@@ColorUp You inspired me to go try my local Roll to Win table for the first time. First 3 shooters in front of me were PSO and each setting the dice. I came up and random rolled fast like you did in this video and got a 28 streak! 😆 Double tap to Triple lux worked great!
great vid keep it live rolls over dead rolls all day! as a new craps player i can say this will help new players learn the game and not be discouraged by the options.
we have one of these is Bangor (ME) where i live. I am not sure about it yet. I find those speed bumps pretty tough. The rolls seem to be someone rolls 10-14 times or its point out, but that's a typical craps table anyway. I do like you can bet improper. One thing i wish they had is a world bet. I usually bet that on a regular craps table if i am shooting. I still need a few more trips to decide how i feel about this type of game. Would love to see more videos on the " roll to win tables"
Like the video. Just got back from Cherokee, NC, played the electronic craps for hours there using a similar strategy. I like the electronic craps, because I don't have to worry about the operator placing my bets correctly. I will say, it's very hard to make money if you don't play the odds bets on those come bets.
'Now I'm into E Tables because: 1) can bet $5 min w/10x odds, faster and more accurate than handling chips and dealing with dealers, plus can sit on a comfy chair. The downside are the speed bumps, then the plastic top that make dice really bounce.
Many now have bonus features. The one at Ameristar Council Bluffs has a Hot Shooter game. Don't know exact #s and payouts, but it's like 7:1 if u roll 25 times...main jackpot if you roll 50? times, etc.... But i haven't seen all small tall on these machines.
I like the video! Something I would like to see on the channel is timestamps for key points in the video. It may be as simple as a skip to the live roll and a skip to the cash out in the end. In this video, a timestamp to your roll would be good. It would be especially helpful since I come back to your strategy videos regularly to remind myself before I go practice a strategy, and I spend a lot of time clicking around the video to find what I'm looking for. Thanks!
That was Me shooting in the Long sleeve shirt (taking forever I know). I'll admit my tossing was terrible that day. I was at that very same table, 2 weeks ago, and my 1st roll I went 37 rolls & made 4 points. followed up with a couple of rolls in the high teens. I came back after eating some lunch & rolled 28 rolls, Hitting all of the hardways on that roll (8 total)(using the hardway dice set) I have never hit that many with random shooting, maybe 2 if I was lucky. I also shot a pair of 36's recently at the silver legacy (they have the same table) POINT IS......When my throw is "ON" the dice setting works, If My throw is OFF, dice setting is absolutely useless, as You can see here, I sucked that day!. Oh, And wouldn't a bet of $6.00 be better than betting 5.00 on the Six & Eight? I'm pretty sure the payoff is better, 7 for 6 correct me if I am wrong.
Hey! Glad to play with you, though I didn't know it haha. On these digital tables you do not need to make a proper bet of $6 on 6/8 because the machine pays down to the penny. On a real table you wouldn't want to bet $5, as they cannot properly round the bet payoff of $5.83, so they would just pay out $5.
I played one of these at Harrahs. Surface was very weird. Hard to throw dice on as it was almost like a sticky hard rubber. Dealer was giving me the stink eye cause one dice kept stopping before hitting the wall. But at least the table was $10 instead of $25 on the standard tables.
The e-table is interesting but the strategy is hard to watch. Why would you make come bets that are too small to break even on a 7/11? Especially on this cold table.
to prevent losing on early 7's, its a hedge at least for first two rolls. After 4 rolls, yes, in hindsight it is better to just make place bets, but you never know.
Different way to bet a number, pays true odds minus 5%, in some situations it pays better than the typical place bet. th-cam.com/video/qRsaYIj-cgc/w-d-xo.html
How does this different surface affect the Dice Rolls? Anyone do a study on this? I doubt it works in the players favor but I’m certain it’s different from the traditional Craps table. Do you know? They still have the Aligator Wall but I heard the surface is slicker and some Dice Rollers tried to slide the Dice 🎲🎲 to fix the Rolls in their favor but then they added bumps to the surface to counteract it. What do you say? I’d really like to know! The Tables look futuristic and I like the monitors where you can place your bets but I don’t here the excitement or camaraderie that you see at a regular table where players are rooting for each other and get vocal. There’s something to be said about that excitement and atmosphere. The only other point I’d make is that the monitors make it easier for DarkSide players to make their Bets without getting dirty looks from Passline players. I like to play Darkside strategies so this is better for me! Thanks for video! 👏🏻🎲🎲
I have lots of reports from dice setters that they prefer this hard surface and the little stickiness is something they like if they can land their dice flat. it is hard but smooth, so at the beginning there were some attempts to dice slide, but the speed bumps fixed that.
