If I live in the duplex and wish to move into the other unit for one year can this form be served? It says in the form it cannot be served if I have lived in the property in the past or if there are less than 4 units.
us tenants get so run over by abusive landlords..told in May i have until December to get out, Mom and dad are my landlords but i pay to a separate investment account to them, Fighting this all the way
Here's a question that I can't find a clear answer to. After the tenant is served an N12 and the 60 Days Notice is done and the tenant still hasn't moved out but they are then planning to move out thereafter. Does the TT still have the right to give an N9 notice at least 10 days before they plan to move out? Or, since it is passed the initial 60 day notice do the rules change and now they have to wait 30 days. Or does the TT need to provide a notice at all before moving out? Thanks.
If the landlord wants to move in his daughter but it's a multiplex of 9 units, can he still do that? OR because it's more than 3 units is that clause only valid when it's a purchasers N12?
It's so funny. Buying cheap food, cars, or TVs and selling them for 2-10 times the original price is considered a business. But re-renting your house or property for a higher price (except that 4%) than the previous tenant paid is considered Bad Faith. And the reason is so apparent. The government is trying to avoid homeless people but cannot solve the problem with low-income families and individuals, so keep burdens on the Landlords' shoulders. That is definitely not fair. Both sides, tenant and landlord, should be equal before the law. Not mentioning the fact that the landlord actually owns the property. And no bank in Canada would accept an excuse, I cannot pay my mortgage because my tenant did not pay his rent.
Maybe maybe hear me out don't use houses for profits as no one should be allowed to own 2 houses and then housing prices wouldn't be so high and homelessness could be somewhat controlled for the people who are homeless purely because of the housing situations and not drugs
Hope you can help me. I bought my house approx 8.5 years ago and split the house into 2 units. I live in the basement and my tenants live upstairs. The lease has been month to month for about 6 years and I didn't raise the rent. I now want the house to myself, I no longer want to live in a basement, and just want more space for family to visit and stay with me instead of going to a hotel, especially my aging mother. On top of everything, I'm now facing some mobility issues and may eventually need a family member to move in to help me with stuff, although that is a last resort for me. My work is a five minute drive and that will not change. Do I give them the N12 notice or is a different notice optional? Do I really have to give them a cheque for 1 months rent?
I forgot to add, at the beginning of December 2023, I spoke with my tenants and let them know as of May 1 2024 thus giving them plenty of time to find a new place.
I recently rented my mother in law suite to somebody with the intention of purchasing my ex-spouses financial interest in the home. Now, it's not financially possible to purchase my ex spouses interest in the home. I made him aware upon moving in that this may be a possibility, however my hope was to be able to keep the home and to keep him as a tenant. We have now listed the property for sale. There was no tenant agreement signed. The tenant has only resided there for two months. There is monthly cash payment to live there, with him saying he'd be agreeable to leave if the house were to be purchased. Now that the house has listed, he is not being co-operative. This also causes a problem in the attractiveness of the property for sale, as there is a tenant living there. It is to note that I live in one side of the home, and the tenant lives in the mother in law suite, at the same physical address. My ex-wife doesn't reside at either residence and wants the property sold - as do I. What do I do? How do I proceed?
Hi, Thanks for the informative video. My tenant lives there for 4 years and now it is month to month bases. I served N12 2 days ago t my tenant through email. She always paid by email transfer and I live in different city. Is email ok at this case? Also she doesn't answer my email or texts and completely ignoring me. Should I send her the info about my son moving in? Should I wait for her to answer or should I file that L2 right away?
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Tenant is month to month and agreed to move out at end of Month now changed their mind and said can' t find another place as my mom is moving in and is sick., do i give the n12 form or call legal aid
Would it be possible to do something like this if you/your family have no intentions of occupying the unit but you want to get rid of a tenant? Is there wiggle room?
There’s different forms for that. But lots of landlords use it like how you’re describing. You may be found to be acting unethically and could get problems.
@@PropertyHustlers Thank you for your reply to my question! I would be the tenant in this scenario, tbh. I saw your video on autoplay and got chills. I am anticipating a conflict with my landlady and I'm afraid that if I address the issue I am having with her legally, she may find a method to have me removed illegally. Her daughter is a student like me, so I am worried her mother might try this, claiming her daughter needs the space.
@@michelebishop5799 how easy do you think it would be to prove, from the perspective of the evicted tenant? Is there any sort of documentation that would be good to collect, just in case?
@@JD.727 First, don't lie to the Tribunal. If you need help, get legal advice and if not possible, research (read) the case law on those applications. You could start by finding LTB tribunal decisions online, inquire if the Board has resources or duty counsel or any resources available to assist either party.. Find an annotated copy of the Act and look up the section.
