I've learned that rejection is only as painful as the expectations we have. When we have feelings for someone, but understand that not only are we not entitled to that person, but that rejection is normal, we don't take it personal. It still sucks but you move on soooo much quicker and become stronger. You need little expectations
I'm more in pain from my gf discarding me than I was by my wife of 20 years....and it's not that she even took another man because she cannot really have a healthy relationship..it just hurts because she had so much in common with me and she is soooo beautiful and the sex was fucking INSANE....I love you Leslie Latorre..I will be waiting for you forever...
I've learned through my relationships not to project my expectations on a partner or to try to get them to conform to mine (or vice versa). Reciprocity is so important.
The issue is that you get rejected 90% of time over things you can't control such looks or hight...etc. This thing should make men really think about there priorities in Life. If its 90% out of your hand you should only spend 1% of time thinking about it.
Thank you Todd for sharing your thoughts. That was actually done intentionally to further highlight the paradox of his views. But yeah, you are right, it can appear slightly confusing.
I think that's The way it was done back then, for the most part. also, I have a feeling she did like him, he just moved to soon, and needed to take a better approach. I say she liked him because all of us have a tendency to say the opposite of how we really feel... Nor does it really matter, a major point for myself is to not let rejection cause me to become bitter.. thanks for the Video!!!
it's what we've been repressing, for social or other reasons, aspects of our personality that had been subdued, but in crisis or transitions often then aspects take new roles ... i've reorientated some of myself towards my family, expressing new sides, for these reasons
Oh God, I know nothing about my shadow. I don’t even know where to find it or locate it! And I think I have a very good relationship with myself ahah!😂
So is it like when you hear people get married and they're all like yea he's so great omg I'm so lucky, then three years later are like omg he's psycho I've never seen this side of him?
Despite his brilliant mind, he let his emotions override his objectivity. It is a human trait that often results in tragic outcomes. The Superior Man would not approve.
@@MeeCee5204 if she sat on your lap,you'd soon lose your objectivity !if she sat on my lap,I'd have the mental stability of a demented rhinoceros on LSD!
I'm surprised that a man of such intellect would have such a response. It seems like a childish response to rejection, not well balanced and overly emotional.
In the case of romantic rejection, it is a direct hit to the ego. Whether you presented a persona or were truly vulnerable. Rejection of a persona hurts the identity mask the ego wears out in the world. Rejection of your vulnerable self is probably considerably more painful. Especially if the person you desire chooses someone else, as this causes the ego to force comparisons, it triggers all sorts of childhood wounds. Then the person can project all the anger onto people who share the characteristics of the person who rejected them (in this case women). Rejection by peers or society is a different type of rejection and is more painful in my view. As it is a rejection by multiple people, whereas with a rejection by a single person could be attributed to their personal tastes and desires. Rejection by society reminds me of the proverb about the child who is not embraced by the village. They will burn it down to feel it’s warmth.
The sad thing is that rejection by peers or family or society is more of injustice than anything else because it's coming from not understanding you nor your needs in a particular time of your life and the most awful thing is that they probably will never "forgive you" (forgiveness by their means of course because they think you're guilty) for who the person are
Not getting what we want in turn becomes us "wanting" the most "undesirable" parts of ourselves. We get rejected then we accept the worst of ourselves, unleash the shadow
I think that for me at least, happiness is kind of somewhat finite and each time someone feels rejected, their happiness glass gets a little smaller, but you can always try to find ways to fill it again.
I ran into this video while browsing self help videos to listen to in between sets on the squat rack. Very insightful, and it gives me pause to make sure I am not consumed by anger or sadness that I have.
This Is great! I had unrequited romantical feelings for someone and opened myself up to her. Looking Back, Us both handled the situation whith grace and interpersonal love making it an eye opening experience: What i learned Is, that rejection of someone's romantic interest differs greatly from the rejection someone's whole person! So people i propose to you not to wait: I Say that It Is better to run flattly against a wall than regretting standing still later, because if it was a person worth opening oneself up and fighting for it may hurt but you won't break any bones Have a good day! ❤️
@@motormouthalmighty It was quite turbulent on my feelings If that is what you mean!😂 But i would only call it a desaster if both of us hadn't handled the situation the way we did. It could have been disastrous, but thanks to both of us it was only as bad as absolutely necessery in such a situation.
@@herrqwertz3567 I'll take that to mean that it was yet another disaster on planet earth amid countless other disasters!planet earth! just one clueless disaster after another! good man!good man!you're hired!no pence an hour.tactical advisor to the greatly disenfranchised and those unlucky in love,life and everything!remember!if you can't be good!be lucky!
Great channel, great videos. As a psychologist whose biggest interest is philosophy, this truly hits the spot. One must wonder if Nietzsche was aware of his own hipocrisy. His writings are quite ironic seeing how highly he valued perspectivism.
He was generally very self-aware too, I guess everyone has blind spots. Although I wouldn't put it past him to be aware on some level but still fall back on projection in some moments
Recently I was in a gathering and I felt very rejected by my relatives. It was such a horrible feeling and for weeks I felt worthless, I had zero motivation to do anything. I told myself I shouldn't care so much but it didn't work. Unconsciously, I was really harbouring hatred towards everyone. So Thank you, this video was very much needed to make me aware of what is happening with me. I'll try to grow personally.
I found a great saying years ago, and I quote it often. "You wouldn't worry so much about what people think about you, if you knew how seldom they did." Some people find this a horrible insult, but I find it quite liberating, and VERY true. We're all caught up in our own little dramas and for the most part aren't noticing every little quirk and details of other people's lives.
@@ferociousgumby Ego is the cause of such feelings. I always tell myself I am important to me not to others, so seldom would anybody think about me but I constantly think about myself. All happens in the moment and passes away like the clouds in the sky. Don't cling on past events, look ahead and see all the opportunities before you to make your dream world.
Most of us have been rejected to a certain extent and this video felt very relatable. Philosophers are often kept on a pedestal as those deep thinkers, always rational who can do no wrong, but despite their great intellect, they were humans just like us, and that lead to wrongdoings. I've read beyond good and evil and at first I thought Nietzsche's misogynistic undertones were part of the general misogyny of his time. I'm studying psychology and I loved the combination of the fields. You gained a new subscriber 😊
Thanks Peggy for your thoughts. Really glad you liked the video and the combination of philosophy and psychology :) Looking forward to hearing your thoughts in future vids
I got rejected by a woman at the begining of 2022 and man it sucked cus i had convinced myself after like 6+ months of thinking and questioning that she did like me and it turns out she had a BF. I was soo shocked and i let it get to me wayyy too much I was so angry for months and started getting into the red pill shit being more and more misogynistic. Was about a year after I had broken up with my ex of 5 years for cheating on me so i think the rejection just added to that pain and anger... I am glad I noticed my changing attitudes and now I think I am getting a lot better and have healthy relationships with women. Introspection and meditation baby!
Hey man, first of all love yourself and harness what you already know is good and beautiful in you. If other people can't recognize that, that's their problem - and you want someone who really wants you anyways. But you gotta love yourself and trust the goodness in you will shine out and attract someone that is drawn to your light. Redpill and similars are almost pure resentment with a very weak theory behind it (with so many unfundamented assumptions).
Your still stuck in theblue pill. Red Pill isn't misogynistic. That's just more of your BP conditioning about love. You are truly plugged in and are highly emotional. You need to learn how to put yourself first. 6 Mos to find out she had a boyfriend. 6 Mos. Are you kidding me. What were you orbiting all that time. Hey I like you. But you don't know wtf your doing. Check out a guide by a guy called antidump for initial help so you never do this again. And go back to the rp with an openmind for improvement.
