What Was Hoyoverse Thinking!?... C0 Dehya Showcase, I guess... (Genshin Impact 3.5)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มิ.ย. 2024
- Dehya is finally here... This video covers a massive showcase, optimal Dehya build guide & my thoughts about her.
In this video I cover almost everything you need to know in this Dehya Showcase video - I went through many, MANY different Dehya weapons and artifacts, tested about 9 different Dehya builds, checked how good is Dehya DPS and ultimately - I want to present you this video as one stop solution to decide if Dehya is worth it.
In addition to this, I've tested about 6 different best Dehya teams, examined what Dehya skills can do and even dug deep into how much investment Dehya needs. You'll also see things like popular Dehya + Melt Ganyu team showcased, popular variation of Mono Pyro Dehya, Dehya Burgeon damage going really well using Bloodtainted Greatsword weapon and MORE.
0:00 What you can expect from this video
0:21 Damage Potential & Skills Showcase
4:27 Dehya Showcase, Teams & Builds
9:19 Overall Thoughts, Should You Pull Dehya?
12:34 The actual reason to pull Dehya
Dehya was released during 3.5 Genshin Impact update.
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Man, I like Dehya so much, bit of a bummer it turned out like this... But remember guys - I am not here to tell who to pull for, only from "meta" perspective Dehya is like this - otherwise go have fun with her if you pulled!
Ty for the info at the last 5 seconds of the vid btw, very useful!
Dehya atk speed ? And smash button?lol
I feel your pain 100%. I was so hype when I saw her for the 1st time. I want to pull her so bad cause she a cool looking character but I can't do it she needs a serious buff.
Just an fyi because her burst icd she might work better with rosariA and keaya or just c6 keaya.
Grow a pair and tell people what you really think.
Thanks for not sugar coating her issues, the honest review is much appreciated
Mission passed! Respect +
@@Soplap no, but there are enough people that are still high on copium
I'm not gonna sugarcoat it 👊⚡⚡⚡
@SaRa_S Yeah, those copium levels have already passed dangerous levels.
@@sara_s1737 tf you mean literally every TH-camr rn is insulting her kit lmao everyone knows how bad she is and you can't deny the clear facts. I liked her play style but god damn she seems weak and many negative glitches . Useless
All they had to do was make it so the more damage she takes the more she deals when you take damage in her skill, then have it all be unleashed in her burst, but they left us with this
That’s actually a really good idea. Now I’m even more disappointed they didn’t think of this
Deadass could have made her like Yang’s semblance
i've said that weeks ago when talking with peeps in discord
give her vengeance stacks when taking dmg from passive, stacks give her CR, CDMG (or maybe both?), that would open artifact flexibility a lot, then up her numbers a bit, it was that easy, but nope
@Erik Neon Even if it is, she still wouldn't be that good, and you're pigeon-holed, pretty much to one artifact set if you want to go main DPS. Furthermore, knowing Hoyo, it's probably going to be like a 10% improvement over a pre-existing set like emblem, which in my view means she will still be bad and the set is not worth the grinding and that's basically my view on all the dedicated sets.
@@Blizandrio right because we should pull based on a maybe
I'll never forgive Mihoyo for doing her so dirty. Everything about her is perfect but her kit. Such a gorgeous and great woman completely wasted.
Me and my friend got so mad that we stopped our whaling and become full fledged F2P .... I hate what the kit developers did
Good thing she's not actually real otherwise it would be a problem.
Because at least being a game character you have a small chance to get changes to your kit, but in real life we probably need lot of money.
I wish they would do a Zhongli on her at the very least
@@enashimo That would be so dirty XD. But i thought about the exact same thing right up until i heard she would become part of the standard banner. That was kinda the last nail into the coffin for her
In a way I am kind of thankful for her kit being like this. Really killed my desire to keep playing, which saves me a lot of time going forward and now I don't feel any need to keep doing those damn daily commissions for primogems. It's good to finally be free.
Fun character design. Fun personality. Good integration into the Sumeru story. Dehya had it all, and was the first character since Ganyu that I really wanted... and then this. It's not just that her kit is bad, or not powerful (I thought Kuki and Kokomi were both fine from the very start because they were both really fun to play) it's that her long cooldowns with long downtime in between make her painfully unfun to play.
Such a good character design, animations, personality, could have brought in bank but hoyo got lazy finishing her kit 😭
So it's shit
They've been doing that a lot lately cause they know the simps won't care, as they treat the game like a dang visual novel!
they were halfway counting their racks after nahida's banner and raiden's 2nd rerun when they said "let's stop Dehya right there. perfect"
Not lazy they deliberately made her terrible xd
@@juampisito they made her so diluc players wouldn't feel so bad
Fun fact, she can get frozen during her burst animation. If this happens, it cancels the burst. You can get 1 hit in, get frozen, and lose the rest of her burst. Insane, bonkers, ridiculous. They already lost me when they made her burst be a animation instead of a stance change, but this is genuinely worrying. Did they slap this together in a weekend to see what would happen and ignore all beta feedback?
No, it was worse. First beta week she was just average, but then each week they made it WORSE. It was 100% intentional, thats so sad
Yes just like the other guy posted. For those of us who followed her leaks, and really wanted her we knew from the beginning this shit was bad. She was intentionally NERFED in beta, and they knew from the start how bad she was. It was all on purpose. Now for what reason we may never know, but they 100% knew she was gonna suck and made her this way.
