Does Russia See Ireland As the "Weak Link" in Europe in Navy Defences? | The Tonight Show
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- Ciara is joined by Cathal Berry TD, Alan Farrell TD, Mick Barry TD and Political Editor Daniel McConnell to discuss Ireland's naval defences.
Cathal Berry explains what "hybrid warfare" is and how Russia may be thinking outside the box in warfare.
Daniel McDonnell rejects statements the Minister for Defence made about Ireland's naval defences, stating that Simon Coveney is "absolutely 100% wrong."
Daniel tells Ciara that Ireland does not have a radar system and that "we rely on the kindness of our neighbours."
Cathal Berry echoes Cathal's words and rejects Minister Coveney's words saying that "we are the weakest link" in Europe.
Ciara turns her attention to Alan Farrell and states, "Alan Farrell, that sounds a little bit embarrassing..."
Alan admits that the incredibly important international infrastructure in Irish territory is "clearly not" well protected.
Alan recognises there is a legislation issue in regard to our naval defences and states it's a "quirk of legislation well before my time."
He tells Ciara the government will have to "reassess that."
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The only thing stopping the Russians from splitting our undersea cables, ten miles out to sea, is the guards. This is like an episode from Father Ted!
..but a bit more serious.
Russia can cut cables anywhere in the Atlantic.
@@tedcrilly46the Russians have been of the Donegal coast situated near underwater cables are located also.
@@charlesd3a they can put a submarine over most cables.
Youd never know. Nothing to be done.
For a country to have no radar is very hard to believe as radar telecommunications ect systems are actually built in Ireland for many years and sold around the world by state owned companies.
Which ones are built in Ireland?
Are you telling me Shannon Airport doesn't have radar ?
@@seanfaherty He is talking primary radar not civilian radar
@@woohoohaha7607 but can it do dual duty ?
@@seanfaherty No it cannot
We cannot protect our seas or our skies .Our defense is worse than useless .
Defend from what?
@@jimbobjimjim6500 From ur Ignorance The UK flying Jets over our airspace is disgusting and a violation of our constitution has the secret deal with the UK been brought b4 the oireachtas? if not why not?
@@jimbobjimjim6500 well if the Russians blew up pipelines in the baltic then they won't think twice about destroying Internet cables of our coasts
@@jimbobjimjim6500 Anyone who might encroach upon them, Russian ships or aircraft, for instance.
@@TheLastAngryMan01 Britain cannot even defend Kent yet it spends billions on defence.
We SERIOUSLY need jet fighters and trained pilots to operate them
Mm a few Viggens from our EU friends in Sweden would do the trick...!!
@@davidlally592 yep....apperntly a few grippens were offered at knock down prices but it was declined
@@davidlally592 viggens are outdated at this piont
@@jaws666 Saab Gripens are the best bet, Defense Ministry suggested purchasing 24 of them to patrol our skies, would be better than buying expensive Eurofighters or Rafales.
Ireland needs to buy fighter jets and anti submarine frigates. They also need p8 posiden maritime patrol aircraft
Neighbours? They mean Great Britain. Yes, we provide their defence!
The UK should send the Paddy's our immigrants, they can press gang these into a Navy and Airforce!
Or from the Irish perspective.
We allow UK to enter our territory in order to chase off an enemy of Nato which is targeting the UK.
If you don't like the deal then feel free to call it quits.
Are those Russian planes targeting London, or Donegal? You tell me.
We pay for that defence by giving you your second biggest trade surplus in the world (after the US) - £100bn in the 5 years up to 2022 alone.
@@tmunnelly By that logic, Germany should pay for the GB army given their trade surplus.
@@jonnyfishcake1
You misunderstand what I'm saying. You in the UK actually run a trade deficit with Germany. Because you run a large trade surplus with Ireland, we pump a net amount of money into the British economy, some of which ends up in the exchequer in corporation and income tax. Of course, this also supports British jobs. We give you your biggest TS in Europe and it more than pays for the RN and RAF support you give us. Irish airspace is only an extra 15% on top of the UK's anyway and we are cheap to defend since the RAF already defends Northern Ireland.
