I was looking at high-end Presage Seikos, but once the option of Grand Seiko was presented to me, I think that's definitely the way to go. Initially I was a bit apprehensive due to the quartz movement, but after reading up on the movement, I was really able to appreciate the engineering put into it and I think the movement is far nicer than the automatics used in this price level of Seiko. The finishing and attention to detail is just in a league above, paired with the reliability of the movement.
Fifty years between servicing, not counting battery changes. That’s just insane good quality. And saying “lower end” Grand Seiko sounds like “cheap” Bugatti.
not the entry level GS. the spring drive is where it gets better. spring drive is in the mid range and above in grand Seiko the presage is the better buy here. its action is much smoother than the base GS.
@@Pete...NoNotThatOne Well i bought a Seiko quartz watch in 1978 it was not an expensive watch with a 7546 movement. It still runs perfectly never needed any service so i expect it will go on running for another 8 years more and it will be 50 years old...So 50 years between services seems also something a middle of the road Seiko can do...
To use you analogy, the value of the expensive home in a cheap area will drop (never buy the most expensive home in an area - the price will always drop when compared to other homes in the same area!) and the value of the cheapest home in an expensive area will rise.
When it comes to real estate, it’s all about location. So definitely a cheaper home in an appreciating area/city > an expensive home in the middle of the boonies.
Good comparison. Honestly didn’t even think of it even though I own the black version of that grand seiko. It definitely takes a second to rationalize having such an expensive quartz when the hobby tries to ingrain the idea, at least from what I’ve experienced, that anything above 200,if even that, for a quartz is overpriced. I enjoy mind, looking down at it you can definitely tell the quality at least in my opinion. Glad to see some other with GS quartz out there!
I own the black one as well (SBGX261) . The 9F movement is honestly so cool. I think it's an essential part of Grand Seiko and the quality is stunning to say the least
I recently purchased the Presage model because of the dial. It's true that the finishing and engineering of all Grand Seikos are superior, but that frost dial just mesmerizes me. The thinness of the case was also a factor.
if you have enough budget, go for GS. Although it is not automatic but the GS quartz is different from normal quartz. The quality of the body and detail is still big different between Seiko top end and GS.
@@johnanthif you wanna talk about flagship. citizen focuses on quarts so they better. Seiko focus a lot more on mechanical, automatic, and spring drive. They do have a some quarts models but seikos flagship focus is on spring srive. Which citizens can't touch seikos spring drive movement. When it comes to quarts yes they may be slightly better. But that's what citizen has its full focus on. So they better be better.
I think I'll probably end up with a quarts grand seiko later in life just because you don't need to service as much as an automaticand I'll probably want to live care free.
The SJE073J1 is a very nice watch, and as you mentioned the dial is stunning as well as the blued seconds hand. The only downside I see with this and other cheap, but not cheap mechanical watches if that eventually they will need a service that could be a third or so the cost of the watch itself. The GS just requires a battery that you could carefully change at home. Its sealed movement should provide a lifetime of service.
Thank you brother! I fell SOOO HARD for the Shunbun, but its way out of my price range... so I was torn between the Pesage's snowflake dial and an entry level GS. Your video really helped me with my decision. The GS may be simple looking, but its elegant and the quality of the fit and finish is stunning... I just need to experience the GS, and I will forever be motivated to make my way up to the Shunbun someday. I appreciate your time 🙏🏾
I own the SBGX263. It will forever be in my collection. I later bought the Shunbun. The SBGX263 packs a lot of punch and stands up against other GS watches, even the Shunbun to be completely honest. The Shubun has the one-and-only Spring Drive movement whereas the SBGX has the over-engineered quartz that is also one-of-a-kind. The SBGX simply over-delivers.
I have Grand Seiko Snowflake and Grand Seiko Quartz but I also have 2 Presage as well as Sumos and Turtles. Seiko and Grand Seiko both put out a quality product. Longines Vhp is also an excellent quartz product accurate to like 5 seconds a year.
Interesting choice, i have to say the dial on the Seiko is really studnning & I like the style of the bracelet more but you make a great point about the overengineering on the Grand Seiko's movement as well as the general finish, and the hands+indices on GS are just on another level. It's a tough choice but I think i'd go for the GS but the Seiko is definitely punching high above its weight. Great video 👍
Oooof haha this video is going back a while...thanks for watching though, my friend. Yeah it’s a really tough choice. Especially since the Seiko 6L movements come in some really expensive watches now
Grand seiko blows it out the water. Looks a quality watch and that quartz movement is the very best. Like the seiko but you kind of know its not constructed in the same league.