@@ColorUp Interesting! So they think they can take advantage of the surface to make the right numbers roll out? And yet these tables are being taken out in some places instead of expanding so something doesn’t jibe there! Bubble Craps and even Electric Roulette with a Real wheel seems to be here to stay. I only like the Bubble Craps because I can play Dark Side strategies without getting Dirty looks from other players. So I like that!
@@dynjarren8355 well, if you ask the dice controllers, they are being removed from casinos because they are getting such long rolls and beating the casinos. 🤷♂️
Great for darkside players, but a real challenge to set dice because of the speed bumps and the hard plastic top makes the dice bounce a lot. And like live tables, I've found the plastic tops are also different. I was the only one at a Vegas casino where I wanted to try its E Table. I set 3V, 9 was my point, and I bet 5, 6, 8, with alternating Field. Table wasn't very bouncy and I quickly hit all my bets plus made the 9 while the Stickman stared at me. I printed out my credit receipt, and as I left noticed the Stickman pickup and examine my dice. I never went back there again.
Technically you're losing money by not putting odds on your come bets since you're only getting even money if your number hits. Simply use a Faux come strategy by not actually putting money in the come and place the bet after the number hits to at least get vig on when/if it hits the 2nd time.
Technically, odds bet neither wins or loses money. It is a break even bet over time with no house edge. The come bet will always lose money. Odds bet is good to increase variance of your bankroll, which is better if you roll numbers, and worse if you don't. The reason for not using a "faux come bet" is to use the come as a hedge against the 7 for a roll. Don't want a 7, but if it does happen...
From an operators perspective I don't like this. Compared to other Dice ETGs this device has a LOT of risk. It was removed across the Strip within a few months of original launch
What is risk currently? Initially they had a dice sliding problem, and a dealer problem (players convinced dealer to send dice before countdown, so they could roll dice and place bets before being locked out) beyond that? What’s risk? No cheques to worry about.
The Electronic Tables have raised metal tracks or "speed bumps" integrated into the table, Which randomizes the Dice. I have trouble sometimes getting the dice to not hit those metal tracks, & I usually Seven Out when the Dice hit them! look closely & you can see these tracks, they are raised, and they are located where the dice commonly land. The dice setting is useless if the dice hit those tracks, because it sends them every which way but loose.that's the only thing I dislike about this table.
The only hole I dont like about this grinding strategy you demo on this and other videos is youre making come bets with no additional odds on top. Place some odds, 👍🤙🎲🎲👍 or just on your rolls
You should watch my video on odds. It doesn't increase chance of winning. Odds is a break even bet over the long term, it only helps in short term if you hit points. Odds just increases your bankroll variance. If and when I win money from the casino, I then start adding odds bet.
@@ColorUp I understand the logic and I've definitely seen some of your videos when you talk about variance of the bet. But because you're hedging your place bets with the Come and not taking odds, I feel like you're better off using 4 place bets (or 2 place 6&8 + 2 buy 5&9) because why are you trying to survive the come out without taking odds. You're looking for repeat #s in both cases but you're getting paid on the first hit with straight forward place/buy betting. To each their own. I'm not the same though when it comes to the Dont Pass. I'd rather make a larger intial bet on the DP, and survive a 7 or 11, then have it hit a 4 or 10 and place more odds to win less. I understand the probability doesnt change just the logic of putting up 2 to win 1 doesnt sit well with me.
As someone who's played many places, my opinion: 1. Don't ever play bubble craps. Those big dice are not legit. 2. Dice setting/control can be beneficial, but >half the setters (including me) can't throw on a perfect axis without hitting the alligator. 3. These new electric tables with real dice are nice. Only one dealer, no wrong payouts, less confusion, quieter. But drawback is it's too quiet and doesn't have community energy of live table.
Bubble craps...are you claiming the casinos are cheating and subjecting themselves to lose their gaming license for a $1 game? Or do you just mean because the are rounded, and tumble around..in this case wouldn't that be great for a random outcome?
When my casino didn't like the results of their old bubble craps, they replaced them with new machines with dice that are controlled by magnets. Perfectly legal with slot payback of around 92%. But not random and not advertised as a slot.
Not sure what jurisdiction you are in, but that’s not legal in Nevada. If it represents dice, it must have same odds and payouts as standard dice game.