Excellent video. Nietzsche could have benefited from archetypal psychology by realizing he was unconsciously projecting Anima--the divine woman within--onto Salome when he was in love with her. By actively withdrawing his positive Anima projection after she rejected him he could have avoided projecting a negative Anima onto her as a defense mechanism which became a Shadow projection onto all women. It wouldn't make the heartbreak any less but at least it's a positive approach to acknowledging and healing a broken heart without hating himself and the whole world. I have seen so many men and women make this mistake. Women do it by projecting Animus onto men and falling into the same defense mechanism trap projecting Shadow onto all men. To be clear we're talking heteronormative relationships here. This defense mechanism is a product of the (bruised) ego which must be actively acknowledged and set aside to allow healing. Pain--social or physical--is the brain's way of teaching us to avoid painful stimuli in the future. To this end the amygdala does an excellent job remembering our most traumatic experiences. It's not there to torture us with PTSD but to teach us to avoid repeating the same mistake. Making conscious what's unconscious is an uncomfortable but ultimately rewarding experience.
I've heard this exact analysis before, but I have never been able to really grasp it. Do you think you could explain more fully what you mean by "withdrawing the positive Anima"? I have a lot of residual resentment and anger that I would like to let go of, but I honestly don't know how to do this. I've long been fascinated by Jungian psychology. There are times when it seems to contain profound wisdom. However, at other times, certain Jungian proscriptions sound like nothing more than self-contradictory sophistry. The notion of the shadow for example. If all that we hate is actually contained within our selves, then what value can life possibly have? It seems to paint human life as something quite thoroughly wretched, and not at all worth living. Obviously, there is some disconnect here between Jung's actual ideas and my understanding of them, but despite my ongoing interest in Jungian theory, I cannot seem to resolve the paradoxes that I find there.
@@ahobimo732 "Withdrawing the positive Anima" projection is simply realizing you're in love with your Anima projection NOT with the individual on whom you're projecting her. Actively withdrawing the projection allows you to see and accept her as a human not a goddess. I use the adjective "positive" because she is like a goddess in white. Her negative form is like the evil dark goddess which is what Nietzsche began projecting on Salome when she rejected him. Unfortunately he never stopped projecting negative Anima onto her and it turned into an evil projection onto ALL women. Shadow. The contradiction you experience is due to the fact that individuals are a mix of good and bad, beautiful and ugly, and everything in between. Yourself included. We are human. All dualisms exist inside us. One side of a coin does not exist without the other. Life is wretched. It is also wonderful. That's just another this/that dualism. The key to life is living with both ie living with the paradox. It's not a mystery to solve. It's a reality to experience. Remember that the point of Jung's psychology as well as Freud's before him is to make conscious what is unconscious.
@@longlakeshore After all, he did his job as a writer and it's a good thing that he was given the opportunity to present both sides of the anima/animus, which eventually show up within all of us, right?
I have been battling with my emotions for many years now. I have no problems with rejection itself but with HOW that rejection is handled. particularly the contemporary phenomena called ghosting, it torments and I wish for it to stop.
Rejection is unbearable to me at age 26. I used to take it in stride in my younger years - short of being yelled at by adults - but now I feel battery acid flood my veins and my stomach churn when I receive so much as a sarcastic quip. It's as if all of my previous rejections came back to me in that moment and conspired to attempt to kill me. Every week that passes my pain grows, and with it, envy and hate mounting like steam in a train engine. There is nowhere for it to go, as this steam is sealed tight behind an ironclad veil of civility, so it melts away my internal landscape, warping it into some abominable shape not meant to be looked upon by mortal eyes lest their viewer become insane. Yet... I have more love for this twisted creature within than the pedestrian persona without, the shamefully ordinary face I must display to survive in a public sphere that is hostile to my true self. I love the horrible demonic thing within, a macabre work of art forged in the kiln of this cruel society and its repressive ways. After all, how can a jewel be made if not under duress?
This is how I feel, I'm constantly boiling inside wondering why I feel so strongly but at the same time I'm fascinated by the restraint I show on the outside.
This is super relatable! Thank you for opening my eyes to see something so obvious, yet has always only been in my peripheries. I'm taking your idea, and I'll be running with it. thumbs up!
From the University of Virginia "Although Nietzsche has been considered by some critics to be a misogynist for his treatment of woman, women, and the feminine, Frances Nesbitt Oppel offers a radical reinterpretation of the philosopher's ideas on sex, gender, and sexuality. In Nietzsche on Gender: Beyond Man and Woman, she argues that a closer reading of Nietzsche's texts and rhetorical style (especially his use of metaphor and irony), as well as his letters and notes, shows that he was strategically and deliberately dismantling dualistic thinking in general, not only the logical hierarchies of western thought (God/human, heaven/earth, mind/body, reason/emotion, ethos/pathos) but also the assumed gender opposition of man/woman. In the process, she pulls the rug out from under the accusation of his alleged misogyny."
Seems like a pretty big reach to me, imo some people really would rather make up some elaborate mental gymnastics rather than accept that maybe he was just bitching that he didn't get the girl he wanted, I might be wrong but imo it's a bit extra to go as far as writing all that when it's wayyy more likely he was just butthurt (just think is that more probable or do you really think it was all intentional?) either way it's real common with most artists n philosophers n writers etc... to be overinterpreted years after they're gone, people already have rose colored glasses when it comes to stuff in the past so think of how that could effect their views regarding shit that they never had any part in n which they only know whatever remains centuries later
Rejection of any kind let it be a partner, job loss or any thing were we place meaning of our life can invoke the “ dark night of the soul “. Then as person processes his loss he may realise that the feelings he/she had was the projection of his own thoughts and he was oblivious to the reality.
osho: "Nietzsche never attempted to approach another woman for the simple reason that that may again have provoked the feeling of inferiority; once was enough. He was a very egoistic type of man; it is a rare phenomenon. If some woman says, "I am not in love with you," that does not mean that there will not be a woman who will not be able to accept you. And he had qualities of his own; there was no need to be another Wagner. He was not a musician, but he had his own qualities: he was a great philosopher. But he forgot all about his qualities and he started comparing himself only with Wagner. And the insult went so deep.." - Source - Osho Book "From Personality to Individuality"
Wow, this video really hit home for me! I've always been fascinated by Nietzsche and Carl Jung, and their insights on the human psyche. It's true that the pain of rejection can really bring out our hidden shadows, but it's also a chance for growth and self-discovery. This video beautifully explains how we can use that pain as a catalyst for personal transformation. Thank you for sharing such a thought-provoking and empowering message!
@Aila Verco Even then, if you let it, then I think any rejection will teach you that the only thing you need to get what you want is yourself. I had a pretty messy and sad one but it still made me introspect and figure out what I really wanted to go after in life.
You can absorb the negative energy and use it as fuel for accomplishing your goals or selfimprovement. But it doesnt change the fact of what happened. The scar remains. But good point.
The rejection alone is not cause for Nietzsche's bitterness against women, his experience with his mother and sister were very bad as well. I would also like to add about Lou Salomé, she didn't believe in marriage but later went to marry Friedrich Carl Andreas as a celibate marriage, however when she was 37, she met a young art student Rilke aged 21 and got romantically involved with him while being celibately married to Friedrich Carl.
It's really a magic you covered this topic... I found the wisdom for some questions which really really bothered me. thank you so much subscribed and liked the video!