Hey Can landlord give notice when N4 is active and does have to pay one month rent when tenant has not paid and default ? Even if L2 has been served , it takes time for resolution and rent will not come at all . At the end it all depends on the tenant than landlord
@@PropertyHustlers if tenant does pay, landlord can serve n4 and l1. Can landlord also serve n12 at same time , so that landlord can take over the property for self occupation , irrespective of tenant pays or not ? And in this case can landlord adjust one month rent against pending rent ( n4 is served)?
The two forms are separate. They have nothing to do with each other. The only thing you need to be concerned about is the “reasoning” for your n12. The n4 doesn’t need to be adjusted. Short answer is YES you can serve both forms. You don’t adjust anything. If your tenant pays rent n4 is cancelled. If they don’t then you attend for n4 after L2. Your n12 will give you a separate hearing date but there are ways to have both forms have the same hearing date but it depends on when they were served. The problem you will face is that an adjudicator will Believe that you were serving the N 12 in that faith because they are not paying rent. Not because you actually want to take over the unit. But if your reason is that you need to take over the unit because you can no longer afford to keep your own unit because that Tenant is no longer paying rent, there is a chance that reasoning could be successful. If that is actually the case. I hope this helps you.
New laws state that if it is proven that a landlord served an N12 in bad faith , they may have to pay one year of rent for tenant who was evicted. 100% of the rent, not just the monthly difference. Ouch
I'm just trying to anticipate and be prepared for this scenario on the tenant side. Hopefully fraud is enough of a deterrent, or at least easy to prove if necessary. Neither my landlady nor I are well versed in Ontario housing law. Thanks! 😊
i have a tenant that just moved in the my basement and she then 4 days later had her son show up late in the night at 2am and then the problems started he started dropping weed on the drive way and the he started jumping over my 6feet gate the he was around 2am banging on the door to the basement unit . then she open up the dryer in the shared space and throw black water and stained my daughter clothing i severed her a N12 cause my sister needed a place and she lost it what do i do next cause she seems to be getting more worst and could damage my property . could i get you contact number
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Let us know how you would use the N12!
Can the Landlord tape N12 on tenants door?? If not allowed, does this make the N12 void??
Very educational ..thank uvfor the video
Glad you found it helpful
How fast does the board process this form typically in 2023? I heard they take 8 months to respond these days.
If I live in the duplex and wish to move into the other unit for one year can this form be served? It says in the form it cannot be served if I have lived in the property in the past or if there are less than 4 units.
us tenants get so run over by abusive landlords..told in May i have until December to get out, Mom and dad are my landlords but i pay to a separate investment account to them, Fighting this all the way
Great video, Thanks😊
Here's a question that I can't find a clear answer to. After the tenant is served an N12 and the 60 Days Notice is done and the tenant still hasn't moved out but they are then planning to move out thereafter. Does the TT still have the right to give an N9 notice at least 10 days before they plan to move out? Or, since it is passed the initial 60 day notice do the rules change and now they have to wait 30 days. Or does the TT need to provide a notice at all before moving out? Thanks.
the N12 is a date the tenant must be gone. if they leave after that date, why would they have to give ANY notice? don't you want them to leave?
@@rationalevidence9095 This is what I thought, but it's not clear.
If the landlord wants to move in his daughter but it's a multiplex of 9 units, can he still do that? OR because it's more than 3 units is that clause only valid when it's a purchasers N12?
My landlord served me N12 form via email and whatsapp, and it doesn't have his signature just name written in signature box. Is it a valid?
It's so funny. Buying cheap food, cars, or TVs and selling them for 2-10 times the original price is considered a business. But re-renting your house or property for a higher price (except that 4%) than the previous tenant paid is considered Bad Faith. And the reason is so apparent. The government is trying to avoid homeless people but cannot solve the problem with low-income families and individuals, so keep burdens on the Landlords' shoulders. That is definitely not fair. Both sides, tenant and landlord, should be equal before the law. Not mentioning the fact that the landlord actually owns the property. And no bank in Canada would accept an excuse, I cannot pay my mortgage because my tenant did not pay his rent.
Maybe maybe hear me out don't use houses for profits as no one should be allowed to own 2 houses and then housing prices wouldn't be so high and homelessness could be somewhat controlled for the people who are homeless purely because of the housing situations and not drugs
Hope you can help me. I bought my house approx 8.5 years ago and split the house into 2 units. I live in the basement and my tenants live upstairs. The lease has been month to month for about 6 years and I didn't raise the rent. I now want the house to myself, I no longer want to live in a basement, and just want more space for family to visit and stay with me instead of going to a hotel, especially my aging mother. On top of everything, I'm now facing some mobility issues and may eventually need a family member to move in to help me with stuff, although that is a last resort for me. My work is a five minute drive and that will not change.
Do I give them the N12 notice or is a different notice optional? Do I really have to give them a cheque for 1 months rent?
I forgot to add, at the beginning of December 2023, I spoke with my tenants and let them know as of May 1 2024 thus giving them plenty of time to find a new place.
Serve an n12 saying you want to take it for yourself. If you need help with this send us an email and one of our property managers can help you.
