I used a a Foton Neon Duo camera support. While not a steadicam, it does make using DSLRs for long periods a lot more comfortable and stable. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
I always shoot with the flattest profiles possible and then grade the images to my liking in software later. There is a type of look I like, so the images look quite similar regardless of what camera I filmed on. I also try and use large sensor cameras, so the depth of field is usually quite similar shoot to shoot. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
This is the best video I've found on these cameras. You really put the cameras through their paces, and the whole time I didn't once feel like I was being pushed either way out of personal bias.
A couple more things, since I just finished watching. 1. What Camera Calibration settings in LR4 did you use for each body? 2. The stairwell shots from both cameras seemed to be far-focused past her face. Was that intentional, or did the cameras miss the target? Thanks for putting this video up! John MacLean
Part 1 was all shot RAW, and edited in Lightroom 4. Part 2 used the default JPEG compression, but with Noise Reduction turned off on both cameras. Part 3 was shot on Neutral profiles, with sharpening and contrast turned all the way down. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
We were analysing the images in Lightroom, which zooms into 100%. Because the Nikon files are higher resolution, the comparison tool zooms in more on the Nikon. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Why is this video only mid resolution? The idea of looking at 22MP and 36MP images on a 2MP (1080p) video is not ideal, but what is the MP of 720p video? This is one of the first videos I've seen in years that didn't lag while loading, so it's nice that youtube could finally load it's content on demand.
You're in better hands now! The cameralabs test only analyzed JPEG capture, we looked at RAW quality. Our upcoming second video was shot in JPEG, and from what we've seen, cameralabs seems to be onto something... Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
D800 win in most perspective. The only Gear FROM cANON i was interesting In was 5D mark 3.... after deep search it come up that I HAVE TO SHIFT TO D800.
Albadani Moe Photography It comes down to personal needs and what you do. I prefer the Canon for focusing speed and accuracy and colour of skin tones. Interstingly enough, neither of the cameras in this particular test impressed me for image quality. When the first RAW portraits were shown I felt they were soft. I have taken noticeably sharper images on a crappy 1200D with an 85mm f/1.8 lens in outdoor soft light (shade), hand-held, and I am not kidding. Admittedly, we are probably losing a lot of the quality of the test images by way of viewing them in a video.
omg, you guys have the best review! im tired of looking for picture quality tests and running into videos that take pictures of circles and building windows. i understand they want to show the sharpness, but i want to be able to see how they translate with glamour and portraits.
What you really need to do is test the cameras yourself. Canon and Nikon cameras produce excellent images and no one will know which camera took which shot when you mix them up and drop them on a table. Therefore, the critical decider as to which camera to buy is which feels better in YOUR hands, which is the fastest and most logical to operate for how YOU think, which focuses fastest and most accurately, which offers the best number of lenses for YOUR needs, etc. The guys in this video are very Nikon biased and it comes across in every video they make. I take people's opinions with a grain of salt as a Canon fan will try to sell you on Canon and a Nikon fan will try to sell you on Nikon. For straight out image quality you can do a search on the net along the lines of "Nikon D800 sample images" and then "Canon 5D Mark 3 sample images" and look at many different sites for each camera. You shouldn't find much difference, if any, as both camera produce excellent images. Look especially at images of people as faces seem to show quality differences more than almost any other subject. Busy scenes, such as brick buildings, city scenes and fields of flowers look good on even a cheap compact camera, but human faces separate the toys from the real cameras. The overall feel and handling is what matters most.
Are the studio shots with the same exposure? One thing I learned from my professor was how Nikon (perhaps the other companies too) underexpose the image by telling you you're at middle grey sooner so the highlights don't blow out. re Are they reading two different exposures? Last, did you just use a handheld meter?
The 5D Mark III is a better video camera than the Mk II as you gain a headphone jack, improved audio pre-amp, an option for lower compression, and a 720/60P mode. See part 3 of this series for more detailed information. Jordan @ The Cameras Store TV
Sorry I'm not sure what you're asking... The photos in this test were shot under both controlled lighting (in studio) as well as florescent lighting (in parking garage).