It is beyond negligence that Ireland's defense is so poor. Ireland's prosperity depends on these cables. And the Gardai are responsible! I'm dying 🤣.
The most relevant is the increase of the defense budget.
"Our neighbors" ? Who could they be ?
Alvan, in this case you spelled neighbors correctly.
Northern Ireland
Embarrassing and completely negligent
If you believe this fact free nonsense program, yes.
the republic of nodd.
You let Chinese police operate in Ireland according to lara reporter Australia... Your security is very down
Definitely dangerous to let Chinese police in Ireland reject that immediately
It was not just Ireland, the U.K. had two in London, in Hendon and Croydon, and one in Glasgow as well as dozens of other countries across five continents , so everyone's security is very down
An absolute total and utter joke and it's not funny we are more than capable of purchasing capable naval vessels that have undersea surveillance capabilities and surface capabilities along with the capability to engage if the need does arises as for our Air Defence well what Air Defence it's doesn't exist an army is merely equipped.
But it doesn't matter how much equipment you have if you do not have the personnel to operate it so why the government cannot fix the pay issues is beyond me and beyond anyone else but as usual is another Irish government mess up. If you were to compare the Croatian armed forces to the Irish defence forces the Irish defence forces are no more than a Coastguard. Croatia has about the same defence budget but 10 times better equipment and with the same amount of personnel. Yes there a NATO member but that makes absolutely no difference. It's nothing but excuses excuses and more excuses.
What needs to happen is we need to purchase 1 squadron of modern fighter interceptors modern Air Defence systems and a modern air surveillance system.
We need to purchase roughly 4 vessels similar to a corvette or a frigate and also two more capable ocean-going Patrol vessels. We need to purchase more capable and in a larger quantity of asw maritime Patrol aircraft.
Our army needs increased in size too at least 8000 personnel combined they need to sort the pay out in all three services and stop messing around. our soldiers need new equipment such as new helmets and body armour new primary and secondary firearms and a larger quantity of ammunition/supplies because at the moment we can about Sustainer ourselves for two weeks. There needs to be a complete overhaul of the defence forces. It will cost a lot of money at the Beginning but once the money has been spent and spent wisely then we will have a robust defence forces to defend our national infrastructure and our national Security. Against any threats of any kind. Wether that be from sea or air and those threats are there. Because unfortunately in this day and age if you want to live in a peaceful and safe country. You have to have some form of national defence. And let's just say for some mad reason the Russians decided to attack us the UK and the US are going to do absolutely nothing about it and that goes to the rest of Europe. And say a World War 3 did start it makes no difference if we are in NATO or not we would still be a legitimate target.
And anyone who comes up with the point. what's the point of spending all that money when we are defenceless does that mean that Singapore and Taiwan 2 island nations are totally defenceless too. Do your research before commenting.
Also the attitude towards the army the Air Corps in the Navy in the general public needs to change we are the only country I have ever seen this attitude in. And the attitude of the general public towards our defence forces is more than disgusting.
A waste of money.Ukraine has been given Billions and its getting destroyed.
You speak a lot of Sence. I would also add that Ireland would benefit from forming an operational level "joint maritime command" with personnel and assets from the Irish Naval service,Irish Air corps and the Irish army who's task is purely to monitor,manage and defend irish waters (including subsurface infrastructure) from possible attack, espionage or sabotage.
Honestly Ireland only really needs to procure 8-12 light attack aircraft like the Leonardo M346fa and ensure personnel from all branches are properly paid, trained and equipped. The Samuel Beckett Class offshore patrol vessels are excellent. Maybe half a dozen more helicopters and we're all set.
