Secret of Stick Welding Rod! 99% of TIG welders don't know about this
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
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When TIG welding the root of a stainless steel pipe, it is necessary to work after injecting purge gas into the pipe.
If TIG welding is performed without purge gas, oxidized flowers will bloom inside the pipe.
This is because the welding part is oxidized when it comes in contact with oxygen.
However, stick welding is possible without shielding gas.
This is because the coating of the welding rod serves to protect the welding area.
What will happen if this principle is applied to stainless pipe TIG welding?
Today we will briefly introduce this topic.
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Please, don't try this at work.
Because your job is precious.
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Been a welder for over 40 years ,watched this video with scepticism, however brilliant results saves on argon backing !!! Going to have a dabble at that ,Thank you for taking the time to share this stay safe and just remember welders hold the world together !!! All the best Jeff sherwin Nottingham England
Is it really or did something get lost in translation?
The problem is, if you are welding pipeline, you can't have crud on the back of the weld because you simply can't just reach around and clean it. So this practice wouldn't be to code. You still must argon purge.
I'm an professional welder and actually, I know that you can weld stick with tig, but, problem is with the slag and removing the same if the pipe is long and closed, specially for sensitive pipe installations where you needs to have clean inside environment of the pipe, it will be okay if you fabricate the pipe outside the system and clean it before installment. The best way is to use solar flux, it is kind of expensive but compared with the damage that slag can make in those systems its nothing.
Other thing, Your "root" doesn't looks like proper one, it is too wide and big compared to the sample pipe thickness that you using in the video.
No hard feelings lol, anyway it is good video and most of the people doesn't know about it. Thumb UP
I second that.....35 years as TIG welder.
It depends on the process. Welding slag isn't a big deal in most types of closed systems. That is why arc welding is still so prevalent. It just doesn't make sense wasting time Tig welding the types of systems where slag isn't a concern.
True yes. But! A seasoned welder can make a silk purse out of a sows ear and nobody would know any different. I use backing quench bars and straps . They are much more effective that backing gas has alone . I love solar fluxes for areas I can’t get behind tho
@@trollbane66 100% true
@@danobryant7740 Could you elaborate on: "quench bars and strap", thank you.
Watched a workmate do a similar thing with some really heavy duty iron powder rods years ago. It was a repair on the blade arm of a bulldozer and the steel had been torn away leaving quite a large ugly hole. He heated and reshaped it as best as possible and then stick welded one rod while feeding the other rod in like a stick of solder to fill the hole. It was amazing to see, and then he plated over the break to finish off. It never broke again.
I always heard that technique being called "Texas Tig" welding. Stick welding with an extra filler rod.
Its always nice to watch a True Badass Work 👌🏻💯
@@donwold1622 do I need more amps for that ?
I am form Bangladesh 🇧🇩 you intelligen TIG Master 💝🙏no purge but, penetration 100%.I watch you every video.waiting for next video
We have a powdered flux called Solar B Flux for this purpose. A paste of it in alcohol is brushed on the opposite side to be welded. It protects the weld area from chromium oxide scale.
The slag is very thin and hard to chip, unlike SMAW stainless ER308L. Only small amounts flow into the weld puddle, distraction for novice welders. The slag does not obscure the weld puddle and does not change the arc color or intensity.
I still have a lot left over from a project, about 400 grams.
I've used Solar Flux on stainless and it works. I haven't tried it on a joint like this (with a gap) though. Agree about the slag being hard to chip. Very hard!
Keith, yes, the Solar Flux B is great, they also make a Solar Flux A for using on other alloys. Solar Flux was developed by the Solar Aircraft Company in WWII for welding exhaust manifolds [stianless] on Navy Aircraft, it was a National Defense Secret up until the 1960's......pretty cool hun, works great on big open areas that would be hard to back purge.....the alcohol needed is Methanol, you do not want to take the whole can and put the alcohol in, just small amounts you need for your project, otherwise, it hardens in can and is difficult to reuse......cheers from an old fart in Florida, Paul
@@ypaulbrown
Awesome info there! I know the A type is for high nickel alloys. Oddly enough I am using it for stainless steel exhaust systems.
Was going to say the same thing
노퍼지 와이어가 없을때 좋을거 같아요
항상 너무 도움이되는 영상 감사드립니다
They actually make a flux core and a flux coated tigwire That's designed for that you don't have to use a stick rod and it usually turns out a better There's also a product called solar flux that you can mix with alcohol and smear it on the inside doesn't turn out as well but it is effective when you can't use a purge
What metals do they make flux coated tig wire for?