Chris, I wish could provide a link to you guys about pulling out shadows out of dark areas on both cameras. I'm sure you will find the 5dmkIII to show a lot more color casts when doing so.
How did you process the Canon raw files. There are noted issues with the software Canon provided. The software is heavily softening the images though there are several methods to get around this. You may need to revisit these with Lightroom 4.1 with Canon support depending on what you used.
Its the manfrotto 804RC2 and I prefer to be able to control my up/down and side-to-side movements independently as opposed to a ball head that just moves all over the place.
The light leak issue is insanely minor. If you are doing very long exposures in pitch black situations it will effect exposure. I think the D800 and 5D III should be compared as they are the current entry level full-frame DSLRs from the two largest producers. The D800 has its issues as well. Trust me, I'll bring them up in part 3. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Great review. BTW the focus hunting issue has been resolved with the latest firmware update on the D800/E. What about the $500 price difference? and the fact that the D800 has built in flash with commander mode plus focus assist (which can be turned off just like that annoying focus beep) Although both are great cameras, the Nikon edged higher. The used Mark IIIs are already selling for under $3,200 on ebay while the D800 are still on high demand and bringing in premium prices for new & used.
dude you guys really need to start making more videos, your videos are so in depth and just so good, yet you put videos up like every month! MORE VIDEOS!
Although the 5d mark ii is more useful for still photo shooting would it still be better for video film (moving pictures) as well since we dont need instant focusing?
We tried to keep parity as much as possible with 24-70 2.8s and the latest 70-200 2.8s from both companies. In the store we only had a Canon 1.2 50mm so we put that up against the Nikkor AF-s 50mm 1.4. Not the same but close. Most shooting was with the 70-200.
It's taken me a while to get down to this part of the thread. Can you just clear up one other shooting detail with Part 1? Where you shooting in 12bit or 14bit RAW? Great vid. Enjoyed it. Now going to watch 2 & 3. Could REALLY do with clearing out some of the non-related comments here. I would have found this part a LOT faster. Just a suggestion.
I get what you're saying, but what I'm telling you is that the actual hi-res files, without the compression of youtube, there are no blown out hot spots, all of the detail is retained for both cameras. Regardless of how expensive your monitor is, youtube is messing with the highlights and shadows that you see here :)
I use to be a Nikon shooter with D3X, but switched when the Canon 5D MK3 came out, but I'm like the new Nikon D810 or the Nikon D4s, what do you think I should do?
As much as i love watching DigitalRev for a laugh, their not much chop when it comes to proper analysis/comaprisons of cameras. So thanks for being the first team to do it properly .IMAGES, IMAGES is what we want!!...cheers Canucks!
Thanks guys - that was a good balanced comparison. I would agree that overall there's not a great deal of differenec between the two. Either camera is pretty amazing. I own a D800 and appear to have a back focus issue which is being looked at by Nikon right now. That said I trust it will be sorted and I will be delighted with it. You missed out doing a video test between the cameras and that one is an interesting debate too.
I initially exported the video in 1080P, but at such a huge length only the 720P version would meet TH-cam's upload restrictions. I could compress the 1080P version further, but that would sort of defeat the point. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
The light leak issue doesn't actually affect the final exposure, and it also only comes into play when doing super long exposures, which obviously based on a review shooting these cameras in a portrait situation, isn't a factor. So yes, in a portrait situation, they are very comparable cameras.
Shooting at ISO 25,000 (or so) isn't about being able to print at this point, but being able to shoot an image! I'm sure some journalists out there will benefit from it, so that the shot is in the can, but not always in your fashion mag! Having said that, glad to see both cameras at work in realistic situations, as always, great job!
Been waiting for you guys to do a review on the D800 for so long!!! Great vid!!! Fantastic! Even as a big fan of Digitalrev, I mean you guys really rock and are the best at the moment by FAR in providing camera analysis and reviews! Keep up the good work!! Cheers!
i'm so conflicted!!! i was head on buying the mark iii but i dont know if i should buy the d800 now... i already spent around 1k on glass for nikon.. should i just stick with nikon?