I would take issue with the comment that the US and UK would not get involved if Ireland were attacked, though. It's a touchy subject for Irish I know, but the unspoken agreement regarding Ireland's independence is that its security from continental aggression is guaranteed by the United Kingdom. There is a reason why Ireland deliberately spends as little as possible on defence - it doesn't *need* to. It's absolutely 100% in Britain's interest to keep Ireland in its back yard, so to speak. While Britain has historically been the aggressor and main threat to Ireland, it's also what enables Ireland to live comfortably detached from the geopolitics of the continent. Eire is shielded by Britannia, but similarly Eire is the garden that cannot be trespassed.
I do agree with you though, that in order to be truly independent Ireland should be able to rely on its own capabilities to patrol its Exclusive Economic Zone. It needn't go crazy with military expenditure, but a budget approximating 0.75 to 1 per cent of GDP would be a lot better than current defence spending
@@Joker-yw9hl well said
Absolutely, Ireland needs a stronger naval defence and a better aircorp, at the moment Ireland relies on the RAF to intercept Russian aircraft that fly over Irish airspace they don't engage but chase them out of our airspace, the aircorp should be better funded and equipped with sophisticated aircraft such as the eurofighter ( typhoon) or F16s, the navy should be equipped with submarines
NATO dunnit and everyone in Europe has had to pay the price.
Sleepy Joe even threatened to do it months earlier, this stuff is laughable.
In all seriousness though - the Irish at least make the UK forces look formidable.
Get the fisher men to protects our sea
Ireland cuddled up for comfort to Britain during WW2, and were kept going by the Atlantic convoys, but cometh the peace "cometh the mistrust", and grievances.
The RAF, and probably the RN, have adequate weaponry to continue defending the British Isles. It's a bit childish to bite the hand that defends you.
The RAF and RN are both in a dismal state, the RAF have less than a 1/3 of the fighter aircraft it had in the 1990s, the RN Surface Fleet is dismally small(should at least be doubled the Frigates and treble the Destroyers), the Submarine Service is a 1/4 what it was during the 1980s/1990s
@@markbenjamin1703Then mire need for Ireland to be able to do the job themselves rather than relying on our stretched RAF and RN.
The Republic of Ireland have declared to beef up their Navy by press-ganging their Olympic Rowing EIGHT into their Boat.😂
There's nothing like hype when the opportunity arises, communication lines run the whole way across the Atlantic and with technology today could be attacked anywhere.
Ireland should be more interested in spending on social housing than on beefing up the Military.
“We have a body of water 8 times our country to patrol… huge” excuses, excuses😡. Tell that to the rise of the Dutch, British and Spanish navies of the 17th century. 😢
Ireland has always needed protection on those seas n sky's.
Relied on the uk for that
Ireland got degree in surreptitiously war field.. Dont expect northern Ireland troops to save your bacon
You were protesting USAF landing in Shannon and now you want our help? Better start building some more LE’s or have the Mayo fleet take care of matters.
True
The vast majority of Ireland are not opposed to anything the US does they simply are unaware of what is happening.
Do not take the most vocal left wing activists to mean the whole of ireland.
We don't want or need your help. Russia is a shambles, and we're part of the EU.
Also we don't really need you in Shannon, so just watch your words.
Do not tease dog who can bite, every child knows that, apart of our government....
We should upgrade all of our defenses, wouldn't be worried about russia though.
Time we signed up to NATO and stopped being the "little boys" of Europe.
We should sign up so we can be big boys?
@@tonyclifton2230 gotta grow up sometime 😉
We should join NATO either that or be armed neutrality enshrined in our constitution like it is in Switzerland. Because you do know it says no where in our constitution that we are neutral it's just a stand the government has been taking. You don't see foreign military aircraft landing in Swiss airports to refuel. The same for Sweden until they change their minds to join NATO Irish public live under a false sense of neutral security which is completely and utterly imaginary if there were to be a war with Russia and NATO Ireland would be a legitimate target as we are attached to the United Kingdom and Shannon and Dublin Airport would also be annihilated. As they are strategically important between the United States continent and Europe. Anyway I can inclusion to your comment I fully agree with it
@@rustyed7260 Switzerland have a bunch of shelters for their citizens. We could do that. I don't see anything you say as being of any use practically.