I like this technique.. I'm not a pro, but I'm reasonably good with mig & tig, but crap with mma. Just can't get used to the distance thing... I imagine you still need gas to protect the tungsten..
Looking forward to trying this. Thanks👍
Wow a video to show you how to bust a weld test 20 times in a row. I don't think I've ever seen anyone bust a test that many times in two minutes, thats impressive
WOW! Das sind die Tricks von einem wahren Meister.
Vielen Dank für deine sehr lehrreichen Videos. Das schätze ich sehr.
Привет. Знаю этот трюк, 15 лет назад его использовали на трубопроводе. При проверке и испытаниях результат был очень высокий. Сваривали конечные стыковочные соединения. на нержавеющей стали. предложение было мое, но только после испытания использовали этот метод сварки с электродом. Многие не думают своей головой, а истина всегда где то рядом! Успехов
이런 방법이 있었네요. 좋은 팁 감사합니다.
항상 즐겁게 시청 하고 있습니다
When I have had a situation where you cannot get a traditional backing purge to work I have sealed each of the pipes with a disk of rice paper and stuck it with masking tape. Needs to be far enough away from the joint so it doesn't burn. After tacking the joint together I run a thin copper tube through the weld prep to fill the space with Argon, Then use a heat proof aluminum tape around 3/4 of the outside, weld up the 1/4 where there is no tape, then remove another 1/4 of the aluminum tape and weld that etc etc the closing bit is where the copper purge tube is, pull that out and seal the weld prep up. There is enough Argon in the pipe to provide protection on the inside for the small closing gap. The rice paper on the inside will dissolve when the pipe is filled with water.
But interesting test you have done Hago and always good to try different things
You shouldn't be wearing those type of gloves for welding. Not so much of a problem with TIG welding . But with MIG or stick welding you get a lot of sparks. The spark will burn through the gloves and you get molten polyethylene into your burn wound. I learned this the hard way without being warned.
Gotta be tougher than the average person.
Pain is just weakness leaving one’s body
Lol. Definitely not real. sombody went inside pipe to stick or flux.
a great idea, i never thought about it, i forgot to bring argon while working, you can still tig solder easily, thanks for sharing
Unfortunately too late. From now on I will always weld like this! 🤣
Thanks for teaching me some thing new.
신기하네요 ㅋㅋ
재미있게 잘봤습니다 ㅎㅎ
"Don't do this at work, your work is precious..."
That's a cute way to say, "We get paid by the hour."
Proud to be Union.
這算是刷新認知 .. 我也確實沒有想到銲308白鐵銲條可以直接進入熔池 ...
至少我使用TIG時不會這麼做
滲透的效果也很好.. 日後現場工作有需求我會使用看看
Nice video.
Right, I saw it for the first time. 😂
흥미로운주제네요 잘봤습니다
Sou brasileiro e nunca me aventurei na solda TIG recentemente adquiri uma inversora MMA/Tig Lift/140AT da DEKO e comprei uma tocha seca hoje😅 e tava pensando como que Eu ria comprar o cilindro de argônio e o próprio argônio😅 sem falar no tungstênio😅 E hoje vejo esse vídeo com os meus olhos cheios de esperança Muito obrigado por você reservar um tempo e compartilhar seu conhecimento conosco fico muito feliz❤ ganhou mais um inscrito🎉
항상 보고 베웁니다 저에게 영원한 스승이십니다!!^^
Thank you so much! I have been watching you since I began welding just over a year ago. I've learned so much! You are a huge reason I was able to learn to weld and a huge reason I continue to improve. Thanks so much man seriously.
I was little confuse , so Finally is good to do or not ? Thanks and Cheer from 🇲🇽 México
Esse método de sondagem ficou bem atraente para algumas situações mesmo gostei da dica.
Sensacional.. brilhante ideia! Thanks for sharing! greetings from Brazil! Strong hug, Forte Rocha!
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All and dought good. I'm a 9 year tig welder and I built procedures for military. This maybe good for your back yard inventions but no procedure in history will allow this. These is a proper rod for tig with stainless pipe without purge. We call it a mud rod. And it's tubular and has flux inside. Just a giant flux core wire.
Loved watching this very learnsome vid. The amount of methods are endless as you show us. For hobby-work excellent and new to me. Many thanks Sir for this great vid and sharing your knowledge with us. Very enjoyable subject. Greetz, Marcel Knippers.
Thank you.MASTER.
Can't say I've ever seen that done thanks for sharing 👌🏻
Those welds wouldn't pass an Xray because every time they dip the tungsten in the weld puddle it leaves a bit of the tungsten into it.
