, historical, nationalistic, financial, military, political and even personal - made that impossible back in 1864.
In the end, Denmark got Slesvig again.
unfortunately just the northern part
The allies wanted to Give Denmark more, but Denmark was against it, fearing that the Schleswig Conflict could reappear.
Denmark was not a great power, though.
We for sure werent. However with a lot of smaller nations within the German Confederation, Denmark was considered one of the greater ones in a local perspective.
For starters the "Dannewerk myth" justified the policy of the NationalLiberals. Also mind that during the campaign of 1849, Denmark fought alone against Prussia and 35 other German states, but still (narrowly) came out on top. Because of basic geopolitics, Great Britain and the mighty Russian Empire were meant to intervene at the behest of Denmark, Great Britain actually coming close to such action. Denmark also had total supremacy at sea, and was in theory supposed to militarily withstand the Prussian / Austrian incursion, until a political solution could come in place, which also almost happened, until Danish premier D G Monrad took it too far and squandered any posibility of a feasible peacemaking.
Denmark is one of the largest countries on the planet. In terms of geographic size, it's bigger than Germany, Turkey, and France - combined. And if russia is super power, then Denmark is a super power as well. With its enormous soft power through Lego, Aqua and beer and the viking influence it left on England, France and Germany. It is a country that invented a national flag before anyone else did. It is also controlling the entrance to the strategically and economically important Baltic sea. The country is rich and have the happiest people on the planet.
@@nattygsbord This is some kind of joke, right? Greenland??? LOL. Denmark is NOT a great power and never was.
Denmark was in fact a great power until the reign of Christian the fourth by then losing its hegemony to Sweden. Still during the Napoleonic Wars Denmark had the 3rd largest fleet in the world, a naval force to be reckoned with.@@TheLoyalOfficer
Good vid
Every nation ends up commiting to at least one stupid, greedy war in its' history (sometimes more than one). This was Denmark's turn.
Wasn’t it really about Germany’s gateway to the Baltic, about having the lands in which to dig the canal as a way for the German navy and cargo ships other than around Denmark through the Kattegat?
Bornholm was danish smh
You forgot to include the island of Bornholm within the danish realm
Chinese history: Emperor Xi dies; His two twin sons, Prince Qi and Prince Zi, fight for the throne. 100 million dead, 250 million displaced, 1 million canibalized during the siege of Zhang city.
European history: Emperor Haineschaiss and King Funflaftenn fight for the Free City and Grand-Duchy of Poopenennfarten (10 km^2 of area, 1000 inhabitants). This dispute is now known as the most complex diplomatic and military conflict ever, historians have died and fallen into insanity trying to figure out how it worked. 10 casualties (including 5 horses)
as a Dane we have not in our deepest of conscience not forgot nor really forgiven even while we are Friends whit the Germans today we would be very much oblige if Germany would nearly double Denmarks size
I would have liked some information on the importance of the area. Geo-strategy, farmland? Or was it mostly German lebensraum? My family originates from Danish northern Anglia and I think the division should have been south of Slesvig along historic border of the river Eideren, north of Kiel. I am not at all in favor of any royalty or dutches, just language and culture, so there's that.
interesting video
Danmark til Ejderen!🇩🇰
Great video!
Oh yes. If red arrows are coming out of somewhere, they must be bad guys.
This was a war fought mostly because radical liberal nationalists wanted a German ethnostate in Schleswig. They believed that they couldn't have a functioning society if ethnic Danes were allowed to live in the state and that the creation of an ethnostate would cause the economy and prosperity to skyrocket and crime to plummet. They also wanted all ethnic Germans to be unified under one powerful state. It was very widely and correctly predicted that this fanatical progressive ideology would evolve to have many of the characteristics that we now associate with nazism, socialism or communism and these predictions began immediately during the French revolution and continued during the American Civil War both of which saw victories of radical liberal nationalist movements over traditional, aristocratic ones.