This rumor comes from some jurisdictions not updating their legal. They didn’t fit “table games” so they are classified as “slot machines”. Many places have updated laws to properly define as “electronic table games”
You do that all the time... Stop Come bets and just put them numbers out to begin and stop pressing just leave at 2 units and collect all. You could've been up
Love it when you random shoot and do better than the setters who take forever lol. Appreciate the video and tips!
Ha, yup
I just shake and roll. I had 31 in a row last time on one of these tables, fourth highest ever for that table. Also a 28 and 27 rolls. Just need luck.
@@ColorUp You inspired me to go try my local Roll to Win table for the first time. First 3 shooters in front of me were PSO and each setting the dice. I came up and random rolled fast like you did in this video and got a 28 streak! 😆 Double tap to Triple lux worked great!
Awesome!!!!!
"Taking forever " makes us all lose less in the end. Tske as long as you want to shoot I say.
great vid keep it live rolls over dead rolls all day!
as a new craps player i can say this will help new players learn the game and not be discouraged by the options.
we have one of these is Bangor (ME) where i live. I am not sure about it yet. I find those speed bumps pretty tough. The rolls seem to be someone rolls 10-14 times or its point out, but that's a typical craps table anyway. I do like you can bet improper. One thing i wish they had is a world bet. I usually bet that on a regular craps table if i am shooting. I still need a few more trips to decide how i feel about this type of game. Would love to see more videos on the " roll to win tables"
Loving the live roll vids and love the hybrid table! Thanks Color up for the content as always!
Glad you like them!
played this table at Harrahs for the first time last week and had a 41 roll streak. Got me hooked!
I find that I have better rolls on the roll to win table vs Normal
Can't wait to see your next live roll! Very much enjoyed.
Awesome thank you!
Nice demonstration, Jeremy. I wish more casinos offered Roll to Win craps. Thanks.
You and me both!
Like the video. Just got back from Cherokee, NC, played the electronic craps for hours there using a similar strategy. I like the electronic craps, because I don't have to worry about the operator placing my bets correctly. I will say, it's very hard to make money if you don't play the odds bets on those come bets.
'Now I'm into E Tables because: 1) can bet $5 min w/10x odds, faster and more accurate than handling chips and dealing with dealers, plus can sit on a comfy chair. The downside are the speed bumps, then the plastic top that make dice really bounce.
They have these electronic tables in Scottsdale, Arizona. Kind of cool but miss the dealing and talking with dealers.
Yes, not the same experience for sure
I love the electronic tables just wish they had bonus craps on it.
Once they update software, it will have a side bet.
@@ColorUp can't wait
Many now have bonus features. The one at Ameristar Council Bluffs has a Hot Shooter game. Don't know exact #s and payouts, but it's like 7:1 if u roll 25 times...main jackpot if you roll 50? times, etc.... But i haven't seen all small tall on these machines.
I like the video! Something I would like to see on the channel is timestamps for key points in the video. It may be as simple as a skip to the live roll and a skip to the cash out in the end. In this video, a timestamp to your roll would be good. It would be especially helpful since I come back to your strategy videos regularly to remind myself before I go practice a strategy, and I spend a lot of time clicking around the video to find what I'm looking for.
Thanks!
You can create the time stamp in the comment for later. His run 20:30
@@stevenmurata4392 Thanks. I was hoping for him to do it to benefit us all, but that's definitely a good tip.
Actually never considered timestamps/chapters, maybe its something I'll institute. Thanks
one thing i like about these tables is that they are shorter. this makes dice throws easier
That was Me shooting in the Long sleeve shirt (taking forever I know). I'll admit my tossing was terrible that
day. I was at that very same table, 2 weeks ago, and my 1st roll I went 37 rolls & made 4 points. followed up with a couple of rolls in the high teens. I came back after eating some lunch & rolled 28 rolls, Hitting all of the hardways on that roll (8 total)(using the hardway dice set) I have never hit that many with random shooting, maybe 2 if I was lucky.
I also shot a pair of 36's recently at the silver legacy (they have the same table)
POINT IS......When my throw is "ON" the dice setting works, If My throw is OFF, dice setting is absolutely useless, as You can see here, I sucked that day!. Oh, And wouldn't a bet of $6.00 be better than betting 5.00 on the Six & Eight? I'm pretty sure the payoff is better, 7 for 6 correct me if I am wrong.
Hey! Glad to play with you, though I didn't know it haha. On these digital tables you do not need to make a proper bet of $6 on 6/8 because the machine pays down to the penny. On a real table you wouldn't want to bet $5, as they cannot properly round the bet payoff of $5.83, so they would just pay out $5.
