How Did Pre-Steroid Bodybuilders Get So F***ing Jacked??
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Great video, I think these historic lifting topics really suit you.
You should try isometric exercise and eccentric exercise and also learn muscle control
I did not watch the original video, the title "History of Bodybuilding Documentary" would have been much better IMHO. Because that is legit what you did and something no other creator ever did in this detail.. You really created something amazing here, sad that i overlooked because i thought it would just be some training programs compared.
But a Doc at this detail on the history of bodybuilding? Hell Yeah!
Ah.. Just saw people whining about title changes below.. F them.
15:06 "most done without repeating excersises" means only 1 set with 10-15 reps?
To summarize: Heavy compound movements, good nutrition & rest, & progressive overload.
Niceee, saved me 15 minutes, thank man
Wow, simply revolutionary, no one ever heard of that before.
@@Vladimyrful😂
@@VladimyrfulHeard but never followed. What is actually followed : Science
@@pigeon-hater2267 I don't understand?
It's worth mentioning that EVERYTHING was harder then. You want dinner? You're walking to a butcher, a farm stand, AND a baker, and carrying it home. There's no refrigerator. Someone's cutting the wood to make the fire to make dinner with. Everything was just harder. Even pooping
I grew up in the 80's and I second this, even back then something as simple as say TYPING, I learned on a manual typewriter with heavy ass keys and a manual return took hand and finger strength. I remember being a little kid and still thinking the automatic doors at supermarkets were cool, likewise the powered windows on my rich uncles car and his remote control for his tv(!)
All little things but there have been a dozen of those over the years, them calories add up.
Nonsense. Taco Bell easily makes modern pooping a battle no caveman would win.
@@joalvarado8506 especially since pooping yourself to death was a pretty common way to die until like the 1920s
Pooping was harder because you had to walk to the out house.
the ice box was invented in 1802. People were more active but life was no more harder or easier than it is today.
I like that the author of Sherlock Holmes judged the first bodybuilding contest ever.
Sir Arthur Swollen Doyle
Sir Arthur Swollen DYEL
😂
Swol Doyle rules!
He was a pornstar.
"Do you even lift bruh?" (c) A. Swollen Dyel, ca 1901*
Been training 40 years! No juice no special diet just hard work..Still ripped af at 53 years old!!!
And I’d say you’re stiff as a board from all the weights!
Rock on brother. Haters gonna hate.
Just checked your channel garageman brutal training keep it up grandpa
Damn you started at 13 sick
He started training his right hand at that age and switched to the whole body workout later.
Bodybuilding contests need more singing and gymnastic events
I wanna see Markus Ruhl do ballet@ErgBerg1998
ehhhm...Magic?
I would love that. Better than the dry sterile competitions we have now. Although Idk to what degree the gymnastic events should go. Go too far and you lose out on size. Maybe Bromley can form his own bodybuilding/powerlifting contest
pose routines kind of already a dance, but maybe like some acrobatics or contortion included in that would be cool, whoever can do all that and still be the biggest wins
Gymnasts unironically look better than most bodybuilders.
"lifting a horse ... upside down" like wtf
i need to add that to my training
You should, it's really made the difference for me 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Yes, but be smart like me. Start small. Start with a Poodle then work you way up depending on the animals available. I'm all the way up to a Pony right now. Soon will come the horse.
@@donjuantrumpetajohnsonAs someone that has lived with ponies. You are already strong asf
I lift blue whales upside down
I mean it
Well no it's a lie
Man, people that complain about title and thumbnail changes are ungrateful af. These things can make a difference between a video having no views or a million views, without changing the quality of the video. Don't let the people get to you, Bromley! You rock!
Yeah i dont get it. He's making great vids. Who cares about title changes
@@theItalianshamrockobviously you do since you’re commenting about it.
Yeah more views from the same people thinking it's a new video. Just make a new video. Your supposed to be a content creator not a lazy click bait maker. I didn't know he does that .... Definitely gotta unsubscribe now.