@@tonyclifton2230 and what's not practical should we just continue to be the Weakest Link in Europe and have no defence whatsoever.
A Russian training exercise off the Irish coast that was thwarted by fishermen. Jesus wept that’s laughable.
He mentions Nord Stream with a straight face? Even the normally stoic Putin has a hard time maintaining his composure when that's brought up, this is level of contempt they have for people's intelligence.
The Donegal lady doesn’t appear to be neutral and the world and it’s dog now knows that nordstream was a job done by Polish intelligence with USA assistance
Ireland is not neutral and should quadruple military expenditure from Next year onwards
Ppl should stay out of Ukraine - Russia. UK supports Air and sea power. Our neighbours! Reality and truthfulness brings solution. Ireland heavily supported by United Kingdom.
If people should stay out of Ukraine you might want to tell the Russians
Sure thing Francine. How far up pukins behind are you?
"world and it’s dog now knows that nordstream was a job done by Polish intelligence with USA assistance"
Maybe the World and it's dog would like to provide some evidence?
He keeps dodging the question he knows the Irish Defense Force is underfunded and ill equipped! Is he a liberal!? Lol, the Irish Navy needs more capability and capacity in order to effectively perform their duties, the maritime domain fir Ireland is crucial to their survival to depend on another nation for that is ludicrous absurd and insane. There need to be a Defense Stategy formulated by the Defense Forces leadership that includes doctrine procurement budget and buy in (politically) no radar, no ISR! How can any Defense force claim that title if they can't actually and adequately perform the job!? Kinda like New Zealand (these two need to do joint acquisitions of weapons systems since their budgets and Armed forces are similar) what do they need, both need an air force in some form that can operate from land bases and sea platforms similar to how the RN and RAF was both using the Harriers(if need be, probably will need it) preferably a vtol aircraft, no, not the F35, Harriers or some new vtol similar to capability of the Harriers but 21st Century design and affordable (that way they can buy enough to be operationally effective, instead of buying 12 or less,smh) getting Harriers will be best because most nations will give it to them or sell it to them at reduced cost, the savings can be spent into modernizing or fully restoring the airframe to zero hour specs . Vtols can operate from any airfield platform or runway, making them ideal for nationa with restrained budgets like Ireland and New Zealand, especially since they are island nations, also both should invest in their Expeditionary capabilities with lpd's of some sort, the NZDFN have the Canterbury Class LPD that can be built for both navies, an evolved form of the ship that can engage in the modern maritime combat environment , unlike the current vessel, will be apart of an evolved form of this vessel, a total of four (two per nation) ideally along with these will be a light carrier in the guise of the Principe de Austrias or Chakri Narubet Class to serve in the Sea Control role as envisioned by Admiral Zumwalt. This will enhance the capability of both navies a mobile platform for the Harriers or similar vtol and serve in HADR operations as well, a total of two vessels (1 per nation) viable escorts will be needed but more importantly vessels that can tactically operate alone with sensors and weapons that will allow for it to engage both maritime and land threats , a true surface combatant, New Zealand have their with the Anzac Class, the Irish Navy need that capability, the RAN just retired some frigates (Oliver Hazard Perry clones) that will fit that need, two of them to complement what the Irish Navy already have in inventory but that will bring more lethality to their fleet. I know budgets and politics play a role in this but reality should also add to the thinking process as well, thinking outside the box is a great thing, joint purchases of equipment with other nations will become the norm because of mutual benefits, those benefits will let both nations gain access to capabilities and assets militarily together, that would have been harder alone, again this is only an idea based upon what can be seen globally with nations like Ireland struggling to meet their security needs because of budgets. There are plenty of systems land air and sea that are being phased out for newer systems that Defense Forces have access to for example Irish Army uses wheeled LAV's but lack a dedicated FSV version of them ,the Belgian Land Component (Army) have DF 90's that are being replaced, the DF 90 is the same vehicle(Mowag Piranha III)that the Irish Army uses but armed with a 90mm cannon why not obtain these in order to improve the lethality of their Cavalry forces and add that direct fires element to support ground combat operations in general. Also the ASLAV of Australia is being replaced, reach out for a few modernize them with sensors and armaments (add atgm's or loitering munitions) as should be done across the board (distributed lethality) both (New Zealand and Ireland) Defense Forces need a surge in recruitment in order to truly meet their Defense needs, but must complement that with capability (equipment) what motivates a person willingness to serve their country knowing that they will have the resources and incentive to do so. Both of them need to invest in and raise up better Expeditionary forces (RDF) that will have Airborne/Air Assault and amphibious capabilites an elite force that can deploy in numbers on short notice to critical combat situations and be able to sustain themselves until follow up forces can arrive, again the capability must be met by the availability of the equipment to carry out the missions. Thoughts
Our european partners will be furious if anything happens to these cables .Ireland should request that the americans protect our waters until we build up sufficient capacity to do it ourselves .
