When RUSH toured in support of Vapor Trails, Geddy dedicated this song to one of his bass mentors, John Entwistle, who had just passed away in June of that year, 2002. This is a great song. CP is one of my favorite RUSH albums. 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Love the fuzz box guitar. Yet another riff/solo style for Alex the chameleon. Also dig the ride cymbal work and rollingtoms from Neil. Underrated track.
This track was always one of my favorites in regard to Neil's drumline I absolutely love what he does in the chorus section right before the why the sun part
When John Entwistle past away Rush was on tour and played this one for the first time live with a dedication to him. There's a video of it on YT. They kept it in the set list for the rest of the tour. There's also a bonus audio only version on The cd's of LIVE IN RIO that wasn't on the dvd.
When Counterparts came out this was one of my favorite songs on the album. Over time it kind of feel if a bit for me, but hearing it again after a long time it's gone back up. The unusual guitar riff throughout is really cool to listen to and the sort of non-solo guitar solo is a nice change of pace. Overall a strong performance from the band. Alien Shore was one I didn't like when it came out, but my recent listens show that it has definitely grown on me a lot. I'm really looking forward to your album review because I have a feeling a lot of the songs you're saying you dig but aren't going nuts over week grow in you a lot with repeated listens because as you point out there is cool stuff in pretty much all of them. But I guess I'll just have to wait and see!
This is probably the third or fourth time that I've heard this song. Once here just now and two or three times listening through the CD on my own. And I like this song more each time I hear it. I can see this song going on my Rush playlist with other of my favorite Rush songs.
I just love the 60s vibe of that "ahhh yes to yes" section. So much fun. You should watch them play this live. You can see they are having so much fun with it. :)
Used to be my favorite song on the record. May still be along with Cut To The Chase, Leave That Thing Alone, and Cold Fire. Alex's guitar is actually "growling" on this one. Also one of the hardest songs to decipher as far as lyrics.
You know I dropped off of Rush around the “hold your fire “album. But this album I loved every song on it. I kept it on repeat play in the background when I was doing homework, or some project. And it was just drilled into my head, this hear was one of my faves.
Your spot on Justin. The kick bass drum is a lower sonic level than the bass guitar. The kick bass drum was lost a bit IMO over the last couple of albums. Sounds better on this album.
Great reaction. I haven't listened to this one in a while I tend to listen to their older stuff most of the time. I forgot how much this song rocks. It is not a great piece lyrically and by no means is it one of their most complex musical compositions. I don't think it would make it in my top 30 favorite Rush songs (probably not even my top 50) but it really does have a nice energized, positive feel to it. All three of them played great as always but I particularly liked some of Neil's fills and the section where he plays a really meaty, driving rhythm that is sort of over top of everyone else in the mix for a few measures. Alex's guitar riffs and solo on this one also really stood out and I thought the stylistic comparisons to ZZ Top were spot on. Take care
You had the pronunciation on Dubois right the first time. I've been to a small town in Pennsylvania with the same name, which is locally pronounced as "dew-BOYS" (as opposed to "DEW-boys")
A great vocal melody hook (something you can't say too often about Rush songs) and the tom patterns coming out of the chorus are awesome. I do hear the Pete Townshend before the solo, but the Keith Richards on the main riff is much stronger. This should've been a single, it would've fit in great on 90s radio.
Just a reminder that Pye Dubois (you pronounced it right the first time) is responsible for the lyrics on one of your favourite Rush songs, Battlescar :) And this song is a fun one. Lots of Alex front and centre. Keep up the mixing/engineering talk. Love those insights.
You might be interested to know that Pye Dubois (Paul Philip Woods) was the principal lyricist for Max Webster, a group you have liked so far and should hear more of.
Such a different song. Rarely played live but one of my absolute favorites from the first time I heard it. On this journey till the end brother and probably beyond I like your honest style.
This was the first track played on the WBCN release party and I loved it. Only song they released before BCN full album listen was stick it out which I still didn't like. I think the remaining songs left will be hit or miss for you. This might be a case where side 1 isa bit stronger. But we will see. You surprise us a lot with what you like!