@@PACHOUSEFITNESS there are constantly new viewers coming in. Do you run your own successful youtube business? I have a feeling that if you did, you would have a different way of talking about this
I literally didnt notice because 1) I dont care and 2) I watch the video and move on. It boggles my mind why anyone would give a shit
There has always been individuals who built muscle easier and faster than the average person, that in combination with on average much higher testosterone levels is the reason.
Its not always testosterone being the main factor. Although you are right. Its still a factor thats important. Just overall genetics. You can have a dude that's skinny or pudgy and short, with more test than someone bigger and broader shoulders. Also you give 2 people steroids. And 1 might not gain even half the amount as the other.
Much higher test, organic food, clean water, clean air
Imagine how people would look at Cbum with his current physique back then
Probably like some sort of monster tbh
Same as those viewing the original Hercules actor from 1959 vs Arnold in Conan probably. 😀
Pitchforks and torches, my friend.
Would have thought he has some sort of tumor in his muscles most likely.
I swear ever since I've been subbed, I'll have a random thought about something gym related and then the next time I'm on YT there's a video by you on the home page about that very thing.
Also, I get a huge smirk on my face whenever I go through my old comics and magazines and see those Atlas program ads.
The algorithm K Nowith. All!!
Good to see another tuber finally covering Oldtime (sort of) bodybuilding, would love to see some bronze era strongman specific stuff, I cover this myself but as a small channel next to nobody see’s it
Keep strongman a circus act with freaky feats of strength. I actually stumbled on my copy of professor Attila's 5lb dumbbell book when tidying up today.
Thats awesome piece of histroy!
Clasic physique with no oversized chest🙏
They didn't train the pecs in those days. That's why they're flat-chested.
@@Bruce_Wayne35looks less gay.
@@AIDS_survivor okay little chest
or bubble guts !!
Wouldn’t be surprised if food quality was a major factor.
Right. Far less chemicals and things of that nature.
@@bofi1280 chemicals in the water have a huge affect on natural testosterone levels.
It doesn’t
@@carbonzo6 It does since the water has been comprised for decades now (30+ years). along with testosterone levels, air quality, genes and training types.
Sure food quality is atrocious, but the bigger impact on Testosterone levels has to do with being fat. End of story.
Interesting historical fact:
The short film showing a part of Sandow's posing routine
was the first recorded motion
picture ever( yeah, let that sink
for a moment).
Edison and Sandow were re-
portedly the first to believe that this type of entertainment
could have a future at all, while
others fought it was a complete bullshit idea at the
time.
One might argue that Edison and Sandow were on to
something. 😂
Anyone that says "better food quality" or "higher testosterone" is coping. Nothing stopping you from making whole foods to get your balanced diet.
Testosterone is also lower due to obesity definitely is a factor. And a lot of those guys lifted with techniques or practices that would be considered inefficient today and still got jacked. No excuses
It's lower since the quality of food is shite along with chemicals and additives added to our water. Plus less need to go out and get things as well. You want to eat a High fat and high protein diet anyways, a 'balanced' diet is a load of shite, unless your body specifically needs such a diet to function properly. And if you want to get clever you can ask the numerous people and the Inuit's how they managed to stay healthy and heal many chronic illnesses just eating animal products.
And yes Testosterone was higher back then. No excuse for your questionable grammar either. Also no excuse on your ignorance on economics and how the vast majority of people do not have the money nor time to do such a thing. But I am sure you will come up with a bollocks set of excuses as to why they can.
1. They didn't have testosterone lowering micro plastics running through their bodies 24/7.
2. They didn't have Atrazine and Fluoride in their water supply.
3. They didn't have the awful seed oils and the wide variety of addictive processed foods to choose from like we do today.
4. They didn't try to build muscle on broccoli, rice and grilled chicken because they weren't fed the anti beef and egg propaganda.
5. They didn't "Dirty Bulk" which is an excuse for body builders to eat as much junk food as possible to "build muscle".
This is an aspect of bodybuilding i wouldve never thought was so gaddam interesting
I'd say they ate less carbs and pretty much no highly processed food.
Carbs are good, they give you energy for workouts and any physical activity.
@@Las645 I'm not saying carbs as such are bad. I'm just saying that one's diet shouldn't be dominated by carbs. Nowadays people eat way too many carbs (especially sugars).
