Wow, one of the best instructional videos I've seen explaining how to get to the snatch. Also the progression explanation at the end really clarified things for me. Thank you!
Thank you so much for all these videos. Not that I'm expecting anything less, but I'm still amazed by the concise clarity of the cues and clues. What you say that you coach people to coach themselves, that's totally true.
Copped a calf muscle injury the other day which precludes me from doing my usual standing clean and press until it heals. Substituted this one, it feels really good, will add it to the programme from now on.
I was always convinced I'd injure myself with the snatch, but when I tried it I found it wasn't as bad as I thought. Many moms later I still enjoy working it into cycles
how do you not hit your junk? i tried half kneeling clean and press then and keep contacting myself. Is this move harder / near impossible depending on your torso / limb lengths?
Depending on one's anthropometry, one may end up hitting the KB on the ground... Sure, one can do some fancy things (yoga/foam blocks under the knee and/or feet) to pre-empt this, but.....................
Living life on the edge there. This one goes wrong, it’s a wrecking ball to the crotch or the knee. Maybe that focuses the mind…Kinda feel like the full snatch is less dangerous 😱
@@aristotelsb8874 you’re balanced on one knee so you can’t jump out of the way, it’s falling at a greater momentum from the overhead height, and you’ve narrowed the aperture that your sending the kettlebell through, would be three off the top of my head.
@@saoc8800which means you should use a lighter weight and use this as practice. This is a technique drill, not an exercise in itself, well … it could be, I guess … This will force you to use a lighter weight so you focus on your technique rather than just muscling through the reps … you try a dead drop snatch with this and it’s bouncing off the floor. If you hit your groin with the bell you have a special type of skill or really short arms since that’s virtually impossible to do if you keep your arm straight like you are supposed to. I would say it’s impossible, but then someone will do it just to show everyone that it is ‘possible’ 😂 That said, would I do them regularly? Probably not, since I can snatch already and most kneeling exercises are … tricky, but that’s the point. You do a more complex exercise so the simpler exercises seem easier 😁
I think the kettlebell swing is more like the most important exercise, because many of the more challenging exercises (like clean and press or snatch) build up on it. You should be really good at the two handed swing before going to the others.
This is a seriously innovative angle, why does this work better as a training method versus standing up. Obvious you could train the half-snatch ( up and down ) standing up, that's establised. I always thought the half-kneeling position was a progression from the standard position, because you remove that lower body stability from the equation. Using that logic, half-kneeling exercises are more taxing, and hence less ideal for initial training. For these reasons I have doubts why you would start someone snatch training from this position... With lower weights and if proven with novices, sweet, but doesnt this need more proof of concept? Having said all that, I love the idea that this method could teach people the snatch better :)
Gravity momentum on downswing is less in half kneeling. He's taking away some of the quote "terrifying part" as the bell could theoretically just be dropped all of 3" at the bottom of the swing, in case someone messed up their timing.
@hazelmaines2040 I wanted to buy in, swear :) , I'd stand corrected if there are any physics whizzes to chime in..... Disagree on the fall.... The bell travels through the same arc ( I think of the arm as a simple pendulum and the height it drops is equal in both cases) , so the force produced is the same. Gravity at these ranges is negligable, as a thought experiment...do the snatch at a lower elevation ( in a hole / depression ) that brings the height of bell-top to the same as when half-kneeling, its essentially the same force / feel as doing a standing snatch at ground level, the same goes for half-kneeling. I can agree that the perception is you'd be closer to the ground and hence could feel more comfortable ( less terrifying ) but you could argue that kneeling gives you less freedom to bale on the lift if something went wrong ( standing you're more free to adjust ) and it must be subjective no ? It's a great exercise in its own right, not convinced it's a good progression to learning the full snatch, interesting though :) Also I go back to the idea of half-kneeling kb presses or half-kneeling club shield casts. Would anyone coach the kettlebell press in a half-kneeling position to start with ? No you learn the press standing and later drop weight and explore the benefits of half-kneeling, the reason it's beneficial ( I've learned here and elsewhere) is because you've removed a natural base of support ( your legs ! ) and the body adjusts forcing benefits, why remove this support from the snatch early doors? But anyway, so what, whatever works 💪
@@cioran1754 OK fair enough. I'm assuming KB coaches have experience of what holds some people back on progressing with snatches, whether physical or mental. I learned the snatch from a standing position and wasn't too terrified, probably because I started with only an 8kg. . I wouldn't snatch a bell at a weight that I couldn't confidently C&P though. If I can half kneel C&P a weight, I know I can do a full snatch standing with it. As you say, whatever works and whichever drills help build confidence or challenge an aspect that refines their overall snatch form....
Wow, one of the best instructional videos I've seen explaining how to get to the snatch. Also the progression explanation at the end really clarified things for me. Thank you!
Thank you so much for all these videos. Not that I'm expecting anything less, but I'm still amazed by the concise clarity of the cues and clues. What you say that you coach people to coach themselves, that's totally true.
I don't know what's happened to my feed but I'm so pleased to see another MW KB video pop up. Love your KB tekkas and programming vids.
Always amazing coaching and awesome content from @MarkWildman!