Both Britain and America could be the partners that could be used in the short term. Invasion would be far more worrisome for Ireland than targeting of communication systems.
I agree with you but purely from a logistical point of view the UK would be the better option.
Why should UK look after Ireland, they are not part of UK and I find it very rich to cherry pick.
What is it they use to say about the Irish Navy... the only navy in the world that goes home for their dinner 😂😂😂
Maybe back in the 70s that was true
@@pauliepatterson Now they only go home at weekends!!!😂😂😂😂
@@pauliepatterson Still is🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
2 new vessels no Ciara🙄 2 second hand patrol boats bought from New Zealand for 26 million euros 13 million each they are 15 years old and will only patrol the Irish Sea and be based In Dun Laoighaire get it right please
Yeah but they've been tied up in a harbour for 10 of those 15 years due to lack of available staff in the NZ navy (like ourselves) and inability to go to sea due to more extreme local conditions.
I think they got a bargain there. The OPVs cost €72 million each. Just hope we have the people to man them and they don't suffer the same fate as before.
@@yermanoffthetelly Do New Zelamd have the Russians testing them off he coastline or internet cables off their coast like us we should buy some corvettes 2 frigates and 16 Fighter Jets
@@woohoohaha7607 Yep I fully agree with you there, and it's not an unreasonable goal IF the issue of pay and retention is sorted first. I was just saying the ships they bought have seen very light use, require less resources and are ideal in the role of fishery protection/drug interdiction.
@@yermanoffthetellyCoveney a few months ago said I dont want to militarize the state here is exactly ti the problem he said and I quote we are Geographically protected by the UK oh right yeah is Portugal Geographically protected by spain ?does Portugal Ask Spain to patrol irs airspace and territorial waters ?would Lisbon sign a secret deal for Spain to protect it and not bring it before the Portuguese parliament no is the answer
Just budget 3% of your national income and send it to USA! Pressto, you have a defence pact!
In the meantime while you build up your naval and sub force maybe a better relationship with the UK so the Royal Navy and the RAF can monitor the sea’s around South West Ireland .
They can borrow my canoe. Seriously, the British are probably still our biggest threat.
@@kmadge9820 u r a racist
@@kmadge9820 no they aren’t ya big dope
@@LeMerchWhat would you know about it trolly person? Not your fight. Oh and yes, Truss thinks Macron is the enemy.
Haha…you can’t be serious… have a quick look at the last 800 years of our history…?
Tainiste Martin is not listening - he's too busy waving his hands about auditioning for his next job
Considering we only have 2 canoes, a rubber dingy and a bucket and spade I would’ve thought so yes
Hilarious 🤣🤣🇮🇪
You for got the light house, a dog and 2 craft beers
The anti-NATO parties need to cop on and support more funding of Irish Defence. That would give us some level of sovereignty.
I imagine life without RTE wow mind those cables,
🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 nobody See's Ireland as any thing🤣🤣🤣🤣
That makes no sense.
But we see you as a cretin.
Dat , boat in Paddy's garage il do...fit a pug on it and we can take on any shower ......