If the light leak doesn’t affect the final exposure, there is no problem is it. I think Canon USA should contact you for camera technical issues. Are those comparing portraits should be taken in a studio which uses florescent light or a studio that totally depend on flashes and use controled light?
I have to agree, I generally really like DRtv (used to be in one of their competitions) but CameraStoreTV does a perfect blend between information and humor. Keep it up guys!
Amazing reviews...fantastic work. Definitely the most professionally done comparison review that I have seen so far...looking forward to the next review in this series. By the way...I also think that both are amazing cameras and a giant leap into the future.
You got it Xeno. Our next video in the series is going to focus on action photography and we should have lots of dark shadows and crappy light to deal with. We'll make sure to revisit this topic and push the files hard. Thanks for your input. Chris Niccolls
I could really say whatever I wanted, which is why they asked me to do the video :) There are no repercussions to any opinion that I have, and I'm a Nikon shooter (and actually so is Chris a.k.a. the other guy). Canon just happened to make a really good camera, and I think they are pretty on par with one another. All I can be is honest about it. Cheers
The only thing I would say about the high ISO is that in low light where almost no light is hitting the sensor, the 5D mark 3 is a lot cleaner. I'm saying that from personal experience. However when the scenes are set up with enough lights that there are no total shadows, both are good.
I have heard,read that you have a harder time setting your correct color balance on the Nikon 800 or 800E vs the way Canon makes it so easy to do, and keep the settings saved. Nikon still has that greenish color tint to it's shots compared to the warmer Canon. I'm now just wondering about really the most important aspect-Glass quality. Who do you think has the edge in higher quality glass Canon or Nikon. It appeared that the Canon was easier to use as far as the menu controls????
Yep. Full marks for this vid. Really good. It was quite interesting to hear Nathan's remarks about the two cameras from a portraiture perspective. I have to also say that his images looked SUPERB too. Nice insightful post script from Jordan about the D4 too. A little disappointed to hear about some of the D4's shortcomings. Looking forward to hearing what he has to say about the 5D3.
This is my favorite episode you guys did! Very informative and it was nice to see Jordan infront of the lens this time :) I am glad to know that Canon fixed the focus issue on the latest 5DMKIII.
Ok, coming from someone who owned both 5D MK III and D800, the D800 is absolutely better. Not sure what this studio "photographer" is talking about. I don't understand how he keeps understating the D800 with "slight" differences. "Slightly more detail on the D800" or "Slightly more dynamic range on the D800" the differences are HUGE. The 36.6mp is a HUGE difference, even when zoomed out. The pictures are a lot more crisp, detailed, and sharp on the D800. Than the Dynamic Range is totally a HUGE difference. I couldn't bring up shadows for crap on the Canon. I would get distortion, noise, and little fragments.. so at times I just wouldn't bring up shadows. On the other hand, the D800 brings up shadows so nicely without any issue. This studio photographer is talking non-sense. As for the AF System, the 5D edges the D800 slightly, otherwise, focus speed depends on the lens. The D800 was so awesome, since then I moved up to the D810.
ill shoot ya - No. With the same lens, its as detailed as a 42mp Sony A7R II and 50mp Canon 5DSR, yet, the D810 having better ISO performance and dynamic range while being cheaper which you can spend on better lenses. If you aren't looking for a full-frame lens, the D500 is a great camera. Otherwise D750 is great, D610 is great. But, if you have the choice and money, go for the D810
TH-cam's file size limit wouldn't let me upload a reasonably compressed 1080P version of this ridiculously long video. A decently compressed 720P version is better than a 1080P version with dancing pixels. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Its not zoomed in more, its zoomed in at 100% for both photos based on their resolution. The higher resolution of the D800 makes for a larger image at 100%.
So everyone's busy and I'm... I'm Chris Nichols. Lol.
I used a a Foton Neon Duo camera support. While not a steadicam, it does make using DSLRs for long periods a lot more comfortable and stable.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Yup, I love their Neon Duo support.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
I always shoot with the flattest profiles possible and then grade the images to my liking in software later. There is a type of look I like, so the images look quite similar regardless of what camera I filmed on. I also try and use large sensor cameras, so the depth of field is usually quite similar shoot to shoot.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
This is the best video I've found on these cameras. You really put the cameras through their paces, and the whole time I didn't once feel like I was being pushed either way out of personal bias.
