There are many statues and memorials in British cities about the Boer War and "service in South Africa" - you can see it really meant something at the time. I am sure I am not alone in saying I know very little about it and this was a great introduction.
I’m afraid you have your facts wrong on the aftermath of the surrender in the Brandwater Basin - some Boers could go home, but thousands were taken as POW’s to Ceylon and other places across the globe. Also, regarding the concentration camps being for Boer “refugees” - I find it remarkable that the argument is still put forward to tone down that atrocity by using the term “refugee” … rather misleading as its not like Boer woman and children fled the republics across international borders - they were captured within the republics and imprisoned. NOT in “refugee” camps, that would imply some sort of voluntary action on their sides, which simply was not the case for the most part.
My grandmothers father died in Potchefstroom in 1890 with the Cape Town Highlanders. My grandfather and his brorther in law both joined the 29th Imperial Yeomanry. Fortunately gramps made it out alive but his brother in law died in 1900.
So good to learn more about this as my great great grandfather was in the conflict. Anyone know how I can find out more information about him? He was in the Royal Scots Guards. That, and his name, are all I have.
The library in the central Freemason's Lodge in London gives you access to a lot of ancestry databases that you normally have to pay for (or it did when I went before Covid).
The boers knew how to shoot at long range unlike poor Tommy Atkins who had very little training . I heard the boers were dissapointed that the brits didn't wear red with the white cross straps x marks the spot type of mentality
Wrong, the diamonds were in Kimberley which was occupied by the British in response. The crown jewels include the Cullinham diamond that was taken by the British. Wrong, gold provided riches in the Transvaal, not the Orange Freestate. Wrong, there is no evidence that I know of that included a preemptive attack by the FARMERS. Ok, you've exercised the name (not word), Boer, which is considered highly offensive if spoken by you. Back it up a bit (you can learn about it by looking at SA today). Language of old Dutch? You should look south of Holland. 5:43 Typical Boer fighters. Or did you mean mean Afrikaans farmers? I'm not going to watch your video any further, it's misinformation. Parting though, go research how the Commandos of WW2 got to be called Commandoes.
The second Boer war, after the peace of the first Boer war gold was found under the 'farmer's republic ' and the City of London and it's investors wanted it. The second (Great) Boer war was pure exploitation.
Please the Boers did not fight a 'Guerrilla' war! In the early stages we fought set battles Won 87% of these until our artillery ammunition ran out and the english empire pumped in hundreds of thousands of soldiers and millions of tons of materials. Guerrilla warfare was used by the Spanish in the Napoleonic wars to snipe at the French. As general Christian de Wet stated "If we were gorrillas, the gorrilas made a mockery of english military superiority"! General de Wet formulated 'Kommando Warfare' and our Fore fathers then used it!
Well said. A half a million brits and their colonial forces to fight no more than 33 to 40 thousand Boer FARMERS available at anytime, untrained, undiciplined, self supplied and without logistics. As well as hiring, mounting, arming and suppling blacks, then including themselves raided Boer farms while the men were away fighting. Blacks were also used to man the 8000 block houses accross the country to prevent the Cape Kommandos joing the Transvaall and OFS Kommandos, for if they were able to, Brits would have lost their in anycase pyhrric war. What Ukrainians are enduring now, the Boers endured more for over THREE years, WITHOUT assistance. Very little from France and Germany. In spite of no support, lack of arms and ammunition, Boers fought on. Only the genocide of Boer Elderly, women and children in Brit extermination camps along with the scorched earth policy, brought the Boers to the negotiating table. The same was handed to a conservatively estimated 40 thousand loyal black farm workers who did no more than refuse to take up arms against their employer. They too were murdered in SEPERATE "APARTHEID" camps. Let us not forget this was the second Boer war. In the first the Brits were soundly whipped in eight encounters and battles even with superior arms and trained troop. Brits spent the next twenty years bringing together the biggest force ever used to date for the second Boer war. Attempted white washing will never dimish the savage, brutal and inhumane Brit actions at great cost to themselves financially, while hundreds of thousands of their own were dying on the streets of their cities homeless from exposure, hyperthermia, startvation and utter dejection.