I’m going with the lower end Grand Seiko. I think it’s an amazing watch for the money. I would have already bought one but I just can’t decide between champagne or black. Which is unfortunate because no matter which one I choose I will have that nagging feeling that I picked the wrong one.
I'm surprised with the comments, that sje073 is so classy in metal ( I have one). That GS feels plain and boring in comparison, even with a springdrive movement I would still pick the seiko regardless of the price. Also that sje073 isn't that dressy, it does have some sport casual vibes too, and it's a strap monster. Easy to dress up or down to your liking. And lastly I'd say the case profile is truly special. Ymmv 👌🏻 Nice review buddy, thank you 🙏🏻
Absolute the Presage G.S more for the older men above the 70 Also the Limited Seiko is More original, perfect special automatic 6l35 and 100% the collectible from those 2
The Seiko is much better looking with a lovely mesmerizing dial & understated classy presence & smoothness… The GS here looks like a generic “nice” watch to me…I’m in the minority here looking at the comments section but without a doubt I’d go with that rare Seiko over the cheap Grand Seiko - moreover 20 years from now I bet that rare Seiko is worth a lot of money whereas that cheap Grand Seiko will be lucky to hold its value….
I have GS SBGA413 and this SJE173, and outside of the movement they're nearly identical. In fact I could make an argument that 173 is better because the clasp when closed is flush with the bracelet, the GS clasp sticks out, also the 173 is thinner than my GS. Make no mistake, the SJE173 has GS finishing. Of course the main difference is the movement, 6L35 vs spring drive 9R35. Hard to compare a spring drive and a mechanical movement, it's mostly preference I believe, but I'll personally give that to the win to the 9R65. Now if the 6L35 were adjusted to 5 or 6 positions, well now we're talking a dead heat IMHO. I paid $1800 for SJE173 and $6300 in trade dollars to get the SBGA413.
Cool video! Really nicely done. Just for the sake of being complete: You seem to omit that the Grand Seiko's real estate on the dial, that is the indices and hands, are lightyears ahead of the Presage. Then the blue hand on the Presage isn't heat treated steel, but rather painted, which gives a particular vibe that isn't as it should be at this price point. The 6L35 is a solid movement though. I have it in the King Seiko limited, but the quartz is more special. They are both cracking watches, but I'll take the Grand Seiko quartz any day of the week. Also because the 37 x 44 x 10mm sizing is so eminently wearable. It's fantastic. Thanks for posting this though.
All grand seikos have the same quality hand finishing en detailing . They go through a rigorous process . Also the 9f quartz movement is one the best quartz out there together with high end citizen
Thanks for the video, I’ve purchased sbgx261 and I love it, I also like how that seiko looks, how does it look on the wrist in comparison with GS, doesn’t it look big on your wrist ? Thank you
@@MPD90 diashield coating is a different feature of the watch and different from comfitex technology. Too bad, i could not see the sje073 in the seiko prestige line of presage. All are mentioned there in the specification.
@@MPD90 as of now, i dont see of any application of comfitex in new existing models. Commonly it is in brightz models. Anyways, try and check in watchuseek forums, there is a bit of explanation. Anyways, this is just my knowledge.
GS without question? GS Quartz is a no-brainer. Some days I don’t want to wear the watch and when I do I don’t have to reset it, wind it, blah blah blah. Classic luxury and design and no work just enjoyment and pride of ownership.
I really wanted a Rolex Oyster P, but the price is ridiculous (and unjustified, as it's a just marketing ploy!) So I've ordered the GS with a bone white face. Great video, helped me make up my mind on digging into my savings!
Great choice, hope you enjoy it for many years to come! The white face is gorgeous. I was trying to choose between the white face and this one for quite a while :)
Excellent video and two superb watches you have. I would take the GS as that model is in my cross hairs, my taste is now for a slimmer and lighter watch to wear. It’s also the next step in my Seiko collection.