A couple more things, since I just finished watching.
1. What Camera Calibration settings in LR4 did you use for each body?
2. The stairwell shots from both cameras seemed to be far-focused past her face. Was that intentional, or did the cameras miss the target?
Thanks for putting this video up!
John MacLean
Part 1 was all shot RAW, and edited in Lightroom 4. Part 2 used the default JPEG compression, but with Noise Reduction turned off on both cameras. Part 3 was shot on Neutral profiles, with sharpening and contrast turned all the way down.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
We were analysing the images in Lightroom, which zooms into 100%. Because the Nikon files are higher resolution, the comparison tool zooms in more on the Nikon.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Why is this video only mid resolution? The idea of looking at 22MP and 36MP images on a 2MP (1080p) video is not ideal, but what is the MP of 720p video? This is one of the first videos I've seen in years that didn't lag while loading, so it's nice that youtube could finally load it's content on demand.
You're in better hands now! The cameralabs test only analyzed JPEG capture, we looked at RAW quality. Our upcoming second video was shot in JPEG, and from what we've seen, cameralabs seems to be onto something...
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
thanks for the review... any thoughts as to which you guys prefer?
D800 win in most perspective. The only Gear FROM cANON i was interesting In was 5D mark 3.... after deep search it come up that I HAVE TO SHIFT TO D800.
5D mk3 + magic lantern is unbeatable. In fact, any canon with magic lantern is unbeatable.
TheUnPlayable without that so-called magic lantern?
Albadani Moe Photography It comes down to personal needs and what you do. I prefer the Canon for focusing speed and accuracy and colour of skin tones. Interstingly enough, neither of the cameras in this particular test impressed me for image quality. When the first RAW portraits were shown I felt they were soft. I have taken noticeably sharper images on a crappy 1200D with an 85mm f/1.8 lens in outdoor soft light (shade), hand-held, and I am not kidding. Admittedly, we are probably losing a lot of the quality of the test images by way of viewing them in a video.
That's the nicest thing anyone on TH-cam has ever said to us!
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
A very good comparison. The high quality of the studio work gives credibility to the entire review.
Now, THIS is how a comparative review is done. Kudos, guys.
Great review, well done, 10years on just purchased a secondhand D800
omg, you guys have the best review! im tired of looking for picture quality tests and running into videos that take pictures of circles and building windows. i understand they want to show the sharpness, but i want to be able to see how they translate with glamour and portraits.
What you really need to do is test the cameras yourself. Canon and Nikon cameras produce excellent images and no one will know which camera took which shot when you mix them up and drop them on a table. Therefore, the critical decider as to which camera to buy is which feels better in YOUR hands, which is the fastest and most logical to operate for how YOU think, which focuses fastest and most accurately, which offers the best number of lenses for YOUR needs, etc. The guys in this video are very Nikon biased and it comes across in every video they make. I take people's opinions with a grain of salt as a Canon fan will try to sell you on Canon and a Nikon fan will try to sell you on Nikon.
For straight out image quality you can do a search on the net along the lines of "Nikon D800 sample images" and then "Canon 5D Mark 3 sample images" and look at many different sites for each camera. You shouldn't find much difference, if any, as both camera produce excellent images. Look especially at images of people as faces seem to show quality differences more than almost any other subject. Busy scenes, such as brick buildings, city scenes and fields of flowers look good on even a cheap compact camera, but human faces separate the toys from the real cameras. The overall feel and handling is what matters most.
Are the studio shots with the same exposure? One thing I learned from my professor was how Nikon (perhaps the other companies too) underexpose the image by telling you you're at middle grey sooner so the highlights don't blow out. re Are they reading two different exposures? Last, did you just use a handheld meter?
Finally! Someone has elevated the level of discourse!
I'll agree 100% with this. I do plan on shooting in a much more high contrast situation to get a true feel for the DR.
Only your UK trip includes a stopover in the Great White North.. We're based in sunny Calgary, Canada.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Thanks for taking the time to put this together, well done gentlemen !!