Not only Frozen. Her Burst will be cancelled when she got hit by Hydro Abyss Mage's bubbles (that bubble that can trap you)
And don't forget about jumping cancels her burst.
@@jakeryan2805 I can guess at least 62% of her sucking is due to hoyo, for some god random reason, decided to stick her on the standard banner pool and toned down her power to “match the other standard characters”
WDYM? She's a badass.
BAD: KIT
ASS: DAMAGE
nice one
Bad as hell
Loser ass character
😂😂😂😂
She's a jack of all trades, master of none.
Can tank and self heal, but not really.
Can apply pyro, but not really.
Can burst damage, but not really.
Can apply resistance to interruption, but not really.
She does it all, like shit.
Well yes! But actually no.
more like jack of no trades
@@SiBai- That's a good one!
Jack of all trash, master of Dom mistress.
Noelle is better in all of those, except applying pyro.
Its actually kinda funny because if you look at her constellations, it kinda shows they knew people wanted her. Her C4 fixes her own energy issues by making every burst hit generate energy and heal her.
That should be C1 or C2
@@Varviya Her C1 just gives her a flat 20%hp bonus and another effect. She has a fuckton effects in her constellations, seemingly to make up for her lackluster main kit.
@@axis1247 idk, maybe? she was nerfed before getting to the beta, then a few times (not only once) in beta.
She will eventually get to C4 when people lose 50/50 after 3.5
@@CloudContainer some people will certainly will have her at C4 by chance. I have C5 Jean right now, and she becomes really really good with constellations. Standard banner characters are supposedly to be like this, if you're lucky enough to lose 50/50 on same character over and over, that character will become your main eventually.
I genuinely, GENUINELY hope that Dehya can be more utilized in the future--either through a great artifact set or other support characters. Or just buffing her up in general, honestly. She's a great character and it just sucks that she's underwhelming right now.
Trust me, she won't be there's no new elements to save her. She will be forgotten just like that other dark-skinned claymore user that Hoyovese seems to dislike to the point where they never even fixed her massive bug despite giving everyone a copy in an event!
Hopefully artifacts but if it's characters then that's just worse since you might be forced to pull for a character you don't like just to make dehya good.
I do not have such hope on this simply because of her kit is already bad (the way it works not the design)
Hmmmm no!
dude believe me the character is just fine, being able to heal herself is quite cool, the real catch here is, for wich content i will use this character?.
theres only 3 options, BP, abyss and map exploration, and this come in many ways, i have a lv20 tigniari paired with mona 90, keqing 65 and xianling 70 doing lay lines and i just love how i get fun with that, focus on how you can get fun for every character you have, forget the meta and the crazy numbers theres no way it can make any improvment in your game here because hitting 20K with every character is just fine i have clear the abyss with that, only in pvp gachas exist that not here
The crazy part is that this is dehya at "high investments". Imagine how much damage she does at low investments.
Yup its already been calculated by the math people. Base Dehya does less damage than all 4 stars. She has lower scaling than all claymore users as well. C6 dehya with hundreds of dollars spend is barely at c0 Hutao. Still slightly worse. Its insane, and possible criminal they made her this bad ;p
@@jakeryan2805 the worst crime is that no matter how much we complain, they dont have to fix her because she is a standard character
I actually quite like the tank aspect of her skill. It just really sucks that the pyro application is slow and it's got that dumb Albedo style proc. She could have been a good support if they just made the skill a normal AoE that went a off a bit faster.
@@BrandonHeat243 Except she stinks at tanking they couldn't even be bothered to let her hyper armor knockback resistance last the whole skill duration! Its only 9 seconds like wtf?!! Everything is broken or doesn't synergize or make sense with her kit.
@@jakeryan2805 Agree I hate how low base talent% compare for all 5 star claymore she very low like she made for 4 star but change to 5 star without change or arrange base talent%
Dehya was the one Sumeru character I wanted to pull from the moment she first showed up. I'm so disappointed that I'm now second-guessing on whether I should pull her. I normally don't care about meta, but I'm worried that I'll end up benching her after a while when I start having to pull out other characters to more quickly beat domains.
She wasn't the only Sumeru character I wanted to pull for (Al Haitham was my other) but otherwise I'm in the same boat. I don't want invest all the mats and such if I won't end up ever using her
@CreatingPulsars Sounds like my Noelle when Itto came out 💀.
@@creatingpulsars9979 I wanted dehya and alhaitham as well. and I decided to skip alhaitham for her. man do I feel like a real dumbass right now. here’s hoping he gets a rerun in not too long 😔
@XanderKai Eula screaming in the back after 1 year+ of no rerun *"Oh no, you don't! Vengeance will be mine!"*
Same for me. Pulled for her because she'll move to standard and I'd rather regret pulling her than regret not pulling her. Once she moves to standard it could take thousands of wishes to get her c0, I'm pretty much gonna bench her after testing her today and im deeply disappointed, but other characters were also shit before new artifacts/characters released so im still a bit hopeful. So it depends on how much you like her, for me i've never wanted a characters this badly before so I went for it, but if you judge characters based on strength more than yeah save your wishes.
Truly one of the characters of all time
Not even.
Yes even
@@sharique825 lol U got me there
Dehya is definitely a character
@@alicedodobirb2808 definitely one of the characters of all time
My only issue with dehya is she's called the flame mane and has no flames in her mane
Energy in hair is a archon privilege but it would have been dope. Even though she's really cool already and need more a buff than anything
When i first heard the "Flame mane", my first thought was that the origin of the name is from when Dehya accidentally set her hair on fire
Dehya should've healed her party members per hit during her burst and her skill resistance should've lasted for the whole duration. It would make her so much better in terms of supporting
But then she would still be bad. If u need a pyro healer bennet would be better, his burst alteady can heal your entire party pretty fast AND gives tahr hude AD bonus. I think it would be best if she was a shielder and did more damage the more her shield takes damage. But the she would still have to compete with thoma in that regard.