Wow, I am so glad the video resonated with you and that you found some valuable insights. Thank you for subscribing and I look forward to seeing you around in future vids :)
According to Carl jung, what men do to a woman (especially when it is a first sight love) is to project there Anima to her. And The anima working as relation factor between our self, ego (or shadow, I can't remember) and reality, so when we get rejected our image about ourselves, ego and real world is destroyed, and we literally shatters to pieces, and we have to pick ourselves up and start all over again. This Is my interpretation... Anyway I'm going through a break up(over dumb reason) and I cannot get over it after 5 months, but It's really helped me to learn myself and about the real world... believe it or not.
I do not know why evolution chose to hardwire love and not put it in our control. Apparently it's because people didn't live long so nature took control of the train but it would have been better if it were in our power. Broken homes, overpopulation and rejection would have been a reduced phenomena. But I must sound like a eugenicists... all my reading has taught me one thing I'm fundamentally broken, incomplete in one way or another
@@ea_naseer I've this idea that Judeo-Christian tradition has emphasised on the idea of "Love" as the core value of our life... And you can see it everywhere in every book, that Love is the solution of everything and we should all aim for it. But no-one knows what they mean by Love !, is romantic Love, is friendship love or is plutionc love !!!, Nobody knows literally. Nietzsche called love "Virtue of herd" because love trigger something in every one of us, doesn't matter of you had an IQ of 60 or 200, when you hear Love there is something move within you. That's why it's popular as the core value and main virtue that everyone pursue and seek. I think even our hyper sexualized culture is a result of "Love is our core virtue"... What if justice, freedom or beauty is our core value and we all should aim for one of these.
Girls asking me out back in school sorta broke my brain. I don't even believe in such..wont bother to try. It's too late at 28. It does help to research these things as not to ruminate.
@@lyfeglass I thought you must have at least 500k so was surprised to see your sub count! You actually kept me engaged the whole time most people annoy me haha. Good work mate
That Nietzsche guy lived most of his adult life lonely and miserable but atleast he wrote honestly about his own emotions and thoughts about the world and its inhabitants so we can learn about the weaknesses and errors in our human nature.
@@sethhillyer4443 ofcourse he was a brilliant individual but I don't know him personally neither do you so What's your problem with me referring to him as that guy?
Outstanding content. I am a fan of Joe Dispenza. Have you presented some of his work?.. Interesting, I was hoping to hear that person to present his own?. Thank you for sharing.
Hey Yuna, glad you liked the video and thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts :). While I have heard of Joe Dispenza, I am only roughly aware of his works.
Men, you may feel rejected. You may think it's the worst thing in the world, and it certainly feels terrible, I've been there; but... Once you've seen what some women can do to the men they "love", you'll almost be grateful that you haven't been ensnared in a parasitic relationship of fetishized betrayal and existential torture.
Not to be offensive, but what sort of accent do you have? I can't place it somehow. I kept thinking Irish or Scottish. Then I thought, maybe East European? It's charming, by the way, and adds colour to your narration.
No offense taken at all :). And I totally understand your question as my accent is learned through regular school in Germany, some short stays in the UK, and mainly by watching a lot of movies and videos :). I remember watching movies or just regular youtube videos and as a new word came up that I didn't know yet, I would often stop, look it up and then mumble it to myself to learn the pronunciation. Actually, I still do that nowadays :)
Glad you liked the video :) I actually watched countless tutorials here on youtube to edit videos. Making the videos does take me quite some time as I am still relatively slow and new to this. I think currently it's around two to three weeks per video.
Thank you, appreciate your warm words of encouragement :). I don't have a reading list currently, but I may create one in the future as this is a great idea. For now, I can direct you to the sources of the video which are shown at the end, and let me know if there is something specific you are looking for :)
@@RM-pn8wy Great, I will definitely keep that in mind when I create a reading list. Spontaneously, I can really recommend the book "Behave" by Robert Sapolsky. It's a great read on human behavior through the lens of biology and neuropsychology :)
For me being rejected is like losing to a game, I just try again or mostly just play another game I can win and sometimes I just hack the game and win. When I was working in marketing and sales the first thing I learned is that rejection is the first step to all deals. You have to turn a no into a yes. If a girl rejects you that does not mean game over, that only means you have to try harder, impresse the girl. You either play a fair game and understand what does the girl see as impressive of you can go and understand what drives women to accept a man and hack your way through. Also try the other pizzas, one pizza is no pizza at all.
@@clare_jordin Perseverance is key to success! But you must be worth it! I only fight for the best of the best. I don't waste my time with average. And to this day I always get the number one.
@@3DVizzion I understand what you saying. It’s up to you if you’re going to waste more time and energy on someone after being rejected. It’s almost never worth it but it can still be done
@@MB-ce7ue Myself I have never been rejected anyways for the women I chose to date. But I must say I always make sure that the girl likes me too before I court her. But I have seen guys who succeeded on having girls way out of their class or league far too hot for them by just keep on knocking. But if you want a girl it is good goal and working on yourself to get a chance is even better for you as even if you do not get the girl you have improved yourself for better than.
It's not a projection of 'the shadow' to be resentful after a rejection. Women are highly selective and often cruel. They do this on a regular basis, yet still tend to love their brothers, sons, and CHOSEN partners. I emphasize the word CHOSEN, because it is the women who choose. Nietzsche wasn't projecting anything. Resentment often brings up different, yet no less logical perspectives on things and people. Sometimes, the perspective could be even more logical, or even 'true'. You have to ask yourself, if a man's mood can rely so much upon the acceptance or rejection of a woman, then who is the more powerful sex? But does said feminine power rely at all upon intellectual work or achievement? Not really.
@@mangopuddingdancetime5980 a very interesting perspective, indeed. I would insert that nature is unfair, scarcity is rampant, and that almost everyone enters the grave under-developed, in some way or other, based on others or their own perception. I just think the fact that women are the gatekeepers of sex and reproduction indicates that they choose and reject more frequently. I myself, as a man, know that this isn't a universal. I've rejected women too, but much less often.
@@FuckEntropy Throughout all of history women have always reproduced at much higher rates than men. Women are the choosers, men hope to be chosen. That's just Nature. The problem is women vote to nurture this problem even worse by voting for sexual authority without sexual responsibility for themselves with putting sexual responsibility onto the the men they rejected who have less sexual authority.
@Aila Verco Well not exactly, seldom will you find a man openly rejecting a woman in a romantic context. Men, however, can be treated like less than human without a second thought. It's just an unfortunate dichotomy by which we've evolved. I think it's best to acknowledge this fact and be better towards each other.
@@dwellinginshadows whilst it is true that most men do not reject women in a sexual context, that is not to say that it is the same in the romantic context. and think about it for a second. if your primary biological goal was to reproduce and you could do that only a few times (quite contrary to the male species where there is no limit), wouldn't you be choosy too? wouldn't you want to make sure that your offspring get the best possible genes?
tbh I think nietzsche's biggest problem was his arrogance - sure, super smart, good for general philosophy advancement and symbolic killing of god and allll of his epic contributions to modern thinking etc etc, but then it seems like he was always praised for his bigbrain thinking, and then when he met some ladies who weren't so turned on by this, he didn't have the skills to be able to learn how to effectively communicate to those he was attracted to; he lacked the ability to adapt - contrast this to goethe who was... capable in his attractions :P
The real lesson here is that despite the drastic decrease of honest accounts about women from men, we still think the same way. Femininity and womanhood are always at odds with masculinity and men. You will never change that. Edit: I find it silly that anyone dares to act as if Nietzsche's reaction towards rejection is in any way reprehensible. You are absurd. Resentment exists within everyone of us, it manifests and possesses us regardless of whatever goofy beliefs you read on a book. The idea that had he been more "integrated", in the Jungian sense, would have given him a chance at being less petty is even more pathetic than his pettiness. To say that and act as if you could've dealt with that differently shows inexperience, apathy and poor self-awareness. I don't see how any of you could ever be able to provide true forgiveness to someone. It is cringeworthy to see people pretend their beliefs could've "helped" someone else deal with existential pain and angst. It becomes clearer to me why a 2023 psychologist will cringe at "jungians".