The 5D Mark III is a better video camera than the Mk II as you gain a headphone jack, improved audio pre-amp, an option for lower compression, and a 720/60P mode. See part 3 of this series for more detailed information.
Jordan @ The Cameras Store TV
Great comparison of the two cameras. Clearly a lot of effort went into finding the pros and cons of both.
Sorry I'm not sure what you're asking...
The photos in this test were shot under both controlled lighting (in studio) as well as florescent lighting (in parking garage).
I haven't shot a project on the D800 yet. The upcoming D800 vs 5D III shootout will have my full review though.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
I'm enjoying these reviews Chris!. They're very in-depth and thorough giving us a clearer picture of the product. Subscribed!
Chris, I wish could provide a link to you guys about pulling out shadows out of dark areas on both cameras. I'm sure you will find the 5dmkIII to show a lot more color casts when doing so.
How did you process the Canon raw files. There are noted issues with the software Canon provided. The software is heavily softening the images though there are several methods to get around this. You may need to revisit these with Lightroom 4.1 with Canon support depending on what you used.
Its the manfrotto 804RC2 and I prefer to be able to control my up/down and side-to-side movements independently as opposed to a ball head that just moves all over the place.
The light leak issue is insanely minor. If you are doing very long exposures in pitch black situations it will effect exposure. I think the D800 and 5D III should be compared as they are the current entry level full-frame DSLRs from the two largest producers.
The D800 has its issues as well. Trust me, I'll bring them up in part 3.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Great review. BTW the focus hunting issue has been resolved with the latest firmware update on the D800/E.
What about the $500 price difference? and the fact that the D800 has built in flash with commander mode plus focus assist (which can be turned off just like that annoying focus beep)
Although both are great cameras, the Nikon edged higher.
The used Mark IIIs are already selling for under $3,200 on ebay while the D800 are still on high demand and bringing in premium prices for new & used.
dude you guys really need to start making more videos, your videos are so in depth and just so good, yet you put videos up like every month! MORE VIDEOS!
Although the 5d mark ii is more useful for still photo shooting would it still be better for video film (moving pictures) as well since we dont need instant focusing?
We tried to keep parity as much as possible with 24-70 2.8s and the latest 70-200 2.8s from both companies. In the store we only had a Canon 1.2 50mm so we put that up against the Nikkor AF-s 50mm 1.4. Not the same but close. Most shooting was with the 70-200.
It's taken me a while to get down to this part of the thread. Can you just clear up one other shooting detail with Part 1? Where you shooting in 12bit or 14bit RAW?
Great vid. Enjoyed it. Now going to watch 2 & 3. Could REALLY do with clearing out some of the non-related comments here. I would have found this part a LOT faster. Just a suggestion.
Surely we should be looking at the respective lens quality and differences used?
I get what you're saying, but what I'm telling you is that the actual hi-res files, without the compression of youtube, there are no blown out hot spots, all of the detail is retained for both cameras. Regardless of how expensive your monitor is, youtube is messing with the highlights and shadows that you see here :)
Nikkor 24mm F1.4. Most of the filming in the studio was with this lens.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
No this video was filmed at 30 fps, the smooth movement comes from shooting at a natural 1/60th second shutter speed.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Thank you very much Jordan...
Thanks for the great comparison. The best that I've seen till now!
Can't wait to see the next two! Keep up the great work.
Cheers!
Great review so far, guys. Looking forward to the other 2 videos!
I use to be a Nikon shooter with D3X, but switched when the Canon 5D MK3 came out, but I'm like the new Nikon D810 or the Nikon D4s, what do you think I should do?
that's a lot of money going back and forth my friend, i suggest you wait for the D850
Hey Jordan,
I heard the D4 also has a 1.2 crop (and as does the D800), did you manage to see that in the settings?
As much as i love watching DigitalRev for a laugh, their not much chop when it comes to proper analysis/comaprisons of cameras. So thanks for being the first team to do it properly .IMAGES, IMAGES is what we want!!...cheers Canucks!
great job guys, this really breaks down both the strengths and weakness of the cameras, and the bonus video review of d4 is great!!! Awesome!