The busy subsecond chapter ring on the Presage just absolutely destroys that dial for me. To me the Presage looks like a cheap watch trying way too hard. The Grand Seiko is gorgeous. Not a hard choice for me. I think above the $100 mark or so, Seiko never delivers compared to its competitors. Under Grand Seiko money, at every price tier above about $100, you're better off with Orient, Citizen, Hamilton, or micros like Tsao, Zelos, etc...
I have to go for the looks regardless of price and the presage looks 10 times better than the GS here so id go for the presage it doesnt matter about anything else if it doesnt look great i will barely wear it or not at all. So even if the GS was some how cheaper id pass on it for the presage between the 2 shown.
The GS is a much more beautiful piece of jewelry. As a watch, although I love mechanical movements, the I own the 6R35 in the Seiko, and I am not impressed. I find mine to be disappointingly inaccurate. So I prefer the GS, despite the quartz movement. Overall, the GS is much finer in all respects.
This is a 6L35 not the 6R35…. the 6L35 is on another level than the 6R35. The Seiko is better looking than the Grand Seiko here… Moreover the rarity of the Seiko here will be more valuable than this low end Grand Seiko in the future I’d bet.
Having owned high end presage, as well as grand seiko, and the king seiko reissue in red. I think both the king and GS are one step ahead interms of finishing compared to presage. And surprisingly I think the king seikos are built better than the low end quartz grand seikos. Those cheaper GS have nice polish on the case but that's pretty much it. The bracelets are sooo bad on the cheape rGS compared to high end presage and is not even comparable to the king seiko braclet which I think is up to GS level I think. If the king seiko had a 6L movment it would be easily over 3000 dollars. So I think of it as a budget and more every day wearing GS since it's more brushed and will show less scratches. The very high presages still r unique and great especially the porcelain dials.
Affordable Grand Seiko everytime. I have 2 Seiko Presage watches with the 6R15 movement. They are beautiful but the time keeping is horrendous. I have been told it is a problem with the hairsprings.
Between this 2, for me the Seiko Presage any day, slimmer and better looking in general, better dial, better movement, better looking bracelet, same finishing and not to mention the limited edition.
It would help if you kept your hands steadier when holding the watch up and talking. The jerky images can be distracting. Also, almost halfway into the video and no mention of case diameters, or lug-to-lug width?
I have the snowflake and this baby snowflake. I have 2 9f. One is similar to this, sbgx265 which I bought for my younger son. The other is the sbgv237 which i bought for my elder son. This is has very nice case design. The side profile is really something. Anyway, both watches reviewed are nice.
There's another way of going about this - buy a slightly used mid-tier GS in mint condition from a Japanese dealer for the same price. That way, you don't even need to consider these two.
The presage is better and the dial is amazing. The GS looks like it’s trying to hard to be a Rolex and it’s a quartz so huge turn off, its the overpriced watch here considering it’s a quartz.
The video doesn't show how much better the gs is, you need to see it. Quartz or mechanical, after 15 mechanical watches its nice to open the box and find a watch with the correct time..its like when you ask your wife if she's ready and she is...
A quartz watch is incomparable with a mechanical counterpart. I own both sje073 and a GS SBGA203. GS costs twice as much as sje073. Moreover, SJE073 is not a everyday watch, more of a dress watch. GS is much more comfortable to wear too.
@@engineer_wannabe ok so both around the 2k usd mark. Nice. I picked up a vintage grand seiko that I found in basically 9.5/10 condition. That's gonna be my baby until I can go full spring drive
I was looking at high-end Presage Seikos, but once the option of Grand Seiko was presented to me, I think that's definitely the way to go. Initially I was a bit apprehensive due to the quartz movement, but after reading up on the movement, I was really able to appreciate the engineering put into it and I think the movement is far nicer than the automatics used in this price level of Seiko. The finishing and attention to detail is just in a league above, paired with the reliability of the movement.
GS all day long. That quartz movement is exceptional.
For sure. So is the finishing!
Fifty years between servicing, not counting battery changes. That’s just insane good quality. And saying “lower end” Grand Seiko sounds like “cheap” Bugatti.
not the entry level GS. the spring drive is where it gets better. spring drive is in the mid range and above in grand Seiko
the presage is the better buy here. its action is much smoother than the base GS.
@@Pete...NoNotThatOne Well i bought a Seiko quartz watch in 1978 it was not an expensive watch with a 7546 movement. It still runs perfectly never needed any service so i expect it will go on running for another 8 years more and it will be 50 years old...So 50 years between services seems also something a middle of the road Seiko can do...
