One of my favorite episodes! Dale “the Whale” Biederbeck is such a great villain-repugnant, able to do whatever he wants because of his money and connections (having him literally calling the shots of a Congressman is a great way to introduce him), and smart enough to be a genuinely dangerous foe. Fun Fact: “Monk” was originally devised as a take on the Sherlock Holmes stories, with Monk as Sherlock (antisocial genius), Sharona as Watson (both medical professionals), and Stottlemeyer and Disher a decomposition of Inspector Lestrade (LE-land, RAND-y). Dale is a version of Charles Augustus Milverton: both are super-wealthy blackmailers who have legions of minions, and both are personally-despised foes of the main detective. Love this show! :D
Christian, Awesome research, I never knew any of this great information. I read all the S.H. books when I was but a lass, many, many years ago (which just means I've forgotten most of the plots and characters)! Thanks again for your time and effort!
In regards to Stottlemeyer and Randy being Lestrade - their names originally actually fit far better than what you have In the Pilot, Randy is credited as "Randy Deacon", not Disher. So you'd have: LEland STottlemeyer RAndy DEacon LESTRADE
I've just realized: When they mention the killer at 1:55, the cut immediately shows us the killer. We are just distracted by the presence of Dale the Whale.
@@rambo8863 He punched the buttons on the phone by using the handkerchief. The antenna is a minor thing, but still a crime scene mistake. More tellingly, he didn't 'hang up' the phone before recompressing the antenna.
After finishing the series, seeing this video makes me realize how young they looked! One of the best series ever, great finale, wish it lasted forever.
Yeah. But with all these reboots and revivals that we’ve been getting from other shows, I do hope that it could come back 🤞🙏 or at least a movie like Psych.
I appreciate the shade/sass that Monk is giving when he adds “Of course the hard part is keeping it off.” Granted, there’s a lot of that in this episode.😉
@@davidalexander3320 oh I don't doubt that. I would prefer some consistency. But without it, we wouldn't get Tim Curry. And I wouldn't trade that for anything
I'm so happy this is on peacock, I missed this show. And this episode I'll never forget, and Biderbeck being an important character later in the series was good. Just wish they kept the same actor for all appearances
The director Adam Arkin played him originally because it was easy/cheap to just throw someone in a fat suit. However, Adam had left the series by the second appearance. As the show had become more popular they had money to hire an acclaimed actor such as Tim Curry. Unfortunately that back fired when Tim was not available to play him in the final appearance, as often happens when a guest star is bigger than the show & has better things to do than wait by the phone for a bit part.
@@harringt100 There were 2 others, one a two part. Mr. Monk is on the run, and the one where a prisoner on death row was poisoned and I cannot remember the name of it.
Does anyone know why Dale gets recast in every appearance he has in the series. FIrst your man here, then Tim Curry and finally... I can't remember. They're all good actors, performing the role very well. Though, they do play the character differently from each other notably enough that... I notice it.
@@davidalexander3320 The most realistic but boring explanation. Probably right though.. ... but maybe not. Here's what happened. Tim Curry was jealous of your man from this video. So he conducted a plan where he used his deep and old connections to give the man a role that he would conflict with this one in the next appearance. Opening it up for Curry... who couldn't have forseen later on that EA would pay him stacks of fat cash to play the Russian Premier in Red Alert 3. Which was a scheme created by the final Dale actor, who was friends with the big wigs at EA. So they mostly wasted Curry's time... ... who somehow still made the role his with lines such as "I'm going to the one place where Captilism hasn't reached... SPACE!" And that's how it went down.
Probably, just to surprise the audience. If they were to show this actor's name in the beginning credits then, most likely, the viewers would know that they were about to see Dale again. For the third appearance, I'd say it'd make sense given how much of a bind Monk was in. Who better and more capable of setting Monk up?
I think my favorite episode was the one where with the astronaut. **spoilers** When they accused the guy doing the bone replacement research and he just started laughing and handed them a folder. Then he said that not only did he not have a reason to kill the guy, the guy's death literally ruined his life. Their number 1 suspect not only didn't have a motive but was probably the person who was most negatively effected by the death. Ya know...other than the guy that died of course.
It's like the epitome of wealthy Americana. All the money and power he could ask for but he'll still throw his health down the drain just because he can.
I know this show isnt accurate to reality and all that, but they should have known Monk wasnt supposed to touch the antenna or the buttons on the phone. Goes against his character and simple police edicate. and yes, i am fun at parties, if i ever get invited to one...
This was [actually] Dale's idea. The plan was for them to look and keep looking in the wrong direction. Unfortunately for Dale, as you see here, Monk sees that the victim didn't grab a knife when it was right there and that the phone's antenna was down. Plus, for the doggy bag here, Monk finds out that the judge had just come in from that restaurant and was then attacked. Why would she be cooking something if she had brought home a doggy bag?
i keep wondering why they had leland have brownish hair ( looking mighty hot with dark hair ) season 2 he has blond . although ted's a hottie period just wonder if he had to look older than monk or look older in general so he becomes blond .