Thanks guys - that was a good balanced comparison. I would agree that overall there's not a great deal of differenec between the two. Either camera is pretty amazing. I own a D800 and appear to have a back focus issue which is being looked at by Nikon right now. That said I trust it will be sorted and I will be delighted with it. You missed out doing a video test between the cameras and that one is an interesting debate too.
looking forward to the video test...nicely done w/ this comparison.
at your store, do you give lessons on how to take good photos and how to use an set up camera for your advantages
I initially exported the video in 1080P, but at such a huge length only the 720P version would meet TH-cam's upload restrictions. I could compress the 1080P version further, but that would sort of defeat the point.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Interesting, Thank you Nathan. Wonderful work on this video and in your portfolio. Truly enjoyed them both.
are some of the files shot available for download somewhere?
really nice comparison, thanks!
The light leak issue doesn't actually affect the final exposure, and it also only comes into play when doing super long exposures, which obviously based on a review shooting these cameras in a portrait situation, isn't a factor. So yes, in a portrait situation, they are very comparable cameras.
Shooting at ISO 25,000 (or so) isn't about being able to print at this point, but being able to shoot an image! I'm sure some journalists out there will benefit from it, so that the shot is in the can, but not always in your fashion mag!
Having said that, glad to see both cameras at work in realistic situations, as always, great job!
Best comparison video, can't wait to see part 2 and 3.
Excellent video guys. The pacing (editing) is just right. Congrats.
When will you guys be posting the follow up video? I'm dying to watch it!
The model is like" WTF!!! what about me? At 7:56 So right now we just lost stereo sound...lol
I would love to see a similar video on the D800 vs D600 and maybe vs 5Dmk3 (I think we can leave the 6D out of it, right?)
Nikon d800 Excellent
What kind of lens you've used during shooting in studio? The photos' quality depends a lot on lens models
Been waiting for you guys to do a review on the D800 for so long!!! Great vid!!! Fantastic! Even as a big fan of Digitalrev, I mean you guys really rock and are the best at the moment by FAR in providing camera analysis and reviews! Keep up the good work!! Cheers!
i'm so conflicted!!! i was head on buying the mark iii but i dont know if i should buy the d800 now... i already spent around 1k on glass for nikon.. should i just stick with nikon?
was this video shot in 60 fps, looks so smooth...
If the light leak doesn’t affect the final exposure, there is no problem is it. I think Canon USA should contact you for camera technical issues. Are those comparing portraits should be taken in a studio which uses florescent light or a studio that totally depend on flashes and use controled light?
Thanks Guys!
Great Video, What tripod head was Nathan Using ? Why not a Ball head ?
I have to agree, I generally really like DRtv (used to be in one of their competitions) but CameraStoreTV does a perfect blend between information and humor. Keep it up guys!
Hey Jordan have you tested the D800 for video ? is the D4 the same as the D800 ?
Can we see the raw files?
Also, please do a portrait shooting outdoor so we can see the details
Thanks for this great review
Thank you for the tip, and will probably buy Nikon D800E soon :)
Amazing reviews...fantastic work. Definitely the most professionally done comparison review that I have seen so far...looking forward to the next review in this series.
By the way...I also think that both are amazing cameras and a giant leap into the future.
Thanks guys for this amazing video/review. Totally awesome, love to hear non-biased perspectives and down to Earth attitude. Great job.
You got it Xeno. Our next video in the series is going to focus on action photography and we should have lots of dark shadows and crappy light to deal with. We'll make sure to revisit this topic and push the files hard. Thanks for your input.
Chris Niccolls
Just google 'Nathan Elson switch' and his detailed blog entry will show up. Message me if you need the link.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Images were imported directly into LR 4.1. No other software was used before viewing the RAW files, and no adjustments were made.
I could really say whatever I wanted, which is why they asked me to do the video :) There are no repercussions to any opinion that I have, and I'm a Nikon shooter (and actually so is Chris a.k.a. the other guy). Canon just happened to make a really good camera, and I think they are pretty on par with one another. All I can be is honest about it.
Cheers
I'm bad at my job. It was a sound mixing issue.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
About the D4 power. Around how many min of video did you shoot before the D4 power run out?
