Do's And Don't Of BCD Service - Scuba Tech Tips: S09E17

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  • @TheLoosenit2
    @TheLoosenit2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the life of a BCD, 5-6 years as you describe it, is a powerful argument for using a modular Backplate and Wing (BP/W) BCD so that you can replace parts of it at much lower cost, rather than buying a whole new BCD.

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A decent BCD given regular care will last a long time. Many divers simply replace them every 5-6 years. Others use the same one for twice as long (or more).
      Alec

  • @davidtorcello3765
    @davidtorcello3765 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You Sir deserve a Knighthood... for services to the scuba industry

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sir Alec. Sounds pretty neat. My dad and grandad from Kent, UK would be proud.
      But I'm no hero. Just an old guy with lots of scuba experience who refuses to grow old quietly.
      Thanks.
      Alec

  • @hannahcater8088
    @hannahcater8088 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your workspace is beautifully organized...I have been working on keeping mine that way... It stays clean for maybe half a day!

  • @ernestocritzmann8927
    @ernestocritzmann8927 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a really good tip, Alec! Hurry to my lathe and machining a tap adapter for BOTH inflator hose and Power inflator rinsing. You are a Master!

  • @KimonFrousios
    @KimonFrousios 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alternatively, fill the BCD bladder with water, hang it upside down and let the water drain through the inflator instead of through the mouthpiece. You can hug and squeeze the BCD for a extra pressure.

    • @alaind831
      @alaind831 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's what I do... much cheaper and you don't need another part you will forget, and a hose...

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That'll work.
      It just takes extra time for the water to run out through the air inlet spigot. Be sure to work the inflate button as you do this so all the parts get rinsed.
      Alec

  • @johnthomas2070
    @johnthomas2070 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another awesome video Alec

  • @searcaig
    @searcaig 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The K-shape inflator valves are fairly easy to disassemble, clean and rebuild.
    I do like that flush hose idea and I think that I'll be arranging one soon.
    Thanks for the tip :-)

  • @seikibrian8641
    @seikibrian8641 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a coincidence; I just bought an Innovative Scuba Concepts BC Flush at my LDS yesterday, in preparation for some summer diving trips; it looks exactly like the one shown in your video. I always soak my BC in my bathtub after a dive, and I push all the buttons and pull all the dump toggles, but this "power flush" device will be much more thorough and much more efficient.

  • @jackdiamonds8734
    @jackdiamonds8734 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been watching your videos for a long time by now, I've learned a lot from you.
    Thank you Alec for all the effort and time you put into these videos!

  • @Teampegleg
    @Teampegleg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The tech shop I deal with is of the opinion that K inflaters are so cheap, and they are so critical that they don't malfunction that they advocate just replacing the inflater rather than attempting to service them. Though they will gladly sell you the disassembly tool for those that want to service them.

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's today's modern way of thinking and, assuming you have the resources to live that way, go for it.
      A decent BCD given regular care will last forever.
      Complete service to like-new condition usually involves rinsing, greasing and installing new O-Rings or maybe a Schrader valve. Less than $20 with parts.
      Alec

    • @Teampegleg
      @Teampegleg 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter At $17 for a new one, it is hard to argue with their logic.

  • @DanBowkley
    @DanBowkley 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my favorite features of Zeagle BCs is the garden hose thread on the end of the inflator hose. The actual PIV just screws on. Makes it easy to upgrade to an integrated octo too.
    I actually retrofit my old Zeagle Ranger, which is close to 20 years old, with the new style hose end. Heck, you can get the parts for under $20 and retrofit basically any BC if you like. Definitely recommend.

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right. I forgot to mention that some Zeagle BCDs have the garden hose fitting for rinsing built-in.
      A great idea.
      Alec

    • @marcin.j.wasiak
      @marcin.j.wasiak 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great idea! I found out than even the shower head hose with head unscrewed can be effectively used to rinse BCD - you just need to keep it connected to the inflator nipple with one hand and use other hand to press inflation button to let water flow inside. When not available, i rinse BCD using inflator dump valve - than letting water out via inflation port (pressing inflation button when keeping BCD upside down). So far both methods worked for me. Not doing that may result in salt buildup and as a result leaky inflation valve - uncontrolled ascent if not paying attention to the fact your BCD is slowly filling up...

  • @markstengel7680
    @markstengel7680 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Alec, Watched and great tip. Wish you a relaxing weekend and Kevin your cameraman. Be well 👍

  • @BARMSTR41
    @BARMSTR41 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never mind. I’m a a dumb engineer. My compass is on a self contained reel with a small METAL braided wire. Well if I don’t extend the reel, the compass readings are off. So my dry land exercises uncovered an otherwise unknown (to me) fault condition. Thanks again Alec.