Yeah, the intro part sounds very Townsend-influenced, parts later on have a very ‘dirty’ Kieth Richards’ styling. The Rolling Stones’ sound was always more ‘raw’ while much of the Who seemed more ‘full’ to me. I am not a guitarist, so I’m not sure how to tell just how the sound is produced; to me, it sounds like 1 or 2 strings are being played versus a fully six string chord strum. There’s just…more…there. The part where you said ‘a little ZZ Top’ I was hearing more Mark Knopfler influence. But this was something Rush did so well, take inspiration from all over, incorporate it and make it distinctly Rush. And that, I think, is why so many Rush fans are only fans of a certain portion of their discography. Unlike so many bands, Rush was constantly changing up their style in small or great ways.
Justin, I'm going to be honest. The new camera looks great, but I gotta say that I think I liked the old microphone better. This one sounds a little muffled. Maybe you could experiment with removing the windscreen (if it has one) or moving it a little closer? The old mic sounds a little more live, with the new one's sound being a little more "processed" sounding. The difference of speaking to someone face to face or on the telephone. Just my two cents...but the differences are subtle and they both get the job done just fine.
@@geddylee501 Victor is very mid-90’s in places, and very experimental in others. I think it’s definitely worth a listen. You’re right the MFH is a bit of a disappointment. Geddy never goes nuts on the bass. But I think it was essential to the sound of the last three albums, two of which I would put in the list of stone cold classics.
I think it would be great to hear Justin’s reactions to those but after the main discography I reckon as they might detract from Rush itself. I don’t think there’s any need to do Feedback despite how amazing those cover versions are, what do you guys reckon?
The brief breakdown about 3/4 into the song was kind of like The Who. Then it switched into the part that you said sounded more like ZZ Top (which I agree with, though I thought Lifeson sounded more like Richards in the first part of the song).
Now 5 songs in and none of them suck. What could be happening?! I guess thanks should go out to Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Nirvana. That guitar riffing bit IS pretty Pete Townsend-y, but more like late 70's/early 80's, not the earlier big power chord version of PT. Although I also get your comparison to ZZ Top as well. I guess a defining trait of Rush throughout their career was that they were very good sponges!
One of the only songs - maybe the only song - where Alex finger picks the electric. Strangely, he didn’t when they played it live. Barely sounded like the same riff.
Between Sun and Moon perhaps is my favorite track on Counterparts. Maybe tied with Double Agent. The live versions are excellent two. I have a bootleg recorded from the soundboard that is great. Between Sun and Moon was only played live on the Vapor Trails tour in 2002. Interestingly it was not played live on the counterparts tour in 94.
Justin you skipped 2112 from different stages ? Yes? No ? I saw them at the forum in Los Angeles - on this tour Maybe the single greatest live song I’ve ever seen performed Alex was out of his mind
Never thought of it sounding like ZZ Top until you’ve mentioned it. Yeah you can hear the Pete Townshend influence in the bridge but it’s just a small section. Five for five so far🤘
A good chorus and I could really like the song. The melody for the chorus rocks. The chorus lyrics spoil it for me. Everything else is great. Well, some of the other lines don't work for me either, but that is a minor issue.
Can't get into this one, start and verse are good but, chorus sort of Manic Street Preachers, and the middle break mimics The Who - Won't get Fooled Again, nah.
For me, this is their weakest track. I used to just skip this one when I played the CD. You're about to listen to one of my favorites though, Alien Shore. In fact, the remainder of the album tends to crest to a high note with the last track.
How ironic. lol THis song was always my favorite and Alien Shore was always my least favorite. Still love this one, but like Alien Shore a lot more than when it first came out.
He definitely likes them. But they weren't the soundtrack of his life and weren't a huge influence in his formative years like with most Rush fanatics. He approaches their music with a jaundiced eye and isn't going to just bow down to their greatness based on reputation alone. They need to prove themselves to him. I respect that in some ways. Still, he has been hypercritical and quite unfair at times in reacting to their music. But hey, at least he seems to think Signals is their best album, so he does have some taste in music.
What kind of musician would I be if I just loved everything… seriously. Yeah theyre great. Permanent Waves is amazing top to bottom. Signals is excellent. AFTK and GUP are great. Working Man is amazing. What do you want from me? Seriously…
To me it's the Fender Tweed sound and is more justified to compare amp than band. I just can't tell if he is using single coils or humbuckers. Just a really well articulated blues crunch. Either way , agree or disagree, I haven't heard a bad song off this album yet.
This is the second weirdest song on the album behind Double Agent, I really like the energy of it
Yeah, Double Agent is so dark and weird for Rush, I recall Geddy saying “it’s demented” at a live concert before performing it
If this song doesn't get you bopping in your chair I don't know what will. Excellent track!