You cannot deny the truth, only way out is through confrontation and acceptance of the truth. But it requires you to be humble to yourself. Then you can move forward. Its applicable for any problems in your life. And time also helps sometimes. Wish you all the best.
In other words: Even darkest memory fades when confronted. Denying doesnt solve anything. And sometimes even confronting doesnt make it go away, but you learn to live with it. Thats the point. To learn to live with your shadows.
His philosophy itself is not very emottionally appealing. She probably thought it was splendidly spiteful. The idea of Master/ Slave morality .Men of the sword and men of the plow. She wanted a male feminist. Perhaps a Kantian believer. Rejection can be empowering. Humiliation can be empowering .Its a power dynamic that dabbles in the details.
This is simply getting "Redpilled" and experiencing the world as it is rather than in the ideation of romanticism. Nietzche was a brilliant thinker if only he had taken the same advice he gives, to "will to power". He's smart enough to observe why women go for which type of guy, and then he could of emulate those men. He could have worked on physical power by going to the gym and maxing his looks. He could have worked on financial power by gaining capital, yet he chose neither. Instead, he retrieved to the corner of his mind where he weeps with dissatisfaction and where his shadow grew. But I know him, he is more intelligent than that, maybe he knew that his illness was what limited him from pursuing any will to power. So he focused mainly on his works in solitude in his mind where his shadow grew with him, the ultimate price he had to pay. He was a good friend and a teacher, that I am thankful for. So I leave you with this "There is a false saying, ‘Whoever cannot save himself - how can he save others?’ But if I have the key to your chains, why should your and my lock be the same.” - Nietzche
you proved Nietzche was misogynistic all along. “this was probably just a misunderstanding” to the first rejection is a justification for not accepting a “no” the first time it’s given. i date women. i accept every single no i get and guess what sometimes people do change their minds but if i didn’t respect their no…they wouldn’t! i wouldn’t. i test men and see if they can handle small rejections for this reason. i deserve to say no when i need to even if it’s uncomfortable for others or me. also i would never ask a friend to ask an important question to someone else for me anyways. if i can’t trust them to be compassionate with me asking a question even if it’s rejection then i’m not ready to ask them the question.
So, if one is physically stabbed, you won't tell the victim that they need to 'grow'! Why is it that people demote the damage done by legitimate psychological pain? Well, it's a matter of politics!
I’ve been embracing rejection for the past 15 years. It’s difficult at first then it gets easier. If I want out of the relationship, I find ways to be rejected so that I don’t have to do it. It’s a lazy way and unfair but it also prevents the partner from coming back since it was their decision.
@@toasty862 Ha! Yeah could be that too. But doesn’t discount the feeling of being rejected. Embracing it still prepares you for someone you really like and being ok with it. There’s always another
I've learned that rejection is only as painful as the expectations we have. When we have feelings for someone, but understand that not only are we not entitled to that person, but that rejection is normal, we don't take it personal. It still sucks but you move on soooo much quicker and become stronger. You need little expectations
Thats great insight, though I can imagine it to be difficult to have zero expectations!
And then I exist, where my expectations are nothing and it doesn’t stop the pain :^)
I'm more in pain from my gf discarding me than I was by my wife of 20 years....and it's not that she even took another man because she cannot really have a healthy relationship..it just hurts because she had so much in common with me and she is soooo beautiful and the sex was fucking INSANE....I love you Leslie Latorre..I will be waiting for you forever...
@@JaquelineWildner I felt that
I've learned through my relationships not to project my expectations on a partner or to try to get them to conform to mine (or vice versa). Reciprocity is so important.
“Women seem wicked when you’re unwanted” ~ Jim Morrison
All men are Narcissists
And women are wicked even though you are wanted. Said I. ;)
Awesome comment
Men think with their balls
The issue is that you get rejected 90% of time over things you can't control such looks or hight...etc.
This thing should make men really think about there priorities in Life.
If its 90% out of your hand you should only spend 1% of time thinking about it.
Nietzsche, being a man of bold action, had someone else propose for him
Thank you Todd for sharing your thoughts. That was actually done intentionally to further highlight the paradox of his views. But yeah, you are right, it can appear slightly confusing.
He was just a freaking coward/atheist and so on ......
@@sandramoreno6043 and so on... 🦂
I think that's The way it was done back then, for the most part. also, I have a feeling she did like him, he just moved to soon, and needed to take a better approach. I say she liked him because all of us have a tendency to say the opposite of how we really feel... Nor does it really matter, a major point for myself is to not let rejection cause me to become bitter.. thanks for the Video!!!
we are bold when and where we can afford screwing and losing something
And remember the shadow isn't just evil, it is the unknown.
it's what we've been repressing, for social or other reasons, aspects of our personality that had been subdued, but in crisis or transitions often then aspects take new roles ... i've reorientated some of myself towards my family, expressing new sides, for these reasons
Oh God, I know nothing about my shadow. I don’t even know where to find it or locate it! And I think I have a very good relationship with myself ahah!😂
So is it like when you hear people get married and they're all like yea he's so great omg I'm so lucky, then three years later are like omg he's psycho I've never seen this side of him?
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Yes, that's a good example. Also, in dreams.
This video is excellent! It demonstrates that despite being a brilliant mind, Nietzsche was still a human being, just like the rest of us
Despite his brilliant mind, he let his emotions override his objectivity. It is a human trait that often results in tragic outcomes. The Superior Man would not approve.
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@@MeeCee5204 if she sat on your lap,you'd soon lose your objectivity !if she sat on my lap,I'd have the mental stability of a demented rhinoceros on LSD!
I'm surprised that a man of such intellect would have such a response. It seems like a childish response to rejection, not well balanced and overly emotional.
@@QBRX it seems like an example where ego conquers intellect, which is quite a shame.
The worse she could say is no.
Lou Andreas-Salomé: I could sleep in the very same room as him, without getting any wild ideas.
😂😂😂
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She was mid tbh
In the case of romantic rejection, it is a direct hit to the ego. Whether you presented a persona or were truly vulnerable. Rejection of a persona hurts the identity mask the ego wears out in the world. Rejection of your vulnerable self is probably considerably more painful. Especially if the person you desire chooses someone else, as this causes the ego to force comparisons, it triggers all sorts of childhood wounds. Then the person can project all the anger onto people who share the characteristics of the person who rejected them (in this case women).
Rejection by peers or society is a different type of rejection and is more painful in my view. As it is a rejection by multiple people, whereas with a rejection by a single person could be attributed to their personal tastes and desires. Rejection by society reminds me of the proverb about the child who is not embraced by the village. They will burn it down to feel it’s warmth.
That's great insight. You really have profound knowledge of Carl Jung's concepts. Thank you :)
You opened my eyes,thank you so much....❤.
That's true I'd imagine, linkin park wrote a song about it.
It hits a little bit close to home, but thanks for the insight.
The sad thing is that rejection by peers or family or society is more of injustice than anything else because it's coming from not understanding you nor your needs in a particular time of your life and the most awful thing is that they probably will never "forgive you" (forgiveness by their means of course because they think you're guilty) for who the person are
Not getting what we want in turn becomes us "wanting" the most "undesirable" parts of ourselves. We get rejected then we accept the worst of ourselves, unleash the shadow
I think that for me at least, happiness is kind of somewhat finite and each time someone feels rejected, their happiness glass gets a little smaller, but you can always try to find ways to fill it again.
