The Empress ZOIA Is For Guitar Too (Stereo Demo)
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THE FUTURE IS NOW AND I CANT AFFORD IT.
i am so perplexed
I love you. Get it. Just wait 2 years and then everything (almost) is less in price.
@Anne O'Nymous I actually build industrial audio equipment.
@@buffalothebison4850 XDDD
@@buffalothebison4850 I build guitars cuz no way am I gonna cash out 4000 dollars for a guitar I could build for 300
Hey everyone, I’m thinking it might be fun to do a live stream of exploring and making patches on the Zoia based on suggestions from the chat! I planning on April 15th at 7:30pm EST, what do you think?
Also all my patches from this video and anything else I come up with will be available on the Empress patch storage site when it's available! Plus some of these might even come pre-loaded on ZOIAs
Awesome. I'm on it, thanks for doing this.
Hi man, awesome sounds! Did you ever put the patches up on patchstorage.com? I have looked for them, but haven't found them nor your profile.
@@boeg Bumping this comment because I just did a cursory search on patchstorage and found some things, but nothing like the Env Vibrato CE patch
CE's Env Vibrato is a factory patch, right? I count 14 on patch storage: 4 factory patches (author: Ian Pritchard) and 10 collectoremitter.
It's sort of like fire... I'm afraid of it, yet drawn to it...
I wrote a very stellar comment but I bumped my touch screen and, oh well, all was gone....Anyway....The Zoia is now a must for me....thanks for the push. Lol
So well done. I'm so impressed by your creativity to see things like the Drunk Looper patch and the random pan. Just awesome.
Thanks so much man! I really appreciate it, especially coming from you
I've watched a few of the tutorials and demos geared towards synth users (like me) but your demo (guitar&synth) is the best so far to show off the actual sound effects possible. Particularly interested in adding randomness like you did. Beautiful sounds and ideas. Thanks.
Thanks so much! I really appreciate it. I have a few synth patches but decided to focus on effects because I figured someone else would cover the synth aspects way better than I could
I really love this demo. The music by itself is wonderful. And on top of that you showcased the many possibilities of this pedal. Great work!
Thank you so much dude, I really appreciate it! This, especially making the generative patch, really has me catching the modular bug 😬
Drunk Looper sounds like wind chimes. Great guitar-focused presentation of this beast! Many thanks :)
Thanks so much!
This video made me get a zoia! Just uploaded a guitar jam for jamuary with a patch using the pitch tracking module which manipulates an oscillator. So much potential!
No joke: the patch at 9m10s (procedurally-generated MIDI info) would have been enough to sell it to me! Wow! What a pedal.
Me too! I started working on it after looking at much more expensive gear that could do similar generative sequencing. I figured why not try it on ZOIA first, and it worked really well 😄
my top pedals for 2019 .. the chase bliss Mood...this thingy...the Hedra by Meris... the Kaoss pad3... the Lysis by Solidgoldfx... the beetronic swarm.. and all other meris and chase bliss pedals...there is so much goodness ... where do we start..the red panda started it all for me... it is beyond my mind set
Incredible pace and playing as always. Great use of the stereo field, sending individual modules to left or right. That is brilliant man. I agree this is my new studio multi-tool, and the question arises can the ZOIA do this?
I’m not typically a stereo person, so I figured I’d go all out and see what was possible! This now has a permanent spot next to my computer for whatever I might need it for, which I assume is how a lot of people will use it
Nice work as always!
Thanks so much 😄
This is incredible dude!
Thanks so much guys!
I have a feeling this might be replacing all of my effect pedals.
I own one. Its badass but no it wont.
@@krowland7584 why not?
The way you can set it up as a synth, but then use an analog instrument to control the pitch, just blew me away.
It honestly seems like, with all the functionality of that unit, its something you could realistically keep using indefinitely, for years to come. Far from planned obsolescence, that thing is very forward-compatible.
This video costs me a lot of money. Damn that thing is awesome.