When RUSH toured in support of Vapor Trails, Geddy dedicated this song to one of his bass mentors, John Entwistle, who had just passed away in June of that year, 2002.
This is a great song. CP is one of my favorite RUSH albums. 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Love the fuzz box guitar. Yet another riff/solo style for Alex the chameleon. Also dig the ride cymbal work and rollingtoms from Neil. Underrated track.
This track was always one of my favorites in regard to Neil's drumline I absolutely love what he does in the chorus section right before the why the sun part
When John Entwistle past away Rush was on tour and played this one for the first time live with a dedication to him. There's a video of it on YT. They kept it in the set list for the rest of the tour. There's also a bonus audio only version on The cd's of LIVE IN RIO that wasn't on the dvd.
Yep! The live show was in Hartford, Connecticut
And Mansfield MA. :)
@@Jekylnhyde55 I was there too, my friend. I remember.
When Counterparts came out this was one of my favorite songs on the album. Over time it kind of feel if a bit for me, but hearing it again after a long time it's gone back up. The unusual guitar riff throughout is really cool to listen to and the sort of non-solo guitar solo is a nice change of pace. Overall a strong performance from the band.
Alien Shore was one I didn't like when it came out, but my recent listens show that it has definitely grown on me a lot.
I'm really looking forward to your album review because I have a feeling a lot of the songs you're saying you dig but aren't going nuts over week grow in you a lot with repeated listens because as you point out there is cool stuff in pretty much all of them. But I guess I'll just have to wait and see!
I'm hearing a little "Feedback" (their 2004 cover album) in this song.
This is probably the third or fourth time that I've heard this song. Once here just now and two or three times listening through the CD on my own. And I like this song more each time I hear it. I can see this song going on my Rush playlist with other of my favorite Rush songs.
I keep hearing Mark Knoffler regarding the guitar flavor. Thanks!
I just love the 60s vibe of that "ahhh yes to yes" section. So much fun. You should watch them play this live. You can see they are having so much fun with it. :)
Used to be my favorite song on the record. May still be along with Cut To The Chase, Leave That Thing Alone, and Cold Fire. Alex's guitar is actually "growling" on this one. Also one of the hardest songs to decipher as far as lyrics.
Alien shore, Nd cold fire for the win
I liked this song a lot back when this album came out. Been a long time since I've heard it.
You know I dropped off of Rush around the “hold your fire “album. But this album I loved every song on it. I kept it on repeat play in the background when I was doing homework, or some project. And it was just drilled into my head, this hear was one of my faves.
I really love this track! Especially the guitar work and solo. Very different kind of Rush. They always surprise me.
This is the "The Who" on Rushroids! Another one of their big influences... Gotta love it!
I heard some traces of M. Knopfler.
Highly anticipating Double Agent! Favorite song on the Album. Although, it is an acquired taste!
The Pete Townshend is @ 4:25
Your spot on Justin. The kick bass drum is a lower sonic level than the bass guitar. The kick bass drum was lost a bit IMO over the last couple of albums. Sounds better on this album.
Neil's drum sound on Presto and Roll The Bones was a shame too because the Ludwigs are by far Neil's best sounding LIVE kit.
I enjoyed this one from the start. Mainly the drums Neil was clearly enjoying banging on. :)
They played this on a later tour it was awesome!
The guitar has a nice, classic-rock-style riff to it, which is really fun for a change of pace.
Closest English will get is Doo-bwah, like the pedal (I'm a native French speaker)
Love this one. One of my favs from this excellent album
Great reaction. I haven't listened to this one in a while I tend to listen to their older stuff most of the time. I forgot how much this song rocks. It is not a great piece lyrically and by no means is it one of their most complex musical compositions. I don't think it would make it in my top 30 favorite Rush songs (probably not even my top 50) but it really does have a nice energized, positive feel to it. All three of them played great as always but I particularly liked some of Neil's fills and the section where he plays a really meaty, driving rhythm that is sort of over top of everyone else in the mix for a few measures. Alex's guitar riffs and solo on this one also really stood out and I thought the stylistic comparisons to ZZ Top were spot on.
Take care
You can hear the influence of grunge on this and other songs over this album, but it's still Rush. I'm off to look up the live version now.
Saw them play this live on the vaper trails tour amazing.