Can't pay a proper wage
Try living in Britain.Everyone is on strike or going on strike.
You can talk about it for about nine minutes in this video, but everybody knows that the answer to the question in the he title is 'yes, obviously, yes, get your act together!'
The simple answer is yes.
Remarkable that the only vessels equipped with Sonar in the RoI are fishing vessels looking for shoals. A navy without this capability isn't a navy.
The Royal Irish Navy, used to have O'Neills, witches teats, Ra's Eyes, until you started giving Lutherans our last name and royal claim. We're the same as Caspian Georgians, Stalin, you know. U'Niall, shares heritage, with Caesar, Stalin, Lu Bu, Narmer, Samhain, and Virgil.
I got the impression Russia sees Ireland either as the weak link or just as a desirable place to potentially occupy and launch attacks on the rest of Europe for logistical or strategic reasons when he was flying fighters through there and y’all’s poor fishermen were having to mount diplomatic interventions to prevent armed war games in their waters last year. It kind of freaked me out to learn how vulnerable ireland is even though I’m in the US. I hope Ireland knows you don’t have to abandon the wholesome side of your famous neutrality just because you make a serious effort to make your land defensible for the sake of yourselves and the west in general. I was so glad to hear you increased your budget and are getting radar and hopefully guns. It doesn’t mean you have to go marauding like Vikings just because you try to secure your country from disaster in times like these. I trust the Irish not to abuse a bigger military more than most. Here’s hoping you can grow your military might while avoiding world morality police syndrome. 🍻
if we are a nuetral nation why is a nato member patroling our aerospace namely R.A.F
Stop ignoring irelands neutrality, thats the best way to
Security of irish nation.
And get nato out of the north.
He is welcome to it,look at what we have
Jesus christ on a bike...our "navy" only has 6 ships?
“We rely on the generosity of our neighbours. “ he means the Brits. Just can’t bring himself to say it.
But we don't.
Russian planes aren't targeting Ireland. They're targeting the UK.
If UK didn't want to enter Irish airspace they simply wouldn't. But they do.
Because its mutually beneficial.
@@tedcrilly46 Russia wants to dominate Europe and end the Pax Americana. Ireland benefits from NATO defending US dominance without participating. It’s a luxury based on geography. If Ireland swapped places with Estonia things would be very different.
@@charlespirate1 Russia can want what it likes. They can't even capture Avdiivka. Day 700 against Ukraine, barely hanging on. Shambolic.
They stand zero chance against the EU.
Population 440m, €18trn economy.
Pax Americana is over. Multi-polar world is here. And we're on team Europe.
Strategic autonomy/csdp is our future.
F the Brits and the yankz. Don't need them. Hope king cheet0 wins.
All these decades, nobody asks about the disadvantages of our geography, economically marginalized, distant, with transport costs for everything.
But now they want to talk about location when a natural advantage is evident. Not hearing it. Tough.
the English found out the hard way too!!!!! they call us "THE FIGHTING IRISH" ☘️🤠😎💪
The English have won practically every war they've ever fought against you. But keep the bluster going.
@@Deadeye012011 not USA
@@Deadeye012011 key word is practically 😅🤣😂
@@edwardmcdermott9948 the last war the British and Americans fought was the war of 1812 which ended with the British crushing a U.S attempted invasion of Canada and the occupation and sacking of Washington the British also burned down the White House.
@@edwardmcdermott9948 well could give you the war of Independence even tho it wasn't much of a victory the Irish achieved none of there military objectives and were forced to take the deal the British were offering even before the war.
Clown show.🤡
Hope so you've portrayed so much covet n hate to Northern Ireland Hope Russia has you in their view.. Lies n lies USA behind most of these Pipe lines
Ha ha weak link? Time to launch a few more currach’s me boys!
unreal all I can say this all new to me,
Backward Ireland
Sensible Ireland.Keep us out of NATO.
@@sonnyirish3678 No
@@woohoohaha7607 Join NATO become a US proxy.
@@sonnyirish3678 Since when has it been sensible not to invest enough in basic self defence?