I ran into this video while browsing self help videos to listen to in between sets on the squat rack. Very insightful, and it gives me pause to make sure I am not consumed by anger or sadness that I have.
Yeah, these pauses and self-reflections are so important and valuable. Glad you found some value in it :)
This Is great!
I had unrequited romantical feelings for someone and opened myself up to her. Looking Back, Us both handled the situation whith grace and interpersonal love making it an eye opening experience:
What i learned Is, that rejection of someone's romantic interest differs greatly from the rejection someone's whole person!
So people i propose to you not to wait:
I Say that It Is better to run flattly against a wall than regretting standing still later, because if it was a person worth opening oneself up and fighting for it may hurt but you won't break any bones
Have a good day! ❤️
That is very nicely said! Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
man o mighty.that sounded like an absolute disaster!
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It was quite turbulent on my feelings If that is what you mean!😂
But i would only call it a desaster if both of us hadn't handled the situation the way we did.
It could have been disastrous, but thanks to both of us it was only as bad as absolutely necessery in such a situation.
@@herrqwertz3567 I'll take that to mean that it was yet another disaster on planet earth amid countless other disasters!planet earth! just one clueless disaster after another! good man!good man!you're hired!no pence an hour.tactical advisor to the greatly disenfranchised and those unlucky in love,life and everything!remember!if you can't be good!be lucky!
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That is very nicely said! Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Great channel, great videos. As a psychologist whose biggest interest is philosophy, this truly hits the spot. One must wonder if Nietzsche was aware of his own hipocrisy. His writings are quite ironic seeing how highly he valued perspectivism.
Thank you, very glad you like this kind of content and appreciate your thoughts :)
so you mean nietzsche is idiot?
He was generally very self-aware too, I guess everyone has blind spots. Although I wouldn't put it past him to be aware on some level but still fall back on projection in some moments
@@Squashmalio Yes. I feel utterly disgust when i have to read the chapters or the mentions of women in the book Thus Spoke Zaratustra
@@luisapaza317 it's interesting to me that men who display disdain for women are shamed but women who do the same for men are celebrated.
Any guy out there with the courage to ask out a woman has felt what Nietzsche felt when Salome rejected him.
There is always that one rejection that will always leave a mark that you will always remember, the rest not so much.
Any man who can handle rejection is better than Nietzsche then!
Recently I was in a gathering and I felt very rejected by my relatives. It was such a horrible feeling and for weeks I felt worthless, I had zero motivation to do anything. I told myself I shouldn't care so much but it didn't work. Unconsciously, I was really harbouring hatred towards everyone.
So Thank you, this video was very much needed to make me aware of what is happening with me.
I'll try to grow personally.
I am so glad, the video was valuable for you. Many of us can probably relate to what you described and hopefully we all grow from these experiences :)
I found a great saying years ago, and I quote it often. "You wouldn't worry so much about what people think about you, if you knew how seldom they did." Some people find this a horrible insult, but I find it quite liberating, and VERY true. We're all caught up in our own little dramas and for the most part aren't noticing every little quirk and details of other people's lives.
That is very nicely said and this mindset would definitely help many to free themselves of unnecessary pain as you mentioned.
@@ferociousgumby Ego is the cause of such feelings. I always tell myself I am important to me not to others, so seldom would anybody think about me but I constantly think about myself. All happens in the moment and passes away like the clouds in the sky. Don't cling on past events, look ahead and see all the opportunities before you to make your dream world.
Most of us have been rejected to a certain extent and this video felt very relatable. Philosophers are often kept on a pedestal as those deep thinkers, always rational who can do no wrong, but despite their great intellect, they were humans just like us, and that lead to wrongdoings. I've read beyond good and evil and at first I thought Nietzsche's misogynistic undertones were part of the general misogyny of his time. I'm studying psychology and I loved the combination of the fields. You gained a new subscriber 😊
Thanks Peggy for your thoughts. Really glad you liked the video and the combination of philosophy and psychology :) Looking forward to hearing your thoughts in future vids
I got rejected by a woman at the begining of 2022 and man it sucked cus i had convinced myself after like 6+ months of thinking and questioning that she did like me and it turns out she had a BF. I was soo shocked and i let it get to me wayyy too much I was so angry for months and started getting into the red pill shit being more and more misogynistic. Was about a year after I had broken up with my ex of 5 years for cheating on me so i think the rejection just added to that pain and anger... I am glad I noticed my changing attitudes and now I think I am getting a lot better and have healthy relationships with women. Introspection and meditation baby!
Love your comment. I can relate to much of what you said.
Hey man, first of all love yourself and harness what you already know is good and beautiful in you. If other people can't recognize that, that's their problem - and you want someone who really wants you anyways. But you gotta love yourself and trust the goodness in you will shine out and attract someone that is drawn to your light.
Redpill and similars are almost pure resentment with a very weak theory behind it (with so many unfundamented assumptions).
Your still stuck in theblue pill. Red Pill isn't misogynistic. That's just more of your BP conditioning about love. You are truly plugged in and are highly emotional. You need to learn how to put yourself first. 6 Mos to find out she had a boyfriend. 6 Mos. Are you kidding me. What were you orbiting all that time. Hey I like you. But you don't know wtf your doing. Check out a guide by a guy called antidump for initial help so you never do this again. And go back to the rp with an openmind for improvement.
We all pretty much go through that as men.
@@ashleyschaefferkia2734I dunno. 80% of divorces are initiated by women, and I simply find most are shallow and narcissistic.
Excellent video. Nietzsche could have benefited from archetypal psychology by realizing he was unconsciously projecting Anima--the divine woman within--onto Salome when he was in love with her. By actively withdrawing his positive Anima projection after she rejected him he could have avoided projecting a negative Anima onto her as a defense mechanism which became a Shadow projection onto all women. It wouldn't make the heartbreak any less but at least it's a positive approach to acknowledging and healing a broken heart without hating himself and the whole world.
I have seen so many men and women make this mistake. Women do it by projecting Animus onto men and falling into the same defense mechanism trap projecting Shadow onto all men. To be clear we're talking heteronormative relationships here. This defense mechanism is a product of the (bruised) ego which must be actively acknowledged and set aside to allow healing.
Pain--social or physical--is the brain's way of teaching us to avoid painful stimuli in the future. To this end the amygdala does an excellent job remembering our most traumatic experiences. It's not there to torture us with PTSD but to teach us to avoid repeating the same mistake. Making conscious what's unconscious is an uncomfortable but ultimately rewarding experience.
I've heard this exact analysis before, but I have never been able to really grasp it.
Do you think you could explain more fully what you mean by "withdrawing the positive Anima"?
I have a lot of residual resentment and anger that I would like to let go of, but I honestly don't know how to do this.
I've long been fascinated by Jungian psychology. There are times when it seems to contain profound wisdom.
However, at other times, certain Jungian proscriptions sound like nothing more than self-contradictory sophistry.
The notion of the shadow for example. If all that we hate is actually contained within our selves, then what value can life possibly have? It seems to paint human life as something quite thoroughly wretched, and not at all worth living.
Obviously, there is some disconnect here between Jung's actual ideas and my understanding of them, but despite my ongoing interest in Jungian theory, I cannot seem to resolve the paradoxes that I find there.
@@ahobimo732 "Withdrawing the positive Anima" projection is simply realizing you're in love with your Anima projection NOT with the individual on whom you're projecting her. Actively withdrawing the projection allows you to see and accept her as a human not a goddess.