Saying Cheap GS is saying
Heap BS.
Grand Seiko is the grail of seiko watches.
I live for this sh1t 😅😁
It’s like when realtors suggest buying the cheapest home in the nicest area, rather than the most expensive home in a less desirable area
To use you analogy, the value of the expensive home in a cheap area will drop (never buy the most expensive home in an area - the price will always drop when compared to other homes in the same area!) and the value of the cheapest home in an expensive area will rise.
When it comes to real estate, it’s all about location. So definitely a cheaper home in an appreciating area/city > an expensive home in the middle of the boonies.
NAh man. Grand Seiko any day of the week hands down
Based on the legacy and the workmanship alone, I would go with the quartz GS hands down!
Good comparison. Honestly didn’t even think of it even though I own the black version of that grand seiko. It definitely takes a second to rationalize having such an expensive quartz when the hobby tries to ingrain the idea, at least from what I’ve experienced, that anything above 200,if even that, for a quartz is overpriced. I enjoy mind, looking down at it you can definitely tell the quality at least in my opinion. Glad to see some other with GS quartz out there!
I own the black one as well (SBGX261) . The 9F movement is honestly so cool. I think it's an essential part of Grand Seiko and the quality is stunning to say the least
Those quartz Grand Seikos are just gorgeous watches.
I recently purchased the Presage model because of the dial. It's true that the finishing and engineering of all Grand Seikos are superior, but that frost dial just mesmerizes me. The thinness of the case was also a factor.
The Frost dial is really beautiful for sure 🙂
Grand seikos also have snowflake frost dials
if you have enough budget, go for GS.
Although it is not automatic but the GS quartz is different from normal quartz. The quality of the body and detail is still big different between Seiko top end and GS.
Grand seiko for sure. The work, design and craftsmanship on ever single part of that watch is absolutely masterful.
I purchased the Presage last January. Great watch.
Great choice and congrats!
I have a low end presage and love it, but that grand seiko.. oof, im definitely getting one whenever I start making some real money.
Have a look on crono24 you can pick up a used one that looks new for a great price.
Grand seiko is the only luxury manufacturer that can pull off expensive quarts movements cause of their history. I'll be happy with any grand seiko.
Citizen Chronomaster has been putting Seiko's HAQ offerings to shame for many years. Shame they are JDM only!
@@johnanthif you wanna talk about flagship. citizen focuses on quarts so they better. Seiko focus a lot more on mechanical, automatic, and spring drive. They do have a some quarts models but seikos flagship focus is on spring srive. Which citizens can't touch seikos spring drive movement. When it comes to quarts yes they may be slightly better. But that's what citizen has its full focus on. So they better be better.
I think I'll probably end up with a quarts grand seiko later in life just because you don't need to service as much as an automaticand I'll probably want to live care free.
The SJE073J1 is a very nice watch, and as you mentioned the dial is stunning as well as the blued seconds hand. The only downside I see with this and other cheap, but not cheap mechanical watches if that eventually they will need a service that could be a third or so the cost of the watch itself. The GS just requires a battery that you could carefully change at home. Its sealed movement should provide a lifetime of service.
Thank you brother! I fell SOOO HARD for the Shunbun, but its way out of my price range... so I was torn between the Pesage's snowflake dial and an entry level GS. Your video really helped me with my decision. The GS may be simple looking, but its elegant and the quality of the fit and finish is stunning... I just need to experience the GS, and I will forever be motivated to make my way up to the Shunbun someday. I appreciate your time 🙏🏾
I own the SBGX263. It will forever be in my collection. I later bought the Shunbun. The SBGX263 packs a lot of punch and stands up against other GS watches, even the Shunbun to be completely honest. The Shubun has the one-and-only Spring Drive movement whereas the SBGX has the over-engineered quartz that is also one-of-a-kind. The SBGX simply over-delivers.
Have three GS Quartz. Love them. No fuss, no muss.
Also have the Snowflake. So beautiful!
GS any day !
I have Grand Seiko Snowflake and Grand Seiko Quartz but I also have 2 Presage as well as Sumos and Turtles. Seiko and Grand Seiko both put out a quality product. Longines Vhp is also an excellent quartz product accurate to like 5 seconds a year.
4:26 That curve (going that unusually far below the caseback) is going to make it wear exceptionally well on a bracelet.