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good sleuthing.
      Magnetic clips, carabiners, cables, even Safe Seconds can combine to mess up a compass.
      The old method of holding the compass at arm's length in both hands might help.
      Alec

  • @pricediver
    @pricediver 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Vid again ! I usually just run fresh water through the inflator hose and do it a couple times, I feel like it should help a lot

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's good but little if any of that water gets into the inflate valve.
      Next time be sure to push the inflate button repeatedly as your rinse. That should help.
      Take care.
      Alec

  • @sayittrue9570
    @sayittrue9570 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought one of those flush hoses last year..a good investment along with bcd cleaner.i flush water in then some cleaner shake about for a few minutes then flush through again with fresh water.itry and keep some air in it whilst flushing the water out..via each dump valve in turn.

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm guessing your BCD will give you many years of solid service.
      Good work.
      Alec

  • @msw5224
    @msw5224 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome info,Thank You...

  • @MultiHunterOne
    @MultiHunterOne 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before you try flushing water through the inflate valve you should definitely consult the user manual. Some manufacturers like XDEEP say specifically to avoid pressing the inflate valve when flushing out the inside of the BC to avoid water ingress into the valve and possible damage.

  • @markstengel7680
    @markstengel7680 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Alec, Some hiw i missed this episode. Enjoyed👍

  • @CUCABURRAAustralia
    @CUCABURRAAustralia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Inflator is usually a very long lasting piece of dive gear. The thread on the bladder to which it connects is not. And when it cracks - the whole bcd goes to dustbin :( But still a nice video.

    • @ts440s
      @ts440s 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's why you get a modular back inflate system, just replace wings check out HOG.

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you are concerned about your ability to remove and replace that fitting, take it to a dive shop. That's what they are there for.
      This should only be done once or twice a year depending on your dive frequency. It's not a daily thing.
      A good BCD with decent care will last for years.
      Take care.
      Alec

  • @dredd183
    @dredd183 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice tip

  • @BigJoe4189
    @BigJoe4189 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Alec👍🏼

  • @joshuawade8319
    @joshuawade8319 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alec, thanks for another great tip, but it leads me to another question: I have a purge valve located on the end of my BCD hose where it screws into my bladder. I never use that valve while diving, just invert my inflator hose and release air that way, or use the valve on my right shoulder or at the bottom of the BCD. I just don't find using that inflator hose dump valve intuitive. The only time I use that valve is when I'm rinsing out the BCD after a dive. However, trying to hold the BCD upside down and pull on that hose to flush it with fresh water is a real hassle. On top of that, I'm heavy handed and I'm afraid I'm going to inadvertently pull the inflator hose off and strip the threads in the process. Would it be safe to replace that hose and/or inflator with one that just had an elbow, like the one you are holding in this video, or are there benefits to that third dump valve that I'm not aware of? Best, Josh.

  • @JamesMilanese123
    @JamesMilanese123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Couldn't this become a problem if your home is fed by well water? Mine is and we have a lot of minerals and a ton of sulfur in the water even after going through an industrial filter and softener.

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still better than saltwater James. But maybe you can find a source of better water occasionally for an extra rinse, like when you are storing the BCD for a while.
      Alec

  • @ScubaGirl68
    @ScubaGirl68 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are a number of issues to do with water getting into your BCD. From memory in another tech tip, you did mention about how water gets in and how in most cases it isn't preventable, so we'll all need to be aware of this at some stage.
    Any water we dive in isn't sterile. Whether it's from a quarry, lake or the open sea, there are impurities. Left alone in the BCD, even when drained, those impurities can include biological things that can grow in the damp air.
    Washing fairly frequently with fresh water, as shown in this video, will help to prevent any growth. However, you may also need to use some detergent to kill off any biological growth.
    Any such growth can be harmful to the BCD and/or the diver.
    After rinsing the BCD please *DO* inflate the BCD with air and allow any water to settle near a drain, empty it and repeat. Somehow give the BCD an opportunity to dry on the inside too.

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All quite true girl.
      McNett has a product called BC Life that apparently sanitizes and preserves the vinyl liner.
      1 or 2 drops of Javex would sanitize as you rinse it.
      Alec

  • @aragornthepony
    @aragornthepony 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Alec! How about soak the valveassembly in some mild descaling agent solution from time to time? Bad for the o-rings/plastics? Thanks for another great video!