@Lucas Franzoni Bennett's healing is locked in a tiny circle. Plus, we need more pyro healers we can't just have Bennett.
Imagine if dehya could mitigate damage, give 100% resistance and heal all at once, she'd be like a healer and shielder combined
Ahaha.i think you're also thinking of another character from another game.but yeah.that would have been nice to have on her kit
yep dehya should have been a 5 star bennet
make Dehya skill use hp% like yelan and that will end all problem
Poor dehya she was the 1st sumeru character i was kinda hyped for cause of her character design ( nahida goes second cause archon ofcourse ) now i aint even pulling her ass and oh man i hope i get mona before her when she goes on standard 💀
I would take even qiqi over her when i loose my 50/50
Same 💀
Yup. When all the characters leaked, I was most excited for her along with Cyno. But we've known Cyno for a long time. Cyno turned out to be pretty good but nothing meta-defining or anything. Still have fun playing him and he does decent damage.
Dehya, on the other hand...just a sad state of affairs.
I actually appreciate you reminding people to not harass Dehya users in co-op, I forgot people play co-op sometimes and there's no reason to harass anyone who uses any character.
Why? Why should people let a shitty character which gives liabilities to the team?
@@vandergrift5557 maybe you're the one who needs a bit of harrassing
@@vandergrift5557 Because even the Mondstadt's beginner trio can clear all the content of the game, so if someone wants to use a certain character which they love and have invested as much as they can who the heck are you to forbid them of using them??
@@ALEXMARTINEZ-dz7so you should play solo mode instead of co op if you came to help domains with dehya lol now go throw a tantrum
@@diyakolatif9895 lol unlike you useless turds I help people in co op, get out of their world and have a great day. I don't have time to show off my shitty character in a game where people needs me to do something than my character twerking
The problem is that Hoyo made her incomplete, and she only feels like a complete character (= C0 limited 5star) when she gets all her constellations… Only after getting all her constellations does her cooldowns and scalings etc make more sense. It’s like they want to make us keep playing for like 7 more years so we get to her C6 by losing so many pities.
This is the problem that a lot of players are ignoring, hutao becoming amazing at c1, Raiden becoming amazing at c2, players will just say, well just pull for more copies, but what happens when one day genshin locks the best effect behind c6, it's so predatory to lock character skills and effects behind more paywall after getting the character, like when other games do that, at the very least they introduce something such as a general purpose constellation so that players can eventually unlock the skills or effects through grinding, but it seems up till now genshin does not have the intent to introduce stuff such as that, 2 years into the game.
@@dinochan3560 Hu tao doesnt become amazing at c1, she's amazing at c0 too, she's just easier to use at c1. Same for Raiden, those are already very strong characters at c0 and your average f2p player has no reason to get more constellations for like 20% damage. Dehya however is worse than a 4 star at c0, and she cam compete with other c0 5 stars only when she hits her c6. It's a very different situations, and maybe they're testing the waters to see if they can get away with it and, as you said, start implement 5 stars that need c6 to be viable.
For now it seems only Dehya fans are concerned and expressing their issues with Hoyo rn, but all players should start spamming Hoyo since if they see that people can ignore these things they will surely not stop at Dehya and keep this practice, so its not a problem for just Dehya fans but for the future of Genshin characters too
@@miuletzmitzu6641 hutao gets a massive boost at C1 bc no amount of skill will give you more CAs per rotation, Raiden basically doubles her output at C2, giving her insane offensive power
I think the takeaway to be made is not that they're con-locking characters (bc both Hutao and Raiden function very well at C0), they just happen to have a disproportionate boost with a key constellation
Dehya on the other hand is basically a C0 unit that's broken into 7 pieces
You ever ask yourself whether or not Genshin's Hoyo knew the difference between Balancing and Gimping someone ?
They're trying so hard to make this game very "casual"
@@whitecheeze_rf casually pissing people off
To them, that's the same thing. Easy to avoid powercreep when you go hard in the other direction. You know, instead of making the baby easy content harder like it should be!
The moment I know jumping during burst make her burst gone pretty much told me how much the devs know about their own game. They 100% didn't play it themselves.
Hoyo said standard banner gotta be mid even tignhari isn't that great
You can help us, let Hoyoverse hear our voice. DehyaMains won't stop. We will fight for her for our last breath.
FixDehya JusticeForDehya
No omg I would reincarnate or even switch bodies to the game devs and nerf her to the grocery store.
They won't.
You gonna need CN player voice since theirs more stingy than our voice
@Dummy Keir So they definitely won't in that case. They don't care about Xinyan as well, so Dehya is definitely SoL on that one!
If You really want to make a statement no1 shouldve wished for her
I been waiting for this day for a while, time to grab my popcorn and see the day 1 dehya reviews
Its sad that her Burst cannot trigger Xingqiu and yelan Q
At least it mechanically makes sense since the attacks happen automatically and the additional player inputs are basically a QTE to increase the speed of the flurry. Unlike Raiden not working with Beidou which is actual Bullshit since even if her Burst uses Normal Atks but is considered Burst dmg, then it also shouldn't work with XQ and Yelan. Instead it only has no synergy with Beidou...