It really is! I have a feeling you’ll get a lot of use out of it
@@collectoremitter That could propably be true! An all purpose machine for guitar, synth and everything else in sofajams. :D
Man, I absolutely love the idea surrounding the ZOIA, and I would literally buy it right this minute (and am seriously considering it regardless of the following) - but I just can't help feeling that it seems really under-powered considering its possibilities.
For instance, I had the idea of a 3 pedal in 1 patch that essentially recreates something along the lines of a Fairfield Circuitry Shallow Water or Cooper FX Generation Loss, then adding delay and reverb options - but now, Im not so sure there would be near enough cpu resources for a patch that elaborate.
Maybe I should just pull the trigger anyways, I suppose I could always sell it with little financial loss.
So, how did you get on?
@@filminrussia7095 Hey man, sorry for the late reply here - just noticed your reply. But yeah....I ended up ordering a Zoia a day or so after my original post. lol
Its been cool - its a great device - though I havent been able to mess with it quite as much as Id like, but its definitely a rabbit hole. Between all the community patches and what Ive done myself, its just crazy how deep it can go and how many areas it touches. The updates have been nice and steady too, which is nice. I definitely wish it was a bit more powerful, as you're bound to hit the wall on some patches, but I find myself, and others, getting more creative in the pursuit of doing more with the Zoia while trying to avoid those walls.
So yeah, its definitely a great bit of kit. Glad I dove in.
I bet I could replace my entire pedal board with this.
this video made me cry
@ 6:32 it gets into my world, but then the demo goes back into Cranberries mode. I love you guys. Thanks for the demo.I want Devo meets Slayer meets Pink Floyd meets Djenty Jazzy groove metal but with a lot of insane LFO and Synth trippin. It's all part of my Psyedelic Metal Fantasy.
omg i just found this, can i just say that the MEXI TELE is 100% the mvp here. Wow that sounds great
That guitar is my favorite of everything I own. It clearly was upgraded by the previous owner but I have no clue what pickups they put in it. I just know it sounds and plays perfectly
The Big Kahuna of pedals. The heavyweight champion, cause it's not a matter of what it can do, but what CAN'T it do. Five hundred bucks is a steep price, but it's worth it.
When Empress first showed this off over a year ago, I wasn't that stoked. Undoubtedly it was a clever concept, but at the time I wasn't that invested. Since then though I've found myself more and more wanting a specific sound and finding that either it doesn't exist or it exists but in a $350 pedal with other less important features. That's fine if you have large income and a huge board, but most of us can only really afford one or two pedals per year and need to keep things compact. To be able to have a sequenced tremolo without owning a Goatkeeper, a weird lo-fi vibrato without owning a Warped Vinyl, a standard chorus pedal without owning a CE-2, an attack/decay function without owning a Slow Gear, a synth without owning a Synth9 or Enzo, it's fantastic. I can't see it replacing some of my analog pedals, but as a one-stop-shop for all the weird and wacky stuff, totally worth the $500. It could save a lot of money and board space.
Exactly! It gives you the ability to cover any of those needs to the extent you need them. I could imagine a board with a ZOIA, a MIDI controller for the ZOIA, a good distortion, and maybe an analog delay would cover 90% of most people’s needs pretty easily
Daniel West you reminded me that i have a goatkeeper sitting half assembled in a drawer. Gotta get that rocking again!
I love that vibrato patch! is it on patch storage? I could not find it...thank you!
Holy moly. Yup, there goes part of my next paycheck. ha.
Haha, luckily it’s worth every penny!
highkey replacing my entire board
ok but does it have a tuner
I imagine you could program one, though that would be a waste of its processing power
🎣 here’s one.
3:40 da meat
What was the patch you used right at the beginning? Sounded brilliant 👏🏻
Great sounds. Thnx for sharing. Are any of these sounds on Patch Storage for download?
Wow. This pedal is absolutely amazing. And I love your patches as well :). Is there any effects modules with time stretching stuff, granular synthesis ? That would be sick ! Is it something you could build from scratch ? ( I don't know anything bout modular...)
Granular stuff might be possible if you mess with the looper module and get it just right, but there’s no actual granular module yet
@@collectoremitter Cool, thanks for your answer !