This song sounds a million times better live on that tour.
I can definitely hear the Stones' influence. I'd forgotten about this song. Yep, it's time to change out the CD in the car from RTB to CP! 🔥✌
Yeah, I like this one quite a lot. An experiment which really worked. Have always heard both the Stones and the Who in there.
Here’s Pye Dubois reading his original poem, A Lake Between Sun and Moon:
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You had the pronunciation on Dubois right the first time. I've been to a small town in Pennsylvania with the same name, which is locally pronounced as "dew-BOYS" (as opposed to "DEW-boys")
A great vocal melody hook (something you can't say too often about Rush songs) and the tom patterns coming out of the chorus are awesome. I do hear the Pete Townshend before the solo, but the Keith Richards on the main riff is much stronger. This should've been a single, it would've fit in great on 90s radio.
Just a reminder that Pye Dubois (you pronounced it right the first time) is responsible for the lyrics on one of your favourite Rush songs, Battlescar :)
And this song is a fun one. Lots of Alex front and centre.
Keep up the mixing/engineering talk. Love those insights.
You might be interested to know that Pye Dubois (Paul Philip Woods) was the principal lyricist for Max Webster, a group you have liked so far and should hear more of.
yes i know it ..
Such a different song. Rarely played live but one of my absolute favorites from the first time I heard it. On this journey till the end brother and probably beyond I like your honest style.
So far, so great! Love this tune, fires me up.
Pye Dubois reads "There is a Lake Between Sun and Moon": th-cam.com/video/hn1IvLPU5UM/w-d-xo.html
ZZ Top, yeah I hear that now that you say it.
Alien shore is my favorite song on the album and some of the best bass work in years. Hope you like it.
It's catchy, chorus sticks in your head.
This was the first track played on the WBCN release party and I loved it. Only song they released before BCN full album listen was stick it out which I still didn't like. I think the remaining songs left will be hit or miss for you. This might be a case where side 1 isa bit stronger. But we will see. You surprise us a lot with what you like!
I had to learn this one for a recent Rush "Tabcon" event in Milwaukee. It was fun to play. Solo is weird to learn (I faked my way through it...)
Yeah, the intro part sounds very Townsend-influenced, parts later on have a very ‘dirty’ Kieth Richards’ styling. The Rolling Stones’ sound was always more ‘raw’ while much of the Who seemed more ‘full’ to me. I am not a guitarist, so I’m not sure how to tell just how the sound is produced; to me, it sounds like 1 or 2 strings are being played versus a fully six string chord strum. There’s just…more…there. The part where you said ‘a little ZZ Top’ I was hearing more Mark Knopfler influence.
But this was something Rush did so well, take inspiration from all over, incorporate it and make it distinctly Rush. And that, I think, is why so many Rush fans are only fans of a certain portion of their discography. Unlike so many bands, Rush was constantly changing up their style in small or great ways.
to me it has an angus young vibe. and to me a zeppelin vibe between the second verse and second chorus.
Justin, I'm going to be honest. The new camera looks great, but I gotta say that I think I liked the old microphone better. This one sounds a little muffled. Maybe you could experiment with removing the windscreen (if it has one) or moving it a little closer? The old mic sounds a little more live, with the new one's sound being a little more "processed" sounding. The difference of speaking to someone face to face or on the telephone. Just my two cents...but the differences are subtle and they both get the job done just fine.
OK Thank you for your input / suggestion !
My favorite from the album
The guitar does sound like ZZ Top.
I definitely like this one! Yeah more Keith Richards than Pete Townsend! Love the ride cymbal there in the chorus!
This was added to the Vapor Trails tour setlist as a tribute to John Entwistle.
I’m curious if you’re going to do Alex’s solo album Victor (which would be next) and Geddy’s My Favourite Headache after Test For Echo.
Victor great album, surreal in places,,,,teddy album not so good
@@geddylee501 Victor is very mid-90’s in places, and very experimental in others. I think it’s definitely worth a listen.
You’re right the MFH is a bit of a disappointment. Geddy never goes nuts on the bass. But I think it was essential to the sound of the last three albums, two of which I would put in the list of stone cold classics.
I think it would be great to hear Justin’s reactions to those but after the main discography I reckon as they might detract from Rush itself. I don’t think there’s any need to do Feedback despite how amazing those cover versions are, what do you guys reckon?