Interesting choice, i have to say the dial on the Seiko is really studnning & I like the style of the bracelet more but you make a great point about the overengineering on the Grand Seiko's movement as well as the general finish, and the hands+indices on GS are just on another level. It's a tough choice but I think i'd go for the GS but the Seiko is definitely punching high above its weight. Great video 👍
Oooof haha this video is going back a while...thanks for watching though, my friend. Yeah it’s a really tough choice. Especially since the Seiko 6L movements come in some really expensive watches now
Grand seiko blows it out the water. Looks a quality watch and that quartz movement is the very best. Like the seiko but you kind of know its not constructed in the same league.
I’m going with the lower end Grand Seiko. I think it’s an amazing watch for the money. I would have already bought one but I just can’t decide between champagne or black. Which is unfortunate because no matter which one I choose I will have that nagging feeling that I picked the wrong one.
Thank you for a very interesting, original and opportune comparison.
Thank you for watching, I'm so glad you found it useful!
I'm surprised with the comments, that sje073 is so classy in metal ( I have one).
That GS feels plain and boring in comparison, even with a springdrive movement I would still pick the seiko regardless of the price.
Also that sje073 isn't that dressy, it does have some sport casual vibes too, and it's a strap monster.
Easy to dress up or down to your liking.
And lastly I'd say the case profile is truly special.
Ymmv 👌🏻
Nice review buddy, thank you 🙏🏻
Thanks for this video! It helped me with the purchase of the black dial version of the Grand Seiko (SBGX261).
Thanks for watching and congrats! That black dial is amazing. Almost an anthracite or graphite kinda black that's very difficult to describe.
Absolute the Presage
G.S more for the older men above the 70
Also the Limited Seiko is
More original, perfect special automatic 6l35 and 100% the collectible from those 2
I own the Grand Seiko SBGX319 and agree the overall package of the SBGX line with the 9F HAQ is amazing 👍👍
The Grand Seiko are another level from the normal Seiko range even the higher end. All Grand Seiko receive the same level of case finishing.
Exactly the review I was looking for. Great channel. You gained a subscriber
Thank you very much, that's very kind of you!
The Seiko is much better looking with a lovely mesmerizing dial & understated classy presence & smoothness… The GS here looks like a generic “nice” watch to me…I’m in the minority here looking at the comments section but without a doubt I’d go with that rare Seiko over the cheap Grand Seiko - moreover 20 years from now I bet that rare Seiko is worth a lot of money whereas that cheap Grand Seiko will be lucky to hold its value….
I have GS SBGA413 and this SJE173, and outside of the movement they're nearly identical. In fact I could make an argument that 173 is better because the clasp when closed is flush with the bracelet, the GS clasp sticks out, also the 173 is thinner than my GS. Make no mistake, the SJE173 has GS finishing.
Of course the main difference is the movement, 6L35 vs spring drive 9R35. Hard to compare a spring drive and a mechanical movement, it's mostly preference I believe, but I'll personally give that to the win to the 9R65. Now if the 6L35 were adjusted to 5 or 6 positions, well now we're talking a dead heat IMHO.
I paid $1800 for SJE173 and $6300 in trade dollars to get the SBGA413.
Oh man, I love the SBGA413. I'm disappointed that it wasn't released in Canada. Two stunning watches you have there, my friend!
bullshit bro
@@abd02400 really bro? Explain
Great answer bro!
Cool video! Really nicely done. Just for the sake of being complete: You seem to omit that the Grand Seiko's real estate on the dial, that is the indices and hands, are lightyears ahead of the Presage. Then the blue hand on the Presage isn't heat treated steel, but rather painted, which gives a particular vibe that isn't as it should be at this price point. The 6L35 is a solid movement though. I have it in the King Seiko limited, but the quartz is more special. They are both cracking watches, but I'll take the Grand Seiko quartz any day of the week. Also because the 37 x 44 x 10mm sizing is so eminently wearable. It's fantastic. Thanks for posting this though.
Actually the SJE073J1/SARA015 seconds hand is heat treated. The SARX055 blued seconds hand is painted.
What are you talking about? The hands are heat treated.
First class , just ordered a GS Quartz 👍
Congrats my friend! Thank you for watching!
Sold my SARX055 and other Presages for a recently discontinued 39mm GS SBGA285. Best decision ever.