@@TheLastAngryMan01 Exactly even outside of NATO we spend pittance on defence 0.4% of GNI disgusting
To patrol Irish waters just is beond ridiculous. What a nonsense somming up what they will get . Ireland is way to small on its own even if the spent all the money in all of Ireland it makes hardly a difference against a super power .😂
There are plenty of men living in tents in Mount Street who would have some military and seagoing experience of different sorts if these people were sought out to replenishbtheceanks ifvthevdrfende forces and have a special deal for say citizenship aftef five-year service ? There are plenty of jobs needed to be filled like in xatering cleaning seamanship all where individuals don't have to hold guns?
Complete, unmitigated hogwash!
The fg lad thinks Russia blew nordstream 😂😂😂,,if the banks needed 30 billion tomorrow it wouldn't be a problem,, long term borrowing of 40 billion might get us off the ground,,a proper country could at least try to defend its territory land and sea,,we are an embarrassing joke!
Russia did not own Nordstrom.
All nation will need to do more to secure their underwater pipelines and cables. Including the navel powers
Let the creative process begin.
Joker guys
We are doomed 🤣
I won't mind being Ireland invaded by Putin, at least will have heat and electricity
maybe uk will sendthem an aircraft carrier...ps..hard to understand this woman' speech
This is simply solved.
A joint Admiralty Commission. Officers from both Navies agree a joint "Operational Area". The units needed to patrol and protect it.
After that ... a Political Agreement will be needed to tie Governments to the "Operational Area".
Combined procurement of Vessels and Aircraft will save both nations a great deal of money.
("Combined "Operational Area" covering Both Island West of an agreed line.)
Ireland JOIN NATO!
Nato don't want a country who doesn't pay its way
One ignorant chap. Don't bring him on again
Which chap?
I've been saying for years that Ireland should procur half a dozen Italian-made Leonardo M346-FA light multi-role aircraft. It's not like Ireland needs tens of them. Perhaps 8 would do, but even 6 might be fine. Don't need to go mad, just have some capability at least. Ireland should be able to properly patrol and intercept within its own exclusive economic zone. These aircraft are more than capable, without having to rely on British Typhoons or buying more expensive aircraft like the Swedish Gripen or American F-16s
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ireland is begging to defends from uk
Yes that is the case but in a major war the UK may not actually have the ships and resources to do it.
''Navy'' what navy might as well have 20 row boats. Maritime experts sweet adorable,
A small country with an exceptionally intellectually talented population like Israel can punch above it's weight in military affairs.
Ireland however doesn't have the talent of Israel so it's pointless to even try to be a military power.
Where are u from?
Intellectually talented? We have the most educated workforce in Europe.
Israel is in a far different position globally,Heavily funded by America to the tunes of billions towards defence every year,they are a warmongering nation,us Irish are complete opposites,not in our thinking.
@@tribalque2232 Most have left for greener pastures. 😂
@@tribalque2232 but they r all homeless because your corrupt politicians took brown paper bags from builders ,need I say more
All europe is week and all of the uk
Yes they are
Let's tackle the false premise from the start - Russia is not in any form a threat to our country. The reason they have taken military action in Ukraine is due to the aggressive stance of the US. The US orchestrated a coup back in 2014 in Ukraine. All the while openly talking about their plans to regime change in Russia for years and Ukraine being the doorway to that.
The US is the one that does violent revolutions everywhere across the globe and suffers no consequences for their constant breaking of international laws. They are the ones we need to be wary of. The US is the country that just engaged in terrorism against a supposed ally in Germany - they bombed critical infastructure (Nordstream pipeline) either with their own military assets which are all over that area or they used a proxy - one of their vassel states such as the UK or Poland.
We should have a significantly better Naval Defence to defend our waters against pillaging by other countries but hugely importantly to choke the supply of drugs and weapons coming from North & South America into our country and our neighbours countries.