Ah, so that is what those flashes were.
Yea, not good.
Due to being TIG welded using a SMAW electrode for filler those welds wouldn't conform to any welding code I'm aware of so they'd never get to X-ray anyway.
Спасибо.очень познавательно..
top welder, I really appreciate your advice. many greetings from Naples (Italy)👋👋
Buena idea,la purga queda perfectamente
This is truly cursed. 10/10
I don't understand the last part. It means this was an hoax and this method does not work? Why the indication not to use it?
Seems flux made resistant variably in arc flow, so welding head shows inconsistency distant arc flow.
This is genius. When I had to do this I crushed the flux off of a stick rod and mixed with methanol then painted inside the pipe. Basically poor man's solar flux. Worked pretty well. Your method would have been eaiser.
새로운 도전에 박수를 보냅니다
최곱니다^^~
and what if you have to weld a pipeline, how will you remove the protective coating? Now you can just hit it off, because it's accessible, but if you want to weld a pipeline, you have to use a shield gas in the pipeline itself to prevent the weld from oxidizing.
Hello 👋 I'm curious because curiosity can be useful but where would you think the application for a large bore stainless pipe for the pipeline industry would be used iv not heard of anything but carbon being used for pipeline applications it wud be way to expensive to use stainless steel for that long of a run slash that much purge gas slash the big of bore sure there are small bore pipeline applications but think of it this way the amount of purge gas you wud need for a good good many miles would be so cost prohibitive they really just wudnt want to do it
@@samrowe2889 just about any chemical plant that uses a cracker/boiler/cooling tower.... for the pipeline they use fresh water from docks and return hot water from all the heat exchangers.
I was the fire-/safetyguard at total energie(used to be total fina), where a cooling water pipeline bursted. We were able to repair that by making a shell with a lot of holes, attached that shell, and plugged all the holes. (after that, the section of the pipeline was hopefully changed, because I wasn't there anymore if they took that decision)
Just turn down the heat walk the cup purge the pipe.
I love to watch you weld HagoJibi !
I have no job, so i'm not worried about being fired for trying this at home. :D This was interesting thanks! I have some stick weld stuff for aluminum that seems like hot garbage as a stick application i may experiment with this. 👌
Este canal è muito top
No need to be sorry I have worked in the pipeline industry where the develop all sorts of crawling machines to obtain a back purge, I woul agree 99% of tig welders , certainty those doing pipelines aren't aware of this! As always great content.
Informação muito boa, vou fazer o mesmo para ver como fica.
Obrigado 👍🏼🇵🇹💪🏼
👏😎👍
Em alguns casos, como este do exemplo é uma ótima dica para que não haja contaminação do cordão de solda na parte interna.
Mas na maioria dos casos usa uma tampa numa das extremidades do tubo, e na outra uma tampa com uma conexão para ligar a mangueira para o gás de purga, que pode ser o mesmo Argônio da TIG.
Este método com eletrodo revestido é mais lento e utiliza mais Corrente, mas é ótima alternativa, para alguns casos! 👍
Em alguns casos, como este do exemplo é uma ótima dica para que não haja contaminação do cordão de solda na parte interna.
Mas na maioria dos casos usa uma tampa numa das extremidades do tubo, e na outra uma tampa com uma conexão para ligar a mangueira para o gás de purga, que pode ser o mesmo Argônio da TIG.
Este método com eletrodo revestido é mais lento e utiliza mais Corrente, mas é ótima alternativa, para alguns casos! 👍
Aí eu não preciso usar gas na tocha
@@fehaugusto3800 si che devi usare argon per la torcia altrimenti non puoi creare l'arco elettrico...
and again, a very nice Weld trick.... ; )
😂😂😂Si interesante pero esta fuera de norma, eres un tipo genial, gracias por compartir, saludos pasala bien!!
Класс...Иногда отбиваю электрод и использую ка присадку,но не так 😊.Нуно попробовать........
Dont do this just use normal stick if you use tig in this way it will ruin your tungsten there is a reason tig electrode has no flux under some cases it can cause the tungsten to react violently
ㅋㅋㅋ 이런 신박한
근데 걍 아크로 때우면 되지않나요 !
딴지걸어 죄송혀유!
An alternative to flux cored TIG wire
Tig용접봉으로 프렉스 코어 용접봉있습니다.
