I hade Pathos , it sound very musical , but after a year get very hot , it die , i give it back for repair , but get broke again , I give up on that , but man it sounds good , one of choke ( inductance ) get broken .
Awesome amp. Even if you can’t afford this amplifier, you have to take time out to admire all of the work and engineering involved with the creation of this amplifier. It’s all about the attention to details.
The polarizing looks of this amp could be a turn off but those quality parts all in one box is very impressive. It looks like they spared no expense. I would love to hear this amp someday.
Hey look, I’m not one of those “diMInIshiNG rETUrnS” people and I’m sure this sounds like a $100000 product, but if you’re calling something a “$50000 bargain” it had better be a house
Strange , a friend of mine has a Pathos Logos now for years , it’s even not that well treated by him, including being in a room not that well insulated ( house near The sea) , the amp even has little points of rust on the front panel, and continues to work without a problem
I love when companies spend as much time on the aesthetics as they do the performance. I’d have no issue paying this price for this amp if it suited my needs. Great video Kevin.
That sounds like Quads "current dumping " circuit. A class A tube amp followed by a current dumping circuit . Invented by Peter Walker of Quad about 50 years ago.
I luv my pathos and hope the company thrives. What price transients ? -- The InPol Legacy IA is sufficient to drive the Focal GU EM EVOs so adding 2 Adrenaline PAs (200 W @ 8 Ohm) is already a huge step up. The GUs are 8 Ω and sensitivity (2.83V / 1m) 94dB - Focal recommend 150 - 1,500W - a huge range Why 4 Adrenalines -vs- 2 - you can already biwire the Legacy, the pair of Adrenalines and now adding a 2nd pair you would be bi-amping -- BUT not with a BRIDGE in the upstream signal path. The speaker has the option to bi-amp (removing the straps) and connecting BASS and MAIN inputs but how does the AMP know what it is connected to. Historically one has connected very high power solid state amps to Subs and to Woofers AND lower power but more flavoursome amps (ideally tube amps) to the tweeter and mids. BUT being a 4 way the GU's connections really just allow the Deep Base (subs) to be separated from the other 3 drivers - splitting the spkrs into a 16" (40cm) 'W' Electro-Magnet EM Sub and 3 way (Multiferrite 11" (27cm) 'W' midbass ; 2 Power Flower 61/2" (16.5cm) 'W' midrange drivers with TMD suspension and NIC magnet AND IAL2 pure Beryllium inverted dome 1" (27mm) tweeter). I assume that each connection is followed by a crossover - (HP/LP filter) that rejects frequencies not desired in the S/Base or Mains - as a result "what harm is there" in adding more power and bi-amping - none to my eyes. I wonder if one was to be able to dial in an electronic crossover what frequency would work best for this split -- ideally Focal would tell you - but in reality the crossover will sort it out. My suggestion is give it a go (play a good version of 1812 with live cannons as loud and then as quietly as you can bear) and hear the difference.
Once again, the topic of sales commission has come up, and I would like to remind the sales team that the profit margins on audio equipment are typically between 20-50%. For instance, selling an integrated amplifier for $50,000 with a 30% margin will make a gross profit of $15,000. This profit can and should be shared with the sales team via commission for their efforts, while the remaining gross can be used for inventory and overhead costs. It seems like some of our profits may be going towards paying for Casa Del Kevin's Crib. HA!!
Maybe $8,000 in the end but still silly for 99% of people with ears. We need Kevin to do a hearing test at his semi advanced age. Probably can't hear past 12,000 Hertz as it is.🤔🤫🙄
Who is he kidding? Value for the money? Does it have silver wiring and all gold contacts? Did they make their own capacitors, resistors, and transistors? Let's call a spade a spade. It is pure bragging rights.
Audio note ( for example) has value for money ,… Line magnetic is a lot of value for money , ……Pathos is a lot of bling ( I like the sound of their amps) but is an error to think that all that crafty bling is not payed
Kelvin is the "Foster Brooks" of High End Audio. I love this guy!!!
This is art in engineering...I wish I could hear it.
Love the video, what a fascinating integrated amplifier.
There's magic in them electrons......
Love the videos showing inside the products. Those heat sinks on the Pathos are amazing!
8:54 Yeah, actually my $1000 Schiit Freya + has a 128 step attenuator :)
But done with a chip not resistors which is mentioned 20 seconds later as why it's unique.
@@Koru-Health You can easily build your own step attenuator using the resistors of your choice.
@@Koru-Health All for $50,000 🤡
Kevin, you are so addictive 🫶
I hade Pathos , it sound very musical , but after a year get very hot , it die , i give it back for repair , but get broke again , I give up on that , but man it sounds good , one of choke ( inductance ) get broken .
Well Done!
Been waiting for this review!!
Nice speaker at the back
I dont know what else to say. Holy crap. Thing looks so cool
Awesome amp. Even if you can’t afford this amplifier, you have to take time out to admire all of the work and engineering involved with the creation of this amplifier. It’s all about the attention to details.