@@andrewaigalew I'm still so pissed about the Raidou nerf because it's all from BS excuses with technicalities of abilities that are now almost mockingly overlooked with newer characters (Cyno most especially)
the fact that both of them are on my main team makes me even sad now. I really wanted Dehya man...
@@k-disboher1105 Same.
@@andrewaigalew cmiiw, beido's burst can only be triggered if a normal attack (with normal attack damage) hits an enemy, meanwhile xq and yelan's burst can be triggered with NA animation, no need to hit enemy. Raiden's burst is considered as normal attack animation thats why she works with xq and yelan, but not beidou.
Love the stats display at the bottom of the video, SUPER helpful cause having to remember stats after seeing them for a split second on other videos is hard. So GREAT video!
Thank you so much for the video. That was so fast that I haven’t have a chance to get in the game due to the update 😂
Thank you so much for the video! All the best for people pulling her!
A side note: You can still get frozen mid animation of burst which means you spam space bar meaning you could end your burst unintentionally coz jumping cancels your burst.
her auto aim is bad as well, there's a video of her showing she can't hit Azhdaha when he's underground
Hey, thank you for that disclaimer about being nice to people who like non meta characters. I don't see many Genshin content creators mention that, and it's a serious problem I see with the community sometimes.
I love your vids, and I can't wait for your Baizhu vid soon!!!
Thanks a bunch for the review man!:)
I’m gonna pull for her and her weapon because, yeah, I do like her design and character, and also because I plan to experiment with a specified team build and see how she fairs. Probably won’t be nearly as effective as yours but it’s worth a try.
Thanks again for the heads up on her overall effectiveness. I seriously pray to GOD that she gets a buff from Hoyoverse at some point.
This is my first video of yours I watched and I really appreciated how you were honest about Dehya giving the pros and cons. I really love her character but I agree that she has some fundamental problems right now :(
i really wished that her defensive utility should be like this. everytime you get hit while you're in dehya's e. Dehya takes all the damage instead and it's reduced by 50-75% and her burst would have some sort of healing. now this would make her a good tank. the idea i got this from is that. what do tanks do in games? Yes they take the damage to defend their squishier teammates but tanks also Taunt and that means you're forced to go after the tank until the taunt wears off or until the tank is defeated.
No better to laugh at actually
I was with the idea that when Dehya takes the dmg, it is stored in reserve, with an indication like Raiden's E chakra desiderata. And when Dehya unleashes her burst, the reserve is consumed and she heals all the teammates by the amount she took that is stored in reserve.
It will act like Fa Jin of Deku in MHA, so with that, Dehya's burst gains additional buffs dependent on how much of the reserve was depleted. 50% of Max reserve: deals additional dmg based on 50% of max Hp, as if it's Shenhe quill.
The % of overall reserve depleted equates to the amount of max Hp bonus she gains
Her burst does have healing...at c4
@@axis1247 copium
They basically made her a meat shield without being a meat shield. Like at first I thought when she applied her E, when the enemies hit the character on field, they won't take damage (besides the resistance to interruption), and Dehya would be the one taking that damage. But uh no turns out both members take damage. What's the point then of making her a tank if the characters still take damage. And I thought she'd be a bit like Hu Tao, where the lower her hp the more dmg she does with her burst and with her passive talent of healing herself. Even if her burst doesn't do big damage, I thought her E would make up for it if the characters on field wouldn't take damage and it'll be transferred to Dehya.
Still gonna pull for her though. I love her design and lore and her personality, so I'm willing to invest in her.
Last words were the best. Nice video.
As always really apreciate how you make this video nice one
Damn, you made me remember that Zhongli used to get interrupted during his skill cast. He was so disappointing at first
Just looking at Dehya's BURST versus something like, a single Wanderer normal attack... god dammit
They really made her the power level of a single Eremite
Thanks for taking one for the team, man.
Great review
u are actually amazing in the last things
I really consider giving her the Vermillion Hereafter set due to her "bleed" passive
I don’t even have hope that she’s going to get better with new artifacts or when Fontaine got released anymore. I mean they deliberately handicapped her in so many ways, from her skill not giving interruption resistance all the way through, and making it extremely hard for her to gain energy all by herself. If I have to find reasons to stop playing this game someday (oh and it is very close) Dehya will be at the top of the list, because it is now clear that because of simplicity of the gameplay, they are only going to save the best concepts for Liyue characters while leaving other regions from now on with mid-tier units. Poor Dehya, I’m afraid she won’t be the last.
Just stop playing Genshin and live your life.
Buy some real games by working your a** off...trust me its not that hard and you will suffer less on gaming aspect.
Damn this is quite true, never thought of that. I mean we have raiden and ayaka, and few others but yeah.. :)
@@dongarippo7279 I mean, Dendro? Sumeru have a lot of good or at least useable character. Like Cyno not the best but he can be a good damage dealer, most of the dendro character is good as well.
@@reactiondavant-garde3391 everyone that isn't Dehya and Xinyan is usable/average to amazing however the percentage of said amazing characters is made mostly out of Liyue characters.
@@thegamerfe8751 On some level true, but in the same time I think it less true nowaday. Like Raiden or Kuki or all dendro character from Sumeru as Nahida. Or even Nilou is good if only niche. But yeah I can see why people saying this, it is not just that Liyue have all the stronges chaarcter but more like Liyue have much less weak characters compered to other regions.