Same odds $6/6 *7 = $7. $5/6*7 = 5.83333333333 and it pays 5.83 on normal table they would just give you the $5
Great video !! I enjoy these live electronic steams.
Glad you like them!
Hey Color Up, great video as always! Awesome channel. Do you see these e-craps tables becoming the new norm or just a novelty?
I think they are a nice option, but will never replace real tables. Many were installed in Vegas, and have already been removed so....
I played one of these at Harrahs. Surface was very weird. Hard to throw dice on as it was almost like a sticky hard rubber. Dealer was giving me the stink eye cause one dice kept stopping before hitting the wall. But at least the table was $10 instead of $25 on the standard tables.
Many dice setters prefer this surface, I guess you have to get used to it. Yes, lower minimums is a huge feature of this table.
LOVE THE E TABLE
They Have This @ The Planet Hollywood Hotel In Las Vegas..
Waylon’s Way Craps has a hybrid. X2 video. Can you show that one?
Jeremy, the table top you throw on is it glass or plexiglass, looks hard for setters to throw on
Its some sort of led panel with a thin rubber like material screen over it. Most setters love it because it’s very hard surface with little bounce
Lmao @ the shooter at 17:15 setting the dice just to shoot random then 7 out in 4 rolls lmao
looking forward to these hybrid craps table videos. good on the casino to let you record
You and me both!
Did you try the Martingale I suggested?
The e-table is interesting but the strategy is hard to watch. Why would you make come bets that are too small to break even on a 7/11? Especially on this cold table.
to prevent losing on early 7's, its a hedge at least for first two rolls. After 4 rolls, yes, in hindsight it is better to just make place bets, but you never know.
Where is this table? Vegas? Hard rock?
It says five dollar minimum total bet. Can you bet $1 on each number. Or minimum of $5 on each number?
Man no come bet odds is painful to watch..btw how often are you playing? Sounded like you were playing on days.
I add odds at end once I start winning and get other numbers covered
When u come up to the table with your bankroll do u give it to the dealer or put it in like a slot machine
Insert like a slot machine below terminal.
I like playing on these table so much more I don’t have to sit and wait for every to throw in there hop bets and hard ways and all that
Thats one of benefits
What does it mean to “buy”?
Different way to bet a number, pays true odds minus 5%, in some situations it pays better than the typical place bet. th-cam.com/video/qRsaYIj-cgc/w-d-xo.html
The dice on these tables are rough to set on
On $5 digital tables like this can you make $4 on all the hardways or $1 prop bets, etc? Or do they make you keep it $5+ ?
You can make $1, and even a $1 horn bet, which is basically 25cent on each.
How does this different surface affect the Dice Rolls? Anyone do a study on this? I doubt it works in the players favor but I’m certain it’s different from the traditional Craps table. Do you know? They still have the Aligator Wall but I heard the surface is slicker and some Dice Rollers tried to slide the Dice 🎲🎲 to fix the Rolls in their favor but then they added bumps to the surface to counteract it. What do you say? I’d really like to know!
The Tables look futuristic and I like the monitors where you can place your bets but I don’t here the excitement or camaraderie that you see at a regular table where players are rooting for each other and get vocal. There’s something to be said about that excitement and atmosphere.
The only other point I’d make is that the monitors make it easier for DarkSide players to make their Bets without getting dirty looks from Passline players. I like to play Darkside strategies so this is better for me!
Thanks for video! 👏🏻🎲🎲
I have lots of reports from dice setters that they prefer this hard surface and the little stickiness is something they like if they can land their dice flat. it is hard but smooth, so at the beginning there were some attempts to dice slide, but the speed bumps fixed that.
@@ColorUp
Interesting! So they think they can take advantage of the surface to make the right numbers roll out?
And yet these tables are being taken out in some places instead of expanding so something doesn’t jibe there!
Bubble Craps and even Electric Roulette with a Real wheel seems to be here to stay. I only like the Bubble Craps because I can play Dark Side strategies without getting Dirty looks from other players. So I like that!
@@dynjarren8355 well, if you ask the dice controllers, they are being removed from casinos because they are getting such long rolls and beating the casinos. 🤷♂️
@@ColorUp
Oh, now I get it!
I misunderstood.
Well, that figures!
Thanks for telling me that!
Great for darkside players, but a real challenge to set dice because of the speed bumps and the hard plastic top makes the dice bounce a lot. And like live tables, I've found the plastic tops are also different. I was the only one at a Vegas casino where I wanted to try its E Table. I set 3V, 9 was my point, and I bet 5, 6, 8, with alternating Field. Table wasn't very bouncy and I quickly hit all my bets plus made the 9 while the Stickman stared at me. I printed out my credit receipt, and as I left noticed the Stickman pickup and examine my dice. I never went back there again.
