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Dwarf Fortress - Quick Tutorials - Papermaking and Libraries.
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Something which might be confusing in your video on scrolls is that you can make them without a quire or book binding first in the process (and they don't need thread). Once you're pressed into a paper sheet, you just make rock scroll rollers then Make Scroll. i always thought this was a little less confusing than Codexes to make
Agreed. I've been doing my libraries with scrolls, its just simpler. I've also heard there are some bugs with Codexes, though I can't recall off the top of my head "what" those are so maybe that isn't accurate anymore. I do love watching my libraries grow and the often zany things that get written and created.
@@JadedEvild0ersorry for the usage of confusing words, im a new player, but i've heard of one bug where, after the whole process of book binding, the price of the book ends up lower than the price of the writing used to compile it. maybe thats the one
Ima just do scrolls cause this dude sounded so overwhelmed with all of it lol
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Here's an interesting fact with scroll-making: in Ancient Roman times, this was the only way to make a "book". Here was why: the Ancient Romans didn't use true paper; they used a paper-like substance called papyrus, which was made from the papyrus plant -- which is a type of bulrush that grows in Egypt in the Nile River. To make papyrus sheets, craftsmen would cut through part of the hollow stem of this bulrush; and would hammer the stem flat. The resulting sheet, while it resembled paper in that it could be written on, could not be folded without breaking it. The whole papyrus industry collapsed along with the Western Roman Empire; and because papyrus was no longer being traded throughout Europe, the Europeans had to come up with a different writing material, which was parchment. Parchment was made from sheep skin; and unlike papyrus, parchment can be creased without breaking. This means that, like true paper, parchment can be made into actual books. However, unlike paper, parchment is labor-intensive to make; and it was therefore always much more expensive than papyrus or paper.
True paper is basically made by mashing plant fibers (ironically, the fibers of papyrus rushes can be used in this process!), mixing these with water, and putting it on a special drying sheet. Once this material is dried you have paper! The mixture of water and mashed plant fibers is called pulp, by the way. A time-traveler could put the entire European parchment-making industry to a halt overnight by simply demonstrating in a town square the process of mashing plant fibers in a mortar and pestle, mixing the mash with water, and then spreading the pulp across a metal mesh and then allowing the pulp to dry. So, all that's needed to end the parchment industry are any type of high-fiber plant such as cotton, a mortar and pestle, and a metal mesh!
One thing you didn't mention but is very important is that binding books is actually completely bugged. Once the quire is bound into a book it destroys all the values the quire had and will list it as being a "one page manual" no matter what, and make it worth far less. It's been that way since at least 2015 unfortunately and never got fixed.
I think Dabu & Simon Swerwer need to do a Library centric tune for DF. I always imagine something like a DF-esque adaptation of Julian Smith's "I'm Reading a Book"
There aren't many youtubers who can provide such a detailed explanation in such a small amount of time. Thank you!
If you want to focus on a library early on, I suggest embarking with at least one dwarf with the writer skill. Also, I will set my worldgen for 250 years, but stop after I see 3 books appear in the history, which is usually around year 150-160. The formula seems to involve the age of the world, and 100 years isn't enough, even if you have scholars with writer skills and paper; after 3 books are written in the worldgen, I usually have an easier time getting them to write. Also, having around 4 scholars and at least 20 tables seems to help (in the library, but also plenty more in a dining hall). The tables are because dwarves will look for an empty table in the library when they want to write, and if all the tables are occupied, they seem to give up on writing. And four scholars is because it takes a while for each individual dwarf to write, so if you want 2-3 books in the first year, you should only start your library when you can afford to devote several dwarves to scholarship. Oh, and I generally have 50 quires at that point, because like tables, having more than too many seems to up the chances of them writing. Like I said, 50 quires, 4 scholars 20-30 tables and chairs, and starting after 3 books (entries are purple in worldgen, for easy reference) appear in world generation, and I have no problem getting a few books per year. Of course, adding more of each of these factors increases your chances of success, with the exception of the age of the world- there is a sweet spot there. Too old, and your dwarves won't write their own books, because someone else already wrote on the subject. That might be fine if you would rather collect and trade for books rather than author them, but if you want to have your dwarves be the ones writing the majority of the world's books, then what I describe seems to work best.
What you mentioned about one-page books is actually a bug mentioned by @Greatot
Once dwarf writes on a quire, bookbinder will bind it into a book. Sadly it looses most material properties during process, including length.
This is why it's currently better to use scrolls.