If the landlord and his family to the home. Which checkbox he should select Me only or Me, My spouse and My Child?
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I recently rented my mother in law suite to somebody with the intention of purchasing my ex-spouses financial interest in the home. Now, it's not financially possible to purchase my ex spouses interest in the home. I made him aware upon moving in that this may be a possibility, however my hope was to be able to keep the home and to keep him as a tenant. We have now listed the property for sale. There was no tenant agreement signed. The tenant has only resided there for two months. There is monthly cash payment to live there, with him saying he'd be agreeable to leave if the house were to be purchased. Now that the house has listed, he is not being co-operative. This also causes a problem in the attractiveness of the property for sale, as there is a tenant living there. It is to note that I live in one side of the home, and the tenant lives in the mother in law suite, at the same physical address. My ex-wife doesn't reside at either residence and wants the property sold - as do I. What do I do? How do I proceed?
Hi, Thanks for the informative video. My tenant lives there for 4 years and now it is month to month bases. I served N12 2 days ago t my tenant through email. She always paid by email transfer and I live in different city. Is email ok at this case? Also she doesn't answer my email or texts and completely ignoring me. Should I send her the info about my son moving in? Should I wait for her to answer or should I file that L2 right away?
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Tenant is month to month and agreed to move out at end of Month now changed their mind and said can' t find another place as my mom is moving in and is sick., do i give the n12 form or call legal aid
Legal aid will tell you to serve an n12. You should have had them sign an n11
Hello, can we block tenant parking and internet after the n12 is served and the yearly lease agreement is expired?
Not if it’s in the lease and part of the tenancy and the tenancy isn’t yet formally terminated.
What happens if the landlord got the address correct and the N12 form but made a mistake on the postal code?
File can be kicked
Would it be possible to do something like this if you/your family have no intentions of occupying the unit but you want to get rid of a tenant? Is there wiggle room?
There’s different forms for that. But lots of landlords use it like how you’re describing. You may be found to be acting unethically and could get problems.
It's actually fraud and contempt of court.
@@PropertyHustlers Thank you for your reply to my question!
I would be the tenant in this scenario, tbh. I saw your video on autoplay and got chills. I am anticipating a conflict with my landlady and I'm afraid that if I address the issue I am having with her legally, she may find a method to have me removed illegally.
Her daughter is a student like me, so I am worried her mother might try this, claiming her daughter needs the space.
@@michelebishop5799 how easy do you think it would be to prove, from the perspective of the evicted tenant? Is there any sort of documentation that would be good to collect, just in case?
@@JD.727 First, don't lie to the Tribunal. If you need help, get legal advice and if not possible, research (read) the case law on those applications. You could start by finding LTB tribunal decisions online, inquire if the Board has resources or duty counsel or any resources available to assist either party.. Find an annotated copy of the Act and look up the section.
I’m in the situation need help
Hey
Can landlord give notice when N4 is active and does have to pay one month rent when tenant has not paid and default ?
Even if L2 has been served , it takes time for resolution and rent will not come at all . At the end it all depends on the tenant than landlord
I’m having trouble understanding your question.
@@PropertyHustlers if tenant does pay, landlord can serve n4 and l1. Can landlord also serve n12 at same time , so that landlord can take over the property for self occupation , irrespective of tenant pays or not ? And in this case can landlord adjust one month rent against pending rent ( n4 is served)?
The two forms are separate. They have nothing to do with each other. The only thing you need to be concerned about is the “reasoning” for your n12. The n4 doesn’t need to be adjusted.
Short answer is YES you can serve both forms. You don’t adjust anything. If your tenant pays rent n4 is cancelled. If they don’t then you attend for n4 after L2.
Your n12 will give you a separate hearing date but there are ways to have both forms have the same hearing date but it depends on when they were served.
The problem you will face is that an adjudicator will Believe that you were serving the N 12 in that faith because they are not paying rent. Not because you actually want to take over the unit.
But if your reason is that you need to take over the unit because you can no longer afford to keep your own unit because that Tenant is no longer paying rent, there is a chance that reasoning could be successful. If that is actually the case.
I hope this helps you.
New laws state that if it is proven that a landlord served an N12 in bad faith , they may have to pay one year of rent for tenant who was evicted. 100% of the rent, not just the monthly difference. Ouch
To JD below, ahhhh, that would be FRAUD.
I'm just trying to anticipate and be prepared for this scenario on the tenant side. Hopefully fraud is enough of a deterrent, or at least easy to prove if necessary. Neither my landlady nor I are well versed in Ontario housing law. Thanks! 😊
i have a tenant that just moved in the my basement and she then 4 days later had her son show up late in the night at 2am and then the problems started he started dropping weed on the drive way and the he started jumping over my 6feet gate the he was around 2am banging on the door to the basement unit . then she open up the dryer in the shared space and throw black water and stained my daughter clothing i severed her a N12 cause my sister needed a place and she lost it what do i do next cause she seems to be getting more worst and could damage my property . could i get you contact number