How do you buy in? Card or feed money in slot?
feed money in slot
Where is the casino
Reno, NV
Technically you're losing money by not putting odds on your come bets since you're only getting even money if your number hits.
Simply use a Faux come strategy by not actually putting money in the come and place the bet after the number hits to at least get vig on when/if it hits the 2nd time.
Technically, odds bet neither wins or loses money. It is a break even bet over time with no house edge. The come bet will always lose money. Odds bet is good to increase variance of your bankroll, which is better if you roll numbers, and worse if you don't.
The reason for not using a "faux come bet" is to use the come as a hedge against the 7 for a roll. Don't want a 7, but if it does happen...
@@ColorUp I didn't factor the evil number in my calculation.
Where are you?
Currently at home ha. This video is filmed in Reno
Great video.
I don't mind dice setting, but someone taking the time to set them just picking them up randomly and chucking them makes no sense.
I don't understand, but whatever, its their turn to roll ha
From an operators perspective I don't like this. Compared to other Dice ETGs this device has a LOT of risk. It was removed across the Strip within a few months of original launch
What is risk currently? Initially they had a dice sliding problem, and a dealer problem (players convinced dealer to send dice before countdown, so they could roll dice and place bets before being locked out) beyond that? What’s risk? No cheques to worry about.
More dice setters...who then throw the dice so they bounce randomly!
The Electronic Tables have raised metal tracks or "speed bumps" integrated into the table, Which randomizes the Dice. I have trouble sometimes getting the dice to not hit those metal tracks, & I usually Seven Out when the Dice hit them! look closely & you can see these tracks, they are raised, and they are located where the dice commonly land. The dice setting is useless if the dice hit those tracks, because it sends them every which way but loose.that's the only thing I dislike about this table.
@@toxsickdog It's useless, Full stop. Nobody has ever proven otherwise.
That’s too much work when you can start inside with your 20, 2 hits and you’re only down $6, three hits and you’re up
The only hole I dont like about this grinding strategy you demo on this and other videos is youre making come bets with no additional odds on top. Place some odds, 👍🤙🎲🎲👍 or just on your rolls
You should watch my video on odds. It doesn't increase chance of winning. Odds is a break even bet over the long term, it only helps in short term if you hit points. Odds just increases your bankroll variance. If and when I win money from the casino, I then start adding odds bet.
@@ColorUp I understand the logic and I've definitely seen some of your videos when you talk about variance of the bet. But because you're hedging your place bets with the Come and not taking odds, I feel like you're better off using 4 place bets (or 2 place 6&8 + 2 buy 5&9) because why are you trying to survive the come out without taking odds. You're looking for repeat #s in both cases but you're getting paid on the first hit with straight forward place/buy betting.
To each their own. I'm not the same though when it comes to the Dont Pass. I'd rather make a larger intial bet on the DP, and survive a 7 or 11, then have it hit a 4 or 10 and place more odds to win less. I understand the probability doesnt change just the logic of putting up 2 to win 1 doesnt sit well with me.
As someone who's played many places, my opinion:
1. Don't ever play bubble craps. Those big dice are not legit.
2. Dice setting/control can be beneficial, but >half the setters (including me) can't throw on a perfect axis without hitting the alligator.
3. These new electric tables with real dice are nice. Only one dealer, no wrong payouts, less confusion, quieter. But drawback is it's too quiet and doesn't have community energy of live table.
Bubble craps...are you claiming the casinos are cheating and subjecting themselves to lose their gaming license for a $1 game? Or do you just mean because the are rounded, and tumble around..in this case wouldn't that be great for a random outcome?
I've been told by insiders that bubble craps works like a slot machine with a pre-determined outcome. Not technically cheating, but also not random.
When my casino didn't like the results of their old bubble craps, they replaced them with new machines with dice that are controlled by magnets. Perfectly legal with slot payback of around 92%. But not random and not advertised as a slot.
Not sure what jurisdiction you are in, but that’s not legal in Nevada. If it represents dice, it must have same odds and payouts as standard dice game.
This rumor comes from some jurisdictions not updating their legal. They didn’t fit “table games” so they are classified as “slot machines”. Many places have updated laws to properly define as “electronic table games”
Table is pretty cool. Strategy is highly questionable
You do that all the time... Stop Come bets and just put them numbers out to begin and stop pressing just leave at 2 units and collect all. You could've been up
could've should've...easy to know after dice results
What a boring and losing strategy