Once the sieges were over and the blockhoused went up and the land clearance policy was in effect the boers had no choice but to start guerrilla tactics , I have visited several battle sites in sa including modder river spion kop and colenso to name but a few
@@peterrooke5336 I had two Boer Grandfathers and a string of great Uncles in the Boer war. I have visited all the battlefields numerous times, camped there, and did some army training alongside a few. I note your fancy words "land clearance policy", no, you mean scorched earth policy. You also forgot to mention that brits paid, armed, mounted and supplied renegrade blacks to attack Boer farms where there were defenceless women, children and elderly alone. Assaulted, raped and murdered them. Then marched them to, not as most say "concentration camps" but extermination camps! Brit patrols did the same. In addition ordered scum like Aussie Morant and his ilk also to do likewise. Blockhouses, brits built 8,000 accross the country to prevent Cape Kommandos to join the fray which would have resluted in a utter defeat for you just as in the first Boer war. All that for almost a half a million men of the bragged about most modern army in the world, with endless supplies and logistics to fight, at best fifty thousand untrained, poorly armed FARMERS with no logistics!!! They were not guerilla's. They were fighters that you could only dream about, that you never, ever in your history came near to being, nor ever could come close to. Boers suffered for more than three years far worse than Ukraine is presently suffering. Far greater odds and without foreign aidm, support and weapons to speak of.
En die donners het vergeet ons Boere Volk is krygers vir Jesus en ons was net 19000 teen 'n oormag van 550000 britse soldate en ons het hulle nog steeds opgedonner. Die engelse generaal kitchinger & roberts by einde 1901 het besef dat hulle ons Boere Volk krygers nooit sou wen nie, toe het hulle, hulle scorched earth policy begin. Terwyl ons boere krygers op die oorlogsveld op verskeie fronte geveg het onwetende dat die engelse lafaards ons vrouens, kinders, oupas, oumas, plaas werkers en plaasdiere kom aanval het op ons plase, ons vrouens en kinders verkrag het, ons oupas en oumas mishandel het, ons plaas werkers aangerand het, ons plaas diere wreed dood gemaak het, ons besittings geplunder het, ons plaas huise opstalle en plaas skure opsetlik afgebrand het, ons plaas grond afgebrand het vir etlike myle, ons vrouens, kinders, oupas, oumas, plaaswerkers weggevoer het in ballingskap vir honderde kilometers per voet, op oop trein trokke opgejaag het en na 186 make shift konsentrasie kampe gevat wat eers net hakkies draad omgespan gehad het in die ope veld. In die konsentrasie kampe het hulle ons Boere Volk msnse opsetlik laat honger lei, hulle laat dood lei en hulle dood veroorsaak en so genocide teen ons boere volk gepleeg. Hulle is lafaards, nou maak hulle of hulle die 2de Anglo Boere Oorlog gewen het. Hulle het die internasionale reels en regulasies vir oorlog oortree. Hulle is almal pagans en dit is ook hoekom God hulle vandag straf. As jy volg in die nuus wat met engeland gebeur op die oomblik. Hulle aanbid die britse koninglikes instede van God. Ons Boere Volk glo onwrikbaar in God. Suid Afrika is soos Eugene Terrablanche tereg geuiter het: dit is ons geboorteland, dit is ons beloofte land. Omdat ons in God glo is ons Boere Volk gemartel van die vroegste van jare. Die donker magte van die duiwel is vandag nog steeds besig om ons te treiter en ons lewe te steel naamlik die ANC. Maar God slaap nie, dit lyk vir hulle of ons verslaan is maar passop wanneer God intree. Ons moet ons wapentuig aantrek en opstaan vir God en ons land terug vat. God sal ons help.
There are many statues and memorials in British cities about the Boer War and "service in South Africa" - you can see it really meant something at the time. I am sure I am not alone in saying I know very little about it and this was a great introduction.