This is just frustrating because while I'm sure it's good/ great pedal... the idea that while making a sound you might never get 100% of what you're looking for. You might bet a synth sound that you're content with, but the idea that I missed a 13% end decay or whatever which would have made it sound better just plagues my mind.
There's 45 (or 48 depending) buttons on this thing with a screen the quarter the size of a game boy... idk. I love this pedal, but I hate that I love it.
You realise that this thing has multiple pages right? So is not at all limited by the number of buttons?
Can you export a sound from a VST like Serum or Massive into the ZOIA, and play/trigger it with your Guitar?
9:05 made my jaw drop
Love this tone - what UAD amps are you using here?
Due to my likely cognitive issues with this pedal, I may have to wait for 2 button Princess ZOIA version.
Lol
How is the pitch shifter? Would you be able to simulate a pog2 (by having -2, -1, dry, +1, +2), and is it polyphonic?
I honestly haven’t spent enough time with the pitch shift module to know, but I’ll mess around and see what’s possible!
So it's transforming the audio signal from the guitar to midi to control synths or zoia is used as a midi controller? I didn't figure out what you did!! Can you control the onboard synth engines with the guitar?
It isn’t turning the guitar signal to midi in this video, but that would be possible (same with controlling the ZOIA’s synth engine)! The pitch tracking module is only monophonic though. The section with the synth, the ZOIA is actually generating the midi data on its own
@@collectoremitter oohh ok, got it now!!! Thank you!!! Greetings from Greece!!! :)
Do you know if they gonna add Granular fx and Sampler? Also, as I understand it can convert audio to midi, could you show a patch that uses guitar to play synth?
I believe a sampler is being worked on, and they might be trying to make a granular module work but that might be pretty dsp hungry. Well have to wait and see
collector//emitter thanks for your answer! How was your experience with cpu? I noticed that all the patches I saw in various demos are around 90% while they have only few pages. Did you feel limited by cpu often while creating your patches?
portwain we added a granular module recently and sampler is in the game plan
Have you had a chance to mess around with the sequencer in-depth? Can it be programmed to play arpeggio sequences, note by note like the Adrenalinn?
Edit: Thanks for the video. Sounds amazing.
I’m not sure I understand fully because I’ve never used an Adrenalinn, but it should be possible to transpose the sequencer with the right patching. You’d have to approach it as sending an offset to each note in the sequence
@@collectoremitter Thanks. It's probably not your lack of understanding regarding the Adrenalinn as much as it is my terrible grasp of the nomenclature. I was thinking of the kind of sequences in John Mayer's "Bigger than My Body" (not exactly but it's a well-known example). Sounds like I could do it per your explanation.
Different length loops? So I can do what the Infinity looper does with polyrhytms? Also, is there a pitch tracker? If not I hope they add one.
There is a pitch tracker, and you could do looping polyrhythms! Plus the looper module has been updated since this demo to be way more usable
@@collectoremitter Whoah, this thing is deep!
Awesome !
Thanks so much Anne!
Can you share that modulated vibrato one? Amazing.
Absolutely! I’m fine-tuning the patches to make sure there are no issues and then I’ll be posting every patch from this video on Empress’s patch storage site
@@collectoremitter SO cool man. Is that where things are going to be on PS? Haven't seen a Zoia page yet, but maybe that will be after 4/15. I just grabbed one, so pumped.
At 8:48 what synth are you using to control its MIDI via ZOIA? Wonderful demo as always, btw!
Sorry, I should’ve mentioned that! The ZOIA is generating the MIDI note data and sending it to my Korg Prologue, which is then coming back through the ZOIA for the delay and reverb
@@collectoremitter Very cool. I'm wondering how well ZOIA can be used as a "synth pedal" for guitar, a la Enzo, Synth9, etc
@@nathanschneider1805 I think it most likely can be done, but you're going to need to experiment to get there. That's the fun part. Maybe we can try to tackle a simple "synth pedal" eh @C//E?
It’s definitely possible! I had a patch like that that I filmed for this but it was kinda half assed and didn’t sound too great. Maybe Sound Isles and I can combine our knowledge and come up with something better!