I use the adjective "positive" because she is like a goddess in white. Her negative form is like the evil dark goddess which is what Nietzsche began projecting on Salome when she rejected him. Unfortunately he never stopped projecting negative Anima onto her and it turned into an evil projection onto ALL women. Shadow.
The contradiction you experience is due to the fact that individuals are a mix of good and bad, beautiful and ugly, and everything in between. Yourself included. We are human. All dualisms exist inside us. One side of a coin does not exist without the other.
Life is wretched. It is also wonderful. That's just another this/that dualism. The key to life is living with both ie living with the paradox. It's not a mystery to solve. It's a reality to experience.
Remember that the point of Jung's psychology as well as Freud's before him is to make conscious what is unconscious.
or he was butthurt and preferred to stay on target, rather than spray wildly.
@@longlakeshore After all, he did his job as a writer and it's a good thing that he was given the opportunity to present both sides of the anima/animus, which eventually show up within all of us, right?
@@longlakeshore Thank you for this explanation. I'll think on it. Would you be open discussing this further if I have more questions?
I have been battling with my emotions for many years now. I have no problems with rejection itself but with HOW that rejection is handled. particularly the contemporary phenomena called ghosting, it torments and I wish for it to stop.
Yeah, phenomena like ghosting can be really painful.
Rejection is unbearable to me at age 26. I used to take it in stride in my younger years - short of being yelled at by adults - but now I feel battery acid flood my veins and my stomach churn when I receive so much as a sarcastic quip. It's as if all of my previous rejections came back to me in that moment and conspired to attempt to kill me.
Every week that passes my pain grows, and with it, envy and hate mounting like steam in a train engine. There is nowhere for it to go, as this steam is sealed tight behind an ironclad veil of civility, so it melts away my internal landscape, warping it into some abominable shape not meant to be looked upon by mortal eyes lest their viewer become insane.
Yet... I have more love for this twisted creature within than the pedestrian persona without, the shamefully ordinary face I must display to survive in a public sphere that is hostile to my true self. I love the horrible demonic thing within, a macabre work of art forged in the kiln of this cruel society and its repressive ways. After all, how can a jewel be made if not under duress?
This is how I feel, I'm constantly boiling inside wondering why I feel so strongly but at the same time I'm fascinated by the restraint I show on the outside.
When you realize that you’re a parasite and have people like yourself, then maybe you’ll actually feel humble and see the lesson.
@@ayamystic2 Ok, jew
I hope you’re on a watch list 😢
Great comment, I feel the same way sometimes. Don’t listen to the fools in this thread, they don’t have the insight or depth that you have, good luck
Thus, loneliness becomes the best defense mechanism to defend yourself from future rejections.
This is super relatable! Thank you for opening my eyes to see something so obvious, yet has always only been in my peripheries. I'm taking your idea, and I'll be running with it. thumbs up!
Very rich video man, so glad that someone who are lighting the psychological side of the nietzsche thoughts
Yeah, Nietzsche's psychological depth is really fascinating and I am so glad you liked it. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts in future vids :)
rejection can change your perception
It Updates it.
From the University of Virginia "Although Nietzsche has been considered by some critics to be a misogynist for his treatment of woman, women, and the feminine, Frances Nesbitt Oppel offers a radical reinterpretation of the philosopher's ideas on sex, gender, and sexuality. In Nietzsche on Gender: Beyond Man and Woman, she argues that a closer reading of Nietzsche's texts and rhetorical style (especially his use of metaphor and irony), as well as his letters and notes, shows that he was strategically and deliberately dismantling dualistic thinking in general, not only the logical hierarchies of western thought (God/human, heaven/earth, mind/body, reason/emotion, ethos/pathos) but also the assumed gender opposition of man/woman. In the process, she pulls the rug out from under the accusation of his alleged misogyny."
That's an interesting cope.
Seems like a pretty big reach to me, imo some people really would rather make up some elaborate mental gymnastics rather than accept that maybe he was just bitching that he didn't get the girl he wanted, I might be wrong but imo it's a bit extra to go as far as writing all that when it's wayyy more likely he was just butthurt (just think is that more probable or do you really think it was all intentional?) either way it's real common with most artists n philosophers n writers etc... to be overinterpreted years after they're gone, people already have rose colored glasses when it comes to stuff in the past so think of how that could effect their views regarding shit that they never had any part in n which they only know whatever remains centuries later
For the first time, I see a video, this video, that has the real potential to change my life.
Glad you found it valuable :)
Rejection of any kind let it be a partner, job loss or any thing were we place meaning of our life can invoke the “ dark night of the soul “.
Then as person processes his loss he may realise that the feelings he/she had was the projection of his own thoughts and he was oblivious to the reality.
Right on point .Prof C.Jung hit a nerve on this one .
This video is truly underrated
Rejection hurts so much because, she is rejecting your entire being, basically saying your genes should die out and just fade away from existence.
And why is that bad?
@@ayamystic2 preconceived notions from society and biological drives to reproduce
@@ayamystic2 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nietzsche really took the red pill
I bet he had some red pill rage.
These are great videos. Keep it up, as you clearly have a message many of us need to hear!
Thank you Eric, glad the message resonated with you :)
osho: "Nietzsche never attempted to approach another woman for the simple reason that that may again have provoked the feeling of inferiority; once was enough. He was a very egoistic type of man; it is a rare phenomenon. If some woman says, "I am not in love with you," that does not mean that there will not be a woman who will not be able to accept you. And he had qualities of his own; there was no need to be another Wagner. He was not a musician, but he had his own qualities: he was a great philosopher. But he forgot all about his qualities and he started comparing himself only with Wagner. And the insult went so deep.." -
Source - Osho Book "From Personality to Individuality"
A highly thoughtful, sensitive and mature presentation of this theme !
Thank you :)
This is Pure gold , thanks bro 🙏
Thanks, glad you liked it :)
Wow, this video really hit home for me! I've always been fascinated by Nietzsche and Carl Jung, and their insights on the human psyche. It's true that the pain of rejection can really bring out our hidden shadows, but it's also a chance for growth and self-discovery. This video beautifully explains how we can use that pain as a catalyst for personal transformation. Thank you for sharing such a thought-provoking and empowering message!
Glad you liked it :)
Rejection can actually drive one to achievements.
That means I'm going to achieve everything I put my whole heart & mind to.
@Aila Verco Even then, if you let it, then I think any rejection will teach you that the only thing you need to get what you want is yourself. I had a pretty messy and sad one but it still made me introspect and figure out what I really wanted to go after in life.
You can absorb the negative energy and use it as fuel for accomplishing your goals or selfimprovement. But it doesnt change the fact of what happened. The scar remains. But good point.
@@tomasurge6145 I have stored all the negative energy on the bottom of the Pacific Ocean.
Relationships can be the cause of alot of pain. Yes love can cause pain and often does.
The rejection alone is not cause for Nietzsche's bitterness against women, his experience with his mother and sister were very bad as well.
I would also like to add about Lou Salomé, she didn't believe in marriage but later went to marry Friedrich Carl Andreas as a celibate marriage, however when she was 37, she met a young art student Rilke aged 21 and got romantically involved with him while being celibately married to Friedrich Carl.
That's a great insight. Truly his relationship with his mother and sister must have had a crucial impact on his views about women.
So he was right? She was a liar and a hypocrite.
@@karu6111 It seems so
Great video! Please make more videos on Carl Jung's work on 'Shadow'.
Thanks Hari. Very glad you liked it and I will definitely make more videos on Carl Jung's shadow as there is so much left to explore :)
@@lyfeglass Thanks Rico, looking forward to it.
@@lyfeglass yes, please. Thank you...