@@dctPLwrong lmaoooo carbs is literally more important than protein wtf you on 🤣
@@animalscars3799 Carbs turn into sugar in the body, carbs from one source are better than others. Its healthier to get your carbs from fruits and vegetables than it is to get it from the overly processed wheat/rice products that lack traditional fermentation, whole nutrients due to bleaching, and are made with seed oils.
@@animalscars3799What the fuck are *you* on? 😂🤣 It's always so entertaining when some ass-ignorant person believes the direct opposite of a widely-known truth and is so goddamn arrogantly confident about it. 🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡
This is a good question - please dont forget that the poison in environment and food, esp microsplastic, decrease the testosterone across the male population. This is already a problem during the development of the embryo. An additional proof - the fertility of men is way lower than 1980. Check the interview on impact theory with a biologists (female).
They had lead and industrial waste pollution back then
@@kaizenproductions00 Yes - but obviously still more testosterone… maybe at that time the pollution was more localized in specific places - nowadays it is way more proliferated. Environmental poison also had time to accumulate in gonads over time and generations. Also the food was much better. I heard somewhere that eating 1 orange in 1920 would give the same nutrients as eating 8 oranges today. Well - but nowadays we have TRT and/or Steroids :D. Easy.
Because everyone is fat and lazy. Stop coping. Theres no difference between you and them. They just werent sedentary whales
Loved the vid. Thought it ended too suddenly
Mr Bromley. Hails from Bromley, South East London.
And awesome video much appreciated
I still know dozens of nattys who look better and are stronger than 90% of people on TRT
Some pure natty stats on a traditional german/silesian diet: 180cm, 100kg BW, 15 years of training - 300kg Deadlift, 10.5s sprint, 50cm arms, 80cm thighs, 45cm forearms, 50cm calves, row training is 140kgx8, german silesian prussian genetics, white blonde.
My brother easily pulled 300kg deadlift with 2 years of training at 20yo 120kg bw at 1.85m on a traditional german diet.
The thing is, in Germany we mostly hate people who roid, but there are tons of genetics who could easily pull 450kg and more. But in Germany roiding is either for immigrants or for bodybuilders.
Dude, this is awesome! Just imagine the downsides of old recovery (injury) methods in place back then. I have had to do things that way for the last few years. Shoulder injury either early last year or the year before that still is annoying to this day. Pro tip: don't freak out and attempt 100 pushups and thirty pull ups in the same day. And yes, I attempted those in sets of 10 for the push ups and 5 on the pullups.
I'm 54 years old, I started natural bodybuilding when I was 18,I gained 50 pounds of muscle over 7 years, because I thought I could, and in 1988,I had no access to steroids, or knowledge of steroids, and I'm glad.a young healthy person can transform into a heavily muscled person without drugs.
Dedication! Plain and simple. It'll take longer than it would with gear and limited to size and strength but getting jacked natty is possible.
I have done this myself, I was in prison which helped. I can remember the majority of the gym goers were all strong, some leaner than others as you will find in most gyms.
I remained natty till 38 and have used gear over the remaining 11 years so can clearly see the benefits to either gear or not.
What was your prison workouts like?
They did high frequency training and never to failure.
What's your source? I've looked into a lot of the classic greats and they seem to follow a lot of different practices and protocols, it was kind of a wild west to my understanding.
@@_Sp4c3y_ read Pavel Tsatsouline’s: Power to the People. “Feeling the burn” was not a priority of the greatest classic lifters like Arthur Saxon. It was intentionally avoided. They were much better at empirical observations since they didn’t have social media, only experience.
Interesting
Better food, higher testosterone, better character and higher discipline.
Also weight training was not mainstream, meaning the ones that did were most likely to be individuals with an aptitude for developing muscles.
most likely to be individuals with an aptitude for developing muscles? thats Not 100% true,you are generalizing that they where most likely,individuals with an aptitude for developing muscles. Many actually started out frail and used weights to build themselves up. Read the following books "Superstrength" by Alan Calvert,and Physical Strength simplified by Mark H Berry.