The brief breakdown about 3/4 into the song was kind of like The Who. Then it switched into the part that you said sounded more like ZZ Top (which I agree with, though I thought Lifeson sounded more like Richards in the first part of the song).
Billy F. Gibbons is hiding in the background and smiling!
I pass on the message to Uncle Billy! lol
I'm sorry, I just can't anymore! It breaks my heart hearing Rush going downhill like this. It's just not Rush anymore.
Dire Straits and Van Halen are the vibes I get from the guitar.
My fave on this record so far. Solid riffs and a break from the mushy lyrics.
Now 5 songs in and none of them suck. What could be happening?! I guess thanks should go out to Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Nirvana. That guitar riffing bit IS pretty Pete Townsend-y, but more like late 70's/early 80's, not the earlier big power chord version of PT. Although I also get your comparison to ZZ Top as well. I guess a defining trait of Rush throughout their career was that they were very good sponges!
DOUBLE AGENT!!!👍🏾😃🔥
One of the only songs - maybe the only song - where Alex finger picks the electric. Strangely, he didn’t when they played it live. Barely sounded like the same riff.
A little mix of everything! Not bad!
Between Sun and Moon perhaps is my favorite track on Counterparts. Maybe tied with Double Agent. The live versions are excellent two. I have a bootleg recorded from the soundboard that is great. Between Sun and Moon was only played live on the Vapor Trails tour in 2002. Interestingly it was not played live on the counterparts tour in 94.
Double Agent is a SMASH and along with Animate my favorite song on the album.
D.A. beats sun and moon easily
Decent song, yep you're right reminds me of ZZ Top. 6.5/10
I actually hear Mark Knofler (Dire Straights) in Alex’s picking but whatever 🎉
This one is my favorite off the CD
My favorite off this album
Great song and great call with respect to ZZ Top. If you listen to Won’t Get Fooled Again it might highlight the Who connection somewhat 🤔
Ah huh yes to yes to yes...to..nope.
This entire album is ridiculous
Justin you skipped 2112 from different stages ? Yes? No ?
I saw them at the forum in Los Angeles - on this tour
Maybe the single greatest live song I’ve ever seen performed
Alex was out of his mind
Kick ass
What is the link Between the sun and moon ?
If you like those change-ups at the end, ABBA did a lot of those in their career. I smell another discography in the making for you. Just kidding...
Never thought of it sounding like ZZ Top until you’ve mentioned it. Yeah you can hear the Pete Townshend influence in the bridge but it’s just a small section. Five for five so far🤘
A good chorus and I could really like the song. The melody for the chorus rocks. The chorus lyrics spoil it for me. Everything else is great. Well, some of the other lines don't work for me either, but that is a minor issue.
Can't get into this one, start and verse are good but, chorus sort of Manic Street Preachers, and the middle break mimics The Who - Won't get Fooled Again, nah.
👍🏾😃
Theres a little bit of the who at 3:03 in the vid
ZZ Top? Good call!
For me, this is their weakest track. I used to just skip this one when I played the CD. You're about to listen to one of my favorites though, Alien Shore. In fact, the remainder of the album tends to crest to a high note with the last track.
How ironic. lol THis song was always my favorite and Alien Shore was always my least favorite. Still love this one, but like Alien Shore a lot more than when it first came out.
I don't really care for this song. I enjoy Neil's drumming but that's about it.
I really don’t think you like rush and only listen for the views and likes . If you don’t like them just be honest and don’t play them
He definitely likes them. But they weren't the soundtrack of his life and weren't a huge influence in his formative years like with most Rush fanatics. He approaches their music with a jaundiced eye and isn't going to just bow down to their greatness based on reputation alone. They need to prove themselves to him. I respect that in some ways. Still, he has been hypercritical and quite unfair at times in reacting to their music. But hey, at least he seems to think Signals is their best album, so he does have some taste in music.
What kind of musician would I be if I just loved everything… seriously. Yeah theyre great. Permanent Waves is amazing top to bottom. Signals is excellent. AFTK and GUP are great. Working Man is amazing. What do you want from me? Seriously…
Song just felt a little....pedestrian to me. Just....average.
song = meh. Musicianship = great.
To me it's the Fender Tweed sound and is more justified to compare amp than band. I just can't tell if he is using single coils or humbuckers. Just a really well articulated blues crunch. Either way , agree or disagree, I haven't heard a bad song off this album yet.