@@collectoremitter I like the sound of this mastermind mash up!
Is there a limit to the patches you can store? I really hope not.
There is a limit of 64, but that really is way less than it seems. I’ve had it for over a month and have only been making my own patches, and I still have over half the space available
collector//emitter true but with all the patches the community is gonna upload, 64 is eventually going to seem minuscule. Oh well, I guess it gives you a chance to be really productive with the limit. Unless, Steve makes updates to store 128 at some point and so on. Good to know though, thanks.
Mario Duenas right now we’re storing patches in a dumb inefficient way. After release we’re hoping to add a filesystem to the firmware so you can have many more patches
cab sims? sold
Any possibility to have am amp sim on this like those from Neural DSP?
No, that wouldn’t be possible
@@collectoremitter Thanks for the reply!
Is your guitar connected to both the left and right inputs?
Can you explain your setup?
Yeah, I set up all my patches to be true stereo (right and left processed separately) so I put a bypassed pedal with stereo outs before the ZOIA just to split the signal. I could have made the patches mono friendly where one input is processed by both signal chains but I preferred it this way.
@@collectoremitter can this also be achieved by using a Y cable(1/4" trs female-dual 1/4" ts male)?
Possibly, I haven’t tried it so I can’t say for sure. But you can also plug into just one input and route that within the pedal to two separate signal paths which would be essentially the same thing
@@collectoremitter From what I've researched, using just a Y connector will actually diminish the signal by half causing a lot of problems in sound.
Finding a good a/b/y pedal is the best solution. Now, of all the choices, finding the right one that suits my setup will require a lot of research.
Thanks for your input. Very helpful.
Dingo little known hot tip is that if you dont plug anything into the right input, the left input gets routed to the right input. The input impedance is pretty high so you shouldnt notice signal loss
this bit of info 3:50 does that mean I could literally recreate the Empress ParaEq with same quality?
Well the ParaEq is analog so not exactly, but you could create a similar eq if you programmed it the right way
@@collectoremitter the paraEq is ANALOG!? I did not know that.. I've been thinking empress was kinda like strymon in that sense. wow
Came for the Zoia, stayed for the music 💕
Are you sharing your patches anywhere?
Yes! I’m cleaning them up a bit right now and I’ll post everything and more on the Empress patch storage site 🙂
@@collectoremitter awesome to hear! I've been beta testing too but my patches are kinda basic still. Today's been a big help watching everyone's demos to wrap my head around things a bit more. Can't wait to see how the freeze delay one works!
So cool..
Those small MIDI ports, is that just a MIDI-to-3.5mm jack cable then? Or do you need an interface in between?
It comes with short 1/8" to MIDI cables, so you just need your standard MIDI cables to interface.
Yeah, it’s 1/8” to MIDI adapters and then you just need a MIDI cable beyond that
@@stevebragg7914 From the man himself :D It's great that it comes included, and also an SD card right?
Man, this thing is really something else.. I've been digging through the manual and module list for 2 full days now out of excitement!
I wonder how long it'll take to get to the Netherlands...?
It can! It has the MIDI specific ports that the adapters are for, but it also has the Cport which is assignable as MIDI (from something like the Midibox), expression, or cv
Can I launch wav files stored in the SD Card?
That’s one thing that’s not possible. There’s no sample playback module, probably because it would be a bit too CPU hungry, but they might end up adding one eventually
dewberry30 thats one of the big firmware updates im excited about. It will take some time but i think we’ll get there. Then the ZOIA will be a full blown custom sampler/looper
Steve Bragg Wow thanks Steve! Cant wait for the patch website to populate with zoia patches from other users. Cant wait for mine to arrive.
drunk looper sounds like animal collective
.:Wo_______oW:.
JUST SOLD MINE> quickest purchase flop of my gear career. I'm too guitar oriented for it, and was having too many MIDI issues , tech support said it was nice the owner was nice but too much tinker time for even a tinkerer. by by Zoia you were fun maybe in a Casio watch kinda way. xoxox
The only interesting sound came from the Panda. Can't the Zoia emulate that sound?
You're lost.
No, thank you.