퍼지가 어려운 상황에서 쓰죠
Отлично‼Интересное решение👍
What is the case of spindling Argon gas, when stainless steel welding can be applied directly, instead of spindling it as a contribution? I welded many years of two types of welding for stainless and for carbon steel in stainless always use rod type 316 and in cumun steel 6010, 7018, 7024. In sodadura 7018 from 1/8 to 1/4 work as a welder, harmer and assembly of structures, and get to weld with mixtures of Co2 with Argon in semi-automatic machines. Greetings atte Jesús Gómez torreón coahuila México
Это реально круто,надо будет попробывать.Спасибо тебе мил человек)
Это извращение какое-то 🤣🤣🤣
I hope there will be time to put out a few videos on flux-coated welding wire.
That SMAW wire is flux coated?? No wonders all high quality welds are made in the USA
Works well for aluminum.
Круто! Все гениальное просто! 🤝👍🇷🇺
👍Super Lösung gerade im Freien oder wenn man nicht so sicher im Elektrodeschweissen ist
Lovely idea. Not everyone has a gas flow system. I’ll try (amateur)
This is why we back purge certain materials.
How many welds for pipe are that short in the trade? What if you can't get inside to remove the flux? I like the content of the video. It's akin to doing the same with an oxy-aceylene torch.
How ever, great content & work. Thx for share
Merci GRAND maitre
something I did not know.....fantastic
Would this also work if you were to tig using mig flux core wire? Just curious
Hi ! very interesting! Thank you! Dear Master you use gas when weld with a simple electrode "Kiswel"
So you asked 100 welders to get to the 99% that didn't now.
I found the title too provocative.
Lol been at it 20 years you couldn't hold my hood while I use the restroom
You dip the tip as much as I do, that's why I don't pretend to be a professional.
When we were welding boiler feed pipe we would put a "chill ring" inside at the joint. When you tig welded it, the ring would slightly melt, but keep shielding gas on the outside of the pipe, and no oxidation on the inside. It made for a very nice weld..
오 대박.! 인장강도 테스트 한번 부탁합니다 ~
Its a good tecnic but try to rise the amps to 50 would be better just saying
did you use shielding gas argon for this or not ?
Tungsten inclusions fail x-ray !!!
I have used flux-coated ATIG wire. Very expensive compared to smaw electrodes. Didn’t know you could just use stick wire! Good stuff!
Wygląda to ciekawie, pytanie tylko czy łuk jest wystarczający do zapewnienia czystości wewnątrz spoiny. Tak czy inaczej sprawdzę ten sposób. Dzięki za pomysł ;)
Pierwszy raz widzę taka metodę.
Ja zawsze stał nierdzewna spawam z użyciem "form gazu".
Trzeba będzie zrobić jedna próbę na rentgen.
Very cool! only one problem... I didn't think of it!
Класс. Только кого потом в трубопровод загонять шлак отбивать ? Котов и мышей ?😁
Hello teacher, can teach welding 1mm magnesium alloy sheet and also weld magnesium alloy 10mm thick? Thanks and great video.
This is obviously space magic. Smoke amd mirrors. Just kidding, I drive by your guys school every day and figured in look into it. Seems like you guys have more than capable instructors
This process works very well. Those that didnt know about this that tig weld are going to come after you be ready for the new sayers lmao.
Usta gerçekten bu şaka olmalı. Tungsten tel harici örtülü kaynak elektrot tig kaynağında köpürme yapar. Keyifli bir vide oldu. Türkiyeden selamlar👍🙋🏻♂️
Hola buen video
En tubo SANITARIA tiene el mismo efecto si se suelda con varillas de soldadura revestida ???
lo as probado ???
Cuando un video ???
Por supuesto que no será imposible. Sin embargo, no quiero recomendar su aplicación a la soldadura de tuberías sanitarias en un trabajo real.
emeginiz için çok teşekkür turkiyeden size selam olsun👏🤚
Wow thanks for this tip!
Простите, а не проще тогда выполнить сварку электродом?
파이프 내부를 밀봉할 퍼지 가스가 없으면 이렇게 작업해도 용접성에 문제가 없을까요?
자막과 설명에서 말씀 드렸다시피 실제 업무에 적용하는건 추천하고 싶진 않네요 ㅎㅎ
@@weldHAGOJIBI 답변 감사합니다. 영상 잘 보고 있습니다요ㅎㅎ
I know. Everybody is craving a cheeseburger right now. My sack is really itchy right now too.
영상 감사드립니다. 좋은 정보 얻고 갑니다.
SUPER, as always!!! 🎯
Меняем присадку на электроды)))
이런방법도 있었네...대단 하시네요 !
좋은 영상 감사합니다.
Eu posso aplicar esse método mesmo com eletrodo EWS6013 ?