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use CLR for removing white salt, green corrosion or organic scale.
      It works well and doesn't seem to affect plastic or rubber.
      If you rinse regularly both inside and out, you won't have any such build-up.
      Alec

  • @offwegrow5833
    @offwegrow5833 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tip!

  • @ts440s
    @ts440s 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HOG TCBS BCD $449.00 all modular, something wears out just replace it. Companies make complete units because they know something will fail or wear out, simple as a bladder puncture your now buying a new BCD.

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Worth considering of course but regular care of a BCD will ensure many years of service.
      Alec

  • @yossiargaman5588
    @yossiargaman5588 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Alec, i like your youtube channel and i learn a lot! I would like to ask you a question about beuchat inflator how can i do it? Thanks! Yossi

  • @arixp9092
    @arixp9092 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like I may have gotten a deal of a life time. I bought a zeagle ranger bcd for 100$ it’s in really good condition. If I’m not mistaken it’s 800 or 700$ brand new.

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zeagles are nice back inflate BC's. Test it before diving by orally inflating then leave it for a few hours to test that it holds air OK (no big air loss).

    • @arixp9092
      @arixp9092 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alec Peirce Scuba Will do thank you.

  • @mystkittsdivebuddy
    @mystkittsdivebuddy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my opinion, Scuba manufacturers make inflator valves unnecessarily complicated.
    The simple K inflator on my sidemount rig has very few parts and is easily disassembled. I have the "tool" but a pair of circlip pliers will do it. Then again for about 15$ I can fit a new one.
    My Scubapro BCD inflator (like so many others) has so many parts that you really need to be experienced to tackle it.

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The number of parts is a function of design and safety (backups). Having serviced about a hundred different reg models over 50+ years, they have the same basic parts for piston (very few) and diaphragm. It's the marketing extras that add complexity like auto closing 1st stage. Very few recreational divers know or really care about what's inside as long as their LDS services it properly, they have fun. It is great that you can service your own gear but if anything goes wrong, who gets the blame? Anyway thanks for sharing as safe diving my friend.
      A

  • @ts440s
    @ts440s 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you put a link to products mentioned. Thanks.

  • @chiranagheorghitaeugeniuth98
    @chiranagheorghitaeugeniuth98 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alec I recently needed one of my reg sets to be oxy cleaned. I have a great tech guy who I trust who is doing the job. Only question I had for him is how he cleans the SPG to be oxy clean. He said that is a secret well guarded. Can you enlighten me about the process... I am just curious

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm afraid that I have some bad news for you. There's a reason why it's a "secret well guarded". It can't be done!
      1. the SPG does not have to be oxy clean. EANx does not flow through it.
      2. There is no way to open and clean an SPG.
      I have been servicing Nitrox scuba gear for over 20 years and never heard of anyone charging for an SPG oxy cleaning service. It can't be done. It IS possible to change the tiny O-Rings on the swivel pin to an O2 compatible style. It's NOT Necessary and if done might cost $10.
      Alec

  • @BARMSTR41
    @BARMSTR41 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love all the videos Alec. Thank you. I’m working thru all of them and apologize if you’ve already covered this but I have a dive compass that doesn’t point north any longer. Fluid still in there, no phone or metal nearby (tried several locations) but the needle moves a bit but will generally show north toward any random direction. Could I have damaged it via proximity to magnetic source or impact (don’t recall dropping it)? Is this common? Thanks again.

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Compasses for scuba diving are notoriously bad. They don't like off-camber reading, they are cheaply made and certainly never give precise readings.
      On land, changes in a heading of less than 5 degrees are easily possible. Underwater, you are basically limited to perhaps 8 compass points.
      Fortunately, a dive compass is used to find a shoreline or maybe get you close to your boat. Great precision is not critical.
      Even if you had a very good, well-made and accurate compass, I think you'd find it disappointing underwater.
      Alec

  • @AndersonPinheiro-t4v
    @AndersonPinheiro-t4v 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Alec. Thank you so much for your content! I got a flush hose like the one shown in the video, but it didn’t fit on the connection of the inflator hose. Aren’t those connections supposed to be universal? I have a pretty regular Mares Icon BCD. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Best regards from Brazil!

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Low Pressure Inflator connector should be universal BUT, some manufacturers have a proprietary shape/size so that may be why it's not snapping on. Try connecting the flush hose LPI to non-Mares BC's to see if it connects to different makes. If it connects to other BCs, either the LPI connection on your BC is different or many push harder. Hope this helps sir.