The only thing I would say about the high ISO is that in low light where almost no light is hitting the sensor, the 5D mark 3 is a lot cleaner. I'm saying that from personal experience. However when the scenes are set up with enough lights that there are no total shadows, both are good.
I have heard,read that you have a harder time setting your correct color balance on the Nikon 800 or 800E vs the way Canon makes it so easy to do, and keep the settings saved. Nikon still has that greenish color tint to it's shots compared to the warmer Canon. I'm now just wondering about really the most important aspect-Glass quality. Who do you think has the edge in higher quality glass Canon or Nikon. It appeared that the Canon was easier to use as far as the menu controls????
Yep. Full marks for this vid. Really good. It was quite interesting to hear Nathan's remarks about the two cameras from a portraiture perspective. I have to also say that his images looked SUPERB too.
Nice insightful post script from Jordan about the D4 too. A little disappointed to hear about some of the D4's shortcomings. Looking forward to hearing what he has to say about the 5D3.
Use the camera with what you started from very beginning nikon and canon are both great companies,i use nikon and i will stay with it,i love it!
This is my favorite episode you guys did! Very informative and it was nice to see Jordan infront of the lens this time :)
I am glad to know that Canon fixed the focus issue on the latest 5DMKIII.
Please continue filming with D4. Low light shot was amazing with D4, can't get those types of shot with D800.
I've been using the 'Paul Simon: Kodachrome' excuse for years now! Chris will address this staggering controversy soon!
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Ok, coming from someone who owned both 5D MK III and D800, the D800 is absolutely better. Not sure what this studio "photographer" is talking about. I don't understand how he keeps understating the D800 with "slight" differences. "Slightly more detail on the D800" or "Slightly more dynamic range on the D800" the differences are HUGE. The 36.6mp is a HUGE difference, even when zoomed out. The pictures are a lot more crisp, detailed, and sharp on the D800. Than the Dynamic Range is totally a HUGE difference. I couldn't bring up shadows for crap on the Canon. I would get distortion, noise, and little fragments.. so at times I just wouldn't bring up shadows. On the other hand, the D800 brings up shadows so nicely without any issue. This studio photographer is talking non-sense. As for the AF System, the 5D edges the D800 slightly, otherwise, focus speed depends on the lens. The D800 was so awesome, since then I moved up to the D810.
Which one is the best nikon d810 or d800?
ill shoot ya - D810 is hands and feet above the D800. Better sensor. Better detail. MUCH better noise, video, dynamic range, ISO and so on.
+It's Zero Hour you mean I should buy nikon d810 but is there any good camera like nikon d810?
ill shoot ya - No. With the same lens, its as detailed as a 42mp Sony A7R II and 50mp Canon 5DSR, yet, the D810 having better ISO performance and dynamic range while being cheaper which you can spend on better lenses.
If you aren't looking for a full-frame lens, the D500 is a great camera. Otherwise D750 is great, D610 is great. But, if you have the choice and money, go for the D810
Guys, you have just kicked DigitalRev, Jared Polin, Dombower in the nuts with this video. Very awesome.
nice...i've been waiting for a review like this...with real life usage...i'll be looking forward to the next couple of videos.
Lol @ "Everybody's working really hard. I'm uhhh.. Well I'm Chris Nicols." Idk why but that made me laugh.
All Nathan's shot were captured in RAW.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
TH-cam's file size limit wouldn't let me upload a reasonably compressed 1080P version of this ridiculously long video. A decently compressed 720P version is better than a 1080P version with dancing pixels.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Best comparison I've seen so far. Thank you guys - I ended up to subscribe.
Its not zoomed in more, its zoomed in at 100% for both photos based on their resolution. The higher resolution of the D800 makes for a larger image at 100%.
very nice and insightful ... no bias honestly
thank you guys for this video and all of them really detailed and perplexed information that draws me to your videos :)
ILL BE WAITING FOR THE PART 3 .. THANKS A LOT FOR THIS INFORMATIONAL VIDEO.. 2 THUMBS UP
I totally see it.
great video... waited for you to make new videos.. love reviews.. really good to watch and informative :)