All grand seikos have the same quality hand finishing en detailing . They go through a rigorous process . Also the 9f quartz movement is one the best quartz out there together with high end citizen
I'd be happy with either.
Thanks for the video, I’ve purchased sbgx261 and I love it, I also like how that seiko looks, how does it look on the wrist in comparison with GS, doesn’t it look big on your wrist ? Thank you
GS obviously. Only issue is the zaratsu polishing scratches very easily.
The cheaper looks better in my opinion but the quartz gs is a stunner. A real, honest accurate watch. Lovely pointer btw.
Between the 2 options. I would go for the sje073. No offense to that GS, but the sje073 is much more comfortable to wear.
@@MPD90 the sje073 has comfitex technology that made the watch more comfortable to wear.
@@MPD90 diashield coating is a different feature of the watch and different from comfitex technology. Too bad, i could not see the sje073 in the seiko prestige line of presage. All are mentioned there in the specification.
@@MPD90 as of now, i dont see of any application of comfitex in new existing models. Commonly it is in brightz models. Anyways, try and check in watchuseek forums, there is a bit of explanation. Anyways, this is just my knowledge.
Thanks for the review. It's exactly what I was looking for and a great help.
So glad that I was able to help in some way 😄
I like the dial of the SJE
Hello there! Thank you for its very nice review and point of view. I’ll buy a Same GS 😉 (from JP.
Hello :)
Thank you for watching! Enjoy the GS!
GS without question? GS Quartz is a no-brainer. Some days I don’t want to wear the watch and when I do I don’t have to reset it, wind it, blah blah blah. Classic luxury and design and no work just enjoyment and pride of ownership.
GS without a doubt
I really wanted a Rolex Oyster P, but the price is ridiculous (and unjustified, as it's a just marketing ploy!) So I've ordered the GS with a bone white face. Great video, helped me make up my mind on digging into my savings!
Great choice, hope you enjoy it for many years to come! The white face is gorgeous. I was trying to choose between the white face and this one for quite a while :)
Excellent video and two superb watches you have. I would take the GS as that model is in my cross hairs, my taste is now for a slimmer and lighter watch to wear. It’s also the next step in my Seiko collection.
Good choice! Thanks for watching and for the kind words!
I like the presage one,I just wish they didnt put it on the watch.It would look cleaner without the presage name on it.
Yes, I also heard DiaShield subdues the polishing and blurs the brushing grain.
This is exactly where King Seiko needs to be positioned. COSC grade manual and autos for a price in between presage and GS.
That GS was extremely nice
Excellent video, thank you very much
That's very kind. Thanks for watching!
The busy subsecond chapter ring on the Presage just absolutely destroys that dial for me. To me the Presage looks like a cheap watch trying way too hard.
The Grand Seiko is gorgeous. Not a hard choice for me. I think above the $100 mark or so, Seiko never delivers compared to its competitors. Under Grand Seiko money, at every price tier above about $100, you're better off with Orient, Citizen, Hamilton, or micros like Tsao, Zelos, etc...
Grand for me
Subbed, appreciate reviews by another Seiko nut.
Hey thanks, I really appreciate that :)
I have to go for the looks regardless of price and the presage looks 10 times better than the GS here so id go for the presage it doesnt matter about anything else if it doesnt look great i will barely wear it or not at all. So even if the GS was some how cheaper id pass on it for the presage between the 2 shown.
No the GS is built to a higher standard but it costs more.
@@Art-is-craft no shit did you even read what i typed?
Great review keep up the good work !
Hey, thank you so much :)
The GS is a much more beautiful piece of jewelry. As a watch, although I love mechanical movements, the I own the 6R35 in the Seiko, and I am not impressed. I find mine to be disappointingly inaccurate. So I prefer the GS, despite the quartz movement. Overall, the GS is much finer in all respects.
This is a 6L35 not the 6R35…. the 6L35 is on another level than the 6R35. The Seiko is better looking than the Grand Seiko here… Moreover the rarity of the Seiko here will be more valuable than this low end Grand Seiko in the future I’d bet.
I'm a big fan of automatic, SEIKO is great in both, automatic and quartz
Having owned high end presage, as well as grand seiko, and the king seiko reissue in red.