    • @AndersonPinheiro-t4v
      @AndersonPinheiro-t4v 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter thank you for the reply!

  • @captainpanda5533
    @captainpanda5533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How often would you recommend flushing out the PIV? After every dive?

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It should be part of every post dive washing as a stuck PIV on a dive would be a bad thing.
      Alec

    • @captainpanda5533
      @captainpanda5533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter Thank you, sir!

  • @Koopa3d
    @Koopa3d 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Alec! Big fan of your channel for a few years now. Do you think flushing the BCD if you have hard water can have a negative impact on the inside the BCD/PIV? I'm sure it's better than salt water but can hard water be bad on it too?

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well hard/fresh water is much better than salt water. Rinse after each dive and use a BCD cleaner once a year to really clean the insides. Thanks for watching Michael.

    • @1997LT1Camaro
      @1997LT1Camaro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also keeping it out of a hot garage and slightly inflated is good practice as well. It prevents the inner tube walls from bonding together.

  • @joras7457
    @joras7457 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do they say avoid pressing inflate button when flushing for the button sake ,or so bcd won’t fill with water? should you flush air bladder with water?

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is recommended to rinse the inflator and air cells after each dive. Look for my video on BCD washing and care of inflator valves to see how best to do it and prevent sticking valves.
      A

    • @joras7457
      @joras7457 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter thank you for all your help ,and helpful videos! 😎👍🏻

  • @johnreiten6473
    @johnreiten6473 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the life expectancy of scuba gear in freshwater significantly longer than saltwater?

    • @dlent1
      @dlent1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes and No. If you properly rinse your gear after saltwater dives, your gear won't be damaged by it. After freshwater dives, you don't really need to rinse it.

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even after freshwater you might rinse the regulator 2nd stage for sure. I have opened some 2nd stages for service and found them disgustingly cruddy.
      Alec

  • @alaind831
    @alaind831 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    5-6 years for a BCD ? ouch... the used one I have have at least 2x that time and work just fine... fresh water rinsing gear is the trick for all the parts, and good storage.

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh yeah! With a bit of care, a BCD could easily last 10 years or a lot more.
      However, it might begin to look a bit worn by then.
      Take care Alain.
      Alec

    • @jackdiamonds8734
      @jackdiamonds8734 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter The worn out look is the best look in my opinion

    • @alaind831
      @alaind831 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah you should see how faded my blue BCD is... proud of it! that means I use it (or left it in the sun like an idiot :)

    • @thomastuorto9929
      @thomastuorto9929 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter I have a Dacor that's over 20 years old. It doesn't get used as much as it should.

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No scuba regulator gets used as much as it should!!
      Alec

  • @hectorfernandez4640
    @hectorfernandez4640 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to know is the Seac BC is out off market because one lady when I went to bought this Bc Seac pro 1000 she told me that people don't like any more don't buy any more this mark that's true or no?

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not familiar with SEAC but they still have a website and they still advertise although their products are very limited.
      Alec

  • @andreasf9
    @andreasf9 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn’t it cause rust inside the mechanism though?

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The inside of the PIV are make to handle salt water and other gunk. Rust is much less of a problem than a sticking valve or plain old dirt.

  • @BigJoe4189
    @BigJoe4189 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just watched a video on U tube tank explode underwater, why is that? Also I just bought a new tank , I totally emptied the air out , leaving the valve opened , shall I test it again if the tank is in storage for a least a month. Thanks

    • @KimonFrousios
      @KimonFrousios 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Never let all the pressure out of a tank. Without pressure in the tank, humidity and dirt can get in. The tank must be inspected each time it is left without pressure, even if it was for just seconds. You left the tank open for over a month, seriously what were you thinking? Don't they teach that in scuba certifications anymore?

    • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
      @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is very little in an introductory scuba course about gear maintenance. That is what dive stores are for today.
      However, you are quite right. A scuba tank should never be emptied entirely. When empty, it's possible for dirt or moisture to enter the tank. Normally a dive shop will insist on a visual examination, for a fee, if you take an empty tank in for an air fill.
      Keep at least 100psi in the tank while it's in storage. I have made several videos about this.
      Alec

    • @BigJoe4189
      @BigJoe4189 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alec Peirce Scuba
      Thanks very much Mr Peirce, reason I asked I am moving abroad, I put my tank in an ISO Container a sea freight, completely empty with valve open but I put in a seal tight container, just curious & on safety side the tank can explode. I am aware of tank not to be completely emptied. I just bought it , still brand new. Thanks