Sandow was a sick and frail child. Research before bullshitting
I’m pretty sure being a strongman at some point is an arc of every great man’s lore
Fascinating. They understood what systems/networks/muscles etc were weak by simply looking at them and testing them. The flabby comment is especially compelling, as this is something that becomes beyond obvious when you start to test muscle groups yourself in regards to contractions/muscle tone etc. When I finally stumbled upon this line of methodology myself, I was able to solve all of my back issues/knee issues/shoulder problems etc. They didn't understand the nervous system/brain part of it of course, but they noticed and sensed their bodies likely better than we do today. Really interesting video!
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I spent my morning in the gym used to be the sort of thing that raised eyebrows. Now it’s assumed you spent half that time on your phone.
The point made about valuing movements over body parts resonates with me.
Well before I even took gear, after five years of training clean I was 218 had 18 " arms and benched 400 x 4. Gear gives you no more than 25 % or less. After gear 226 lbs arms 19.5 " and that was about it. If you don't have genetics and work hard no amount of gear going to make you champion.
The early bodybuilders that we still remember today had elite level genetics. Their training was not better than modern day training
genetics take part in training but are overrated, there are two types of people that constantly talk about genetics: the ones who didn't spent years on good training and diet and are whining in the comments they had bad genes, or the ones who spent eyars on steroids but claim it is genetics
@@Nickxxx85 Nope. There's one type of person who thinks genetics don't matter. Those who have great genetics but want to pretend they got their results from working harder than everyone else
@@mustang8206 everyone who spent 5+ years on good training and diet have great physique and don't whine about genes. First time I was in a gym was in summer of 2004 after a year of training in my home. I practically never heard people in the gym talking about genes this and genes that. But on youtube I hear it al the time. Not hard to understand why. Some people train, some people whine, some have experience some theory from youtube
Gaining muscles is probably overcomplicated by media. Most people in the gym don't lift to muscle failure and that's the reason most people stay slim.
NGL< thought this was a full standalone video instead part of "History of Bodybuilding" video.
Still watched it all the way tho
@@rafaelt8589 Same. Just realized it was part of documentary when it suddently ended.
"Wtf...ohhh."
@ErgBerg1998 Me neither. Taking two hours out of life randomly for something is hard to do.
Appreciate the research put into the video, Alex. Keep up the good work!
They weren’t always on the phone at the gym that’s why.
Their natural test levels were on avg much higher. Their food was fresh and natural. Now with pollutants we're chemically castrated and fed processed crap. Nowadays you'd need to be on TRT to match what they could do natty back then.
These were the champions. Genetics, wealthy, from physical culture background, professionals. The rest of the population were skinny as if dying of starvation 😂
as now the majority is fat, lack nutrients and are worked to death.
The secret was the dapper mustaches.
They had a higher natural Testosteron Level than today. They eat cleaner Food and no Plastic and Poison like Today. Sorry for my bad English .
All you have to do to get big is work hard enough, eat enough and sleep enough.
Where I work, every boy who works in the recycling department had arms like a body builder.
That's just excuses ! Hard work, more hard work, and a good diet. Oh, and a lot of serious commitment.
Cope. Work harder.
They lived in a world where lead was in everything and smog blacked out the sky.
Great historic work, thanks, cheers from Germany
Iv been looking for this kind of chan for years thank you Jesus.😂
I've used "double progression most of my life, started while in the Army. It just seemed intuitive that as the weight became too easy, I should increase the weight. I really had no idea it was this old.
How did they get so jacked. Very simple explanation: They were born with excellent genes and they worked very hard, but briefly and infrequently.
Mentzerrrrr
How do I program for lifting a horse upside down??
They got "jacked" by old school photo shopping, which I witnessed first hand, by none other than Lyman Daly, the cartoonist in Muscle & Fitness mag in the 90s. He used an old magazine picture and pencil eraser to accentuate the bodybuilder pictured -- and it looked REAL!!! NO DOUBT IT'S WHAT IS PRESENTED HERE.
They had much higher natural testosterone levels, less chemicals, less microplastics and less outlets for those thick ropes 🤣
Excellent information! Very thorough. Thank you for helping us "naturals" see the awesome potential of the human body, unassisted by drugs!!