The polarizing looks of this amp could be a turn off but those quality parts all in one box is very impressive. It looks like they spared no expense. I would love to hear this amp someday.
I’m sure you could sell ice cream to eskimos.
Please write that book. I would buy a copy.
Ken sure hates McIntosh 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yep 😢
Hey! It's Kevin! I love Mac. I made no reference to them. They don't make anything like this. I was talking about some super high-end brands
Hey look, I’m not one of those “diMInIshiNG rETUrnS” people and I’m sure this sounds like a $100000 product, but if you’re calling something a “$50000 bargain” it had better be a house
Very, very nice integrated amplifier for those who can afford it. However, personally I wonder why it costs as much as a BMW 3 Series?
So true. And that comes with a decent sound system included.🤔🤫🤪😉😇
The amplifier looks gorgeous but unfortunately they are very unreliable & I wouldn't waste my money on their products again ...
Strange , a friend of mine has a Pathos Logos now for years , it’s even not that well treated by him, including being in a room not that well insulated ( house near The sea) , the amp even has little points of rust on the front panel, and continues to work without a problem
But now …that I read all the horror stories here ….indeed difficult to trust the brand
I have Pathos Inpol Remix. I use evo power conditioner. Pathos will work forever without any problems.
It's a "Bargain" because he makes $25,000 when you buy it. 😂
I love when companies spend as much time on the aesthetics as they do the performance. I’d have no issue paying this price for this amp if it suited my needs. Great video Kevin.
That sounds like Quads "current dumping " circuit. A class A tube amp followed by a current dumping circuit . Invented by Peter Walker of Quad about 50 years ago.
Can't take a mortgage out for an amp!!! I Love my Vintage Electronics anyway!
I’ll have to be satisfied with my Primaluna
If I had the money I would open a hifi store in my town. The only one closed about 15 years ago.
I luv my pathos and hope the company thrives.
What price transients ? -- The InPol Legacy IA is sufficient to drive the Focal GU EM EVOs so adding 2 Adrenaline PAs (200 W @ 8 Ohm) is already a huge step up. The GUs are 8 Ω and sensitivity (2.83V / 1m) 94dB - Focal recommend 150 - 1,500W - a huge range
Why 4 Adrenalines -vs- 2 - you can already biwire the Legacy, the pair of Adrenalines and now adding a 2nd pair you would be bi-amping -- BUT not with a BRIDGE in the upstream signal path. The speaker has the option to bi-amp (removing the straps) and connecting BASS and MAIN inputs but how does the AMP know what it is connected to. Historically one has connected very high power solid state amps to Subs and to Woofers AND lower power but more flavoursome amps (ideally tube amps) to the tweeter and mids. BUT being a 4 way the GU's connections really just allow the Deep Base (subs) to be separated from the other 3 drivers - splitting the spkrs into a 16" (40cm) 'W' Electro-Magnet EM Sub and 3 way (Multiferrite 11" (27cm) 'W' midbass
; 2 Power Flower 61/2" (16.5cm) 'W' midrange drivers with TMD suspension and NIC magnet
AND IAL2 pure Beryllium inverted dome 1" (27mm) tweeter). I assume that each connection is followed by a crossover - (HP/LP filter) that rejects frequencies not desired in the S/Base or Mains - as a result "what harm is there" in adding more power and bi-amping - none to my eyes. I wonder if one was to be able to dial in an electronic crossover what frequency would work best for this split -- ideally Focal would tell you - but in reality the crossover will sort it out.
My suggestion is give it a go (play a good version of 1812 with live cannons as loud and then as quietly as you can bear) and hear the difference.
Once again, the topic of sales commission has come up, and I would like to remind the sales team that the profit margins on audio equipment are typically between 20-50%. For instance, selling an integrated amplifier for $50,000 with a 30% margin will make a gross profit of $15,000. This profit can and should be shared with the sales team via commission for their efforts, while the remaining gross can be used for inventory and overhead costs. It seems like some of our profits may be going towards paying for Casa Del Kevin's Crib. HA!!
If you buy this amp from Kevin he will make $25000 from you! 😅
Maybe $8,000 in the end but still silly for 99% of people with ears. We need Kevin to do a hearing test at his semi advanced age. Probably can't hear past 12,000 Hertz as it is.🤔🤫🙄
Great video, but that amp is absolutely hideous. Glad it sounds great.
Over-engineering, still the greatest marketing tool when selling to the rich.😮
Sure what a bargain...lol. What a joke.
Who is he kidding? Value for the money? Does it have silver wiring and all gold contacts? Did they make their own capacitors, resistors, and transistors? Let's call a spade a spade. It is pure bragging rights.
Audio note ( for example) has value for money ,… Line magnetic is a lot of value for money , ……Pathos is a lot of bling ( I like the sound of their amps) but is an error to think that all that crafty bling is not payed
Sir you don’t reply at all, very sad. Give your email address