It's really a magic you covered this topic... I found the wisdom for some questions which really really bothered me. thank you so much subscribed and liked the video!
Wow, I am so glad the video resonated with you and that you found some valuable insights. Thank you for subscribing and I look forward to seeing you around in future vids :)
Heightened awareness of oneself and your own projection. There is more to others than their world revolving around you.
I'm a big fan of Nietzsche he said what even today people don't want to hear
very important topic and very well explained
I can relate to my boy niche in terms of rejection 💀 stings real bad, especially when you know things could have worked out had you acted differently
NO, it would have NEVER worked out. You CANNOT negotiate true desire. She just simply didn't like you enough
very impressive video! Thank you!
Was definitely a great challenge to make it and I am very glad you liked it :)
According to Carl jung, what men do to a woman (especially when it is a first sight love) is to project there Anima to her.
And The anima working as relation factor between our self, ego (or shadow, I can't remember) and reality, so when we get rejected our image about ourselves, ego and real world is destroyed, and we literally shatters to pieces, and we have to pick ourselves up and start all over again.
This Is my interpretation...
Anyway I'm going through a break up(over dumb reason) and I cannot get over it after 5 months, but It's really helped me to learn myself and about the real world... believe it or not.
I do not know why evolution chose to hardwire love and not put it in our control. Apparently it's because people didn't live long so nature took control of the train but it would have been better if it were in our power. Broken homes, overpopulation and rejection would have been a reduced phenomena. But I must sound like a eugenicists... all my reading has taught me one thing I'm fundamentally broken, incomplete in one way or another
@@ea_naseer I've this idea that Judeo-Christian tradition has emphasised on the idea of "Love" as the core value of our life...
And you can see it everywhere in every book, that Love is the solution of everything and we should all aim for it. But no-one knows what they mean by Love !, is romantic Love, is friendship love or is plutionc love !!!, Nobody knows literally.
Nietzsche called love "Virtue of herd" because love trigger something in every one of us, doesn't matter of you had an IQ of 60 or 200, when you hear Love there is something move within you. That's why it's popular as the core value and main virtue that everyone pursue and seek.
I think even our hyper sexualized culture is a result of "Love is our core virtue"...
What if justice, freedom or beauty is our core value and we all should aim for one of these.
@@ea_naseer True, I wish we were in control of it.
I wish you great success with your channel and look forward to learn from you.
Thank you, glad you derived some value and hope to see you around in future vids :)
Is there anyone on this planet who has not been rejected in one form or another?
Hi Rico, you have an plesant speaking voice, easy and calming to listern to, nice presentation on the subject
Thank you Karl for such nice words :) Really encourages me to keep going and produce more videos.
Great content...keep it coming my friend.
Blessings.
Thanks Ben, appreciate your encouraging feedback. It really gives me confidence for future vids :)
Fantastic video!
Thank you David, glad you liked it :)
Girls asking me out back in school sorta broke my brain. I don't even believe in such..wont bother to try. It's too late at 28. It does help to research these things as not to ruminate.
Excellent, thanks
Glad you liked it :)
Such a great video. Thank you.
Thank you Shamik, glad you liked it :)
Thank you 🙏🏼💙
Very glad that you liked it Yasmina :)
Excellent Thank you.
Glad you found it valuable :)
enjoyed the video - thank you
Glad you liked it :)
So, Nietzsche was a "Nice Guy." That makes a lot of sense...
Yeah, it hurts.
Great video man :)
Glad you liked it :)
really great content in these videos, easy to understand and very engaging. Keep it up!
Thank you Sharana for your feedback and encouraging words :)
So glad I found this channel, really interesting content. Keep going! 💪🏻
Glad you liked it and thank you for your encouraging words :)
@@lyfeglass I thought you must have at least 500k so was surprised to see your sub count! You actually kept me engaged the whole time most people annoy me haha. Good work mate
Wow... It's sooo good
Thank you Nikita :)
If he was alive today he'd be killing the TH-cam Red pill community.
That Nietzsche guy lived most of his adult life lonely and miserable but atleast he wrote honestly about his own emotions and thoughts about the world and its inhabitants so we can learn about the weaknesses and errors in our human nature.
Yes, there is definitely a lot to learn from Nietzsche's brilliant works!
he is actually one of the most brilliant people to ever live so please dont call him that guy.
@@sethhillyer4443 ofcourse he was a brilliant individual but I don't know him personally neither do you so What's your problem with me referring to him as that guy?
It was probably "the way" she rejected him.
Shadow=Ego
Unconscious
Outstanding content. I am a fan of Joe Dispenza. Have you presented some of his work?.. Interesting, I was hoping to hear that person to present his own?. Thank you for sharing.
Hey Yuna, glad you liked the video and thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts :). While I have heard of Joe Dispenza, I am only roughly aware of his works.
Men, you may feel rejected. You may think it's the worst thing in the world, and it certainly feels terrible, I've been there; but...
Once you've seen what some women can do to the men they "love", you'll almost be grateful that you haven't been ensnared in a parasitic relationship of fetishized betrayal and existential torture.
I can relate
Great work
Thanks Emil :) Glad you liked it.
Excellent
Thank you :)
Not to be offensive, but what sort of accent do you have? I can't place it somehow. I kept thinking Irish or Scottish. Then I thought, maybe East European? It's charming, by the way, and adds colour to your narration.
No offense taken at all :). And I totally understand your question as my accent is learned through regular school in Germany, some short stays in the UK, and mainly by watching a lot of movies and videos :). I remember watching movies or just regular youtube videos and as a new word came up that I didn't know yet, I would often stop, look it up and then mumble it to myself to learn the pronunciation. Actually, I still do that nowadays :)
AI accent
But I understand & sympathize with him,for it must have been very painful .
this shows the difference between thought and practice
Or Talk and action
I’m sure your thoughts are as profound as his and u definitely practice the whole of those thoughts.
Wow this was a very informative video! Where did you learn all this and how long do these videos take you?!? I like your animation style aswell.
Thanks for your video. You have a very good, deep voice that makes me wanna listen to you. That is nice.
Glad you liked the video :) I actually watched countless tutorials here on youtube to edit videos. Making the videos does take me quite some time as I am still relatively slow and new to this. I think currently it's around two to three weeks per video.
Thank you Mir for those nice words. Looking forward to seeing you around in future vids :)
Both 'love' and 'hate' are quite natural mate!
Great channel love your video! Keep it up! Do yo have a ‘reading book list’?
Thank you, appreciate your warm words of encouragement :). I don't have a reading list currently, but I may create one in the future as this is a great idea. For now, I can direct you to the sources of the video which are shown at the end, and let me know if there is something specific you are looking for :)
@@lyfeglass I would be looking forward to it! Maybe some books about human nature you would recommend.
@@RM-pn8wy Great, I will definitely keep that in mind when I create a reading list. Spontaneously, I can really recommend the book "Behave" by Robert Sapolsky. It's a great read on human behavior through the lens of biology and neuropsychology :)
My mensch got uber hurt by the great denied.
For me being rejected is like losing to a game, I just try again or mostly just play another game I can win and sometimes I just hack the game and win.
When I was working in marketing and sales the first thing I learned is that rejection is the first step to all deals. You have to turn a no into a yes.
If a girl rejects you that does not mean game over, that only means you have to try harder, impresse the girl. You either play a fair game and understand what does the girl see as impressive of you can go and understand what drives women to accept a man and hack your way through. Also try the other pizzas, one pizza is no pizza at all.
Dude, no means no.
When a woman rejects you please just move on
@@clare_jordin Perseverance is key to success! But you must be worth it! I only fight for the best of the best. I don't waste my time with average. And to this day I always get the number one.