That interruption resistance seems sooo good. I want to use her, Mahinda and my Tanya together as a team option. I will be summoning her thank you for the video
Well all I can say is that I hope all the dehya main will get either their fav dehya get some slight buff on her kit,or specific artifact set that will make her better in other update for now I wish all dehya main stay strong and have fun with her kit and master her kit.
I am so aware of what she can and can't do, but I was literally crying when I got her bc I prefarmed for her and wanted her so bad. And with my current hyper dehya team, mona, benny and sucrose, she dealt 91k with her burst and I have to say, I love her to bits!!!
Thank you so much for the honest review. I feel like Hoyo is trying to experiment a new kit with her and they overestimate the damage mitigation mechanic by making her multipliers that low. I was very excited to finally have another off field pyro that is not Xiangling, but damn, that low uptime and multipliers is so horrible. She also the first 5 star Pyro in around 1 year and 6 months(last is Yoi from Aug 2021) so I was really looking forward to her.
Wait for fontaine chars. She gonna be good
thats cope, you think they dont know their own math? may i reminds you they nerfed her, multiple times in beta. shes bad cuz mihoyo designed her to be dumped into standard banner, thats it.
@@mozinha until Fontaine try to kill lv 70 slime in a rotation if possible
@@mozinha another cope, fontain doesnt magiacally make a garbage char good. anything that would make dehya good, would make every other pyro char in the game absolutely broken. if fontaine char can buff dehya to be good, then that char would make hutao clear abyss 12 in 3 seconds lmao
@@mozinha Fontaine would need a character that totally breaks ICD of the party, and applies hydro fast enough for Dehya to vape every single hit of her ultimate
i dont see that happening
I'm surprised you didn't talk about the meme build of the ocean set.
I run her with Nahida, popsical boy (ice), and book boy (water sword). Almost every hit is causing a melt or vaporize reaction. Plus she is super damn tanky with 50k + health and the healing ability/damage from the set she uses. She doesn't do the best damage but she really is fun with this set up.
Thanks for the notes ... I love her design and her mechanics, there's a lot of nish characters that I love and I use lol so maybe she's going to be the next one lol
Honestly, I think she'd be a much better unit if her burst was more of an extension of her E and less DPS (if you can call it that lmao). A burst that boosts her E's Pyro application or leaves a Suiryu-style Pyro field could've turned her into Burgeon's answer to Kuki.
If more 5 ☆ characters are being pushed like this. The OG 5 ☆'S are the ones to get, no questions ask.
At least now not Qiqi the worst Standered Banner character. (yey)
Thanks to be honest with your first impressions, I like that
I'm having fun rotating with Candace and c6 Benett. She seems like one of the better candidates to run infusions on. Haven't figured out the fourth slot just yet (probably kazuha), and she has nothing on my hyperbloom or itto teams, but it is a lot of fun! I was really hoping her attacks during her burst could trigger yelan/xingqiu but I'm sure I'll find something to fill in the gaps.
I pulled for her cause I love her kit and her as a character. Idc about Meta & meta doesn't matter in a game with no endgame. I'm glad I got her 👌 I think she'll get an artifact set in the future to help offset her numbers, possibly when we get Fontaine since Hydro tends to scale with HP and that's a part of Dehya's scaling.
Don't care sbout meta but cares about her kit, numbers and artifacts LMFAOOO
Cope
The only thing HoYo needs to do to fix her is change her burst into normal attack so it can trigger Xq and Yelan burst. Forget buffing her multiplier. Just change her burst into normal attack and she will be tons better! WHY CAN'T THEY UNDERSTAND THAT?!
Well her E and Burst both need better cohesion with each other. They seem to conflict heavily with each other.
Nah theorycrafters were saying that even hydro wouldn't save her, she would need buff to her damage too
Should be the opposite, doing that Will only turn her into a worse Hu Tao/Yoimiya
Buffing her multipliers Will allow her to be a good character that doesnt need Yelan or Xingqiu
They understand full well. They made her shit on purpose.
the most honest review always! Thanks!
I'm not going for dehya rn. But hoping to get her later on and that melt/burning team is looking fun after.
Good luck to everyone pulling Dehya and Cyno:)
Hoyo knew people would still pull for her cause of her character design despite her being the literal sumeru xinyan
consoomer gonna consoom
And this could be a bad thing in the future, because they surely gonna make more bad characters if Dehya sales is okay to their standard even with her bad kits, because they knew players will still pull just for the looks...
Weaker Xinyan
@MinusX If you seen the interviews with the CEO of Hoyo, that's exactly the type of player they want.
@R F The only hope is that her sales ranking is terrible.
This is what will happen (my prediction if you will): Since she appears a lot in the story and a lot of people like her design, character, and animation from her trailer so they will want to play her, and when they do they will realize how bad she is and they will intentionally (or not, at least the thought will appear at the back of their mind once in a while) start to compare her to other characters that they can use and they will stop using her but because they like her character they might still try to make her work but then realize that they are wasting resource and time and they will just dislike her more and their opinion of her as a whole will change.