What a load of 💩. Can you tell me who’s been repeatedly encroaching into Irish airspace in recent years? Who decided to hold live fire military exercises in Ireland’s EEZ? Who’s been sending ships to hover over Ireland’s fiber-optic cable network? Who applied to massively extend their embassy way beyond that of a country with very little bilateral trade/ movement of people with Ireland?
Hint: it’s not the United States.
@@TheLastAngryMan01Nothing in your ramble refutes what I said.
@@meepins You speculate about Nordstream. No one has any empirical hard evidence as to who is definitively responsible for the sabotage of the pipeline. Can you cite your reputable sources that it was the US? I don't know. Nobody does. You seem quite dogmatic in your knowledge, so please provide the unequivocal evidence that it was the US.
meepins utter nonsense russia and russia alone invaded ukraine it was putlers vanity war he wants to be seen as a hard russian leader he has said constantly that ukraine is russia in his view and needs to be destroyed or merged
In a United Ireland defence spending would have to go to 2% immediately and we would have to join NATO and the Commonwealth and rightly so
When our country is United we must learn from the past. Don't get control and hand it over to NATO like after the war of independence and.(the long hure)/gAve it to the church
@@malachymccloskey7839 Do u accept Unionists wont accept the Ireland we live in and our disgraceful defence spending?
BS
@@kmadge9820 Explain urself
No to Commonwealth. Maybe to NATO
Our waters..?.. they are speaking about a standard 200 km sea border put in place by Hugo Grotius ...every country in the world has been given this distance of their shoreline... Therefore not our waters but an international unsaid agreement put in place not by an Irishman but a Dutchman ...not our waters therefore ...and we would be better off under the Russian federation than the European Union who started this conflict and have not listened to Irish people....not your waters Ireland..not your country Ireland all in dispute and all there to be taken...at any time...even if Ireland had a navy they would still lose as they aren't fighters just swindlers... following Grotius would suit them as he too was thrown in prison in his lifetime for being a zealot so his ideas would have taken root with the rest of the speculator' who ran to Ireland when reckless speculation becam a capital offence in Europe ...which officially has not changed.
Funny that ' not fighting' Ireland was the first state to kick out British Imperialism.
Best Urban warfare units in the world and made the SAS sharp too ta boot..
Be Jesus we have 5 rowing boats now and 3 rafts, what else do you want!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oars, we have no oars. Can we afford the oar, maybe we should have a whip around for a dozen or so.
Maybe the military’s industrial complex might throw us a few bob to get us out of the sh-te
Hilarious 🤣🤣🇮🇪
Ireland needs to spend about €50 billion on its military and then a yearly budget of €12 billion. Current spending is nautical miles of that.
Keep the six offshore patrol vessels and the two newly acquired inshore patrol vessels, build two undersea surveillance ships and two general purpose frigates, double the amount of maritime patrol aircraft and equip the ones on order with anti submarine weapons and form an Irish "joint maritime command" composing of Irish naval service and Irish air corps personnel and assets dedicated purely to the surveillance, management and defence of Irish waters both on the surface and subsurface
But even then this is only talking about the navy, not even thinking about the airforce
Honestly Ireland only really needs to procure 8-12 light attack aircraft like the Leonardo M346fa and ensure personnel from all branches are properly paid, trained and equipped. The Samuel Beckett Class offshore patrol vessels are excellent. Maybe half a dozen more helicopters and we're all set
@@Joker-yw9hl I'd say add sonar and some sort of anti submarine weapons on the Samuel Beckett class. I agree 8 light fighters is probably sufficient to at least have a deterrent present in Irish skys
@@Joker-yw9hl
To defend an Island the size of Ireland in a major global war will take much more than that.
With the best will in the world does Russia care about Ireland in the slightest?
No.
Yes Russia cares about Ireland and has done so for a very long time.
Ireland is the most western country in European. It is the further point in the atlantic and if Russia was to try and take Europe it would take ireland and sweep through the great european plain. This would allow Russia to form a pincer movement on the UK.
Ireland would act as a massive aircraft carrier to defend from attacks from the US and allow attacks to be performed on Europe.