Copped a calf muscle injury the other day which precludes me from doing my usual standing clean and press until it heals. Substituted this one, it feels really good, will add it to the programme from now on.
I was always convinced I'd injure myself with the snatch, but when I tried it I found it wasn't as bad as I thought. Many moms later I still enjoy working it into cycles
awesome, thanks!
Curious, what advantages do advanced athletes gain by thumbs up? Seems like maybe a speed thing to alter the path the bell travels.
Thank you sir. Kick ass as always!💪🏻💣👍🏻
how do you not hit your junk? i tried half kneeling clean and press then and keep contacting myself. Is this move harder / near impossible depending on your torso / limb lengths?
Yeah. Down is hard part. Grinding palm, fear of breaking floor.
Depending on one's anthropometry, one may end up hitting the KB on the ground...
Sure, one can do some fancy things (yoga/foam blocks under the knee and/or feet) to pre-empt this, but.....................
Living life on the edge there. This one goes wrong, it’s a wrecking ball to the crotch or the knee. Maybe that focuses the mind…Kinda feel like the full snatch is less dangerous 😱
My thoughts exactly! I thought that was just me thinking it's crazy idea...
In what way is this more likely to hit your groin compared to a full snatch/swing/clean?
i tried it then and was contacting my groin but never do on the full version@@aristotelsb8874
@@aristotelsb8874 you’re balanced on one knee so you can’t jump out of the way, it’s falling at a greater momentum from the overhead height, and you’ve narrowed the aperture that your sending the kettlebell through, would be three off the top of my head.
@@saoc8800which means you should use a lighter weight and use this as practice. This is a technique drill, not an exercise in itself, well … it could be, I guess … This will force you to use a lighter weight so you focus on your technique rather than just muscling through the reps … you try a dead drop snatch with this and it’s bouncing off the floor.
If you hit your groin with the bell you have a special type of skill or really short arms since that’s virtually impossible to do if you keep your arm straight like you are supposed to. I would say it’s impossible, but then someone will do it just to show everyone that it is ‘possible’ 😂
That said, would I do them regularly? Probably not, since I can snatch already and most kneeling exercises are … tricky, but that’s the point. You do a more complex exercise so the simpler exercises seem easier 😁
I always thought that the kettlebell swing was the king of all kettlebell exercises.
I think the kettlebell swing is more like the most important exercise, because many of the more challenging exercises (like clean and press or snatch) build up on it. You should be really good at the two handed swing before going to the others.
@@steelmacetobster Ok I understand now. That makes total sense. Thanks for the response!
Looks like you're in Palm Springs.
This is a seriously innovative angle, why does this work better as a training method versus standing up.
Obvious you could train the half-snatch ( up and down ) standing up, that's establised.
I always thought the half-kneeling position was a progression from the standard position, because you remove that lower body stability from the equation.
Using that logic, half-kneeling exercises are more taxing, and hence less ideal for initial training.
For these reasons I have doubts why you would start someone snatch training from this position...
With lower weights and if proven with novices, sweet, but doesnt this need more proof of concept?
Having said all that, I love the idea that this method could teach people the snatch better :)
Gravity momentum on downswing is less in half kneeling. He's taking away some of the quote "terrifying part" as the bell could theoretically just be dropped all of 3" at the bottom of the swing, in case someone messed up their timing.
@hazelmaines2040 I wanted to buy in, swear :) , I'd stand corrected if there are any physics whizzes to chime in.....
Disagree on the fall....
The bell travels through the same arc ( I think of the arm as a simple pendulum and the height it drops is equal in both cases) , so the force produced is the same.
Gravity at these ranges is negligable, as a thought experiment...do the snatch at a lower elevation ( in a hole / depression ) that brings the height of bell-top to the same as when half-kneeling, its essentially the same force / feel as doing a standing snatch at ground level, the same goes for half-kneeling.
I can agree that the perception is you'd be closer to the ground and hence could feel more comfortable ( less terrifying ) but you could argue that kneeling gives you less freedom to bale on the lift if something went wrong ( standing you're more free to adjust ) and it must be subjective no ?
It's a great exercise in its own right, not convinced it's a good progression to learning the full snatch, interesting though :)
Also I go back to the idea of half-kneeling kb presses or half-kneeling club shield casts. Would anyone coach the kettlebell press in a half-kneeling position to start with ? No you learn the press standing and later drop weight and explore the benefits of half-kneeling, the reason it's beneficial ( I've learned here and elsewhere) is because you've removed a natural base of support ( your legs ! ) and the body adjusts forcing benefits, why remove this support from the snatch early doors?
But anyway, so what, whatever works 💪
@@cioran1754 OK fair enough. I'm assuming KB coaches have experience of what holds some people back on progressing with snatches, whether physical or mental. I learned the snatch from a standing position and wasn't too terrified, probably because I started with only an 8kg.
. I wouldn't snatch a bell at a weight that I couldn't confidently C&P though. If I can half kneel C&P a weight, I know I can do a full snatch standing with it.
As you say, whatever works and whichever drills help build confidence or challenge an aspect that refines their overall snatch form....
@hazelmaines2040 good sum up 👌, we're not short of great interesting exercises here anyway :)