Many now days lie about drug use. To me it's pretty obvious. The unfortunate thing is that if you are exceptional and work hard , you are accused of not being natural. I find that a shame, and frustrating.
Keep up the good work!!
Most people who accuse others of steroids are just ignorant and weak, they haven't seen what's possible because they're not talented or hardworking so anything that goes beyond what they think is possible must come from enhancements. These people are the majority in the fitness community since now working out is so popular, so you have some muscular guys being self conscious about their results. I was accused of steroids when I benched 315, that says it all. It's like the new buzzword accusation.
Genetics plays the most important part in how u turn out some people can make fantastic gains in just three months while others might take years and still not get real strong but even if you are just average you will be a lot better off than a person that doesn’t excercise
Cope
Well there is a thing called genetics. Some people truly are easy gainers. I think that people now days have become so jaded by the rampant steroid use that it's become hard to believe that people can naturally get muscular. And it is extremely difficult to become jacked naturally. Which is why you saw so few people who were jacked in the old days. People don't realize that not only do you have to have Greek god genetics you have to basically dedicate your life to training and diet. Even then you probably won't look as good or be as strong as the people using steroids.
They also had more organic food compared to the pesticides being used effecting our hormonal levels
Oldtimers trained frequently but they practiced movements ..just like an archer does archery. Only tested their strengths during events. They ate a lot and even drunk moderately!
Beer is my favorite way to bulk
This seems to be well researched unlike many videos who may depend on youtube rumor. Thank you. Incidentally the 5 lb weights apparently were spring loaded (you had to squeeze the handle).
Homie was viral before viral was viral 😂😎💪🏼
Most of them were well under 6' which certainly helps in terms of the appearance of mass
Love the background music
all i can say this light dumbbell training is extremely intensive for the tendons. so i assume it helps a lot to develop strength. a thickened tendon also enables the muscle itself to develop stronger fiber basis at the main part.
especially the biceps curls with just 5 lbs (excersises 1 and 2 from sandow) will show this clearly.
you will also train into getting used to the burn feeling more and more. you basically learn to still execute a reptition with having a burning muscle already. cause your pain and ability to still move your arm, increases if you stick to this program.
when you learn that you can overpower the muscle above failure your strength with also grow, not just the muscle size. the cool part is, with low weights its much easier to do. cause you cannot really damage something. just overlactate the muscle.
i tested it with 100 reps
i still could go longer cause the weight wasnt much. but i did cut here. and i had to shaken my arms for about 2-3 minutes after i did just to get rid of all that lactate in the muscle and distract me from the unpleasant pain it causes.
you will feel it more afterwards than inside the reps. it was not much pain but it was a really annoying feeling (more like a pressed one that limits movement). only by constantly shaking i got it back to normal feeling. you do not even not wanna do that. you automatically wanna shake your arms. this was new to me.
the other excersises are not that painful. due to not being that high in rep count.
however when done the ones for the abs right. they are also quite heavy intensive. can therefore be recommended.
so we can say he gives you the best start to learn to train hard enough later with higher weights as well. good for newbies indeed.
and this is already strength itself!
the body will automatically due to this effect start storing more nutrients and fluids inside his muscles to be better endure the next session and stress you put him under.
you aquire especially with your arms the strength and power the endurance type fibers give you. you may not had before.
so if someone never did train in such a way before. you can bet this person will aquire more muscle size. cause even the type 1 fibres can hypertrophy a bit. i dont know how much at this point in time. but if it gives you extra power for higher weight lifts and hypertrophy region training as a new trained basis by default. its worth therefore developing it too.
adds to more solid developed ground in my opinion.
they can decide the difference between still being able to do one or 2 more reps with higher weights later. compared to not having trained them at all. cause then its zero more reps.
do not underestimate trained endurance fibres compared to not trained ones.
adds to energy consumption when this is regularly trained. and this adds to more jacked look. such muscles seem to need more consumption compared to not trained in such a way without adding much to feeling of hunger. so they burn the fat a lot. could be a logical explanation if you ask me. pretending you do it often enough to get lean from it.
When I went “weapons free” with my workouts going to failure with either wt or calestenics everything took off.
Do more reps or more weight every workout. When you plateau, add rest. It’s that easy. Fitness media over complicates things.