Basically, for better or worse, most people care about power level tho it may vary between individuals. Unless you are doing a challenge run, handicapping yourself never feels good and intentionally using a meh character when you can use someone else is just not fun, I still use Diluc, Qiqi, and Klee sometimes when I feel like it because I like them but how many people will go out of their way to use mid-low tier character when they have other option, their usage rate is so low despite their relatively high ownership rate and I can only imagine Dehya's once she gets to the standard banner, I'm afraid even if people like her if they get her instead of whatever they want more they will start to treat her like a joke (qiqi). Even for the pure sake of variety and experimentation, there are still plenty of well-balanced and flexible albeit not top tier character in the game which is basically anyone that is not Qiqi or amber (heck even amber can be decent if you are a whale or dolphin)
I only buy welkin and still can get 53 characters out of the 60 or so character in the game and almost 40 of them at level 90 crowned/lvl 9 talent, using Dehya right now will just highlight how bad she is in comparison to any other character that I have, including 4 stars. I'm not saying that everyone should care or all the characters should be top tier but I really don't like the mentality of accepting a bad deal when you deserve better. She is not Alloy, you don't get her for free nor is she a 4-star that will get to really good or at least acceptable state at C6 that you can get for free, she is a 5-star that will soon enter standard which means pure RNG to get her cons with super high opportunity cost, basically a second Qiqi. Oh and she doesn't even have much use on casual roaming/overworld unlike like Sayu, Yelan, or Wanderer.
People criticize Scara for being mid without C6 Faru and or Cons but even then he is still a really good character to use in a certain scenario or in the overworld (daily, exploration, event, etc) with his ability to fly and travel quickly while also regen stamina and have low cooldown skill, have a good long-range attack that is not tied to burst/energy and being anemo giving him flexibility in build and team building. He might be mid-tier in the abyss but he maxes out the stat for anything else making him a really good value character regardless of whether you like him as a character or not which is what I hope all the characters could be. They don't have to be a top tier generalist like Bennett, Xinqiu, etc but at least I wish they could be great in some situations and not be a burden which what I feel using Dehya, Qiqi or some C0 sumeru 4 star atm.
I know she will get a buff directly or not (from artifact like Kokomi or weapon like Albedo) but we don't know how much she will improve nor if we can ever get that buff at all (locked C6 4 star like faruzan) but regardless her C0 performance is the worse I have ever seen in since the game release (Qiqi, at least she is a competent healer that will keep your team alive while Dehya can't even do that well)
Oh yeah. 100% this. I love her character, her playstyle, her aesthetic, basically everything about her. Unlike Kokomi for me though, she doesn't seem to have the good uncapped potential that everyone is overlooking. Koko at least had one of the best hydro off-field applications. Dehya seems to just be missing something, that not even her C6 seems to fix. The fact she's weaker than Diluc, but competing for the same spot as him, is disappointing.
I really like your comment at the end of being nice. I personally play the game at a mid-high end level but mostly with a fun focus. I aim to make my characters good but also want to have fun and enjoy finding different ways to go about it. I like Dehya’s design and character in the story a lot. I hope they do buff her at least or something changes that makes people sight on her change a bit. Thank you for the video ^^
Thank you for the video. I think I'll wait for Shenhe and Ayaka.
She is a support that needs supports to support
real 😭
Oh, I thought "The Bell" would be a good option for her, but sadly the shield doesn't work... she still gets damaged, even if when you switch to her, she has the shield up, so it is applying it, it just doesn't work if she's not the on field char. One day this weapon will work with someone, I swear. Anyway, her kit is fun, and she's nice (like, in the story). Her kit fits her attitude, it's just kinda weirdly implemented. We'll see, it's not really a competitive game anyway, and the passive bonus, paired with Rosaria, is top tier for world exploration.
Oh thanks I won't waste my resources building it. I have a Sacrificial that just got R5'd during her banner so I'll see how that works since it's already built. Otherwise I guess I have to build my R1 Fav.
So much COPIUM in this statement 😂
You just need the shield for the damage boost when using the bell, and the HP boosts her skills.
@@braddl9442 Yeah, I think it's still good, but the potential of being a constant off-field shielder would've been amazing. Still, the substat is massive, as you say, so it definitely doesn't hurt. If the passive just was not so... weird. Even it's description is kinda vague, that weapon definitely shows that it comes from 1.0 ...
I doubt the Bell will ever have a good user. almost every character they release now relies on their burst uptime and weapons with hp, atk substat, etc aren't that valuable
So spicy in this video! I love it.
great video!
Mihoyo was thinking like : Alright, we need Burn cover... A character that can help Burn elemental reaction without too much affecting the active character...
seeing the pattern here i think baizhu is going to be the next meta character, since he's light-skinned and from liyue
bruh yeah 😂
Love your videos thx for honest review
Sac Greatsword and Tenacity can be good for supporting Burning Melt for maximum uptime and buff.
I like Dehya’s design and attitude. I’m pulling for her. I just like to play and enjoy Genshin on my terms. I win. I always win lol!
Bro remember; nobody will talk to you if you do.
@@mooddood4570
Yeah, I know. I remember when Eula got so much hate and I pulled for her anyway because she brought me back to Genshin and has kept me in Genshin since her launch.
I’m okay with being a black sheep.
Kokomi was another I absolutely adored so I pulled for her and she has not left my team since. I love destroying everything in Genshin with my God Eater team Eula, Zhongli, Raiden and Kokomi. Now I just need to find a team for Dehya and I’m set until Eula and Shenhe return to C6 as I promised Eula I would do for her since she’s so much fun to play. I love this game.
@@magnamic5614 Eula is a thousand times stronger than Dehya... (and I'm just talking about her AA)
@@magnamic5614 this time they should be under 6 feet in the ground bc of how shit their lives are. They're so stupid.
@@magnamic5614 100% there with u!!! I love Dehyas character and have been waiting for her for a while so ofc im pulling! People should lay off of others for not playing for the meta :/ it’s not hard to be a chill person smh
I’m curious: Given that Dehya is able to take damage while off field, is she able to activate The Bell while her skill is active?