I love that people are only now starting to widely discuss the existence of people who are so wealthy that we don't even know about them, but here's a show that is just spelling out what the nature of power has always been.
One of my favorite episodes! Dale “the Whale” Biederbeck is such a great villain-repugnant, able to do whatever he wants because of his money and connections (having him literally calling the shots of a Congressman is a great way to introduce him), and smart enough to be a genuinely dangerous foe. Fun Fact: “Monk” was originally devised as a take on the Sherlock Holmes stories, with Monk as Sherlock (antisocial genius), Sharona as Watson (both medical professionals), and Stottlemeyer and Disher a decomposition of Inspector Lestrade (LE-land, RAND-y). Dale is a version of Charles Augustus Milverton: both are super-wealthy blackmailers who have legions of minions, and both are personally-despised foes of the main detective. Love this show! :D
And I thought Dale was Professor Moriarty. Even had a similar nickname
Same. Love it plus tax.
Adam Arkin's father, Alan was a great villain too, as well as being a great comdeian.
Christian,
Awesome research, I never knew any of this great information.
I read all the S.H. books when I was but a lass, many, many years ago (which just means I've forgotten most of the plots and characters)!
Thanks again for your time and effort!
In regards to Stottlemeyer and Randy being Lestrade - their names originally actually fit far better than what you have
In the Pilot, Randy is credited as "Randy Deacon", not Disher. So you'd have:
LEland STottlemeyer RAndy DEacon
LESTRADE
I've just realized: When they mention the killer at 1:55, the cut immediately shows us the killer. We are just distracted by the presence of Dale the Whale.
Truuue
Don't you just love good framing?
It was the corn dog!
Brendan Fraser
The most unrealistic part of this scene: Monk had to ask someone else for a handkerchief.
And why did he do that.
Monks prints are now on the dial and the antenna.
But not on the handel tho.
@@rambo8863 He punched the buttons on the phone by using the handkerchief. The antenna is a minor thing, but still a crime scene mistake.
More tellingly, he didn't 'hang up' the phone before recompressing the antenna.
@@MonkeyJedi99 I chalk it down to a writing mistake.
After finishing the series, seeing this video makes me realize how young they looked!
One of the best series ever, great finale, wish it lasted forever.
Yeah. But with all these reboots and revivals that we’ve been getting from other shows, I do hope that it could come back 🤞🙏 or at least a movie like Psych.
Yeah, the Captain looks like a young boy!
It was a really, really satisfying and beautifully emotionally cathartic finale, wasn't it!
@@Kayoss13212 There is a psyche movie?
@@jwill5892 3 movies
I appreciate the shade/sass that Monk is giving when he adds “Of course the hard part is keeping it off.”
Granted, there’s a lot of that in this episode.😉
(Dale strains to grab Monk’s neck; Monk leans closer, but stays out of reach) Sharona: What’s he doing?
@@djmocha7 Monk smiles and says, “I think he’s trying to kill me.”😉
Wraps the phone in a hanky but touches the aerial and the buttons anyway 😆
I love how they paid off "the view is really all I have" in both of the other Dale episodes.
It's strange that they couldn't keep the same actor. But Tim Curry was the best one
@@teneesh3376 I'm pretty sure it was because they were just busy with other projects when those episodes came around.
@@davidalexander3320 oh I don't doubt that. I would prefer some consistency. But without it, we wouldn't get Tim Curry. And I wouldn't trade that for anything
When they brought him back in the last season it was so fantastic seeing him talk with Natalie
Even when the killer couldn’t have done, they still could’ve done it.
And they would have, too!
If your congressman cleans his glasses, he's on the take.
Cool, I'll watch for the honest politicians with completely clouded lenses
I'm so happy this is on peacock, I missed this show. And this episode I'll never forget, and Biderbeck being an important character later in the series was good. Just wish they kept the same actor for all appearances
Tom curry was the best one in my opinion!
@@dewoiski Tim is usually the best in anything.
The director Adam Arkin played him originally because it was easy/cheap to just throw someone in a fat suit. However, Adam had left the series by the second appearance. As the show had become more popular they had money to hire an acclaimed actor such as Tim Curry. Unfortunately that back fired when Tim was not available to play him in the final appearance, as often happens when a guest star is bigger than the show & has better things to do than wait by the phone for a bit part.
This was USA networks' Golden Era. Monk, and Burn Notice.
The first appearance of Dale the Whale
Well, being the 3rd episode, it isnt far from the first appearance of everyone.
@@ChromeCobra True, but is everyone's first appearance anywhere as iconic?
What other episodes did he appear in?
@@harringt100 There were 2 others, one a two part. Mr. Monk is on the run, and the one where a prisoner on death row was poisoned and I cannot remember the name of it.