I’m afraid you have your facts wrong on the aftermath of the surrender in the Brandwater Basin - some Boers could go home, but thousands were taken as POW’s to Ceylon and other places across the globe.
Also, regarding the concentration camps being for Boer “refugees” - I find it remarkable that the argument is still put forward to tone down that atrocity by using the term “refugee” … rather misleading as its not like Boer woman and children fled the republics across international borders - they were captured within the republics and imprisoned. NOT in “refugee” camps, that would imply some sort of voluntary action on their sides, which simply was not the case for the most part.
My grandmothers father died in Potchefstroom in 1890 with the Cape Town Highlanders. My grandfather and his brorther in law both joined the 29th Imperial Yeomanry. Fortunately gramps made it out alive but his brother in law died in 1900.
So good to learn more about this as my great great grandfather was in the conflict. Anyone know how I can find out more information about him? He was in the Royal Scots Guards. That, and his name, are all I have.
The library in the central Freemason's Lodge in London gives you access to a lot of ancestry databases that you normally have to pay for (or it did when I went before Covid).
The boers knew how to shoot at long range unlike poor Tommy Atkins who had very little training . I heard the boers were dissapointed that the brits didn't wear red with the white cross straps x marks the spot type of mentality
great presentation thank you!
Wrong, the diamonds were in Kimberley which was occupied by the British in response. The crown jewels include the Cullinham diamond that was taken by the British. Wrong, gold provided riches in the Transvaal, not the Orange Freestate. Wrong, there is no evidence that I know of that included a preemptive attack by the FARMERS. Ok, you've exercised the name (not word), Boer, which is considered highly offensive if spoken by you. Back it up a bit (you can learn about it by looking at SA today).
Language of old Dutch? You should look south of Holland. 5:43 Typical Boer fighters. Or did you mean mean Afrikaans farmers?
I'm not going to watch your video any further, it's misinformation. Parting though, go research how the Commandos of WW2 got to be called Commandoes.
My Great Grandfather won a DCM in the Boer war.
Second Boer War
Strength
British: 347,000 Colonial: 103,000-153,000 African auxiliaries: 100,00
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The second Boer war, after the peace of the first Boer war gold was found under the 'farmer's republic ' and the City of London and it's investors wanted it. The second (Great) Boer war was pure exploitation.
Please the Boers did not fight a 'Guerrilla' war! In the early stages we fought set battles Won 87% of these until our artillery ammunition ran out and the english empire pumped in hundreds of thousands of soldiers and millions of tons of materials. Guerrilla warfare was used by the Spanish in the Napoleonic wars to snipe at the French. As general Christian de Wet stated "If we were gorrillas, the gorrilas made a mockery of english military superiority"! General de Wet formulated 'Kommando Warfare' and our Fore fathers then used it!
Well said. A half a million brits and their colonial forces to fight no more than 33 to 40 thousand Boer FARMERS available at anytime, untrained, undiciplined, self supplied and without logistics. As well as hiring, mounting, arming and suppling blacks, then including themselves raided Boer farms while the men were away fighting. Blacks were also used to man the 8000 block houses accross the country to prevent the Cape Kommandos joing the Transvaall and OFS Kommandos, for if they were able to, Brits would have lost their in anycase pyhrric war. What Ukrainians are enduring now, the Boers endured more for over THREE years, WITHOUT assistance. Very little from France and Germany. In spite of no support, lack of arms and ammunition, Boers fought on. Only the genocide of Boer Elderly, women and children in Brit extermination camps along with the scorched earth policy, brought the Boers to the negotiating table. The same was handed to a conservatively estimated 40 thousand loyal black farm workers who did no more than refuse to take up arms against their employer. They too were murdered in SEPERATE "APARTHEID" camps. Let us not forget this was the second Boer war. In the first the Brits were soundly whipped in eight encounters and battles even with superior arms and trained troop. Brits spent the next twenty years bringing together the biggest force ever used to date for the second Boer war. Attempted white washing will never dimish the savage, brutal and inhumane Brit actions at great cost to themselves financially, while hundreds of thousands of their own were dying on the streets of their cities homeless from exposure, hyperthermia, startvation and utter dejection.