At any rate: Thank you for being so upfront about everything. I’m still HEAVILY debating whether I want to pull for her or not, but this video has added lots of good information to consider.
no, only on field
@@arteshki5779 Dang… I was really hoping to combo it with ToM for a mega-dmg boost…
Coming off of Hu Tao and Yelan, and with Shenhe and Ayaka up next, I was never concerned about whether or not to consider Dehya - but I appreciate the assessment for the sake of affirming my opinion.
See I think there where a lot of small changes they could of done to make her better increased her pyro application, increase her skill up time and even making her work with yelan or xingqiu small changes like that
I do feel that she has a little Kokomi/Kuki syndrome, and that she'll get better with time or with a dedicated artifact set, but damn hoyo you didn't need to treat my girl like that. I'm an advocate of pulling for characters you will have fun and ignoring the damage meta slaves on a casual game (which rewards you with less than a pull for completing the hardest floor of the hardest content), but that does feel lazy, if not straight up ill-intentioned, for a 5-star character. Tighnari also got added to standart banner after his limited one and he's pretty good and very functional even at C0, but Dehya just feels like she's lacking a LOT for a character people would spend pulls on. Will gladly build her for a burning melt Ganyu if I ever lose 50/50 and get her, but that does feel bad :(
Can't even have high hopes for them to give her buffs like Zhongli because of the standart banner thing, truly a shame. Guess it's time to ignore all banners on the version and save up for Baizhu
Note: I'm not comparing Dehya to Kuki or Kokomi, they're very different characters. I'm just using them as examples of characters that had a bad/mid reception but ended up shining with the addition of new things to the game. Unfortunately she really doesn't seem like them.
The difference is Kokomi and Kuki still a good elemental applicators(plus heal) even before they get dedicated artifacts and Dedro updates, while Dehya on the other hand...
Whats even more scary is that it can happen on any future character at this point. I thought it would end with Tighnari simply because we havent gotten a dendro 5-star standard char yet, or maybe later on with a new 5-star standard geo char, but with Dehya when diluc already exists? Im honestly unmotivated to save at this point cause i might end up skipping banners for a character I like in the future like on Fontaine and they could just decide to put them on standard banner with a bad kit.
Well Kokomi was good from the beginning unfortunately she dropped around Raiden(another one not truly appreciated at the time)and m9st were to fixated on the critical even though she still can out dps most carries Dehya is more like Zhongli on release desperate need of a buff
Kokomi was never bad, y'all just wanted a DPS healer for some reason
Copium
12:10 "having decency is more important than having a meta character"
the moral that players dont deserve but need
I would argue decency is overrated when we're dealing with is a tide of Simps that act, like the game, is a visual novel.
I play whoever the fuck I like.
Dehya is fine for role as a Barbarian.
Imma wait for Baizhu, thanks for the info
It seems there is a character specific set is coming. My bet is that the set convert mitigated damage will to damage.
I love the honest review even though it hurts, it was still needed. I was clinging onto some last hope, hoping Hoyoverse made a last minute adjustment, HOW COULD I BE SO STUPID TO THINK THAT. I missed out on the opportunity to get Yelan because I really thought I was gonna spend all my 18k primos I saved up on Deyha, now I gotta skip another patch GODDAMMIT
its ok man. you'll find a gr8 worthy character for ur primos!
I feel you dude, I've been saving up by skipping hu tao really hurts my heart
Hydro Archon? She's coming sooner than you would think.
Man, I'm just so bummed about this. I know she is just gonna be on the standard banner, but god I hope Hoyoverse does something. This is like if Yae Miko came out and was trash because Dehya is like the character I've wanted the most in Sumeru.
Yae Miko was actually only decent on release. Her scalings were weird cuz of the Turrets benefitting from EM and Electro DPS in general not being favorable anywhere outside of Raiden National comps. Yae has only seen greater play with Dendro alongside Kuki and I rly hope Dehya's chance to shine comes soon as well.
There's no new element that will save her like Yae was, so not happening.
@@andrewaigalew that doesn't matter, Yae was excellent to me at launch and I was clearing Abyss with ease. My point is I waited for Yae for soooo long after Inazuma's release because she was one of favorites. Dehya is the same way, only she is incredibly lackluster, which is disappointing considering how long I've waited after Sumeru's release for her... Just like Yae.
@@infinitybelt how did you easily cleared abyss with shitty yae before dendro? I can't even fathom with her 80 cost ult and mediocre dmg unless you pumped whole national along with her
Unfortunately, I distinctly remember people did not like Yae when her gameplay was revealed. Many people called her boring. And her turrets had issues at first and hoyo went back and forth on fixing her. I didn't give a shit as I think she is one of the most visually appealing characters in the game, along with a fun personality. Pulled for her immediately. I wish her gameplay was a little more engaging but she was still doing pretty decent damage off-field. And now she's great with Dendro.
Sad that Dehya's numbers are just bad. Yae was certainly doing better damage at release.
I was really happy when i got her at 3 draws on the free intertwined fate i got from the Tour Guide thing. I like her elemental skill, burst not so much. I use her as xianglings support for now.
i had exactly the same set up in mind for her on a burgeon team
Thanks for your honesty. It is a shame that the developers did not give her a decent kit, it seems halfway done and that sucks because I really like the character. I want to pull for her because of that but I hope that she can be buff maybe not so much on damage but in utility like that the interruption resistance can last for all her elemental skill and the pyro application can be speed up a little bit.