I've recently become fascinated by this subject because just as fascism, communism, and monarchism have all failed and we're all taught how silly and racist they were, we are now witnessing the twilight of our own equally silly and racist ideology and continue, as a society, to mostly live in denial of our own corruption and inferiority as we witness its final days.
What a retarded comment lmao, literal shitlib
Good ol viking days long over. By odin!! It’s all technology from here
Denmark will rise again!
I’m pretty sure Prussia and Austria vs 1 nation is likely going to be a Austro Prussian victory
Lord Pam
Sequel: Austrian Prussian war
Actually it was Denmark bullying Prussia
Interesting but where are the dates?
Du glemmer Bornholm hører også med .Læs dit landkort.
In 1864 danes were in majority in slesvig in 1920 they only were a third of the population and only in the north.....reason german ethnic cleansing and dilution by mowing gernman from the south......this should not be forgotten
I don’t blame the Danes for fighting over Shleischwig, it’s like half their country!
that's why we also should have the southern Slesvig (Sydslesvig) back
@@danishcommander4dk They're fine without, and would also be fine without northern Schleswig
@@3chmidt I am a Danish Sydslesviger and one thing we have in common with the German majority population in Southern Slesvig is the fact that we would be better off with Denmark in every respect, so keep my fingers crossed for a reunification asap 🤞
"Great powers"
Denmark
Germany was the biggest reason why Denmark was demoted from a big power in Northern Europe to a no longer such an important country
Why are you not using the prussian flag to demonstrate German side. This flag is new
No, it was the flag of the German Confederation who was the "official" war party.
This video is missing a crucial part of the final outcome. The border today is NOT where its drawn in the final part of the video. Why did you leave out what happened after WW1? Or at least explain that the border show finally in the video is not the same as today
Long forgotten? Right.
Altleast we got half of schleswig back after ww1 💁♂️😅
men der mangler stadig en del...
Danmark var ret demokratiske. Vi lod dem stemme om, hvor de ville høre til, selvom vi blev tilbudt det hele. Det er ret voksent gjort synes jeg.
@@nicolaijeppesen1528 men folkets mening af 1920 er ikke folkets mening i 2024. Også her i Sydslesvig siger mange tyskere at de hellere vil være en del af Danmark igen
And about 11 minutes later, geographically speaking, that German Empire formed so gloriously was gone. But the Kingdom of Denmark was still there.
my ancestors fled there to dodge the draft (JoHan Broecker) {ellis island americanized it to John Brocker,my great grandfather I have Blond hair & Blue eyes,und ich spreche Deutsch
speed 1.25
that is not the flag of germany at the time.
good video but the last minute or so was dreadful 😂
Well the Great Powers should have supporterd Denmark and stopped Prussia then. Such action might have saved Europe from the Great War. One of the big iffs of history. Within 2 years Prussia humiliated Austria and took the duchy awarded to it after defeat of Denmark. Prussia also took over Hanover, Hesse und bei de Rhine and other German independent states. Bavaria, Saxony etc became lesser states. Axis Powers And Triple Alliance all duly came about hence WW1.
Nice video
9:42 / 11:18
The southern part of SH should be ceded to Germany, and the northern half should be given to Sweden, as a apology dowry
It's not Schlisweg, it's Schleswig
or Slesvig
*the holsteen schwantig wars
Blitz! Krieg!
Forget komplet the Battel of idsted 1852......
1850.
why is he pronouncing schleswig like a total noob?
Also we humans are unraveling like all of creation, not as some would have you believe, hurrying towards some modern day eutopia where qll your dreams will finally come true....and "blah, blah, blah, blah ,blah, blah blah!"... The Lord God Almighty Spoke The End for om the beginning into existence. He holds up the universe in The Palm of His Powerful Right Hand. His are The Everlasting Arms. In Him we live and move and have our very being. All The Fullness of The God Head are revealed and rest in Him. Amen.