Once the sieges were over and the blockhoused went up and the land clearance policy was in effect the boers had no choice but to start guerrilla tactics , I have visited several battle sites in sa including modder river spion kop and colenso to name but a few
@@peterrooke5336 I had two Boer Grandfathers and a string of great Uncles in the Boer war. I have visited all the battlefields numerous times, camped there, and did some army training alongside a few. I note your fancy words "land clearance policy", no, you mean scorched earth policy. You also forgot to mention that brits paid, armed, mounted and supplied renegrade blacks to attack Boer farms where there were defenceless women, children and elderly alone. Assaulted, raped and murdered them. Then marched them to, not as most say "concentration camps" but extermination camps! Brit patrols did the same. In addition ordered scum like Aussie Morant and his ilk also to do likewise. Blockhouses, brits built 8,000 accross the country to prevent Cape Kommandos to join the fray which would have resluted in a utter defeat for you just as in the first Boer war. All that for almost a half a million men of the bragged about most modern army in the world, with endless supplies and logistics to fight, at best fifty thousand untrained, poorly armed FARMERS with no logistics!!! They were not guerilla's. They were fighters that you could only dream about, that you never, ever in your history came near to being, nor ever could come close to. Boers suffered for more than three years far worse than Ukraine is presently suffering. Far greater odds and without foreign aidm, support and weapons to speak of.
En die donners het vergeet ons Boere Volk is krygers vir Jesus en ons was net 19000 teen 'n oormag van 550000 britse soldate en ons het hulle nog steeds opgedonner. Die engelse generaal kitchinger & roberts by einde 1901 het besef dat hulle ons Boere Volk krygers nooit sou wen nie, toe het hulle, hulle scorched earth policy begin. Terwyl ons boere krygers op die oorlogsveld op verskeie fronte geveg het onwetende dat die engelse lafaards ons vrouens, kinders, oupas, oumas, plaas werkers en plaasdiere kom aanval het op ons plase, ons vrouens en kinders verkrag het, ons oupas en oumas mishandel het, ons plaas werkers aangerand het, ons plaas diere wreed dood gemaak het, ons besittings geplunder het, ons plaas huise opstalle en plaas skure opsetlik afgebrand het, ons plaas grond afgebrand het vir etlike myle, ons vrouens, kinders, oupas, oumas, plaaswerkers weggevoer het in ballingskap vir honderde kilometers per voet, op oop trein trokke opgejaag het en na 186 make shift konsentrasie kampe gevat wat eers net hakkies draad omgespan gehad het in die ope veld. In die konsentrasie kampe het hulle ons Boere Volk msnse opsetlik laat honger lei, hulle laat dood lei en hulle dood veroorsaak en so genocide teen ons boere volk gepleeg. Hulle is lafaards, nou maak hulle of hulle die 2de Anglo Boere Oorlog gewen het. Hulle het die internasionale reels en regulasies vir oorlog oortree. Hulle is almal pagans en dit is ook hoekom God hulle vandag straf. As jy volg in die nuus wat met engeland gebeur op die oomblik. Hulle aanbid die britse koninglikes instede van God. Ons Boere Volk glo onwrikbaar in God. Suid Afrika is soos Eugene Terrablanche tereg geuiter het: dit is ons geboorteland, dit is ons beloofte land. Omdat ons in God glo is ons Boere Volk gemartel van die vroegste van jare. Die donker magte van die duiwel is vandag nog steeds besig om ons te treiter en ons lewe te steel naamlik die ANC. Maar God slaap nie, dit lyk vir hulle of ons verslaan is maar passop wanneer God intree. Ons moet ons wapentuig aantrek en opstaan vir God en ons land terug vat. God sal ons help.