Thank you for this tutorail. Came at the perfect time :D
I started a fort in year 5 of my world history, got ready to make a huge library, but none of my dwarves want to actually write... I feel like the age of the world and the existence of other books plays a big part in writing books too, since in my other fort in year 250+, they ARE doing nothing but write. i am really curious what actually makes dwarves write books in the code! great video :D
maybe its because less events have happened in the world due to its young age? that's my guess
Dwarves bring certain knowledge. The starting 7 dwarves bring no knowledge I believe. Migrants do bring knowledge. They can only write book if they have knowledge and previous experiences in the world. So they just have little to write about I guess.
It seems to be the case that worldgen has a sweet spot: too young, and they won't write, but also too old and they don't either. I played around with it using the same setup, and for me, around 150-160 seems to be the range, although I just go until I see purple entries in world history three times (purple in history is specifically book artifacts being created). It just worked out that after several tries, that range of years was often when three books were produced. If you do that, the dwarves have enough history and such to write about, but the world is not so old that every subject has already been written about. Also if you let the worldgen run for 500 years, you will notice most of the books are written between years 150-275. So again, there definitely seems to be a sweet spot in terms of range of years, and I have had the most success when focusing on libraries when I begin the world after 3 books appear in the history, when I have 50 quires prepared, setup up 20-30 tables and chairs, and can devote at least 4 dwarves to being scholars (preferably with the writer skill).
Thank you for the graph, ik it's on the wiki but still, it's nice it's mentioned and shown in the video
For the algorithm
Thanks Blind for another great quick tutorial!
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Nice clear tutorial!
I think it would have been better to show the whole process in one fort and also showing all the the different methods instead of ‘hey there is a picture from the wiki’
I already knew how to do paper and I’m sure this is helpful for those who don’t but from a explanation standpoint this is felt a bit lazy to me. I mean no offence just a constructive critique
Great, thanks!
Haven't bothered with this feature at all yet. I did claim some books from visitors who where executed by my soldiers though.
❤ A dwarven mega library fort sounds nice.
7:30 Any functional difference between Books and Scrolls? Judging by your flowchart, Scrolls are *far* easier to make.
how did i know it would b this guy lol
Books!! Books for everyone!
You should have mentioned that the likelyhood of writing a book is highly dependent on their interest and linguistic ability. Low ability means less books
What are the general titles or the name for this forts videos? Looks like a cool one to sit through the vods for!
My dwarfs leave books and scrolls around the fort forever. Wish they would cleanup
Thanks. This was the 3rd video on this topic that I watched. This one finally helped me understand the process. Thanks.
What's the difference between a book and a scroll?
library
"In -rope reeds pot... This is a stack of 4 rope reed. It is coated with water" - Does it mean that this stack is rotten? I have 162 rope reeds in Stocks, but I am not able to make a slurry from plunts.
No it just means it has water on them. As in there getting rained on or something with water on it walked past it.
@@BlindiRL But the order of making slurry from plants is still impossible: "Requires unrotten paper-slurryable plants" in red color. Rope reed is paper-slurryable.
Have a weird bug that my dwarves can’t make anything out of cloth because it says there is non. Except that I have around 200 cloth, all in bins in my main stockpile. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
Do bins bug out a lot?
Don't use bins and use specialized stockpiles. Its not really a bug its just how they are coded.
Damn this guy is loud...good tutorial though
I had a weird bug(?) where windmills produce no power.
Means you settled somewhere with no wind. Not a bug.
@@BlindiRL Did I miss something on the embark screen or world map?
So do you need multiple pages for a book? or can you make 1 piece of paper, quire, they write stuff, bind book? Just wondering if books need 'x' amount of pages before they can be made otherwise is it just a scroll?
1 quire is enough for 1 book plus 1 book binder if you want it to turn into a codex.
more tuts please.
Super solid toot!
But you never explained what's the purpose of libraries?!?!?
It functions as a meetingplace so it produces happy thoughts. Just like how temples dont serve an actual purpose (like producing stuff).
Visitors can come because they heard you've got a fine library.
This attracts scholars or book lovers. Once I had a dragon attack and one visitor sniped it with their crossbow, _from the library fortifications_.
@@DonChups hahaha sniper visitor from a battle library 🤣🤣🤣 this is only possible in the DF hahaha
It can also change the ideologies of dwarfs and the sites civilization(according to the wiki)
All of my dwarves used the libraries to put chickens and food. HOW YOU DO IT?????!!!!!!!!
What do you mean I have to actually learn how to make paper to make paper. 😂
message for the algorythm
lol, ZED?!?!?!
> lol, ZED?!?!?!
Oh my god he just used the CA/UK way of saying Z! Let's laugh at it because my way of saying it should be the only way!
Couldn't really follow the tutorial you speaking and moving too fast :X