Tim Curry was the one I remember. He was way more creepier!
Does anyone know why Dale gets recast in every appearance he has in the series. FIrst your man here, then Tim Curry and finally... I can't remember.
They're all good actors, performing the role very well. Though, they do play the character differently from each other notably enough that... I notice it.
I'm pretty sure each time he was recast because the previous actors had other projects they were doing
@@davidalexander3320 The most realistic but boring explanation. Probably right though..
... but maybe not.
Here's what happened. Tim Curry was jealous of your man from this video. So he conducted a plan where he used his deep and old connections to give the man a role that he would conflict with this one in the next appearance.
Opening it up for Curry... who couldn't have forseen later on that EA would pay him stacks of fat cash to play the Russian Premier in Red Alert 3.
Which was a scheme created by the final Dale actor, who was friends with the big wigs at EA. So they mostly wasted Curry's time...
... who somehow still made the role his with lines such as "I'm going to the one place where Captilism hasn't reached... SPACE!"
And that's how it went down.
Probably, just to surprise the audience. If they were to show this actor's name in the beginning credits then, most likely, the viewers would know that they were about to see Dale again. For the third appearance, I'd say it'd make sense given how much of a bind Monk was in. Who better and more capable of setting Monk up?
wait...it was a different person every time?!?!
Yup! Adam Arkin in this episode, Tim Curry in “Mr. Monk Goes to Jail,” and Ray Porter in “Mr. Monk is On the Run.”
Who saw the title and knew it was Dale the whale episode?
Could have been the astronaut episode too. Probably many others as well.
I love Adam Arkan as Dale, and although I have always been a Tim (Curry) fan, I wish they had kept Adam for all three Dale appearances.
Yeah he’s definitely the best Dale. Not just saying that since he’s the first. But the others just don’t seem to get the intricacies of the character.
Totally agree 👍
I think my favorite episode was the one where with the astronaut. **spoilers**
When they accused the guy doing the bone replacement research and he just started laughing and handed them a folder. Then he said that not only did he not have a reason to kill the guy, the guy's death literally ruined his life. Their number 1 suspect not only didn't have a motive but was probably the person who was most negatively effected by the death. Ya know...other than the guy that died of course.
You are the best!
One of the best shows of all time.
That's the main question of many episodes
The Whale was played by 3 actors.
Adam Arkin (Season 1),
Tim Curry (Season 2),
Ray Porter (Season 6).
I wished they'd stick to one actor.
Dale is my favorite supporting character on this show
I can tell sharona is uncomfortable around dale
Woooow
💯🤩💝💕💖
Congrats to the team!!!
He reminds me of Mason Verger.
This sounds meshie ! Tuxedo cat and basket case 🤯😱😰
One of the most richest guys in the world eating corn dogs, word?
It's like the epitome of wealthy Americana. All the money and power he could ask for but he'll still throw his health down the drain just because he can.
*One of the richest
Very good
Where the algorithm gang at that is suddenly being pitched Monk clips?
I know this show isnt accurate to reality and all that, but they should have known Monk wasnt supposed to touch the antenna or the buttons on the phone. Goes against his character and simple police edicate.
and yes, i am fun at parties, if i ever get invited to one...
I don't if he did it, but I have a feeling Dake was SOMEHOW involved.
Minor spoiler alert...
He was involved.
Why try to get someone in trouble for something they couldn’t have possibly have done
This was [actually] Dale's idea.
The plan was for them to look and keep looking in the wrong direction.
Unfortunately for Dale, as you see here, Monk sees that the victim didn't grab a knife when it was right there and that the phone's antenna was down. Plus, for the doggy bag here, Monk finds out that the judge had just come in from that restaurant and was then attacked. Why would she be cooking something if she had brought home a doggy bag?
They can hure a hitman. Exactly the same thing as if it had committed the crime itself.
Case Closed netflix adaptation
like seriously
all murder plan looks like comes from Case Closed
Makes no sense why they didn’t use the same actor. I did love Tim Curry though
Putz is right.
i keep wondering why they had leland have brownish hair ( looking mighty hot with dark hair ) season 2 he has blond . although ted's a hottie period just wonder if he had to look older than monk or look older in general so he becomes blond .
Paganini
Caprice 24
It's those kind of people who are running it now...don't it make you feel safe??
I love that people are only now starting to widely discuss the existence of people who are so wealthy that we don't even know about them, but here's a show that is just spelling out what the nature of power has always been.
@@Levacque There's a saying in what has recently been lumped in with "alt-right" media... "They always tell you what they're doing."
So not cool
Paganini!
Who's the fat guy he looks familiar
🙂
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this show was absolute garbage when it originally aired and DAMNIT TH-cam IF YOU THINK I WANT TO WATCH IT NOW... you're right, I have no life.
any episode with Dale the Whale is my least favorite.
Is it the direction of the writing you dislike, or is it the character itself?