Acts chapter 2 verse 38.
God Bless Y'all 🙏🙏🙏.
Hard work and patience. Unbelievable that young men today think steroids are a need.
The average Testosterone level in men was much higher back then and the food was way more nutrient dense. Less artificial ingredients and gmos. This is the biggest factor
Cope. People are just fat now. The average american is 35% bodyfat. Thats why test is low. If people werent so lazy itd go up lol
they worked hard instead of cheating with steroids.
Some people are born with extra muscles. Other people can put on muscles very easily, but they are in a very small minority of the population. And some people are born with bigger muscles. In fact some are also born with extra bones. But it actually makes a huge difference.
They worked as children. I had 137 paper route. Started at 8. I don't need roids or hgh either.
Thank you for your research.
Testosterone levels in men are at an all time low. Wonder if that also plays a role
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Dude, you went deep on this one.
One thing I notice about the old guys? Their abs.
we have so many people now that use roids they have ninja turtle builds, or abs that are crooked because they started doing sit-ups/crunches incorrectly from the start.
The old guys look so damn symmetrical and triangular.
I love all the extremely German, Jewish, Polish names.
Yes and here we see Hanz Von Abrahamkinski. He was a dancer that would deadlift tigers.
To the people whining about titles changes: I totally missed the original video, and I am so happy i now have a chance to watch it.
Im pretty sure that men's average testosterone levels was much higher compared to these days
Because people used to not be obese sacks of shit.
Typically American, Georg Hackenschmidt wasn’t Estonian. Estonia wasn’t a state before 1918. He was a Baltic German; he spoke German, he went to a German school, and so on…
His mom was ethnic Estonian and the last 50 of his 90 years of life (and ever since) his birth place was known as Estonia. Every microscopic nation thinks everyone else is on the hook for tracking the minute details of their schizophrenic history.... sincerely.... no one cares.
Excellent research. More of this please good sir. Thanks.
Felice Napoli was a fashion icon.
Well researched and very informative video. I love learning about bodybuilders/strongmen of the early days of physique training.
Respect to the lad. He tried his best to give some work to a pro fighter and failed, no shock there. But after that, he took his beating like a man salute.
That really isn't all that jacked. You could find like 3 guys that size just walking into your local gym at any time. Even planet fitness.
Attila's offer from 1894 probably still wouldn't be able claimed, even today. Lotta people come from that guy. It's the gym's version of Apostolic Succession: Anabolic Succession.
Damn its almost like years of training without steroids will yield amazing results
Can we just note the oft-repeated claim that Hackenschmidt 'invented' the hack squat isn't quite right. In his book 'The Way To Live...' he shows it (on page 70) and merely says 'This exercise is called 'Hacke' in Germany'. And 'hacke' means 'heel'. You raise your heels, standing on your toes, and squat down until the hamstrings pretty much hit the heels. The entire movement is more like a sissy squat, but with more hip hinge. What is now called a hack squat is nothing like what Hackenschmidt describes. When people do it now with a barbell they're just doing a flat-footed deadlift with the bar behind their knees.
Three things, higher levels of testosterone, higher quality, wholistic food, trained long term, which yields most results.
The guy who wrote the "convict conditioning" series loved Eugene Sandow.
I noticed that a lot of these exercises they're doing are more naturalistic to how the human body would normally move.
I hate how in every one of these videos, people forget about John "Herkul" Grün. Guy was a Legend.
Do not forget their food was cleaner and on average testesterone was higher in men.
Cope. It was higher cause they werent fat and worked manual jobs
He could bench 90 kilos?? Im just some dude i do not try to be a strongman i just go to the gym to be healthy ,i bench 100 kilos for sets if 20s, people now can bench like 300 kilos
Thank you
if Strongman wouldn't be that standardized, much less impressive weights and feats of strength could they expose.
Remember this was before GMO and Extremely processed food...id love to have access to foods 100 years ago...
Thanks for continuing to make great videos
They didnt train better they ate better. Period.
I’m still upset weight lifting isn’t called powerlifting and powerlifting isn’t called weightlifting
Awsome, informative video. Learned lots of stuff about bronze era lifters.