Honestly, I thought they would made deyha similar to Hao tao and give her more damage each time character is dealt damage. I'm disappointed of the lost potential but still, I need the Pyro sister's
1:45 Ooh, a lot of guide vids I see seem to never mention how Nilou can in fact flex as a hydro enabler in a lot of teams
7:34 I figured this out when the buttons changed on the screen 😆 so I kept pressing them
really wish they reverted the nerfs from beta before she was released, basically means that her banner is more of bennet's than her own 💀
She’s fun so I pulled her. I’m not really excited for no one else so she’s worth the primos
You'll get bored of her in a week and never touch her again. Especially when the new flavor of the month comes around because you seem like the type of person that would be swayed by that. Basically, what I'm saying is what a waste of Primogems. I hope you lose all your 50/50's, and I hope you every single time lose to her just to rub your bad decision in even further. Heck, she still wouldn't be good even at C6.
@@youdontneedtoknow7548
Touch some gras Bro. Who cares.
@@youdontneedtoknow7548 Even as someone who wholeheartedly hates what they did to Dehya, and thinks Mihoyo needs to be held accountable for dropping the ball so hard (like with Zhongli at first), seek therapy and get a hobby. You're harassing several people in this comment section over a video game...a gacha game, no less.
@TusksTheAxew if I were you I'd promptly rope myself
@@mikebeno363 Proving my point that you lot lead mediocre lives if this is what you stoop to.
So once the version quiz starts, y'all please put your thoughts on her there
try pairing dehya with mona c2 with mona on HoD. they both sync very well
(she has perhaps one of the few teams that can use all 3 op buffers: mona, bennett & vv anemo & clear abyss with it)
Dehya is more disappointing than the time my dad left for the milk
Good because at least your dad actually is a smart working human being.
lol
@@mooddood4570 nice one 😂😂
At least she will eventually come back to you in perma banner or when you lose a 50/50, unlike your dad
@@richlee6331 Or not...(knowing the luck of some people like me only getting my 1st Diluc after year and a half)
They'll probably give her, her own artifact set lol
SURELY they'll give her a lil lil somethin in 3.6💀💀💀
That’s not enough to fix how horrible she is
They just need to fix her skill
It’s actually out. All it does is give her more damage based on how many times she takes damage. The problem is that this will be only as strong as what we currently have right now (give or take 5%) if the recent artifact power scalings are anything to go by. And judging from her current power levels with the best artifacts we have atm, it’s not much so the damage increase won’t be much either.
To give her artifact set that buffs her enough to be able to compete with xiangling, you would need to essentially triple her damage.
Wait 8:55 so you were still able to easily clear the Abyss with a build of hers? I'm glad you said this, people out here saying she can't even kill slimes
Try to use her passive in combination with the Ocean-Hued-Clam set to deal dmg without having to do anything by focusing on her HP and self-healing to get the most out of the artifact set.^^
Their damage is abysmal
Also their Ganyu doing 2k
They gone Very dirty on my girl
I've been wanting to pull for her for months, it's disappointing but imma go for it anyway, let's hope she'll be decent in my melt ganyu team
As a cope team build I put her on a team with kokomi, nahida, and collei. Things do die really fast but not sure how much of that is because of her. The aoe from her skill Pyro application does seem to do a lot though.
qiqi looking like a good 50/50 loss right about now lol
Nah, I'd rather get Dehya.
@@arnold_gamer I'd rather get cancer before either of 2.
Just remember that Zhongli and Geo itself had to be buffed because he was so bad on release.
I get that shes bad now, but that could always change in the future.
Zhongli is literaly the Geo Archon and remains a limited character
Dehya on the other hand is a side character - beloved - but not the Pyro archon and to make matters worse she is pushed onto standard which many pick up as a death sentence. What use is there to Buff her - she will never be re featured on a banner hence she will not make them money anymore.
Zhongli is from liyue
Zhongli is white
Zhongli is the icon of China
Zhongli was also an Archon and CN playerbase felt deeply saddened by his performance, not to mention a Limited Character.
I decided to go for dehya and though I haven’t 36 stared the abyss I definitely have the characters to do it such as xiao, wanderer, shogun and ayaka it’s just that well I really didn’t start spending much Resin until ar 49 so it’s gonna be a while but I like the unit and will build her also I already got her 😁
You sir are a knuckledragger.
Foolish simp.
I fell in love with Dehya since I first met her in the Sumeru Archon Quest. It was clear to me that I'd pull her. So I did.
Got her after 75 pulls. So no regrets.
The only thing that's a real bummer is that her Burst does not trigger Yelan Burst attacks, which I wanted to initially build upon, cause I pulled Yelan in her recent rerun...
Xinyan is better 💀💀💀
Why does Hoyo have so little love for tanned characters ?
Deep-rooted Chinese cultural racism, and I'm not even kidding.
@@CappuccinoSquid
Just remember that Zhongli and Geo itself had to be buffed because he was so bad on release which destroys your logic.
I get that shes bad now, but that could always change in the future.
@Aglis Xinyan and deyha are both bad sooo that's what they're talking about
@@aglis_ yea, maybe when Natlan comes
@@CappuccinoSquid oof, pulled that one out of your ass.
bro definitely saved the best pulling reason for the last there
Got her very early with first 10 pull... dumped the rest on her weapon banner to get some pity there going and for BP. Hope to get the claymore with later wishes ^^
I regret nothing xD