I think both the king and GS are one step ahead interms of finishing compared to presage. And surprisingly I think the king seikos are built better than the low end quartz grand seikos. Those cheaper GS have nice polish on the case but that's pretty much it. The bracelets are sooo bad on the cheape rGS compared to high end presage and is not even comparable to the king seiko braclet which I think is up to GS level I think. If the king seiko had a 6L movment it would be easily over 3000 dollars. So I think of it as a budget and more every day wearing GS since it's more brushed and will show less scratches. The very high presages still r unique and great especially the porcelain dials.
Affordable Grand Seiko everytime. I have 2 Seiko Presage watches with the 6R15 movement. They are beautiful but the time keeping is horrendous. I have been told it is a problem with the hairsprings.
Well said, good sir.
What should I choose?
A Renault Clio...
Or a Bugatti Chiron?🤔🤔🤔
Tough call. But I believe I'm with you. GS. Great video. Thanks.
Thank you for watching!
I'd love to see you review the Sinn 104 vs Damascus
Between this 2, for me the Seiko Presage any day, slimmer and better looking in general, better dial, better movement, better looking bracelet, same finishing and not to mention the limited edition.
Seiko and Grand Seiko are separate companies SINCE 2017
I pick Grand Seiko since I actually purchased the SBGP001)
It would help if you kept your hands steadier when holding the watch up and talking. The jerky images can be distracting. Also, almost halfway into the video and no mention of case diameters, or lug-to-lug width?
I think the SARB would be a perfect fit for your hand size , i am amazed that you dont own one ;)
I have the snowflake and this baby snowflake. I have 2 9f. One is similar to this, sbgx265 which I bought for my younger son. The other is the sbgv237 which i bought for my elder son. This is has very nice case design. The side profile is really something. Anyway, both watches reviewed are nice.
Seiko and GS truly make some excellent pieces!
There's another way of going about this - buy a slightly used mid-tier GS in mint condition from a Japanese dealer for the same price. That way, you don't even need to consider these two.
Good question
Have sje073 thinking about selling it to get that GS, because of size difference.
The presage is better and the dial is amazing. The GS looks like it’s trying to hard to be a Rolex and it’s a quartz so huge turn off, its the overpriced watch here considering it’s a quartz.
The video doesn't show how much better the gs is, you need to see it. Quartz or mechanical, after 15 mechanical watches its nice to open the box and find a watch with the correct time..its like when you ask your wife if she's ready and she is...
100%, everything you said.
Thanks for watching :)
it is the hands on the GS just look better
Had SBGX261 and loved it. Looking for similar but titanium, anybody had any experience with that?
I'd go for the Grand Seiko. :)
A quartz watch is incomparable with a mechanical counterpart. I own both sje073 and a GS SBGA203. GS costs twice as much as sje073. Moreover, SJE073 is not a everyday watch, more of a dress watch. GS is much more comfortable to wear too.
This two watches are not at same price....presage is about 900e and gs Quartz is more than 2000e
Mention the price...
What are the direct price comparisons??
In Canada, they were priced exactly the same if I'm not mistaken ($2700 CAD)
@@engineer_wannabe ok so both around the 2k usd mark. Nice. I picked up a vintage grand seiko that I found in basically 9.5/10 condition. That's gonna be my baby until I can go full spring drive
@@rajgill7576 Very nice, that's an exciting find! And yes, Spring Drive is a "must own/experience" for us watch guys haha
great topic. the video does help. the grand seiko is sharper in the video.
Thank you very much!
GS for me
The Presage looks dated and out of proportion with that oversized dial
Dial and hands on GS are not comparable to Seiko. It's hand work.
I got a brand new Sje073, i dont like dress watches. How can i sell this any recommendations?
Jubi Hi How much $ would you be willing to let it go for?
@@iffatchowdhury25 1500 fixed
Jubi Hi did you ever sell your watch or is it still available ?
@@beckfordautosales5188 i did on chrono 24. Got 1400
Rather have the Quartz GS. The 6r35 is garbage.
Wrong watch mate. It’s the SARX with the 6R35
No info on the case size! Oh my!!🙁🙁🙁😕😕😕
Grand Seiko
Quartz watches never.
Why couldn’t you just tell us the price. To get an Overall feel compared to all watches. Headache
You really did not examine the quality of the dials closely enough. The GS is way better finished on every part of the dial. Very bad review.
I’m sorry you feel that way 😊
Your hand...grosss!!
Good morning to you too 😄