Kind of like Ukraine Russia Conflict about donbass region + Krim. In the end Russian Troops win🥇.
NATO is getting unfortunately punished in the face for lack of leadership, Mediawar + Zelenskis Slush fund won’t change gound truths about the donbass regions efforts to rejoin Russia 🇷🇺. It won’t change the fact the American killed peaceful protestors in Maidan.
Du glemmer da vist Bornholm. Og nej der var flere danske end der var tyske i Sydslesvig /Nordslesvig.Læs din historie.......
Narrate more quickly!!
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Nice video and topic, but using the german tricolore for that time period is pretty much confusing and outright misleading. This is neither the modern Federal Republic, nor the Weimar republic. The german confderation also had a flag, ould have been more appropriate to use it instead.
Like, using the modern PRC flag for the ming dynasty would also be plainly wrong. Otherwise, splendid work.
Edit: I see the tricolore is dated to 1848, so my argument here is wrong mostly. I was in the assumption, the tricolore was nothing official until the weimar republic (so not the Northern German conferdation for example). I apologize and hope you guys can still see where I was coming from.
1848 was a case of "the Deutscher Bund" is under attack and thus it would send Bundestruppen (aka "federal troops) which of course were Prussians. But those Prussians werent there as "Prussians" but as federals. So, black-red-gold is appropiate.
@@madcat4633I just dug in a bit just about the history of the tricolore and yes you are right. It is actually dated to 1848. I really hate to admit it, but I was wrong here mostly. But I hope, from my initial comment that guys can see where I was coming from, so to say. I will put an edit in it. Thank you for pointing that out.
@@DocuAddict666 To add more info: it was also the time of the 48 national assembly. An attempt of creating a German nation. The assembly wanted to continue the war (fighting for a unified nation), but like I said the troops belonged to the king of Prussia. When the British threatend Prussia with war, the king called the army back and made peace. Which was one of the reasons the German unification in 48/49 failed: the assembly was powerless and had no executive. It was just a parliament with noone to command.
Whoooh! "The German nation is finally rising"?! That's what you hear from extreme-right parties, basically Neo-Nazis in Germany today, whenever talking about the the empire from 1871. I am sure you don't mean it that way but this is a very bad thumbnail. Besides, even without the Nazi connotation it wouzld literally say that this empire is only "rising" through military expansionist wars against its neighbours, which I find highly questionable.
You really calling Prussians nazis?
@@noahtylerpritchett2682 You didn't read properly. I was talking about German Nazis today who refer to the empire from 1871.
@@arcanios806 got it
If nazis say sky is blue it doesn't mean we have to say sky is red
@@arcanios806Ok lefty
I can't. I tried, but I just can't do it. Your pronounciation of Schleswig is killing my mood. Maybe next time.
I'm surprised that Denmark was able to fend off the larger Prussians for so long.
:(
During Ww2, Germany used only 4 hours to conquer Denmark 😅
There is a great movie about the Danish troops who lost contact with command and were fighting after the surrender for a short time.
Why are you laughing? What is so funny?
And what has it to do with the content of this video?
Sorry, it was due to speed restrictions on the main roads.
Denmark knew that Germany wanted to take the Iron Mines in Norway and that the didn’t have a chance against the German army, so the capitulated to don’t waste life’s in an unwinnable war.
Denmark was under a lot of Prussia during that time.
Kinda funny in the end Schleswig-Holstein didnt get what they wanted. To be united always. Pure Purssian and Austrian land grap attempt
no hate or anything but you pronounce schleswig rather bad
Should pronounce it the proper American way
We Danes have a proud tradition of getting our asses handed to us by Germans and Swedes for 400 years.
We kicked swedens ass just as much bro. Battle of oland 42 dutch danish vs 57 swedish ships. We only lost 100 men. Sweden lost 1400. 5 ships sunk, 6 captured.
Danish aggression
I think you mean German aggression against Denmark