@@3DVizzion I understand what you saying. It’s up to you if you’re going to waste more time and energy on someone after being rejected. It’s almost never worth it but it can still be done
@@MB-ce7ue Myself I have never been rejected anyways for the women I chose to date. But I must say I always make sure that the girl likes me too before I court her.
But I have seen guys who succeeded on having girls way out of their class or league far too hot for them by just keep on knocking.
But if you want a girl it is good goal and working on yourself to get a chance is even better for you as even if you do not get the girl you have improved yourself for better than.
She dont deserve nietzche she was just a common women and nietzche was beyond common
It's not a projection of 'the shadow' to be resentful after a rejection. Women are highly selective and often cruel. They do this on a regular basis, yet still tend to love their brothers, sons, and CHOSEN partners. I emphasize the word CHOSEN, because it is the women who choose. Nietzsche wasn't projecting anything. Resentment often brings up different, yet no less logical perspectives on things and people. Sometimes, the perspective could be even more logical, or even 'true'. You have to ask yourself, if a man's mood can rely so much upon the acceptance or rejection of a woman, then who is the more powerful sex? But does said feminine power rely at all upon intellectual work or achievement? Not really.
Ehh who is the more power sex? Its pretty much all the women who would accept the same top 5% of men so... If you think about it
@@mangopuddingdancetime5980 a very interesting perspective, indeed. I would insert that nature is unfair, scarcity is rampant, and that almost everyone enters the grave under-developed, in some way or other, based on others or their own perception. I just think the fact that women are the gatekeepers of sex and reproduction indicates that they choose and reject more frequently. I myself, as a man, know that this isn't a universal. I've rejected women too, but much less often.
@@FuckEntropy Throughout all of history women have always reproduced at much higher rates than men. Women are the choosers, men hope to be chosen. That's just Nature. The problem is women vote to nurture this problem even worse by voting for sexual authority without sexual responsibility for themselves with putting sexual responsibility onto the the men they rejected who have less sexual authority.
@Aila Verco Well not exactly, seldom will you find a man openly rejecting a woman in a romantic context. Men, however, can be treated like less than human without a second thought. It's just an unfortunate dichotomy by which we've evolved. I think it's best to acknowledge this fact and be better towards each other.
@@dwellinginshadows whilst it is true that most men do not reject women in a sexual context, that is not to say that it is the same in the romantic context. and think about it for a second. if your primary biological goal was to reproduce and you could do that only a few times (quite contrary to the male species where there is no limit), wouldn't you be choosy too? wouldn't you want to make sure that your offspring get the best possible genes?
tbh I think nietzsche's biggest problem was his arrogance - sure, super smart, good for general philosophy advancement and symbolic killing of god and allll of his epic contributions to modern thinking etc etc, but then it seems like he was always praised for his bigbrain thinking, and then when he met some ladies who weren't so turned on by this, he didn't have the skills to be able to learn how to effectively communicate to those he was attracted to; he lacked the ability to adapt - contrast this to goethe who was... capable in his attractions :P
The real lesson here is that despite the drastic decrease of honest accounts about women from men, we still think the same way. Femininity and womanhood are always at odds with masculinity and men. You will never change that.
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I find it silly that anyone dares to act as if Nietzsche's reaction towards rejection is in any way reprehensible. You are absurd. Resentment exists within everyone of us, it manifests and possesses us regardless of whatever goofy beliefs you read on a book. The idea that had he been more "integrated", in the Jungian sense, would have given him a chance at being less petty is even more pathetic than his pettiness. To say that and act as if you could've dealt with that differently shows inexperience, apathy and poor self-awareness.
I don't see how any of you could ever be able to provide true forgiveness to someone. It is cringeworthy to see people pretend their beliefs could've "helped" someone else deal with existential pain and angst. It becomes clearer to me why a 2023 psychologist will cringe at "jungians".
Nietzsche needed to watch a Patrice O’Neal video
I enjoy your videos and how you break it all down. Cark Jung was very interesting. I hope you post more psychiatry videos.
Glad you like it :) and yeah Carl Jung is fascinating!
You cannot deny the truth, only way out is through confrontation and acceptance of the truth. But it requires you to be humble to yourself. Then you can move forward. Its applicable for any problems in your life. And time also helps sometimes. Wish you all the best.
In other words: Even darkest memory fades when confronted. Denying doesnt solve anything. And sometimes even confronting doesnt make it go away, but you learn to live with it. Thats the point. To learn to live with your shadows.
Neitzche got Redpilled
Nietzsche was a G. Periodt. I love him so much: he was an Übermensch. 🦄💚💜💙✌🏳🌈☮👗😘🧿
In that case, 'love', like 'hatred', is also a projection! Rather, both are natural!
Sexist? Do you mean have a good understanding of female nature?
Honestly being rejected is better than being cheated on later. I think.
its' good stuff.
Brilliant ! 👏👏👏Subscribed. ✅
Thank you :), so glad you liked it!
Been there, done that.
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His philosophy itself is not very emottionally appealing. She probably thought it was splendidly spiteful. The idea of Master/ Slave morality .Men of the sword and men of the plow. She wanted a male feminist. Perhaps a Kantian believer. Rejection can be empowering. Humiliation can be empowering .Its a power dynamic that dabbles in the details.
This is simply getting "Redpilled" and experiencing the world as it is rather than in the ideation of romanticism. Nietzche was a brilliant thinker if only he had taken the same advice he gives, to "will to power". He's smart enough to observe why women go for which type of guy, and then he could of emulate those men. He could have worked on physical power by going to the gym and maxing his looks. He could have worked on financial power by gaining capital, yet he chose neither. Instead, he retrieved to the corner of his mind where he weeps with dissatisfaction and where his shadow grew. But I know him, he is more intelligent than that, maybe he knew that his illness was what limited him from pursuing any will to power. So he focused mainly on his works in solitude in his mind where his shadow grew with him, the ultimate price he had to pay. He was a good friend and a teacher, that I am thankful for. So I leave you with this "There is a false saying, ‘Whoever cannot save himself - how can he save others?’ But if I have the key to your chains, why should your and my lock be the same.” - Nietzche
I really like that last saying of yours! "...But if I have the key to your chains, why should your and my lock be the same". Thank you!
Rejections could go both ways. Every man or woman gets Rejections that is fact of life. Just move on!
That’s a feminine doctrine.
Since Jung is considered one of founders of AA --> go to just about any 12 step meeting - it's free!
you proved Nietzche was misogynistic all along. “this was probably just a misunderstanding” to the first rejection is a justification for not accepting a “no” the first time it’s given. i date women. i accept every single no i get and guess what sometimes people do change their minds but if i didn’t respect their no…they wouldn’t! i wouldn’t. i test men and see if they can handle small rejections for this reason. i deserve to say no when i need to even if it’s uncomfortable for others or me.
also i would never ask a friend to ask an important question to someone else for me anyways. if i can’t trust them to be compassionate with me asking a question even if it’s rejection then i’m not ready to ask them the question.
So, if one is physically stabbed, you won't tell the victim that they need to 'grow'! Why is it that people demote the damage done by legitimate psychological pain? Well, it's a matter of politics!
I’ve been embracing rejection for the past 15 years. It’s difficult at first then it gets easier. If I want out of the relationship, I find ways to be rejected so that I don’t have to do it. It’s a lazy way and unfair but it also prevents the partner from coming back since it was their decision.
Sounds like self sabotage to me.
@@toasty862 Ha! Yeah could be that too. But doesn’t discount the feeling of being rejected. Embracing it still prepares you for someone you really like and being ok with it. There’s always another